A ride in Leipzig, Germany (2)

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BicycleDutch

BicycleDutch

Жыл бұрын

[Ep. 993] A second ride in Leipzig. This time from the main train station to the Velo-City 2023 conference location. More information in the blog post: bicycledutch.wordpress.com/?p...

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@pj23nl
@pj23nl Жыл бұрын
my bum hurts from all those potholes. holy moly that is some Belgian road quality
@AssBlasster
@AssBlasster Жыл бұрын
You would enjoy biking on American roads even more!
@kailahmann1823
@kailahmann1823 Жыл бұрын
Others have speed bumps, Leipzig has potholes 😂
@VikingDeluxe
@VikingDeluxe Жыл бұрын
That's German average. Trust me and my bum.
@kailahmann1823
@kailahmann1823 Жыл бұрын
@@VikingDeluxe not THAT bad and plain cobblestone might be even better than these fragments of asphalt - especially as the gaps stay filled, if they scrub it of…
@Crustenscharbap
@Crustenscharbap Ай бұрын
Thats why so many Germans cycle a mountainbike.
@Paul_C
@Paul_C Жыл бұрын
Ai, that stretch with the tram rails is, eh, life threatening... not an experience to look forward to.
@mardiffv.8775
@mardiffv.8775 Жыл бұрын
When I was 16 my front wheel got caught in the tram track. Catapulting me 10 meters forward. I performed a good imitation of superman. Then I landed with a summer salt. Pure luck.
@mardiffv.8775
@mardiffv.8775 11 ай бұрын
@@Rabe1907 SUPER um zu hören. Ich liebe es.
@bestgamting
@bestgamting 10 ай бұрын
@@Rabe1907jap, nehme als Beispiel Dortmund.. unfassbar hässliche Fahrradwege, teils nur seitenstreifen auf riesigen Hauptstraßen… aber für Autos natürlich 3 Spuren auf jeder Fahrtrichtung! Anderes Beispiel… Den haag: letztens dort länger Urlaub gemacht, war an einer relativ großen Straße (nähe europäischer Gerichtshof) , aber man konnte ÜBERALL so unfassbar gut mit dem Rad hin .. man man. Und es ist ja nicht nur dort so, sondern in eigentlich jeder Stadt in NL ! Das ist das Beeindruckende daran
@misternaem2103
@misternaem2103 Ай бұрын
Having to ride your bike right near the tram tacks looks wonderful...
@jannetteberends8730
@jannetteberends8730 Жыл бұрын
What a confusing city to cycle
@VikingDeluxe
@VikingDeluxe Жыл бұрын
That's normal german city design.
@severs1966
@severs1966 Жыл бұрын
It appears that the "cycling provision" is much like most of the UK, in that the authorities have put up signs directing you to ride on the footway and assumed that it is enough. It also starts and stop sand starts and stops, just like most cycle routes in the UK. If Leipzig is supposed to be somehow exemplary and leading, then I am given to believe that cycling provision in the rest of germany must be awful.
@electricboi9319
@electricboi9319 Жыл бұрын
I'd say that Leipzig isn't really that good compared to the rest of Germany to be honest. Yes, there might be worse places to cycle, but Leipzig is certainly not above average in that regard. I've cycled alot in Frankfurt for example and can tell you it's alot better there
@rickute1458
@rickute1458 2 ай бұрын
well the fact that you dont speak or play music and that you just ride and ride, i have no choice but to subscribe to your channel !!
@kailahmann1823
@kailahmann1823 Жыл бұрын
Here in Lüneburg we have a former major road with its full design preserved from the 1960s - including dedicated bike lanes. When I see these painted bike lanes in Leipzig they aren't there to replace an undersized lane on the sidewalk - they are to have just anything. 😮
@simpleton7
@simpleton7 Жыл бұрын
What road is that? I guess I've never been much outside of the centre in Lüneburg, and have cycled there exactly once (coming from Lauenberg), but can't remember seeing any really good infra.
@kailahmann1823
@kailahmann1823 Жыл бұрын
@@simpleton7 the Southern half of Lüner Weg - there was originally a train crossing, which as been replaced by only an underpass for bikes and pedestrians. This is currently even the recommend route towards Lauenburg, however I've seen a lot of outdated signage there. Currently they are working on updating that route however. If you followed the "Alte Salzstraße" signage, that sadly is completely outdated. The trick is to turn right in Erbstorf (after the bus stop) and then follow the signs set by the city. This leads over a de-facto bike road ("Grüner Jäger Weg", will become an official soon), through a forest ("Lüner Holz") and then just straight the Lüner Weg towards the train station.
@gnza2012
@gnza2012 Жыл бұрын
When a 60cm bike path shared with pedestrians is better than your segregated infrastructure in your country 💀
@aussiehomecafeandcoffeeroa4475
@aussiehomecafeandcoffeeroa4475 Жыл бұрын
These roads need to be resurfaced
@simpleton7
@simpleton7 Жыл бұрын
Ironically, until you get out of the city here, the 30km/h stretches on the residential streets are probably the most 'mentally' comfortable sections.
@juliebrooke6099
@juliebrooke6099 Жыл бұрын
This looks like somewhere undergoing a lot of development. It would be interesting to return in five or ten years. There is certainly a lot of potential for good cycling infrastructure on those wider streets if the local government has the will.
@miles5600
@miles5600 Жыл бұрын
the streets aren't getting redone anytime soon, it's just the buildings getting redone mostly
@Hurricane2k8
@Hurricane2k8 8 ай бұрын
@@miles5600 This isn't entirely true, Leipzig actually plans on improving its cycling infrastructure significantly, at least much more so than most other german cities.
@miles5600
@miles5600 8 ай бұрын
@@Hurricane2k8 the rest of germany has absolute terrible bike infrastructure if you can even call it bike infrastructure. Do they have street redesign concepts? Also the fietsstraat in germany sucks, it needs a whole different approach.
@ianthekeith
@ianthekeith 10 ай бұрын
The quality of the road surface is similar to what we have in the UK. Lots of frost damage including potholes, patched rather than re-surfaced
@LuizMarcelo-lv4ow
@LuizMarcelo-lv4ow Жыл бұрын
Caramba !!! O asfalto aí é horrível , parece até o asfalto aqui do Brasil !!! Claro .... em alguns lugares
@mardiffv.8775
@mardiffv.8775 Жыл бұрын
De fato, você pode ver do asfalto que a Alemanha Oriental é a parte pobre da Alemanha.
@AssBlasster
@AssBlasster Жыл бұрын
From American eyes, this doesn't look like the greatest bike paths. The narrower streets make it okay enough to cycle here, but not very comfortably. The beginning section in the tram area would have me stopping every block to check google maps...
@acidchunk
@acidchunk Жыл бұрын
As a fellow American, you're 100% correct, but I'd still love to have even a quarter of what they have here :(. Most of our smaller cities are woefully behind. It's a long battle to get this sort of thing, so I applaud them for having what they have, especially when it looks like they're trying to improve. But yeah, that tram section... what were they thinking?
@AmtrakProductions
@AmtrakProductions Жыл бұрын
@16:56 a right on red arrow ?! Wow
@kailahmann1823
@kailahmann1823 Жыл бұрын
Common in Eastern Germany, however Leipzig is currently once again reducing them.
@thomashohle4973
@thomashohle4973 9 ай бұрын
ThomasHöhle Leipziger ❤😂
@YumeFox
@YumeFox 2 ай бұрын
Native Dutchman here, living in Leipzig at the moment. Got a bike after I moved here, but sold it after a couple of months. Cycling in Leipzig is dreadful. The city draws a line on a tarmac, 50 centimeters away from parked cars, draws a bicycle on it and says 'We created bike infrastructure! Yay!'
@Thyaggo.Maciel
@Thyaggo.Maciel Жыл бұрын
Very nice tour, this city is amazing! 💚✨
@timphelps1063
@timphelps1063 Жыл бұрын
How many pedestrians end up in hospital every day? 😅
@hondaryder3779
@hondaryder3779 Жыл бұрын
Shall we start a giro 555 relief aid for these poor ppl😂Come on Germany spread the wealth, where is the Zusammengehörigkeit-solidarity? These images make Luik/Liege and Charleroi almost look beautiful.
@jfv65
@jfv65 Жыл бұрын
hmmm, not very good. narrow bike lanes, poor signage, poor inconsistent pavement surface , poor lines. TBH i expected better from a German city.
@dutchman7623
@dutchman7623 Жыл бұрын
The city is recovering from decades of neglect, as a former East German city it doesn't have much resources to restructure fast. Almost all cities in former West Germany are in a better shape. Reunification did spread rights and freedom, not wealth.
@LikeToDrive
@LikeToDrive Жыл бұрын
@@dutchman7623 totally on point
@Schnorchmorch
@Schnorchmorch Жыл бұрын
It's actually one of the better cities to cycle in Germany. Expectations should be lowered.
@VikingDeluxe
@VikingDeluxe Жыл бұрын
​@@dutchman7623 that is not completly correct. In Germany, hardly no investments have been made in rails, roads, bridges or the Internet in the last 20 years. That's why our cities look like this.
@christineschmidt5052
@christineschmidt5052 9 ай бұрын
Georg Schumann Straße nicht Kurt....
@frankhooper7871
@frankhooper7871 9 ай бұрын
Always amuses me to see the law-abiding Germans standing at the side of a road waiting for the green man when there's no traffic coming in either direction - wouldn't happen in the UK: no traffic? go!
@DonBiroton
@DonBiroton 11 ай бұрын
Paint is not infrastructure
@kevinthiede1434
@kevinthiede1434 Жыл бұрын
damn i live in a different german city and its a lot better than this
@LikeToDrive
@LikeToDrive Жыл бұрын
Hamburg? 😂
@kevinthiede1434
@kevinthiede1434 Жыл бұрын
@@LikeToDrive braunschweig
@simpleton7
@simpleton7 Жыл бұрын
Braunschweig is a lot better than the average (or Hamburg) in my brief experience. This is pretty average, a lot of towns in North-Rhein-Westphalia and of course the former east like this are pretty much like this.
@kevinthiede1434
@kevinthiede1434 Жыл бұрын
@@simpleton7 yeah always disagreed w ppl saying germany has bad bike infrastructure but maybe i just got lucky
@qualm43
@qualm43 Жыл бұрын
very bad compared to dutch.
@Fjodor.Tabularasa
@Fjodor.Tabularasa Жыл бұрын
Everything, from the roads with potholes and cracks to the rundown buildings, looks poverty stricken. Lifeless and soul crushing. I found this a quite depressing video.
@jannetteberends8730
@jannetteberends8730 Жыл бұрын
After 10 minutes in the video, I wondered if Leipzig is a former DDR town. And it was.
@dutchman7623
@dutchman7623 Жыл бұрын
@@jannetteberends8730 Time for a second revolution, one with color and joy.
@florianmallok7770
@florianmallok7770 Жыл бұрын
It depends. Leipzig is actually THE upcoming city and Germany pulling a lot of young people. It has charming quarters, lot of green parks and a vibrant night life. Though ofc it cannot hide 50 years of poor development under East German government and like all big cities, it has some ugly areas. I bet with a different route your impression would have been less depressing ;)
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