Here's a tip. Unscrew the coldshoe mount on the AsrHori...Slide in a lanyard and tighten it up. Always around your neck.
@ShootFilmLikeaBoss8 ай бұрын
ha ha I have actually been thinking the same! That or take it apart and drill a tiny hole into the chassis.
@steveb74778 ай бұрын
I have the KEKS KM02. Bought it directly from the company before it was released to the public. I absolutely LOVE it and it has a LOT of features on it. It meters real good and is very handy when you don't want to lug around a bigger meter.
@speralta18 ай бұрын
I like how you changed the print on the wall behind you whenever you cut back to yourself. Very clever! 😊
@ShootFilmLikeaBoss8 ай бұрын
Thank you! 😊 Well spotted.
@irresponsiblepictures74518 ай бұрын
Got a used AstrHori for 30 quid used so can't complain. It's an average and highly portable meter at least. I oddly prefer making a guesstimation then look at a meter to see if I'm near the ballpark figure as it's more fun..best way to learn!
@ShootFilmLikeaBoss8 ай бұрын
You can also put it in your pocket without a camera to play guessing games. Nice bargain!
@carltanner90658 ай бұрын
I have one of the TTArtisan light meter and I think it's a godsend for people with older cameras!!! Does its job well and it's not that too expensive. I'd recommend to get one, as well!
@poniatowski35478 ай бұрын
I have two from Doomo Made. The meter d and meter s in brass they are awesome little things and the metering is close enough that I've never had an issue. They spend their time on my Leica M3 & Kodak Retinas, sometime even in my pocket just to check light when walking around with a minolta 16 or minox. And the black painted brass looks nice as it ages.
@RickLeMon4 ай бұрын
I was just looking at their site, and they have a right angle cold shoe mount that would be perfect for my Mamiya RB67. The cold shoe is on the side, which would make using one of these little gadgets pretty awkward. Price is pretty reasonable, too
@theblackandwhitefilmproject8 ай бұрын
i have a DOOMO Meter D Cold Shoe Light Meter for my Leica M2. It has a 30 degree sensitivity and better than the TT Artisan version which has a 45 degree sensitivity. It gives EXACTLY the same reading as my Leica MP.I researched many brands and the DOOMO seemed the best. It also has two analogue dials for shutter and aperture rather than digital which is perfect for my old eyes and I don't have to remember how many times to push the same button.
@liveinaweorg8 ай бұрын
Yup! I have two Doomo's and they are terrific.
@MrBiginvegas8 ай бұрын
Yup! Have the Doomo meter D in Chrome and cold shoe it to the side of my Hasselblad, top of my Nikon F that has a busted photomic and permanently top of my NIcca 3-F rangefinder ( Leica iii F clone). Looks great as well and always 100% accurate to my Sekonic 308. Speeds up shooting and deepens understanding of light, shutter speed and apertures even at my old age. Took a few rolls on the ranegfinder to get used the concept that the meter was not the camera setting!
@qnetx8 ай бұрын
I have a DOOMO for my Leica M4-P and it also reads the same as my Sekonic. Excellent little meter!
@Bartuul8 ай бұрын
I've got the Voigtlander one for my Hassy, as I got tired of carrying the spot meter around whenever I shoot on the street or something similar. Fits right on the side on the shoe mount and works like a charm. For closeup work I still prefer a spot meter though.
@rvannooij8 ай бұрын
Been using a Voigtländer Cosina VC meter II for well over a decade. Still love it.
@jwbarsby8 ай бұрын
That looks great. I’ve just got my first TLR and checked my settings by taking a quick photo on my X-T30. Carrying two cameras isn’t always practical but it does mean you have a digital backup for comparison. Once I get a bit more confident I’ll probably leave the Fuji at home so this might be handy.
@ShootFilmLikeaBoss8 ай бұрын
I used to take my DSLR out with me for metering years ago, also I had the benefit of seeing how it looked before exposing the film. As you say though. Carrying two cameras.
@victorcarmelo86068 ай бұрын
I use a Sekonic 208 for my OM-1n as never found a good replacement battery for it. So not to loose the meter, get a cheap lanyard for mobile phone type, loosen the shoe and and jam the cord under and tighten screws and good for hanging around neck but you already thought of that probably! Thanks for sharing.
@Murgoh8 ай бұрын
I have the TTArtisan one, I use it with my smaller cameras where I don't want to carry the Pentax Spotmeter V. Works fine, plenty accurate for B&W .
@ShootFilmLikeaBoss8 ай бұрын
Classic spot meter that Pentax V.
@Francois_L_79338 ай бұрын
I have the one from TTArtisan which is a "copy" of the Voigtländer VC meter. This small thing is pretty neat. I got the first version which is black paint on a brass housing that's sure to look awesome once it gets a bit worn out sitting on top of a rangefinder. The new ones are aircraft aluminum. Precision wise, it's pretty good and I'm happy with it so far. The wheels don't turn by accident and you don't have a power hungry screen to deal with.
@loukashareangas44208 ай бұрын
I have the TT artisan and I am very happy with it. I use it with any cameras I have that don't have a built in light meter. (Obviously). These include russian zenits and Kievs, a zeiss contaflex and an ercona 6x9. No problems whatsoever, though at some point I might also purchase a spot meter (they are expensive, however....)
@ShootFilmLikeaBoss8 ай бұрын
Yes spots are expensive. Minolta Spot Meter M are relatively well priced used.
@mitHundundRad8 ай бұрын
I also tested one of these and prefer to stick with my old Zeiss Ikon Ikophot from the 1950s. If I measure the exposure once with the Zeiss, it will permanently show me all the settings I can use on the camera. Sometimes from 1/1000 up to 1s, everything at a glance without having to convert in your head or make other settings. I'm sticking with my old Zeiss and had brought the little digital toy back to the shop.
@Resgerr8 ай бұрын
I too have a couple of Zeiss Ikon Ikophot, which I use alot. I have a modern Sekonic of which I haven't used yet!. Oe thing with the Ikophot is it doesn't need batteries!
@CornishMotorcycleDiaries8 ай бұрын
I have one too
@ShootFilmLikeaBoss8 ай бұрын
Wow, I had to google that! I have one similar called a Sixteen, which is not accurate unfortunately. The cells must have aged bad
@oocaj8 ай бұрын
I have a little bigger meter, the sekonic L-208. If I didn’t have it, this might be an interesting alternative. Thanks again for your inspiring video :-)
@ShootFilmLikeaBoss8 ай бұрын
Good choice!
@Edubarca468 ай бұрын
Excellent video and beautiful gadget. It is not the first tiny light meter. Vivitar had one very accurate in the years 80s. LONG LIVE FILM PHOTOGRAPHY.
@ShootFilmLikeaBoss8 ай бұрын
Well said!
@JanneRanta8 ай бұрын
Afaik, all of these new tiny light meters use the same photo diode that is cheap and available easily. The only differences are build quality and maybe calibrating. I dont have one cause I love my gossen lunasix. Nothing beats a dial interface lightmeter :)
@wibbley18 ай бұрын
I built my own using an ESP32 and the cheap microprocessor light sensor unit. I put a larger screen on it 1.3" so I can see it better. Main problem with all homebrew projects is getting nice box to put it in.
@stevebarnett50488 ай бұрын
I have a KEKS meter and while it's accurate it all depends what you point it at, as with any meter. And I just find a hand held meter with a big dial and a large display much better for pointing at things. They also usually come with a slide over invercone so if you want to cross check between a reflective reading and an incident reading it's very quick to do.
@erikepskamp19918 ай бұрын
Thank you for the mention. I enjoyed making the prints for you. You are most welcome.
@philparker978 ай бұрын
Another Keks KM02 user here, on a couple of my cameras, and a trusty Sekonic L308s for most use.
@williamthompson59298 ай бұрын
I have a TT Artisan meter. While I have tested it against a large Sekonic unit and found it accurate, I find it too easy to accidentally change the ISO setting when adjusting the f stop dial, and in daylight the over/under leds are near impossible to read. I also have a light meter app on my mobile phone that is annoyingly about 2 stops off - it gives me an accurate reading for iso 400 when I set it to 1600. I really liked a little Sekonic L208, but that succumbed to gravity and ceased to function. To be honest, I am quite happy with sunny sixteen down to about f8, but find it hard to judge the light as it gets dimmer.
@Floydwellian7 ай бұрын
Great info!...This is counter-intuitive to my wanting to be free from charging, buying batteries, etc. 😄 I bought an old Petri 7s thinking I would finally be free (selenium meter! no batteries needed to operate the camera!). Well, the dang meter only works sporadically and when it does work it's jumpy or just wrong. Shot down. So I started using a phone app meter. Which also defeats my wanting to just carry a mechanical camera around. I suppose I'll just estimate. A light meter would cost more than what I paid for the camera ($25)... I love all your videos by the way, thanks for all the information.
@jw483358 ай бұрын
These little meters are fantastic! I use a keks on my GW680 so that the readout faces toward the back. I use an AstrHori on my TLR with a 90 degree shoe adapter so that the readout screen face upward. I then carry a Reveni labs spot meter when I think I might need to cross check. Happy Holidays!
@anthonymoreno8948 ай бұрын
Yep. I have the Keks on my GW690 and you’re right about having the screen facing the back. Works a treat.
@ShootFilmLikeaBoss8 ай бұрын
I am not sure if I mentioned that in the video or if I cut it out but I liked the idea of the display facing you like the Keks
@beckerse8 ай бұрын
I bought a similar one called a V-201X. I like it so far. If I had to knit pick, the display is a little hard to see in bright sunlight. Otherwise, it works great for me.
@aaa0303a4 ай бұрын
Handy little gadget to chuck in my camera bag. Got mine on AliExpress for £35.
@petesime8 ай бұрын
I'm going to stick with my little analogue Sekonic L-208. Because I can see the shutter speeds for all the different apertures at the same time.
@TristanColgate8 ай бұрын
The two wheel variety of these (like the tt-artisan's, keks and voigtlander), do let you see alternative exposure settings. you line up the wheels, and then there are lines that connect opposite values and let you quickly read off other settings.
@UKBROOKLYN7 ай бұрын
I looked at all these little meters and went with the Reflx Labs one.. It was the cheapest and the tiniest. Also the silver one looks perfect on top of my M2 and almost looks like it was made for my Leica iiif... Matches the Barnacks perfectly.. My take on these meters is mainly to use them as a starting point. Once you have an idea of the calibration of the meter its pretty easy to make adjustments in your head. The ambition is to work sans meter as much as possible.
@northstar19508 ай бұрын
My wife bought me a Voightlander small meter a few years back, they are expensive but it seems to work well.
@colleenamblard91897 ай бұрын
I've made myself a necklace for my mini lightmeter haha ! Those things are so tiny they indeed should come with a sort of necklace or strap. It's surprisingly accurate, does the work really well.
@100davies6 ай бұрын
There are some watch straps with flash mounts on them on Amazon , I use one but have to pack out the shoe with a bit of paper to stop it falling off
@foxburroughs81117 ай бұрын
Any chance you'll do a follow-up video to show us how/if it works for nighttime metering?
@danbobski8 ай бұрын
Bought this cheap light meter from Alexipress - 0.96 Inch 0led M08 Light Meter Camera Photometer Photography Light Set-top Reflection Meter Z9c1. It is very ugly but it works! I like the look of yours better. Great video!
@hughwhullphotography61488 ай бұрын
All the reviews indicate that the little meters work very well. Currently I use an light meter app (myLightMeter) on my iPhone with my Mamiya TLR and my Olympus OM-1
@geophizz4 ай бұрын
I got one of these, and it lasted for about a roll and a half of film before the single control button broke, making it compleely inoperable. I opened it up, and found that the button is press fit, and had come loose. It's really fiddly to try to get it back together.
@rvannooij6 ай бұрын
"I keep bloody losing it" ..yep, I have exactly the same experience with my ol' VC-meter II. :D I like the double dial ones like the VC-2 and the Doomo with the 3 LEDs, not really a fan of these small meters with the LCD displays.
@TristanColgate8 ай бұрын
In fairness to Reveni labs, I think the one you show there is actually their spot meter, which does look like a really cool bit of gear, and very different to anything else I've seen.
@thebitterfig99038 ай бұрын
It’d be great if there was another spot meter. The Raveni Labs one does exist, but it’s kinda strange, and you don’t look through a lens.
@lensman57628 ай бұрын
All the light meters you showed do the same job, more or less, there is one exception though and that is Reveni Labs. They have a spot meter not much larger than the light meter in your hands, but the price is rather steep. I think they are about £230.00 here in the UK, or CA$245.00 from Reveni itself. BTW, I think your meter was reading accurately. It is just a simple average reading that this meter does, which means it is giving you an exposure reading to produce the scene as a mid gray. Since you are pointing it at primarily a light wall, it is over reading, so opening up a stop or so would give you the right exposure. I am sure the Leica is using an ' evaluative ' metering algorithm so it compensates for the extra luminance of the wall to produce the tones more correctly.
@pauuuuul878 ай бұрын
Right, but the only big problem with the reveni spot meter is that it isn't a scope, younhave to use both eyes which is troublesome. Also for that price you could buy a used Minolta spot meter or even two. Reveni should try and make another spot meter, one with a see through design and then even 300$ would be a good price
@TristanColgate8 ай бұрын
@@pauuuuul87 I asked Martin Henson about the reveni. I've got pretty bad eyes, so have always worried that I'd have problems aiming it. He reckons that he hasn't had any problems, and that having both eyes open can actually be a bit more comfortable/relaxing that the two. (I do agree with you though, I was a little too wary and ended up finding a second hand Pentax Spot V which does the job nicely for me).
@ShootFilmLikeaBoss8 ай бұрын
Yes thats why I took two reading of the door hinge and went in between Lensman. I just looked at the Revani Labs spot meter. Yeah thats pricey! I always see a steep price and wonder why because they wouldn't want to price themselves out so must be a parts price thing.
@jamesjennings-yd2bc8 ай бұрын
I used one similar to this and it's not bad.
@glengebert8 ай бұрын
I can speak with some authority that Nick doesn't sound anything like that, but that is how his mouth moves.
@DHandley718 ай бұрын
Great video Rog. I’ve just bought a vintage light meter recently to use with my film cameras. Weston Master iii - not tried it out yet but keeping my fingers crossed it’ll do the job 👌🏻
@ShootFilmLikeaBoss8 ай бұрын
I think thats the one Legend Peter Elgar uses! He swears by it. Hope it works well for you.
@moravcik538 ай бұрын
.... very impressive .... thankyou
@ShootFilmLikeaBoss8 ай бұрын
Many thanks!
@SloopJohnBee-vq6dw8 ай бұрын
I have to admit that the only phone app meter I have used was awful. Might have to get something like that 👍📸
@ShootFilmLikeaBoss8 ай бұрын
I use the AP Light Meter on my Android. It seems to give good readings on my phone. OPPO
@BLECHHAUS7 ай бұрын
I have similar small lightmeters from Sekoic and Gossen and thes do their job well. And speaking of the AstrHori: why is the silver one 10€ cheaper than the black one?
@MrRom92DAW8 ай бұрын
I bought the TTartisans meter… but I never actually use it! Aside from the couple of hours I took it out to test it, it’s just been sitting in the box. Waste of money for me sadly, I’d sell it if I could.
@ShootFilmLikeaBoss8 ай бұрын
Put it on the film communities. I'm sure someone would buy it from you Mr Rom.
@MrRom92DAW8 ай бұрын
@@ShootFilmLikeaBoss I’ve tried a couple of times but nobody’s ever bitten, which I can’t really blame them when it seems like the prices are dropping for these things constantly! Still a very cool time to live in as a film shooter that we have all this new stuff available to us
@rjbiii26 күн бұрын
after you did the calibration of -1, did you keep it that way for all the testing you did in the video?
@cecilsharps8 ай бұрын
dude was shooting with a great wall camera.
@ShootFilmLikeaBoss8 ай бұрын
Ha Ha yes he was. Interesting camera. Good photos out of it too!
@g_usa_ca8 ай бұрын
Am I the only one bothered by the fact that the date on the screen is tilted compared to the window for the screen on the device? lol. OCD acting up. Was thinking of picking one of these up. Will refresh my research. Thank you for sharing your thoughts!
@ShootFilmLikeaBoss8 ай бұрын
Yes I mentioned that at the end of the video. It is slightly wonky. And there is no protective window over the display.
@themmeferal8 ай бұрын
can you do IR Metering with this one day? I would love not to rely on light meter free when shooting Rollei Infrared or Ilford SFX
@picnet8 ай бұрын
Fiddly to operate. Handy in continuous mode on top of a GW690 but I still prefer to use incident metering.
@scottplumer36688 ай бұрын
I looked on Amazon, and they're saying they only have 16 left. Must be the Roger Lowe effect!
@ShootFilmLikeaBoss8 ай бұрын
LOL, I can say it's not my fault Scott.
@nipponiacs2 ай бұрын
My light meter lasted only 2 months, the button got stuck and the company didn’t return my mails to try to fix it or exchange. no guarantee at all.
@SS-jt9ex7 ай бұрын
hedeco lime two
@chrisreich408 ай бұрын
Good job, BUT - - can you read that display in bright sunlight? Also, how low of light levels will it read *accurately*? Cheers, mate!
@ShootFilmLikeaBoss8 ай бұрын
I could see the display easily on that day. Waiting for the sun here, one day it will show! Notice in the shady areas my Sekonic was reading a stop away from the Astrori.
@mrN3w78 ай бұрын
Damn, these things are brilliant, had no clue they exited! Thank you!!! ❤
@Webpromotions8 ай бұрын
Ive been using a ttartisans minimeter for years and it has been bullet proof. I've now just bought a sekonic 858, but am wondering if I've wasted $1000. I hope not.
@ShootFilmLikeaBoss8 ай бұрын
That 858 is a brilliant meter and won't let you down. Far too many functions for me but my friend has one. He loves it.
@ivostunga8 ай бұрын
Your exposure problems with OM camera could be due to the banned battery. I have OM-1n and it used mercury battery with different voltage than batteries produce today, therefore an adapter or conversion is needed. And pair it with stable-voltage battery - silver oxide. Don't use alkaline, they cause metering problems you are describing. I have the adapter and meter is good enough for slides, every time. I see that OM-20 uses modern batteries, though, but replacing alkalines (if used) to silver could help. Sure did for me.
@ivostunga8 ай бұрын
Here's info on the adapter: www.smallbattery.company.org.uk/sbc_mr9_adapter.htm
@ShootFilmLikeaBoss8 ай бұрын
I think that possibly could be the issue. I use normal button cell batteries in it. Thanks for the tip.
@ivostunga8 ай бұрын
@@ShootFilmLikeaBoss let's hope it improves things for you too!
@hiroakitakagi7724Ай бұрын
Smart phone can do it also.
@aprilpaddock84558 ай бұрын
My KEKS KM02 has 4 flippin’ buttons. Can I remember what they’re all for or what order to press them in? Not a chance.
@ShootFilmLikeaBoss8 ай бұрын
LOL! Like me and a digital watch!
@szabodaniel94478 ай бұрын
Slow shutter speeds aren’t a strength of this camera because of the mirror slap.
@ShootFilmLikeaBoss8 ай бұрын
Very true. It is a hard slap on that camera. The negs were sharp though. At least to my eye.
@timothyplatt60538 ай бұрын
I think putting one on a watch strap is going to be my move......
@ShootFilmLikeaBoss8 ай бұрын
You'll get people constantly asking you if you are from the future. Good idea though if you could.
@flyingo8 ай бұрын
I can not understand why anyone would spend $75+ dollars for a light meter. Following the sunny 16 rule has worked perfectly fine for me for 55 years now. I’ll often use a spot meter (Pentax 3/21 degree) for detailed large format work, and a free phone app for indoor situations, but I’ll spend my $75 on film. Best of luck to everyone who would rather buy expensive unnecessary things. It is kind of cute, I’ll give you that.
@63MacGuy8 ай бұрын
I love using them. Stays on my hot/cold shoe. So it's always right there. I don't have to fumble in my pockets or have something that dangles around my neck all day. If it's a tricky scene I do pull out my iPhone, and use a spot meter app. As long as you get there, you're good.😊
@danem22158 ай бұрын
$70 is nothing. There are meters that cost $400+. Some people will be critical down to the third of a stop, but many films have a very wide range of exposure forgiveness that makes it pointless to stress over.
@TristanColgate8 ай бұрын
I got one of the ttArtisan ones when I got my first manual film camera (zorki 1c), and I used it to give me confidence in sunny 16 estimations. I'm more or less happy guessing now, but these things do have value, and are a reasonable price for what you get out of them. (they also remove the distractions that can come from using a phone app)
@artistjoh8 ай бұрын
Are there any of these digital light meters that have a spot function, or at least a wide/standard/tele function?
@ShootFilmLikeaBoss8 ай бұрын
I believe the Revani Labs www.firstcall-photographic.co.uk/reveni-labs-spot-meter/p13119
@artistjoh8 ай бұрын
@@ShootFilmLikeaBoss Thank you.
@GeertKuster8 ай бұрын
But is it better than an iPhone app? That’s its main competitor in my eyes.
@ShootFilmLikeaBoss8 ай бұрын
I didn't test it with my phone app (Android, OPPO) as I only use that when I have forgot my meter or when I am on Sunny 16 and need a bit of help. Although it has served me well mostly when I needed it. I wonder if a new apple phone would be better than an older Android? Saying that, I wouldn't fancy having an expensive phone in my hands reading light on some streets in London. Kids probably wouldn't be looking for OM-20's to steal lol.
@thenutter20038 ай бұрын
i have seen these units on ebay have looked at them but like you just think there not going to work.
@gavinjenkins8996 ай бұрын
It's not really that small. The light meter in any of your random film cameras built in isn't any bigger than that is.
@Bill-eq5ov8 ай бұрын
Watching this video will leave you shook! ALL CAPS!!! 😂
@ShootFilmLikeaBoss8 ай бұрын
WHAT YOU ON ABOUT BILL? lol
@Bill-eq5ov8 ай бұрын
@ShootFilmLikeaBoss Only jesting! Great video, love the channel.
@tbarmo8 ай бұрын
Does anyone know why the grey/silver one is $10 cheaper than the black one?
@robbiemer81788 ай бұрын
"Tradition" mostly I think. During the film era, black cameras seemed to always be a bit more expensive than the same model in chrome. Black cameras seemed to have some "serious" or "professional" cachet to them and the camera companies charged more for that cool factor.
@TristanColgate8 ай бұрын
I think the grey one is aluminium, and the black one is brass (at least that is true of the ttArtistan one)
@ShootFilmLikeaBoss8 ай бұрын
I think the black one has a different blue screen and, although I am not sure, shows brassing on their website. It feels heavy but I am not sure if it is brass or alloy. They both have the same guts I think.
@Asmoc238 ай бұрын
Personally I don't see the point for this small light meters. I use my smartphone cause it's always with me and got excellent results. 🙂
@ShootFilmLikeaBoss8 ай бұрын
Exactly what I thought before it landed on my lap, not phone, but the Sekonic. But if you get excellent results with your phone stick with it Andrei. Nothing better than what works already.
@wibbley18 ай бұрын
What is the channels community area?
@francoismassin86498 ай бұрын
Click on "Shoot Film Like a Boss" title right under the vidéo. It will bring you to the main page and there you'll see a "Community" tab. You'll find several posts
@ShootFilmLikeaBoss8 ай бұрын
If you go to my channel you will see tabs Videos, Shorts, Playlists, Community. Click on the community tab. www.youtube.com/@ShootFilmLikeaBoss
@Tobyphoto696 ай бұрын
what is the lens at 0:11
@ShootFilmLikeaBoss6 ай бұрын
Huge! It's for the Pentacon Six a 180mm lens
@Tobyphoto696 ай бұрын
@@ShootFilmLikeaBoss I have a very similar one
@ShirazChanawala8 ай бұрын
This must have been a complicated video to edit as you have quite a bit going on here.
@ShootFilmLikeaBoss8 ай бұрын
Thanks. Not too complicated to edit, more so filming it all.
@Zetaphotography7 ай бұрын
I found these cheap light meters fall of the shoe on many cameras because they don’t fit.
@ShootFilmLikeaBoss6 ай бұрын
Yes, since I have noticed it is a bit loose on some other cameras I've used it on. Good shout
@stevef21145 ай бұрын
cant see the point of this.... ev value metering is far easier.
@zabtej16452 ай бұрын
You clearly don't get box speed with your process. So why evaluate "review" a meter while not using it to expose and develop to the best of your developer's ability?
@AI-Hallucination2 ай бұрын
Explain the -1
@jimmyha52128 ай бұрын
It's not accurate. Also it broke after 2 days of use. I wholeheartedly hate this thing