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A question for New Covenant Christians

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Cameron stolhand

Cameron stolhand

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Scriptures I referred to in this video.
Jeremiah 17:9
Hebrews 8:10
Matthew 5: 18
Revelation 21

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@KAyLA_K
@KAyLA_K 10 ай бұрын
Love the enthusiasm and how you went about it!! Straight to the point and love the questions to challenge the viewer!! Also glad you used Bible verses as well!!👍
@cameronstolhand7149
@cameronstolhand7149 10 ай бұрын
Thanks! Which view makes more sense to you? Do you believe that we are currently in the New Covenant right now or do you believe that the promises in Hebrews 8 is a promise for the future?
@fearmonger2208
@fearmonger2208 10 ай бұрын
100% correct sir. No we are NOT in the "new covenant" yet. The Messiah supplied the blood sacrifice for the new covenant and for our salvation set for a future time.
@WillcollexStudios
@WillcollexStudios 10 ай бұрын
We follow what God says. By God's grace, if anyone wants to try and answer this, feel free, but make it peaceful. Use the SCRIPTURES as your final authority. Let God be our final authority. Before I break this down, let God be the judge of this, and correct me if I'm wrong in Jesus' name, amen. On the topic of the law, do you not know what Paul said? He was writing to the Christians, the Church. He wrote how we don't need to follow the law anymore, we're not under that schoolmaster. The law was to show how people are in sin, and need the grace and mercy of God, so that when Jesus came and died on the cross, it would fulfill the law that was written. A reread of Romans and Galatians will clear it up. And yes, this is for the church, Galatians 1:2. Why shouldn't you follow your heart? Because your heart is deceitful without God. However, when you get saved, the Holy Spirit comes inside of you, and you are changed and saved by God, you are born again, you are a new creature in Christ, 2 Corinthians 5:17-21. You confuse our heart with the flesh, and see, the flesh is where the lusts come from and sin, Romans 13:14 and Romans 8:5, and the things of the flesh are sinful, Galatians 5:19-21, that they which do those things (abiding by the flesh) shall not inherit the kingdom of God. If you've been born again, you won't have the desire to do worldy things anymore truly in your heart. Your flesh will, but your soul and spirit will love the things of God and innocent things. I have a personal testimony, I used to really like buying LEGO as a collector, and I was a big spender whenever I got money, because I was chasing after the next thing. After I got saved last year, everything changed, and I started putting it down and not desiring it anymore, along with many other things. When GOD is in you by the Holy Spirit and His word, when you are saved, and are sanctified by Him, you won't want the things of the flesh. My speech a year or 2 ago was carnal, but now that I'm saved, the conversation doesn't even have to be about Jesus but I'll just randomly talk about Jesus and the End Times, I'll just bring it up and talk about it. And from the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks, Luke 6:45. Now here's what I have a problem with when it comes to people claiming they're Christian, but yet say you have to follow the Mosaic law and live by works. You are a heretic if you live by works, by all means. Ephesians 2:8-10 is exceedingly clear. Don't pull James chapter 2 out of context, because if you look at the beginning of the letter, it's talking about the Jews scattered abroad. Matthew 7:13-27 is exceedingly clear, that works will not save you. Many will justify themselves with their works on that day of judgement, but Jesus will deny them. Only those that do the will of His Father, our Father. What's the Father's will? To believe on His Son, Jesus Christ, John 6:40. We are saved by Grace through Faith, 2 things there, Grace and Faith. Is works there? Nope. But the Holy Spirit does the works through you, it's not you that do them, Galatians 5:22-23, and what Jesus was saying in the parables, that you will know people by their fruits. As born again believers, we will produce good fruits because we are changed by God, and the Holy Spirit is in us, which the fruits of the Spirit are described in Galatians 5:22-23. Don't you just love how the words of God line up so much? Amazing. Hallelujah! Therefore, if you're saved, God changes your nature, he makes you a new creature in Christ, and you will not abide by the flesh, but by Christ. You will not want to do the things of your flesh, your soul will not want to do those things, because God has changed you. Will you be tempted? Yes. Does that mean that you're not a new creature, and you're not changed? No, you are saved and changed and sanctified in Christ Jesus. We are under Grace. Hallelujah! God bless you all, praying this message reaches whoever it needs to reach, and that people will wake up to the truth. In Jesus' mighty name, amen.
@cameronstolhand7149
@cameronstolhand7149 10 ай бұрын
I'm glad to hear that you recently turned to the Lord brother. I do agree that there is a change after one knows and turns to the Lord however I do not believe that this is what Hebrews 8 was referring to when it said that God's law would be put in your mind and written on your heart. It was obviously talking about a future event which has not yet happened. If you read on to the next verse (Romans 8:11) it said that there would no longer be a need to tell anyone about the Lord because everyone would know the Lord. Do you believe there is still a need to tell people about the Lord right now? If you do how can you say you are currently in the New Covenant? You wrongly suggested that the Mosaic law teaches that we can earn our Salvation through works. That is a false teaching that you should repent from spreading. Nowhere in the old or new testament did it ever say that God made a covenant where you can earn your salvation. You're confusing the old Covenant with an imposter man-made fake Covenant which Jesus continuously rebuke the Pharisees for teaching. What Paul said in Romans 4:3 thoroughly disproves that you could ever earn your salvation through works. In Romans 4:3 Paul taught that even Abraham was justified by his faith and that his works were fruits of his faith not what saved him. When confronted with scripture that clearly contradicts your preconceived biases I would not recommend re-reading second Colossians, Romans and Galatians to reconfirm your biases because according to Peter these writings are hard to understand and ignorant and unstable people twist these letters to their own demise (2nd Peter 3:16) and that sounds like what you are doing. We are currently in the old covenant not the New Covenant. This is why Paul refers to the New Covenant as the promise to come or the great inheritance. When Jesus died the Melchizedek Covenant changed but not the old Covenant. what Jesus accomplished on the cross was a fulfillment of the old covenant not the end of it. If we do not have to follow God's law anymore why did Jesus say that God's law would not disappear until heaven and Earth disappeared? Do you believe that heaven and earth have disappeared?
@WillcollexStudios
@WillcollexStudios 10 ай бұрын
​@@cameronstolhand7149 (Sorry, I didn't see the reply until today)(And when I break down the verses I mention, make sure to read it in the KJV, other translations are perversions) This is the problem with not believing in dispensations (which is a Biblical teaching), you start to mesh together scriptures that aren't supposed to mesh together. The Bible says in 2 Timothy 3:16-17 that all scripture is inspired by God, and that therefore should be used for reproof and correction, for instruction in righteousness. All scripture is inspired, and all scripture is for us, and thanks be to God we have now prophetic things to read for the future, and in that, we can reprove and rebuke the falseness of this world that is here and is coming with the scriptures, but that doesn't mean that some scripture is not for different people in different ages. Because, for example, if we were still under the law, then why do the epistles to the Galatians and the Romans clearly write that we aren't anymore? Can scripture contradict itself? Absolutely not. So what is it saying? As you probably already assumed, both parts of scripture were meant for different groups of people. The Mosaic law was made for the Jews of that time, and the epistles specifically to the church were made for the church age. Is this teaching scriptural, that dispensations are true according to the Bible? Well, Ephesians 1:10-14 says to the church (this epistle is to the church) that in the fullness of times, the dispensation (showing that it's the end of a dispensation), that "he" (assuming to be talking about God) will gather together all things in Christ (meaning at the end of the age, there will be a great gathering of the church). Now here's where the issue comes in with the end times, especially the Tribulation, it says right here in verse 13 that we are sealed by the Holy Spirit of promise. When God seals something, you can't unseal it, it's sealed by God. However, in Revelation 14:9-11 it basically says that if you take the mark, you'll be damned. How does that work if you're sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise? And make no mistake, verse 9 says "If any man", so if anyone does it. So these books, although written to different time periods, can be used to reprove and rebuke and instruction in righteousness and are profitable for doctrine. However, the things in those ages that were meant specifically for those people don't apply to us now. How does this relate to this issue? Let's take the epistle of James for example. Catholics like to use James chapter 2 to say that we still live by works, and that works still justify us, but that clearly contradicts Ephesians 2:8-10. However, if you look at James 1:1, you can see whom it was written, "to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting.". So if it were written for the church, it would've been addressed to the church. And also, it's addressed to the 12 tribes of Israel scattered abroad, yet the Israelites weren't scattered abroad yet... But they are in the end times... You bring up Romans 4:3, again, all scripture is profitable for doctrine, so let's look at it. Abraham believed on God and was counted righteous. Now I don't know how to look at this verse, I'll have to pray and read into it, but again from what I think, it could just be another prophetic thing that happened in the Old Testament to prophecy the New Testament, or something for the prophets back then, or something to do with Abraham's relationship with God. One thing to clearly mention, is tha the law wasn't around for Abraham in his time. But I don't know. However, Jesus didn't die yet to pay for his sins. So this doesn't seem to be a salvation issue of today, but an issue of what happened between Abraham and God back then. And it's different still, because Jesus died on the cross as our sacrifice for our sins, we have all of our transgressions paid for on the cross, which is probably different compared to Abraham back then. So we should both seek the Lord on that. Could you also show the scripture about the inheritance quote from Paul? You keep mentioning the Hebrews 8 quote, and I'll definitely look into that and pray about it. If God reveals something to me, I'd be happy to share it with you and the brethren, whether it lines up with what I was saying or not. Also same with the quote about God's law not passing away. And yes, people believe they're justified by works, and even of the law. Does that mean you shouldn't follow the law? Well the law is perfect, so follow it , but as Christians the Holy Spirit is in us,and so it's not that we feel like we have to do it for our salvation, it's that we want to follow the things written in the law, because as Paul also writes in Romans, the law is good. God bless, 'i pray this blesses you in the mighty name of Jesus Christ, amen.
@cameronstolhand7149
@cameronstolhand7149 10 ай бұрын
@@WillcollexStudios Before I start let's get some things straight. The law of Moses, the Mosaic law, the old Covenant, the law and the prophets are all referring to the same thing. These are all referring to the old Covenant which is a combination of God's law and certain promises that God made. So when the Bible says the law of Moses it is not referring to a man-made law it is referring to God's law which He carved in stone with His finger (Deuteronomy 9: 10). You misunderstand Galatians and Romans. Like I said before Peter Warren that Paul's writings are hard to understand. Yes Paul taught that we are no longer under the law but he was kind of vague in some parts of Galatians and Romans so if you're not reading all of his writings it's easy to misunderstand what he means when he says we are not under the law. The question you need to ask is which law are we not under. He never said that we're not under God's law but you were assuming that's what he meant. Romans 7:25 "Thanks be to God, who delivers me through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, I myself in my mind am a slave to God’s law, but in my sinful nature a slave to the law of sin." Note: you are confusing the law of sin with the old covenant. I'd suggest sitting Paul's writings aside and tell you fully understand the rest of the Bible. Let me try to explain why Abraham was justified by his faith through Jesus. The old Covenant was originally made with Abraham. The Covenant God made with Moses at Mount Sinai was not a different Covenant but it was the same Covenant renewed. This is the same Covenant that you and me are currently under. The promise to Abraham through the old Covenant was that Jesus the Messiah would come through his seed. The old Covenant started with Abraham and was fulfilled through Jesus Christ. Note did I say it was fulfilled through Jesus Christ I did not say it ended through Jesus Christ. Jesus himself said “Do not think that I came to do away with or undo, abolish, destroy, revoke, set aside, throw down or abrogate (depending on which translation you're reading) the law of Moses or the writings of the prophets" ; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished (Matthew 5:17). Note that Jesus did not end the old Covenant he fulfilled it which doesn't mean that he ended it. Then he goes on to tell us when the old Covenant ends. He says when heaven and Earth disappear which is referring to the beginning of the New Covenant and you can read about this in Revelation 20. According to Jesus that's when everything will be accomplished. People like to skip over the part of the verse where he says until heaven and Earth disappear and they like to only read when everything is accomplished and then they falsely insert that he was referring to the cross but that is not the context of Matthew 5:17. I'd suggest watching the video that I uploaded last night entitled "New Covenant old Covenant timeline." In that video I explained what did and what did not change at the cross. He did pay for our sins at the cross but the New Covenant didn't start then. Your interpretation of James 2 is very troubling. He was not preaching legalism he was saying that if you have faith it will produce works. Works is not what saves you. It is faith that saves you and works are fruits of that faith. What James was saying is that if you have faith it will manifest itself through your actions. James was trying to explain how acknowledgment of Jesus's existence is not what saves you but it's the faith, it's being for him. Even Satan acknowledges Jesus's existence but Satan is not for him. Haven't you seen for yourself that since you've known Jesus your life has changed? If since you have known Christ you have not felt convicted in at least some things then I would be very worried for your salvation. God convicts the ones who know him but the ones who do not He gives over to a reprobate mind. The Bible does not say that Christians in the time when the Mark is implemented will lose their salvation by taking a mark. It says that no one who takes the Mark will receive eternal life. This means that people will take it by choice and no saved Christian is going to take the mark.
@cameronstolhand7149
@cameronstolhand7149 10 ай бұрын
@@WillcollexStudios And don't forget to watch that video I uploaded. It addresses the next questions you are going to ask me about the sacrificial law. It's called New Covenant old Covenant timeline.
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