RIP 2 DA students

U should do a story on e2 club in Chicago

Being from Illinois, this is both horrifying to remember bits I've heard over the years and also just the way you pronounce everything feels almost right

You could do review of Smederevo fortress explosion, for those who don't know: " After capitulation of Kingdom of Yugoslavia in 17th April 1941, German began to stock all ammunition and gasoline from Yugoslav army in Smederevo fortress (located in Smederevo town in modern day Serbia), German garrison troops became reckless (smoking in front of powder, practice shooting...), not surprising sever small scale explosion did happen and Germans realized that they need to move ammunition away but process was never completed, at 14:14 (2:14 PM) 5th June 1941, series of massive explosions (German made report how many explosion material was stocked: 374 tons of TNT (German Trinitro-Toluol) in barrels, 2800 tons of ammunition of all kinds with 172 tons of explosives and powder and 425,000 detonators along side of bigger amount gasoline), that killed and wounded over 4500 people and hundred of building completely destroyed, fortress mangled with massive crater , even today you can see concequnces of that explosion. That explosion is on equivalent to Halifax explosion or even bigger but don't get enough attention to history books.

they should put up signs that say DANGER attempts at seeing a moving train up close , can be deadly

I used to drive shuttle for rail crews out of Mobile, AL. I had many wonderful conversations with you guys. All of you that I met were so intelligent! And yes, I asked the hard question...every man had been touched by someone or something across the rails in front of them. Be safe out there, Brother!

Burn the brakes burn the engine and throw the anchor out of the window

Hey dude, just be on the ball and do what you can. Do things right, don't make stupid mistakes and you will be ok. From a firefighter, shlt happens and try as we might people get hurt. Just because your driving, does not make someone elses decisions or actions your responsibility. They can live with you but its up to you if you take on their decisions as your moral responsibility. Do your job, do it right.... its all we can all do. Good luck!

Agreed they want to put some of the blame on the bus driver here, but ANY long vehicle is an issue when the junction box isn't long enough. Any lorry (truck) might STALL or suffer some mechanical issue and then, though the driver might have been right on the ball to move off instantly, accident! It's the bad junction at fault here not really any driver. Accident waiting to happen here, inevitable.

especially with how long it takes for a train to come to a full stop

That's right, when people don't think things through, have poor reaction time, and absolutely no ability to handle a stressful situation, it's entirely up to the world to be safe for them! 100%!

​@@Inumuro yes, that's 100% right! Crap human factors and shit design are never at fault! Never blame the authorities when you can scapegoat some hapless schlub!

I was born and raised in the Chicago suburbs. I was about 9 when this happened. I live in Mount Prospect, and I wasn't close enough that I knew anyone involved, but it was brought up when we had our bus safety drill that year. My parents moved to Cary a few years ago. For a time, the route I took to visit them took me right past the intersection where the accident happened. I always looked out for the memorial as I passed.

As someone who had to ride plenty of noisy school buses, I could imagine it was probably hard to hear what the kids were shouting unless they were clear and mostly in unison. Some kid could've been stabbing another kid in the back of the bus, so it's a logical instinct to want to check and make sure that isn't happening, if you don't know what the commotion is about. Given that there were at least 20 other incidents with this same intersection, I would say that yes, certain aspects of the world do need to be designed more safely. Not everyone has superhero reaction time or 24/7 perfect thoughts. Safe urban planning is not too much to expect from a city, it should come standard.

@@Inumuro Generally speaking, most people don't expect to be hit by a train at a stop light after having gone over the railroad crossing. The junction was poorly designed, and a better junction would've made this scenario outright impossible. While some blame rests on the driver, the appearance of a driver who would make this mistake was essentially guaranteed. First time on a route, loud bus, terrible junction.

Yes, but those actions wouldn't have actually prevented this. It's security theater

@@pepperypeppers2755 nope. PER the NTSB safety report, which is easily and freely accessible online, they specify the degree of injury to students sitting in specific seat rows, specify which seats students who had stood and begun moving forward had occupied, and also the degree of injury suffered by those specific students who HAD moved forward. MOST of those seated in rows with severe injuries who had moved forward suffered less severe injury. For example, there are at least two separate children I see at a glance were seated *directly* next to a fatality but who got out of their seat and moved forward, and suffered only minor injuries. It's NOT security theater. Not everything you personally think seems stupid, and therefore declare to be "security theater," IS actually stupid security theater. I do like your username though

Same here but cary. Cg or Barrington?

@@jayyydizzzle CG here.

​@@merlinious01 Marengo here

They were volunteer firefighters and training to be paramedics before this. One of them saved the other's life, thanks to their training.

The dilemma all train drivers face. Everyone would have had at least one of these moments at the point they retired. They all suffered some level of PTSD.

@@TUXmint oh my gosh…I’m so sorry you had to experienced that 😰

sound the horn A LOT earlier?

@@rabidbeaver167 My thinking on this, after watching the video, is that she heard the horn but didn’t realize she was actually in the path of the train until it was too late. Trains always sound their horn coming to a crossing so it wouldn’t have caused anyone to interpret the horn as “you are literally on the tracks.”

@@stephanieparker1250 Seems pretty obvious that they should have two different sounding horns. One for normal operation and a second emergency one of a different sound.

I know what you mean, being from a town that also has a lot of train crossings. From what I have seen, some people just see the tracks as a less annoying speed bump.

@@TheAbyssalStorm i think a lot of it these days, and i've had these thoughts myself so I'm part of the problem, but there's just not as much train traffic these days, crossings HAVE been reduced to annoying bumps in some areas where trains just don't run anymore might be a Michigan thing since most tracks seem to have their endpoints here, especially the ones leading from the mining industries, i dunno how active trains are in the rest of the country, but around here people generally tend to ignore inactive crossings, active crossings are viewed as a nuisance, this probably isn't a good thing

I used to live near a very busy inner city level crossing and it was some wild times that's for sure. Trains never really went much faster than a few km/h as it approached a station right next to it but it would get some express service that just blasted right though at 80km/h once in a while. So yep, more than a few drunks decided that dinging and red light just meant stumble quicker and didn't make it along with an endless stream of impatient drivers that got to meet the Superbonker Express first hand. Weirdly, I don't think many people got killed, the odd walk with a limp and shit in a bag for life kinds of injuries and a few cars that got dragged a hundred metres or so.

Some people just can't think past the rules. Some call this being DEAD RIGHT! When a train is coming you cross the road, because a possible collision with a 2k lb car will cause less damage than a certain collision with a train. Evin if the DOT and School were negligent, they were in no position to prevent the collision.

I have a very similar junction on my way to school shown in the video that up until recently just had a stop sign. It's right next to the school parking lot so many inexperienced high school drivers go through it every day. It's crazy how many times I saw people stop on the tracks and even at one point when the crossing seemed not to be going up cars just started going around the barriers, it baffles me how people don't understand the dangers present in that kind of situation.

I drove one in 1985 when I was 16 in NC. We had to open the door and window before crossing tracks.

@@Lemmon714_ wish we had thought of it that early around here.

probably would not have helped in this situation. The train would have been very distant when she arrived at the tracks. Don't forget that an entire traffic light sequence completed before the train arrived

We have that law in NY too. Now I know why!

thats a stupid rule. what if the bus driver has poor hearing or the train is quiet. So stupid.

My dad lost his friend in this crash, he was a kid and worked with him the day before, then he had to stand at his funeral not even a week later, he said it was a formative experience but I wish he didn't have to go through that

You can't ignore the kids if they're screaming about there being a fire or some other danger though?

@@Roadent1241 Fake bomb threats and guns are a staple with the troubled kids, especially at busy intersections. Even regular kids often scream and prank. But road hazards are always real, and drivers are foremost expected to drive safely. Find a place to pull over calmly first. Most bus accidents are not from anything unusual, but like with other vehicular incidents--the driver got distracted.

​@@Roadent1241 kids yelled and screamed all the time. My bus didn't have an assistant so it was just the driver and us kids, I'd literally hear them "I bet 5$ I can get Mrs. X to yell my name" "Nah man I bet 7 that I can get her to stop the bus and come back here" distracting the driver was a game to them

@@Roadent1241 They scream and "cry wolf" all the time

@@peregrination3643 Oh yeah I've just remembered my mother used to drive my school bus when I was in middle school, and we're British so we didn't have threats like that. But yeah they can be noisy for no reason. She took no crap. Made everybody be home late early on in the job because she would pull over (country roads so barely any cars ever) everytime they acted up so they learned.

Scary! Hadn't heard of it but moved to Georgia in 1981. Oddly, I came from college in Chicago but had lived about 30 miles from the above accident. Cue spooky music 😮

Where at in Fayette County, I frequent that area quiet often

@@amtraklover In 1980, Hwy 74 went straight through Tyrone. The crossing was Hwy 74 and East Crestwood, turning off the highway. The road crosses the track & immediately turns right. She stopped just before the turn to let a girl off and didn't clear the tracks.

​@susan stedman oh my gosh thats horrifying to know that happened in Tyrone, im glad no one was killed

Female driver or male? I'm collecting data.

Yep...and there's other risks too, its infrequent but sometimes a strap or load comes loose and the crew may be unaware that it's flying along like a knife part way back. Not ideal for a car but WAY worse for a pedestrian or biker if they are within the striking zone.

@@matthewmiller6068 good point, we had a bunch of grass fires along the train tracks that was blamed on a chain being dragged and sparking fires during our then drought

I worked at a warehouse where we had a built in railstation for shipping. Feeling the ground shift beneath your feet as a train goes by mere feet away really drives home the sense of power and weight they're really moving.

@@BootScoot agreed, it sounded like a scene from Jurassic Park

Ayeee I grew up in the Ottawa area too, and I vaguely remember hearing about it too, even years later in like, the early 2000s! Buses on the track of railroad crossings were one of the examples for the escape plan/bus safety drills we had to do in my elementary school lol

I remember it... out in Alberta...

I know what your talking about, the panic was real and lasting. I was too young to be in school when it happened, but both my parents had jobs as bus drivers a few years later and this was still clear in everyone’s minds. It was mentioned in all their training videos and company meetings and there were signs everywhere. For my entire childhood, I genuinely believed the school buses greatest enemy was the train; and as a grown up, it’s incredible to see kids these days don’t have the same experience or fears.

Ya I think alot of school districts require busses to stop at any railroad crossing and make sure there's no train even if the rails aren't frequently used

613 gang!

Thank you for the suggestion!

​@@PlainlyDifficult That would be a great subject to cover. Not great it happened, but interesting. Batteries stolen! Wow.

Also the train driver was accused of negligence and sent to 3 years in prison, because he should have crossed the junction at 15 km/h, but instead he was travelling at 78 km/h. Influenced by this tragedy railway crossing signals in Hungary have to operate by unique type of batteries that cannot be used for other purposes.

@@timtripp4222 I have friends in South Africa, where infrastructure equipment like that sort of battery are stolen regularly.

... please tell me someone had the brilliant idea to do the most obvious fix for this and make it so the crossing arms fail _closed_ if nothing else, because if they fail _open_ then the whole system is really at the mercy of 'is it a power outage? when's the last time someone actually _checked these batteries_?', and as a techie person, that scary

I wonder if kids tried running to the front of the bus

The gut reaction is to blame her, but once you think about it, it 100% wasn't her fault. She stopped where she was marked to stop, so she assumed rightfully that the bus was clear. After all, she was only 2 inches over the track, but the train stuck out a couple feet. So even if she did check her mirrors, it wouldn't have been easy to spot. Then think back to riding the bus as a kid. I guarantee all those kids were screaming different things while the train must have been blasting its horn. Then, on top of that, you hear a crashing sound (the gate hitting the bus) and wonder what that was. All this happened in what 25-30 seconds. She was doomed. She had every right to feel safe stopping where the road told her to stop. It was a complete breakdown of the system.

@@Dan55888some of them did, and lived.

@@Mantis_Toboggan_TrashMan Yeah, I'd like to question the muppet that put traffic lights so close to just after a railway crossing. That's just asking for a disaster. If not one like this, one where a car gets sandwiched between two others, then stuck between the barriers. Good lord.

​@@AlphaGargit was explained that this was the result of an Ongoing expansion of the highway there was a lack of foresight but this was a hard disaster to predict ngl

Jesus, that’s horrifying.

A deaf school bus driver is a happy one

@@erik_dk842, when the time will come for me, I want to go peacefully in my sleep, like my uncle did. Not screaming in horror like his passengers.

@@seriouscat2231 Me too LOL

​​@@seriouscat2231his reads like one of those two sentence horror stories

I've seen similar stuff in videos. I've never understood how hearing something bonk the roof of your vehicle at a RR crossing doesn't trigger panic in any driver.

Same thing happened to me, but I was on the bus. Kids were screaming and the bus driver was angry because somehow it was "obvious" we wouldn't get hit just because the crossing guard was on our roof

Honestly the more I think about it the weirder it seems that there are this many stories about the exact same thing in these comments. How do all these drivers not react? Every time I've ever seen a train cross a street, the crossing doesn't just close and flash, it also makes a very loud *CLANG CLANG CLANG* noise well before the train arrives.

when i was in 4th grade we were going on a field trip into the city, and ran into a junction like this, almost the exact same situation unfolded but the bus driver was like screw this and slammed into the car in front of them instead. sure they got in trouble but we dodged a train.

@@persomnus what? He’s angry because it’s obvious that the bus would get hit?

Probably increased your lifespan also. It's bad, but it's also the least-worst option.

To your credit, even plenty of seasoned drivers could have fallen victim to the circumstance merely to being in "autopilot" while driving to or from work. Regardless, glad that you viewed it as a teaching moment and made it out okay 😁

@@NealBones I stopped thinking like a teenager that day. While I was waiting for the police to respond, I had plenty of time to consider the decisions that led to that point and I decided to own my inexperience and poor judgment and do better going forward. I did intentionally blow through a red light in hillside nj when a carjacker put a gun to my face 20 years later, but that's a different story and I don't think anyone would have chosen to do otherwise,

@berelinde Gun to my face, I'm zooming off myself! That being said, as a younger man myself, thank you for sharing your stories for both myself and those younger to learn from 🤝

"Kind of a given" most 17 year olds don't endanger themselves and others. You're special.

Yeah, I work in Barrington and cross that intersection all the time. It still weirds me out every time, like I'm driving over a grave or something.

I took 14 south to work for years and nearly every major intersection between Harvard and Crystal Lake has a cross at it, many of which had been there for years. Really stopping to think about that tells you just how dangerous so many of the intersections are. Something that sadly gets lost among the other topics that are deemed more important.

Sadly true

Could of been avoidable if they never made that a part of the bus route.

Most accidents are avoidable through relatively simple actions being taken.

@@GoatzombieBubba ​ yeah and I agree, of course, but that would only avoid this accident and other school bus route accidents (specifically saying routes here because there’s field-trips and whatnot), but even then, school buses aren’t the only long vehicles to go through those areas, and like- yes the driver needs to be aware of things, but there’s a variety of reasons why I find that realistically, the main problem/group to blame here to be the road planners and whatnot. (Not to say there’s no fault to anyone else in individual incidents, but rather that, in general, it is a major part of this group’s job to meticulously check road plans for safety and design concerns, and they are to be held to a far higher standard, and know to calculate for human/driver error, especially since they are mostly, or at least partially funded by taxpayer dollars and are expected to keep the people safe to the best of their ability using every [reasonable] measure at their disposal) A. People are bound to make mistakes, and even small ones here can lead to death, possibly without someone realizing, B. Cars aren’t perfect, they’re machines that can have all kinds of problems happen seemingly out of nowhere sometimes, often while they’re being driven, bigger vehicles take way longer to move, especially if they’re carrying goods/cargo, and sometimes can be a good bit longer than a school bus as well, and that 7 second window of time to get off the track may not be long enough to get out of the way, C. If there’s a lot of of traffic on the highway or some other sort of traffic problem happening there, it may prevent a longer vehicle from being able to turn onto the highway and out of harms way. Obviously you can be careful and keep a close eye on things, but realistically, that 25 seconds or so isn’t always enough warning, and in some situations it may even be impossible to move out of the way in time. I also feel like while yes the bus driver is partially to blame here, it’s important to keep in mind just HOW chaotic and dangerous a bus full of children can be. and yes, I’m absolutely including even a bus full of elementary kids. As someone who used to take the bus when I was younger, I can confirm that all kinds of things, from physical fights, to students waxing eachother, to passing smokes or vapes around, to lighting things on fire, and more, happen on school buses. And that’s a lot of pressure to put on one person driving a bus full of 30 or more kids, because they’re expected to both keep an eye on the kids and the road at all times, and considering this was a new route for her and she wasn’t usually a driver, it’s understandable why she did what she did. And while the students may have been trying to warn her, it’s clear things were too chaotic and confusing for her to understand what they were saying in time.

@@GoatzombieBubba It's impossible in many cases. My HS didn't offer physics, so we were bused to a nearby school which did. There was a major road and railroad tracks running parallel to each other between the two schools. There was literally no way to get from one school to the other without crossing those railroad tracks. And because the history of the road and tracks was similar to the one in the video, every railroad crossing within about a 5 mile radius was like the one in the video (only with a bit more space). They finally fixed it about 25 years later. Major project shutting down each road for 1.5 years, one after the other, and converting each railroad crossing into an overpass.

People just have to remember that everything is not all about them. Tracks mean danger and drivers have become more aggressive and territorial over the century. You cannot eliminate every danger related to driving, there has to be some common sense.

I've seen that in a lot of places in Texas. Lots of very weird turn offs that go over train tracks almost immediately.

@@martyjoseph9507 I agree people need to improve in driving but in this case the bus didn't fit in the intersection, the whole set up was an unnecessary hazard

@@martyjoseph9507 if the bus fit in the intersection properly this coulda been avoided though, bad road design is to blame as well as the driver not going on green but them widening roads and to not mess with shit on the other side taking some safety off the other is crazy and there are worse intersections out there, ones that have you immediately turning on tracks, god forbid any long vehicles like trucks or buses have to make those horrible turns. in the city i used to live these track intersections were also seldom maintenanced so lights often didnt work or thered be lights but no sound. or better yet, a railroad or two would only have a stop sign and no lights or horns

@@thebilldozer7970 it was unnecessary, but it existed. My choice on a new to me route with a train coming would've been to trust the kids screaming versus seeing what's going on. Easy mistake for everyone to make and overlook, but sometimes you gotta move it.

I knew the FRG chief of police at the time, Bob Polston. Was a kid when this happened, but mom would tell me that that morning, he was having coffee at a local coffee shop with someone who had concerns over this intersections safety. He watched the accident happen. Said it was the worst day of his career. RIP.

The engineer lived. He got out of it finestkind.

Like telling kids not to go in the attic. Not from the real danger of falling through the beams but because of the monsters up there 😳

Not to mention it's counterproductive telling kids not to yell if they see a train about to hit them.

lol what kind of maggot would blame the kids.

​@@solandri69 it's hard to make out what several kids are shouting all at once all the way across the bus. She was a substitute too so she wouldn't know the danger of the route nor if the kids are normally a rowdy bunch or if they're expressing something is wrong. The bus I rode in high school was always quiet so if we started screaming our driver would've known something bad is happening but the bus I rode in middle school was so bad and loud there were even fights that broke out mid intersection.

@@katrinascarlet5637 Surely it should have occurred to her that the reason they were yelling is her long-ass bus was about to get hit by a train? How can she be so stupid/unaware.

Same here. I have wondered why the students at the rear of the bus did not rush to the front when they saw the train bearing down on them. Not to mention why the driver didn't hear the train's horn and edge forward. We've been trained to be docile, stay seated, and obey traffic signals even seven they put us in danger. My son drives a school bus, and while it's not a high status job, I cannot imagine a steadier hand on the wheel.

​@@erynlasgalen1949 That's what sad. Some of them did but they still died.

Yup. I honestly would love to see all train crossings blown up so actual competent road design can replace them. Nowadays they keep adding more lanes with no regard to existing infrastructure. I hate it here

@@henrymorales9584 Government: we needed to demolish this neighborhood to add 69 more lanes to solve traffic congestion. Also Government: we can't make road infrastructure safer because we would have to make it inconvenient for drivers and the neighborhood.

There was another place on 14 near Arlington Racetrack, can't remember the crossroad, but it always made me nervous.

​@@maryeckel9682 The counties have to do something about it. It's a tragedy waiting to happen.

I don't hear anything when I'm stressed

Where I'm from, trains will always blow their horn when crossing a roadway, 24/7. It doesn't necessarily mean something's in their way, just that they're crossing

This all transpired in a matter of literally seconds. I'm sure her adrenaline was running, and that can cause a "tunnel vision" effect where your brain will hyperfocus on some things and miss others. The first thing that goes is hearing. It's an involuntary response that happens even to people who are trained for dealing with crises.

​@@erik_dk842then you should get hearing aids or shouldn't be allowed to drive

@@secretgirlnowI’m glad the trains don’t do that here, we have level crossings right through the town centre and when one does need to use the horn everyone can hear it, the sound travels about 3 miles. But I can definitely see why they’d want to require something like that, when there’s crossings like this.

And if the kids say that part of the bus is still on the tracks with a train approaching, then take it seriously and don’t just ignore them.

I just started driver training for city busses on Monday. Nightmare fuel.

@@TXnine7nine of course luckily I never had to cross such poorly designed railroad crossings.

@@TXnine7nine This part of this story made me more angry at the driver than expected, you have a bunch of people (kids or adults) yelling go, you freaking go!!!

@@D3M3NT3Dstrang3r All the commotion could make it a confusing situation.

Thank you its my own music

@@PlainlyDifficult YO FR?? thats awesome! :0

@@PlainlyDifficult the music really adds a lot to these videos!

Really appreciated your comment. I found the short warming times described in the video really scary - so little time for drivers to react if anything has gone wrong! So glad to hear better design prevails today.

I can't believe the school had you reading News papers, writing report, & thinking critically. The good days of learning in sted of today's indoctrination centers run by Unions.

@@timtripp4222 it’s No Child Left Behind that squeezed out any room for that because you can’t standardized test for it. But whatever you need to tell yourself. Maybe do some critical thinking of your own.

@@timtripp4222As someone who also attended the NYC schools in that era, I can assure you that the teachers who were assigning those critical thinking assignments you admire so much were union members.

@@timtripp4222 I can assure you that children these days take part in similar activities… maybe not in every district, Which sucks, but as someone currently in high school we did much of the same stuff in elementary

I remember this one. Everyone was blaming the driver at first. The kids said they were yelling at her to go but she hesitated. Then they started investigating the crossing. The last thing I remember hearing was that “sometimes the RR warning lights didn’t come on”. I never knew that it was by design that the driver would have never been in a position to see them.

You mean derailment caused by precision scheduled railroading

Many thanks!

I saw the setup and thought, "Oh, no. You are _guaranteeing_ an accident. It's a matter of when, not if."

There is a similar crossing in a town closeby, but it's 33m between the tracks and the crossing, and there is another crossing directly at the other side of the rail, and both crossings are synced, and the crossing is direct at the train station, so most trains are either coming to a stop or departing at slow speeds anyway. It's just a crossing that connects two roads running parallel to the tracks and a road going off to the side that connects a handful farms.

I posted this on a previous video. I think it would be a perfect video for his series.

Yes, Granville deserves the John treatment for sure.

No they did that by law ever since the 1950's.

I'm sure she checked before crossing the tracks, just didn't think the whole scenario through when she left her butt on them, or didn't realize the urgency to avoid the train even if she was distracted by the commotion in the back. New route, bad design, bad spacial awareness

This was standard practice long before this accident and would have had no effect on this accident.

Trains are like bullets fired at you, the one you don't hear is the one that'll get you. There are far too many instances where a fast moving train can be quite close to you yet you're unable to hear it's approach.

Every bus I had ridden on stopped directly over the tracks and then opened the doors for the driver to check both ways. I never understood why, especially if there's a train coming- how that would be helpful!?

Nobody forced the driver to stop across an active railroad.

@@cooldude7301 1. The driver didn't know she was in the way of the train 2. The driver presumably stopped as far forward as possible If you can find information to refute this, I would like to see it to be sure that I am making an assessment with all of the necessary information.

@@raphaeldagamer 1. I agree she obviously did not know she was in the way of the train. She should not have proceeded to cross the railway line unless she was 100% sure she would be able to fully cross it with her vehicle. To do otherwise is mindboggingly stupid. 2. Perhaps she should have stopped BEFORE the train line?? And if this did not activate the light, she should have refused to cross that train line, and sought an alternative route. The moment she crossed that train line she made a huge mistake.

@@raphaeldagamer Oh and she should have been 100% familiar with the route beforehand. And the risks/danger spots. She should not have driven the vehicle if she was unfamiliar with the route.

@@raphaeldagamer she was someone who was in charge of training other drivers so she damn well should know the dangers of train crossings.

Here kitty...

@@k53847 I use "Swheat Scoop"" for my cat as well...

yep, its worse now as its two four lane intersections where we have like 7 major streets feeding them.

4:44 the horrid junctions

Most were replaced with tunnels underneath the rails.

"I donno if they would have been better off staying in the back or not" Gonna press X to doubt right there. its going to pivot around the heaviest mass.... the engine, so the closer to the dash the higher the likelyhood of survival (and being low to the floor sheilding the head). Hence the driver was only lightly injured.

Maybe, but I feel like most of the ones in the further/furthest back that moved would almost have definitely died from the impact if they stayed there anyways, due to the sheer force of that train ripping through the bus

"it seemed like they were hosed either way" I couldn't have thought of a gentler way to phrase it myself.

In all likelihood, the bus was not equipped with seat belts (most aren't), so any students who stayed in the back wouldn't have been secured to anything in either case. Better to flee to the front; most probably didn't have time to get very far.

Hope you got a car that stopped trying to k1ll you...😳

Why would u drive such a shitty car around that could stop working at any moment

@@cooldude7301 Apparently you have a car fairy that just delivers cars.

@@grmpEqweer no im just not stupid enough to drive an old wreck over the train lines

@@cooldude7301 Unless they've got the funds to buy a new car, they either have to cross or find a bridge or something, and depending on the area it could be miles out of their way.

Thank you!

Dont tell me how to drive my school bus!

@@potatopobobot4231 I won't tell you how to drive your bus any more....IF..... you can ramp the railroad tracks without the back tires touching and at least two kids hit their face off a seat

Unfortunately due to the sheer size of the U.S. and its railroad network it's impossible financially to do that outside of major cities. Developing the grade needed to make a safe over-under pass is quite expensive. Also people refuse not to be idiots. The famous low train overpass that's on youtube that people constantly run over sized vehicles into had all sorts of measures done, including the railroad increasing the height of the bridge and redeveloping the grade at great expense to themselves and yet people still take tall vehicles under it despite the electronic measuring system and warning signs.

I think your referring to that one clip of an lillinois central train colliding with an lrst truck causing the truck to plow thru cars in front of it

at least he pronounced it like a local, pretty impressive for someone on another continent.

British phrasing

I later lived in Crystal lake until college, and that intersection is still a sore spot for many who have lived there our whole lives and taken that bus route every day for years.

10 years later to the day a kid got hit on his bike at a neighboring crossing.

great place for dive bars and illicit commodities traders. good Chinese place right by the corner from the video, and a nice little guitar shop at the light a block away but i doubt that's what your friend is referring to, haha.

​@@merlinious01 are you talking about Brian from Cary?

@@stevenunyabidness No, he was from FRG. Justin Glassmeyer.

@stevenunyabidness7803 I know the family who runs that chinese place, grew up alongside their kids. Good people.

still a bad driver to leave the back of her bus sitting across train tracks.

She was a bad driver the light turned green and she didn't go. If she had just ignored the loud kids they would have lived instead she was like "durrr why are they screaming while next to train tracks?" and refused to move

@@Moonsprecher yep seems like something only a silly woman would do. I can't imagine a man being this stupid.

Part and parcel of third world country level of infrastructure

@@erik_dk842 I hate to agree but sadly it's true.