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@oopsgtg16 күн бұрын
Great video, I have played and researched a lot of old generation VGC so I can explain why Bronzong was particularly good in VGS 2008. As it was played on the DP and PBR games, one of its best moves, Hypnosis, had 70% accuracy instead of 60% as in future games, and sleep was better because it lasted an insane 2-5 turns in the Japanese versions and 1-5 turns in international versions of these games (compared to 1-3 now). This combined with having no Dark or Ghost weakness meant that Bronzong effectively had just one weakness (Fire) and could set up trick room and then just spam Hypnosis to enable its offensive Trick Room partners. It also had an advantage over Cresselia as a Trick Room setter because it resisted the moves Explosion and Self-destruct which still halved the defence stat and were big threats as they could ignore the redirection support that Trick Room setters relied on.
@grilledcheezvirtualoniisan867015 күн бұрын
That's interesting! Why didn't it have a Dark or Ghost weakness, though?
@energyzer_bunny191315 күн бұрын
@@grilledcheezvirtualoniisan8670 This was pre gen 6. Prior to gen 6, Steel resisted Ghost and Dark. Therefore in gens 4 & 5, Ghost and Dark hit Bronzong for neutral damage.
@AndrewRKenny15 күн бұрын
This is super cool insight. Where do you generally go to find material about it? Either primary sources or metagame analyses.
@grilledcheezvirtualoniisan867015 күн бұрын
@@energyzer_bunny1913 I see, thanks for the info
@oopsgtg15 күн бұрын
@@AndrewRKenny I search through old forums and blogs, mostly Smogon → VGC → Past Format Discussion, that has a lot of great stuff including 'warstories' which are basically just recounting their experience of the tournament, what their team was, which teams they faced and commentary about these things.
@erin_rose016 күн бұрын
i once had 4 identical bronzong, 2 with heatproof, and 2 with levitate. 2 were named Levitate, and 2 were named Heatproof. It worked more than it probably should have.
@bugjams16 күн бұрын
"Surely this guy is playing mind games with me, right? Obviously the ones called Heatproof have Levitate - or, at least, one of them must have... he wouldn't be honest about _all_ of them, right...? Uhhh Earthquake- WHAT DO YOU MEAN IT HAD LEVITATE!?"
@joshmickelson387216 күн бұрын
Literally same! Made identical bronzong’s, only difference being heatproof+levitate, trolled my friends every battle
@sandbags722216 күн бұрын
I have run heat proof bronzong for years and people just never use earthquake because they assume levitate
@anonyme488115 күн бұрын
@@sandbags7222there are so many mon that can reliably spam earthquake so if your opponent are smart they can check your ability because if you didnt switch in bronzdong on every single earthquake its either heatproof or you are trolling
@Yzerbruh15 күн бұрын
@@anonyme4881 Or a third option: they are bluffing Heatproof and are saving a tempo upset up their sleeve.
@LoMaLouis16 күн бұрын
Bronzong has never missed a hypnosis, I'll defend that Point until I die
@TheStormRX16 күн бұрын
I...I... *No, no, he's got a point*
@hux0rd16 күн бұрын
Gravity Shenanigans?
@energyzer_bunny191315 күн бұрын
Because Bronzong gets STAB on Hypnosis. (Same Type Accuracy Bonus). Haha just kidding, but imagine!
@TheStormRX15 күн бұрын
@@energyzer_bunny1913 💀 Wait, accurate Focus Blasts would go hard
@inabogen40256 күн бұрын
@@TheStormRXthere’s not too many special fighting types sadly
@Quartermistress16 күн бұрын
Didn’t mention the legendary bronzong you can find on the battle subway with rain dance, sunny day, sandstorm and hail
@GoofyBozo44516 күн бұрын
Always has a soft spot for Bronzong, such a cool design and overall just a chill dude
@DarkDodgers16 күн бұрын
Bronzong is one of those pokemon that made me realize how complicated Pokemon is. I remember looking at sets for a VGC once. The speed stat on one of the Bronzongs was for it to be JUST fast enough to outspeed other Bronzong's but slower than Kyogre. Blew my mind.
@TheFourthBlackReaper16 күн бұрын
Ask not for whom the Bronzong tolls, it tolls for thee.
@ultrajoey347816 күн бұрын
Tera electric Stored Power calm mind iron defense body press Bronzong is the funniest set ever made
@Winterbraid16 күн бұрын
Bronzong and Claydol are my two favorite objectmons, just love their alien design. Always thought of them as counterparts of sort even though they're different generations.
@omlett648216 күн бұрын
Bronzong actually feels like it learns fckn everything, i've used it in a draft league once and fell in love with it immediately. Who else could Block stall a stored power calm mind Magearna (the set was leftovers max Hp/SpDef Block Psych up Imprison Stored Power)
@hamish250916 күн бұрын
Yeah, block bronzong is really cool in draft. Used it in a low tier league one time and got multiple sweeps!
@theherohartmut16 күн бұрын
I used it in a draft league, too (back in the USUM days). It was actually one of the linchpins on my team, from the sheer range of supports it provided. In fact, in one battle, it was instrumental in breaking the sub of the opposing Kyurem to enable my Lycanroc (Dusk) to take it down. It had been burned by its Flame Orb (which I had intended to Trick onto one of my opponent's mons, but that fell through), and had exactly 4 uses of Gyro Ball due to Kyurem's Pressure ability. I had given it Heatproof as its ability for that specific battle, which has a side benefit of cutting residual burn damage by half. If I had run the set any differently, I'd have been stymied by the Kyurem and lost the match.
@Arshield28516 күн бұрын
Bronzong it's usually remembered as a bulky support (A good title) but people forget how in Gen 4 OU it was able to run surprise offensive sets like choice banded explosion in a pseudo-metagross way or how it could set trick room for itself and then sweep weakened teams with gyro ball, that attack stat is not that low as it looks, specially as something so bulky.
@michaelfox658215 күн бұрын
Fun fact! In the Pokemon Mystery Dungeon games, rather than one ability, Pokemon have ALL of their abilities at once. In the Explorers games, this means Bronzong gets Heatproof AND Levitate, causing it to have no weaknesses since this was Gen 4 where Steel still resisted Dark and Ghost.
@memesupreme550216 күн бұрын
I think speaking of worlds a video going over mons that have won not just once but 2-3 times could be really interesting! How their roles have changed or adapted over the years, or even just covering which have landed on a worlds winning team!
@Jwoosle16 күн бұрын
I love videos like this, bronzing isn’t even a Pokemon I think about or encounter often, but every Pokemon is someone’s favorite so it’s cool to learn about them and how they may be (or at least have been) competitively good in their own way
@D-S-G.16 күн бұрын
Ground/Ice: you cannot beat me Steel/Flying: I know. But he can. this mf:
@Mr.Brothybear16 күн бұрын
Meanwhile Fire Damage
@alexemp620116 күн бұрын
I brought bronzong to my first major, last year's Italian special event in Turin, VGC 2023 reg. C, there were more than 800 masters. I ended up 6-3, 101st. My beloved bronzong helped me so much during that tournament and that weekend was one of the single best experiences of my life. I have a soft spot for the bell now.
@sharpack16 күн бұрын
I DONT USUALLY COMMENT BUT THIS FEELS MADE FOR ME, I LOVE THE LITTLE BELL CHAP. SO MANY DIFFERENT SETS. I've used a power herb meteor beam, trick room, psychic and any fourth special move (ive even used *steel beam* here before) Bronzong in my monotype team in natdex to great success as a fire type bait. Theyre bulky enough to tank even strong fire stabs, or bait a volcarona into quiver dancing, and you know what happens after. Honestly, Bronzong's biggest issue is that most of its moves are NOT levelup. If you want to build one in a game, you have to invest actual resources into them.
@clarkside449316 күн бұрын
As a Trick Room guy, Bronzong is indeed very good at Trick Room, but its lack of pivot moves hurts it quite a bit.
@ElectricWindGirlFriend16 күн бұрын
thats when you go for the most gamer explosion of all time
@clarkside449316 күн бұрын
@@ElectricWindGirlFriend Yup. Sadly they took Explosion from him in Gen 9. He's got Steel Beam, but that's not the same.
@thegingerbreadmaninyouroven16 күн бұрын
I always thought it was a maid robot when i was a kid. Literally found out those red spots were eyes only this year.
@airam172116 күн бұрын
How can anyone perceive bronzong as anything but a bucket I swear to god
@thegingerbreadmaninyouroven16 күн бұрын
@@airam1721 hollow floating steel type that looks like a robot. The part where the bell would be hung i saw as mimicing hair or those flowery headpieces, then from there the shape I think you can see it has "arms" and the bell i saw as a dress with two big ole red buttons.
@austinhensley655316 күн бұрын
Fireproof is rare but the biggest argument for it that i have is people will never press a non mold breaker earthquake into bronzong, but they will always press fire blast
@SomeAsian16 күн бұрын
It also makes Scald a total joke, since Bronzong gets barely grazed by Burn damage with Heatproof.
@xLaniakea_12 күн бұрын
Bronzong will always have a permanent place in my heart. I am a shiny hunter and one of my targets when BDSP and PLArceus released was to shiny hunt Arceus. But after getting into the battle my first time with arceus using my original team, i quickly realized how little PP arceus had (iirc its like 25 or 30 pp split between all 4 of its moves) and how annoying it was to keep in the low yellow/red bars (knows recover and healing wish). Enter Bronzong. Hypnosis w/ wide lens or leftovers + confuse ray + psychic and bulldoze for lowering HP slowly. had 6 of these beasts on my team all with the same EVspread/IVspread/movepool/ability/holditem etc. Found arceus in about 2500-2600 resets and dude never struggled (but was still close despite my best effort to stall, had 9pp left iirc.)
@pocketmonster108816 күн бұрын
The real value of heatproof is that most people won't try to use ground moves anyway, so when their fire move fails they'll be legit shocked
@Bird-wz7nx15 күн бұрын
EQ is still common enough in doubles back then though, IMO, even if you had to plan around it with Levitate/telepathy/etc. I don't trust a strategy that only works once, and its useless for open teamsheets
@joshspeed840414 күн бұрын
2016 Skill Swap was ONE of the reasons to use it since u could swap the Weather Abilities and set the weather up again even if your Kyogre was faster than the opposing Groudon.
@Sombil2716 күн бұрын
For over a decade Bronzong has been my second favorite pokemon of all time; I like the way he looks and they're pretty strong, I always felt I was one of the very few Bronzong enjoyers cause nobody really seems to talk about this loveable bell, I think he's neat.
@EmeralBookwise15 күн бұрын
Heat Proof really needed to grant fire immunity. Between that and Levitate, would have made it nasty guessing game.
@ElenaPog16 күн бұрын
The slide said Bronzong worked as a Zam counter in Gen 5 OU and I genuinely thought it meant Zamazenta at first, powercreep goes crazy
@MythX_StoryTeller16 күн бұрын
Yo! This is a real one! You want to set something, like Stealth Rock, Trick Room, Weather, bring Mental Herb Bronzong! That bulk on this guy is solid! I was also popping off as a sui-lead using Steel Beam like others use Explosion! Another great PowerPoint!
@JaceOKami16 күн бұрын
Bronzong sits comfortably in my personal top 3 all-time favorites (next to Aggron and Cobalion). Also, if you want to know how much I love it, just look up "Bronzong Song" by Fisdunction. You're welcome.
@Richard-ec8xy16 күн бұрын
choice banded bronzong with trick, boom and gyro ball in gen 4 is one of my favourite sets ever, i believe thats a BKC classic
@datguyjimmeh15 күн бұрын
Got top 4 in one of the first Reg G online tours and bronzong single handedly carried a round. Tera fire + Iron/press walled his calyrex ice and the opposing bloodmoon ursaluna literally couldnt hurt it thanks ti steel + levitate. If you need a bloodmoon answer or a general physical defensive wall this is the guy
@aeonater15 күн бұрын
Glad to see some Bronzong appreciation, love that guy.
@HerMajestyVelvet16 күн бұрын
Now I wonder what the most over appreciated pokemon is?
@someonespc26916 күн бұрын
This was THE reg G peliper back in VGC 2016
@sladevalen212016 күн бұрын
Huge fan of bronzong! I tend to run him in playthroughs of fan games whenever i can get one
@DarkAuraLord16 күн бұрын
Pleasantly surprised to see a vid on my favorite pokemon of all time! King Gongbit doesn't get enough love.
@GoesGoingToGoGo14 күн бұрын
A PowerPoint about certain formulas in Pokemon like damage and such could be a cool topic to cover, I don’t fully understand them
@samiel871116 күн бұрын
Bronzong makes a great anchor to a team on an adventure. With fantastic bulk, great resists, and decent power, it makes for a good pokemon to throw out in front of the opponent while you spam revives and potions on the rest of your team.
@gjmguy799416 күн бұрын
Gen 7 I remember messing around with a Z-Trick Room Bronzong in doubles. Z-Trick Room boosted accuracy letting Bronzong land accurate hypnosis with its low speed in trick room to sleep whatever its trick room sweeping parter wasn’t trying to knock out.
@Conre116 күн бұрын
While the video does bring up some solid points, regrettably, Risk of Rain 2 has caused me to have a irreversible hatred towards them, because a common, very powerful enemy responsible for ending your run faster than you can say "thank you hopoo" later on, the Brass Contraption, is a giant brass bell that psychically throws spiked balls of pure hatred at you, and very much looks similar to them
@aaronlaluzerne39214 күн бұрын
Most Underappreciated? Have you forgotten about poor Raichu?
@shinigamimiroku372316 күн бұрын
I know PowerPoint gets memed on a lot, but this was an enjoyable presentation. Well done!
@matigamer32916 күн бұрын
Bronzong is one of my favourite psyquic type pokémon, in fact for a while it was top 1 but now it's Deoxys.
@Psycchan15 күн бұрын
bronzong is just such a friend :3 and theyre an INCREDIBLE nuzlocke encounter
@melnolastnamegiven793216 күн бұрын
Shoutout to blue/green floating psychic types, gotta be one of my favorite genres of Pokemon
@pannekook200016 күн бұрын
i used a bronzong in my first play through of Renegade Platinum. It was on a rain team and i was running dual screens/stealth rock/explosion for bosses; it would take a couple hits setting up screens and rocks then explode for a free switch. for catching legendaries it had heal block and hypnosis iirc, so it was all around a fantastic member. that was the latest generation where i actually sat down and completed the pokédex and it was the key element that let me do that
@Richard-ec8xy16 күн бұрын
Fact you can get it in the first Mt coronet cave is crazy. It can stay in your team the whole game and ALWAYS be useful
@bakonandsonicfamily293016 күн бұрын
Fun fact: Mr Beast picked Bronzong in his gen 5 Pokemon Showdown team :D
@NihilTruth16 күн бұрын
I like Bronzong. Its minor in terms of balance in competitive but I like the Heatproof/Levitate thing where what its weakness is changes depending on the ability
@balduccirichard16 күн бұрын
The fact it doesn't learn Heal Bell or Rapid Spin is a travesty, the dude is literally a bell!
@bugjams16 күн бұрын
I remember back when Action Replay was a thing, I hacked a new playthrough of Black/White to do a "Sinnoh run" where I got myself the 3 Sinnoh starters, and 3 other mons (I forget exactly which ones, but I _know_ one of them was a Bronzor. I think _maybe_ the other two were Shinx and Skorupi?) Anyways, good memories. Bronzong was way better than I imagined it would be, tanking pretty much everything while still hitting extremely hard with Psychic. ...man, I miss action replay shenanigans.
@destroyer492916 күн бұрын
After I almost swept someone with a bronzong by it existing long enough I have never undervalued it
@uberlephrad821816 күн бұрын
When Bronzong is talked about, I remember my first Draft League battle where it set up in front of Iron Bundle and ran over 4 mons, tera-ing in the middle to dodge a dark pulse and finishing the sweep off killing Tapu koko. Absolute legend.
@sandy_nes3116 күн бұрын
Always loved Bronzong, i'm glad my boy is getting some appreciation
@NaughtWalter16 күн бұрын
One of my favorite spicy defense types, along with claydol and cofagrigus
@lyncario551516 күн бұрын
Special shout out to how good Bronzong performs in nuzlockes too, more specifically in Plat. As it turns out, a super bulky pokemon with tons of support moves and resistances with only 1 weakess as a tradeoff is super good when you don't want your team to faint.
@neo_b15 күн бұрын
i feel personally attacked whenever bronzor line is mentioned, i have phased so many times on them while shiny hunting throughout so many games
@simpdemarie316 күн бұрын
I'm thinking of using iron defense body press trickroom to be a counter to the funni dog with shield and calyrex ice Any tips?
@pklifeupa706416 күн бұрын
I had a Bronzong with Speed Swap, he was cooking.
@reillysmith293415 күн бұрын
THATS MY MF BOY, BRONZONG LOVERS STAND UP!!!!!!!!!!
@gamez442016 күн бұрын
every generation I always build atleast 1 team with Bronzong. Its such a reliable glue at times
@banditrests16 күн бұрын
Very few Pokemon have won worlds twice so it’s certainly in rarified air. Probably won’t see to much usage this year unless Groudon or Zacian gets better but it can run iron defense/body press now, that just tends to be better on defensive fighting types like zam and komo
@Cosplaybuddygiraffes16 күн бұрын
THAT’S MY GOAT BRONZONG!!! I did a casual playthrough of Platinum a while back and my Bronzong named Quasimodo ended up being a sleeper MVP: Surprisingly tanky and INSANE utility movepool.
@FennekMaster16 күн бұрын
Love this thing in draft league, insane amount of utility and bulk allows you to do a lot of things with it from setting up trick room to being a body press sweeper. (Shout out to the person who got 6-0 by the latter set)
@sonitdhusia706415 күн бұрын
I want to know if clawitzer was ever good. I love it's design and recently started to use it on my VGC reg g team since it threatens so much damage and can heal allies more than floral healing.
@liamrobert246016 күн бұрын
Couldn’t have beaten my first platinum nuzlocke without bronzor/bronzong,flexible yet reliable mon from gym 2 to Cynthia
@june991416 күн бұрын
I think it’d be funny if Bronzong got memento and perish song as well as celebrate helping hand and aqua ring. Coz yknow, death knells and wedding bells
@jai24916 күн бұрын
Always liked its design based on the Dōtaku Really cool
@adamelder860916 күн бұрын
Thank you for Shouting out Palestine 🇵🇸 ❤️
@InsertFunnyThingHere16 күн бұрын
Bronzong also hard walls almost the entirety of Platinum so that's sorta hype. They even give you a trick room tm.
@deinhien729615 күн бұрын
bronzong has been my favorite since i played pear on the ds as a kid, i always love using it in teams its just a solid guy all
@sanga138015 күн бұрын
7-8 year old me not reading levitate against the E4 because I never saw it before and thought only flying types were immune to earthquake. WHY ISNT IT DYING.
@redwings1340016 күн бұрын
Bronzong is awesome. It's never too overbearing defensively since it lacks recovery, and it's never too overwhelming offensively because of its low speed and lower attacking stats. What it does have is an incredible support movepool, an incredible typing, and just enough stats to make it work. It's never going to win a game by itself, but it can be the glue that holds your team together.
@armorbearer970215 күн бұрын
I learned to respect Bronzong's defensive abilities when Lucian used it as his ace.
@WildArt012316 күн бұрын
Hypno is underappreciated It's cute It's the perfect hugging buddy
@PoisedHD16 күн бұрын
this is my personal favorite mon. god of the ps om “pokebilities” w all three abilities at once
@CBSnB2R16 күн бұрын
I don't get the notification for this video, my comment streak is now ruined. Anyway bronzong is cool, great video.
@akiel94116 күн бұрын
It's the only pre-gen9 pokemon that I used in my playthrough of Violet. Cool dude.
@Lily_beez16 күн бұрын
Poor bronzong, always being overshadowed by the other psychic/steel pokemon (which are all legendary's or pseudo legendary), but bronzong will always be the best one to us ❤️🫶
@edoardocaccia622616 күн бұрын
I like Bronzong's geometric design but it was a pretty unassuming dude, since the first time I saw it being used in place of cresselia insome teams in 2016 it grew on me
@yourconscious16 күн бұрын
I've gotten away with using heatproof bronzong because people expect the levitate and the turn it takes to test is a turn they can't prevent trick room
@zefjansen501116 күн бұрын
I'd love for bronzong to get a bit of love in gen 10 again.
@matt661916 күн бұрын
Don’t forget that bronzong pretty much walls Cynthia’s entire team with levitate, my favorite part about it no doubt.
@Foolish_Spoon16 күн бұрын
finally, appreciation for the b e l l
@AnkanBob14 күн бұрын
welcome to gen iv ou where my custap bronzong goes 3 to one while getting up rocks
@alessandrosaltarin999015 күн бұрын
Carillon, my beloved
@aronthegreat293516 күн бұрын
Love my big bronze bell so much
@Fwibl16 күн бұрын
Bronzong is my favorite tank. Iron defense, calm mind, rest flash cannon. I ran heatproof cause it was a free turn of setup thinking i was gonna run levitate, also helped with burn. Went 300:10 in gen 5 1v1s back in the day
@90percentzebra16 күн бұрын
Bronzong may be great but back when I played Diamond as my first game and didnt know about type matchups I seriously struggled with every Bronzor I came across, that flat tanky bastard.
@Simothedev16 күн бұрын
damn, this guy goes crazy on 2x speed
@mintx172016 күн бұрын
Honestly a "better" levitating steel that's not weak to knock can probably bring a lot of ubers back to OU.
@vossboss22016 күн бұрын
Bronzong essentially gets a free ground immunity becsuse everyone just assumes most of the time you are run ing levitate 😂
@Fwibl16 күн бұрын
This is why I run Heatproof, and 1 turn off iron defense is enough to tank a turn 2 EQ. The only issue is if you suspect earth power, just set up calm mind and hope leftovers heals enough.
@dariog902916 күн бұрын
Literally my favourite mon of all lool
@CoppermineTypeK16 күн бұрын
Brongzong is one of my fav Gen 4 moms I just wish it was better in single player
@seDrakonkill16 күн бұрын
698 views in 13 minutes, this guy balls more than I ever will.
@oggggo16 күн бұрын
I'm sorry, but I still have terrible memories of trying to grind in Gen 4, and having to fight just **so many** wild Bronzong and play "guess which ability", and invariably if I lead off with a ground type attack they would have Levitate, but if I tried fire first it would be Heatproof. Combined with how bulky they were, it made leveling up so tedious.
@wail1316 күн бұрын
YESSSSS BRONZONG POSTING 🔔🔔🔔🔔🔔
@seronimo__773516 күн бұрын
How OP would Bronzong be with Drizzle? Because the ability would be perfect considering its dex entries.
@Fwibl16 күн бұрын
Drizzle would essentially be heatproof but trade burn reduction for weather effect. Since both half fire damage. So it would be an even better support pokemon. Would have been cool to make that its hidden ability instead of the useless one it has
@Aryzo16 күн бұрын
Love bronzong. Bros an absolute monster of a steel bell.
@wurmkreis347715 күн бұрын
By far my most hated pokemon I had to fight as a kid in gen4
@bigdaddyzoro1416 күн бұрын
listening at 2x speed
@xmdpxbasketball16 күн бұрын
honestly the only way i can watch these videos
@ElectricWindGirlFriend16 күн бұрын
oh god
@raeidmorad809316 күн бұрын
Brotha how do you hear?
@aggresiveiceberglettuce88486 күн бұрын
Not rekated to mainline pokemon but this thing is such a good mon in rejuv and reborn