I feel it in her presentation you are not projecting. Her level breathing stops and picks up as she goes as if at some point she is holding her breath. Like we do when we are scared.

You just read my mind too.

I think her comfort with the content stabilizes her minor public speaking discomforts we are critiquing. Her example is a powerful one for us to acknowledge. Knowledge and familiarity with the content helps manage the discomforts we all have about public speaking. Key in appearing human is knowledge & familiarity of the content & one’s self.

Coach Kip, you are projecting spot on. Knowledge of the material covers up all our jitters.

Well said, Paul

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Well said! You said it all for me.

totally agree... and i really enjoyed her book. here's a link: wtf.tw/ref/meadows.pdf

triple agree & thanks for sharing this@@asffapoisj

Fletcher Forehand legend where Can i find more book about this topic? There are other authors like John W. Forrester, and John Sterman.

Anyone located the “readings from last week” she mentions? I.e “Lasmo”

@@patrickwilkie5576 just discovered this lecture but the reading is likely selections from Ervin Laszlo's The System View of the World, if I could guess

Samad Lamdarass Yo, totally agree. I was thinking "I hope I can marry someone like this!"

A historical combination. You don't find that these days...

Agree 100%

Beyond engineering complications is systems thinking complexity. While engineering keeps getting more complicated, systems thinking enables one to go beyond the complexity ending in simplicity - clarity of the whole.

Non technical sciences and the humanities take whatever we can, thank you very much!

@@JT-xg1nq It's never that easy. There are systems that you do not see, so no easy closure for you.

@@JT-xg1nq Well said.

I ditto! I love this presentation.

donella meadows was one of the authors of The Limits of Growth. her primer on systems thinking is a great beginning. this video though stunned me about how it would have been great to have attended a class by her!!!!!

"The key concept in system dynamics is that a system's behavior arises from the interactions of its components over time, rather than simple linear cause-and-effect relationships." It's not linear???

I would look into project Cyber-Syn in Chile 1971-1973. More specifically Cyberstride, it was the computer program that took all levels (stocks) of economic output (over 3/4 of the national economy), and analyzed it in almost real time. The outputs were measured in a goal seeking fashion using bayesian statistics. Too bad the project was destroyed.

I align more with cybernetics, which was discovered before systems science. It utilizes more statistical and subjective probabalistic mathmatics.

donellameadows.org/donella-meadows-legacy/envisioning-a-sustainable-world/ Here are more lectures from her time at Dartmouth

Insight maker is the closest thing we have to DINAMO that's free and available online. It is very useful as a system dynamicist or cybernetician.

I can think using systems!

Statistics to Validate the Models.

Generally, an engineering background can make it easier. But, that doesn't guarantee that you can do high quality work. You don't need a background in quantitative analysis. You will not find very many uses for statistics. The math you use would be "friendly algebra", and the software (e.g., Vensim PLE is free for beginners) has great tutorials that show how models are built. Feedback thinking is what is important, and there aren't classes taught on that in any profession or discipline. Most professors know some feedback loops from theories they had to learn in grad school, but most have no experience building feedback models, let alone simulating. Some disciplines do teach SD as part of the curriculum, like industrial engineering, but, it is in the context of ... industrial engineering which sees SD as a competing paradigm and industrial engineering isn't taught very widely either. SD experts are usually self-taught consultants who want to use it on the job, or PhDs trained under an SD expert. Probably a few masters students of those experts too. In Europe there are is an SD masters program.

@@Sam5LC thanks, I already found a masters in systems dynamics that I'll most likely study after I've done with my bachelor in IT systems design

Dartmouth College, Hanover, New Hampshire, Spring of 1977

Very well, it seems. Ended up here while looking into Luhmann's 'Ecological Communication' and thinking about effective visual presentation and communication about complex systems in general.