A Simple Way to Learn Complex Skills

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A Simple Way to Learn Complex Skills

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Sometimes we have to learn very complex skills that can't be broken apart into more basic skills. What do we do then?
0:00 An intro to the experiment
0:21 Skills with many interdependent parts
1:00 The study that explored learning complex skills
2:33 The results
3:48 Try it out
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*There was a wrinkle to this study that I didn't mention, which is that groups 2, 3, and 4 all had a different kind of display on the game for the first six sessions, which gave them slightly different information than the standard game. The idea was to support learner's focus on part of the game, but it also meant that there's more than one difference between the control and the other groups. The enhanced display could explain some of the difference between the control group and the other groups, but doesn't explain the differences between groups 2 and 3 and group 4. And the variable-priority approach (what I call rotating focus) that the study helped establish is well-supported by other studies as well - see the meta-analysis in the reference section for more support.
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REFERENCES
This video is based on the paper below. I replicated their figure 2 starting at around 2:40. Gopher, D., Weil, M., & Siegel, D. (1989). Practice under changing priorities: An approach to the training of complex skills. Acta Psychologica, 71(1-3), 147-177. doi.org/10.101...
Here is a meta-analysis illustrating the efficacy of what I call "rotating focus" but what is called "variable-priority" training in the literature. Wickens, C. D., Hutchins, S., Carolan, T., & Cumming, J. (2013). Effectiveness of Part-Task Training and Increasing-Difficulty Training Strategies: A Meta-Analysis Approach. Human Factors, 55(2), 461-470. doi.org/10.117...
And if you search more articles from Daniel Gopher, you will see other works on the same theme. Like this one: Brickner, M., & Gopher, D. (1981). Improving Time-Sharing Performance by Enhancing Voluntary Control on Processing Resources. TECHNION-ISRAEL INST OF TECH HAIFA CENTER OF HUMAN ENGINEERING AND INDUSTRIAL SAFETY RESEARCH. apps.dtic.mil/...

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@darby3762 5 ай бұрын

Cuts to the chase, no annoying intro, no weird picture of the content creator wearing a weird facial expression, no overly enthusiastic style of delivery trying to get you to feel excited and amped up but only serve to exhaust you, simple presentation that works, no annoying music. Seriously, so many have become slaves to the algorithm trends. This is a breath of fresh air.

@NewLife2028 5 ай бұрын

Yeah, and he's HOT, too!

@forhadrh 5 ай бұрын

Agree 💖💖

@Dani4You-mw9md 4 ай бұрын

@@NewLife2028 why?? why??

@ishrakmujibift4269 2 ай бұрын

Well, you will not be able to reach a wider audience without that. Nevertheless, I would assume it would be nice to have an audience that is inherently curious about learning, rather than someone who just wants some short tips and tricks because they have to cram for an exam.

@amichayr3418 9 ай бұрын

This is such a simple and almost obvious method. I am surprised everyone goes through high school and sometimes colleges and universities without even being exposed to content like this. You are a life saver for anyone who enjoys learning!

@romulobr 9 ай бұрын

This is called fundamentals, any course on anything starts with that, and yes the reason “people aren’t told this” is because it is literally obvious. Anyone who is trying to learn or teach anything knows that, what are the basics or fundamentals for the skills, focus on that and everything else will become easier.

@CapeSkill 9 ай бұрын

@@romulobr no it's not obvious at all, especially not middle school, high school.

@romulino 9 ай бұрын

I don't know, maybe it should be. That's how every curriculum is designed, you start with the fundamentals otherwise it becomes impossible to learn. That's why we have to do so many math exercises since the beginning of our learning journey, if you don't focus on those and stick with them, you just can't learn anything more advanced, ever. That applies for every skill, you can't write proper sentences if you didn't focus on grammar basics, and so on and so on. @@CapeSkill

@d.dimitrov8972 8 ай бұрын

@@romulobr seems like you are an expert on learning and have some tacit knowledge on the subject, but for some of us such information is not so obvious so when someone points it out to us like Benjamin does it really helps

@swagcat51 Ай бұрын

@@romulobrthis approach is common sense in a learning environment such as school but in real life contexts such as video games nah.

@earthspeed 9 ай бұрын

Basic Steps: Focus on Specific Aspects: When learning complex skills, break them down into specific aspects that can be practiced individually. Sequential Attention: Instead of trying to master everything at once, focus on one aspect at a time and practice it thoroughly. Switch Attention: After dedicating time to one aspect, switch your focus to another. Continue this process, alternating between different aspects. Integration: After practicing each aspect individually, return to the original aspect and integrate all the learned components. Key Points: Complex Skills: Some skills can be broken down into discrete steps for practice, while others involve interdependent parts that can't be practiced separately. Attention Matters: Changing what you focus on is a powerful way to learn complex skills effectively. It's crucial to pay attention to the right aspects at the right time. Creating Building Blocks: Focusing on one aspect helps the brain create meaningful building blocks for more complex skills. Sequential Attention Yields Better Learning: Alternating attention between different aspects of a skill over time is more effective than trying to focus on everything at once. Continued Learning Gains: Even after switching to normal practice, the group that sequentially paid attention to two aspects continued to outperform others. Generalization to Other Contexts: This approach has been replicated in various contexts, indicating its broad applicability. Focused Attention: Focusing on specific aspects allows learners to build the necessary pieces and integrate them effectively over time. Overall, the key takeaway is that by dividing complex skills into manageable components and systematically focusing on each aspect, you can improve your learning and performance in a more efficient and effective way.

@slstudio2591 9 ай бұрын

Key takeaways for video: Complex Skills Require Attention to Interdependent Parts: - Some skills, like brewing tea, can be broken down into discrete steps. - However, many skills, such as playing Starcraft, involve interdependent parts that can't be practiced separately. Changing What You Pay Attention to Matters: - The video highlights a study involving the video game Space Fortress to illustrate this point. - Learners were divided into four groups, each focusing on different aspects of the game. Attention Creates Building Blocks: - The study revealed that those who focused on one aspect of the game initially performed better. - Paying attention to one aspect helps the brain create meaningful building blocks for the skill. Sequential Attention Yields Better Learning: - The recommended method is to pay attention to one aspect of the skill for a period, then switch to another aspect, and repeat. - This sequential approach is more effective than trying to pay equal attention to everything at once. Continued Learning Gains: - The group that sequentially paid attention to two aspects continued to outperform the others even after switching to normal gameplay. Generalization to Other Contexts: - The finding has been replicated in various other contexts, suggesting its broad applicability. Benefits of Focused Attention: - Focusing on one aspect at a time allows learners to build the necessary pieces and integrate them effectively over time.

@frezzingaces 10 ай бұрын

The key thing in the study was they were telling the groups what were the most impactful parts of the game up front, instead of the control who had to figure out themselves over time. This is why coaching is so good to learn skills - being told what's important to focus on is key. I wonder if this same approach could be replicated in learning new skills where it's unknown what are the important factors.

@daczito 9 ай бұрын

Interesting thought!

@agustinbjr 9 ай бұрын

If there’s a task where the important factors are unknown, then I don’t think it can be replicated. Knowing what’s the most important to focus on (normally fundamentals) is crucial

@IdeaAgeConsulting 9 ай бұрын

This is a great point. I think for the most part, even new areas can be decoded with some thought and some outreach to others in the same domain. Once key areas have been decoded, the insight from above could probably be applied to great results.

@raybod1775 9 ай бұрын

I believe it will become obvious after time examining whatever skill we want to learn and ask “What is critically important to do what I want? How can I do this skill badly, but still do it?” It’s possible to figure out anything over time by going back and ask yourself “Okay, I’m not good enough, what am I most bad at and what can I do to improve myself?” It’s always better to find good mentors, coaches or classes in learning skills, but not always possible.

@frezzingaces 9 ай бұрын

@@raybod1775 Yeah, reflection. That’s why serious gamers do vod reviews, like the rewatch their own games with a more critical eye, instead of just playing endlessly.

@kallenijs 9 ай бұрын

This makes sense for most physical sports: you need to use you whole body and pay attention to a million different things, but by focusing on a single small aspect each session, you can improve steadily, even if you are still terrible in most aspects.

@lazygardens 9 ай бұрын

It also works for non-physical activities. Editing, for example is a complex task where any edit affects everything else, but if you want to teach someone to edit you have to focus them on one component until they grasp it. Because Everywhere, All at Once is too much.

@Ojalalluevapronto Жыл бұрын

It's incredible how this apply for every subject, I use to play chess online just for fun without seen any improvement for years, then i started paying attention to not go into suspicious forcing tactics, then paying attention to play standard moves until the opponent make some weak move and profit, then to play the most confortable moves for me when i'm winning and not necessary the absolute best, and i started getting a little bit better.

@JasonMitchellofcompsci 9 ай бұрын

This works for language too. Nearly all learning software doesn't work because it wants to reward you with forming sentences right away. But if you were to just hard memorize nouns for a month, and then hard memorize verbs for a month, you are going to be understanding enough in the sentences you hear to start noticing grammar patterns on your own. Add a little book learning to aid and it isn't too bad.

@HOWARD963_ 9 ай бұрын

Have you ever tried the etymology of every noun or verb?

@JasonMitchellofcompsci 9 ай бұрын

@@HOWARD963_ I'm not saying to memorize every noun or verb. I'm saying that memorizing single words is a very easy task. And after two months of drilling them you will understand enough that the rest of learning a language will come pretty easily. You will be guarenteed to recognize something from nearly every sentence you hear. Some people study a language for a year and still fail.

@Anxiou5Panda 9 ай бұрын

I agree with you. I am not trying to actively learn Japanese because I am not yet paying close attention to it, but by constantly watching anime, the most common terms, expressions, or greetings gets drilled to your brain you'll start to recognize patterns or can somewhat understand what a character or an actual person is saying. Of course it's not 100% precise nor accurate but that's because as I've said, I am not yet deep diving into it. So hypothetically, if I do, with this method, I might learn to speak reasonably well in a year.

@ytpah9823 10 ай бұрын

🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:00 ☕ Some skills, like brewing tea, can be broken down into discrete steps for practice, while others, like playing Starcraft, involve multiple interdependent parts. 00:52 🎮 For complex skills, changing what you focus on can be a powerful way to learn, as demonstrated by a study on the video game "Space Fortress." 01:18 📋 Researchers divided learners into groups and gave them different focal instructions for practice sessions, emphasizing different parts of the game. 02:15 👀 Groups given specific aspects to pay attention to during practice scored higher than the control group which didn't have any particular focus. 03:14 🧠 This method, focusing on specific aspects, helps our brain create building blocks for more complex skills. 03:39 🔄 For mastering interdependent skills, one can focus on different aspects sequentially and then revisit them, leading to enhanced learning. 04:08 🔍 Directing attention to certain aspects rather than juggling everything at once can lead to greater learning gains.

@Erick-no8zn 9 ай бұрын

@AEGIS-RED-MEGA-VIEWS 9 ай бұрын

divide and..

@abdirahmandama3266 9 ай бұрын

@@AEGIS-RED-MEGA-VIEWS multiply?

@bonaface 9 ай бұрын

ok do his work for him. the real lesson is how to pay attention to this video! Zzzzzzz bring a pillow cuz it is napping time.

@szymonbaranowski8184 9 ай бұрын

bro it's 4 minutes video you need to have a hardcore ADHD to need timestamps here better contribute on 2h videos of Huberman podcast 😂

@batlin Жыл бұрын

I really like this idea. I think you've touched on this in another video, but one thing to be wary of is to not get too bogged down at the mechanistic level. The Perception and Action podcast discussed an interesting study that wanted to determine whether you should start with a very easy task and gradually make it more difficult, or start with a very difficult task and gradually make it easier. I think they were learning to throw darts or something. It turned out that the first method was much better, where subjects stood very close to the target so that the shot would succeed like 90% of the time, then increase the distance as long as accuracy didn't start to drop too far. Their theory was that starting with a really difficult task caused people to spend a lot of their time hypothesising about what was going wrong, which hampered or prevented implicit learning processes. In the scenario starting with unmissable shots, they didn't bother consciously reasoning so much and implicit learning was able to take place unhindered. I suspect this is one reason why children learn complex skills depending heavily on procedural and motor memory -- like music or languages -- more easily than adults. Of course they have an advantage in having much better access to neuroplasticity (even if they don't care about the topic), but they're also more likely to just enjoy _doing_ the skill and paying curious but relaxed attention to the output, rather than focusing so much on internal mechanistic factors. I remember as an adult trying to improve at snooker, constantly asking "is my elbow sticking out too much? Am I twisting my wrist during the shot? Is my leg in the wrong place or not bent enough, or too much? Stance too wide?". Of course, another benefit kids get is that they tend to play around with the parameters more, automatically allowing them to explore more of the action space, where adults tend to want to rigorously perform "correctly".

@benjaminkeep Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the thoughtful comment! Some of what you talk about here is also related to internal vs external focus. Generally speaking, with motor skills, external focus results in more efficient learning.

@sohgesu813 Жыл бұрын

nice and insightful comment, would you mind sharing the link to the exact perception and action podcast you cited? I also listen to it as well. Have a great day!

@batlin Жыл бұрын

@@sohgesu813 hi, the episode I was thinking of is 410 - Combined Effects of Variability and Errors in Practice Design. Specifically the discussion of "errorless vs errorful practice" about 5:40 into the recording.

@Gameboob 11 ай бұрын

@@batlinthanks for mentioning that podcast! Looks very informative!!

@StillAliveAndKicking_ 9 ай бұрын

I’ve watched kids learn skating and ice hockey, and they do so much faster than adults. One key reason is less fear, with less risk. If a child falls while skating, they feel much less pain. This is because they are smaller and lighter. Similarly a beetle can fall several feet, and walk off as if nothing had happened. However beetles don’t skate well. With language kids don’t worry about mistakes, whereas adults are self conscious, and will usually be corrected by native speakers.

@30Phani Жыл бұрын

If you wrote a book on learning i would buy it. Keep making these videos.Thank you!

@benjaminkeep Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the kind words! I do have some book ideas, but am trying to grow my online presence first, which makes it easier to pitch book proposals. : )

@lamp2208 Жыл бұрын

@@benjaminkeep im curious, is your PhD free to view online?

@benjaminkeep Жыл бұрын

searchworks.stanford.edu/view/12663695. It's on learning problem solving in a complex scientific domain. Doesn't make for great reading. 😅

@tullochgorum6323 Жыл бұрын

@@benjaminkeep Sadly your following in this excellent channel is far more modest than it deserves. I don't know how the KZfaq algo prioritises content, but quality doesn't seem to be much of a factor. It's depressing how many of the popular channels on learning how to learn give some pretty iffy advice. Endless content on flashcards, for example, which are a woeful approach to learning any complex topic...

@lucienkennedy1997 Жыл бұрын

I’d buy it too

@pockster2854 8 күн бұрын

StarCraft mentioned?!?!? I discovered your channel about two weeks ago and I cannot express how helpful it has already been, especially in the self-confidence department. I am going to university in my late 20s for the first time and I never really "learned how to learn". I always felt that I was not capable enough. Which was true but not for the reasons I thought I was! Thank you for providing so many people with these great tools and new perspectives on learning and more. I truly am grateful!

@ericm9495 Жыл бұрын

I love how you mentioned starcraft at the beginning because I remember learning this exact concept from jakatak, who is a starcraft content creator that emphasizes exactly this. Break up a task into simpler bits, practice those, then put them all together.

@zardecil9419 10 ай бұрын

Jakatak is off making an RTS now. How time flies.

@lapatria100 Жыл бұрын

Great video. I notice this with calculus, personally. I generally practice solving a multitude of problems without stressing too much about understanding. Eventually, i dive deeper into trying to understand the significance of these problems while at the same time practicing some problems make the connection. So: 1. Doing then 2. Understanding Then 1+2

@thatskums 8 ай бұрын

You give the best advice ever. No other channel is as scientific and as detailed as yours is! Thank you for all your efforts

@DarrenMcStravick Жыл бұрын

This is just like iterative systems development methodologies. Build a little bit of each part of a system in sequence connecting each part together, then go back through another iteration to build on and/or revise the parts you initially worked on. Repeat this process until the complete system has been developed, test it and once tests are successful and confirmation is received, implement it. Really wicked stuff! -- You're helping me connect my learning material with both my learning method and my background knowledge!

@baconrocksable Ай бұрын

this is true this is how i learned to drive staying in my line, making sure my turns weren't too wide, lane changes, maintaining speed, looking out for people around you all of this was overwhelming at once but when I focused on one skill or aspect at a time it became much easier to just drive :)

@AEGIS-RED-MEGA-VIEWS 9 ай бұрын

divide and conquer u say? I don't know how many of us remember how we learned to use pc or phone, but we didn't went "oh, let's go learn use this device", but we rather just went exploring, doing meaningless things. That's a great way to learn and master things. By just exploring without expecting anything in return (or not much). Good vid

@centrumsaiyan7623 9 ай бұрын

I have learnt a similar technique in 'Learn to learn' from coursera. It works wonderful. In just 3 months I was able to learn boxing, drumming, complex coding, and pass german language. The idea is to use active and passive learning technique. Apparently your brain by default does the passive learning. All you gotta do is switch between each skills after a session(active) and let the brain learn the pattern over the skills you are trying to master(passive). Correct me if I'm wrong, I am always willing to learn.

@akagordon 9 ай бұрын

If you've ever wondered how a drummer does a drum roll, or plays complex sticking across an entire drum kit, it's the same thing. They practice slowly, and analytically, focusing on one limb at a time.

@Rinzlov 10 ай бұрын

Did you look into proffesional starcraft training forums? 😄The literally have separate training maps and mods to train separately the resources, building, expansions, scouting etc, and then they have training resources that start combining these things.

@profet1385 9 ай бұрын

That's my spot as well

@rashedulkabir6227 2 ай бұрын

When you combine you will have to pay attention to all aspects at the same time ?

@Rinzlov 2 ай бұрын

@@rashedulkabir6227 Yeah, but contrary to this video the skills can actually be taken apart and trained separately. And for professional players it's a must. And you only move to combining them once you get really good at each of them separately.

@energyeve2152 9 ай бұрын

I’ve learned this most recently in my playing basketball and also playing overwatch. I started focusing on certain aspects of my game and I saw huge improvements

@allanroy7853 9 ай бұрын

I used a similar trick in college, Your brain has to process information as “new” 3 times within 4 hours to log it in permanent memory, so learn something, jump to a different topic, back to the fist, then something new/different again then the first, this is why pointless random factoids can stay with you forever, it all depends on the intervals you think about them at.

@TangentMoon 9 ай бұрын

It's funny, I just stumbled upon this idea myself when trying to teach myself music composition and production. Before, I was just starting with a blank page, and trying to learn all at once in every project. Recently I've been consciously breaking up the skills in each session: writing a theme, orchestrating, sound design, arrangement, mixing mastering etc. And while it still looks like I am doing the same thing, as in the game example, I have found it mentally much easier to have a clear focus on what exactly I am going to do each time I sit down to try and create music.

@CaptainWumbo Жыл бұрын

I think it's largely about what is signal vs what is noise. Having important aspects pointed out to you helps you build intuition for what's important. But you could just as well sabotage learning and performance by asking people to focus on something unimportant early on, say conjugations for verbs in a language learning class for people with a vocabulary under 5000 words. The right thing at the right time is very important to outcomes, and with no guidance whatsoever you may focus on something so marginal it does not help you almost at all. To take StarCraft as example, many people focused too heavily on micro when their results would improve much faster if they knew how to grow their economy and make more stuff.

@benjaminkeep Жыл бұрын

100% agreed. This comes back to the difficulty of learning on your own and the value that instructors provide. What I present in the video is a simple, but basic approach. There are many ways of structuring "part-whole" practice in complex tasks that can be more effective, especially when designed by a teacher or coach.

@harmez7 9 ай бұрын

you didnt waste your view's time by someting like an into or BS talk and went straight to the talk, RESPECT.

@TheRitesh41 9 ай бұрын

This is something i unknowingly employed in all areas of my life. its simply understanding you can only focus on one thing at a time and yes it will mean focus on one will result in neglected areas being lackluster but over time they too can be focused upon.

@pierrotlasticot5848 5 ай бұрын

that's what my singing teacher had me doing for years, and it works great. the voice is a complex system, involving way more parts than you can imagine, and most of these parts are interdependent and hard to isolate. focusing on just 1 or 2 things for the next couple of sessions while the whole mechanisms works has been very helpful in overall progressing

@danielphil80 9 ай бұрын

If the game is life, this principle still applies. Those more knowledgeable or skillful about the world tend to move faster than their counterparts. The most successful people tend to read things very unrelated to their main jobs.

@je4a301 5 ай бұрын

Rarely do I see videos with so much value delivered in a comprehensive manner within such a short video

@alexcaminiti 9 ай бұрын

After 20 years of engineering/mixing and building different iterations of my recording studios, I set out to build my own hardware recording system. Integrating myriad components from existing systems. I realized that this is what I was doing throughout the past 20 years, and when it came to designing my system, I had ChatGPT, and then GPT-4 to help me understand things i'd never have been able to do on my own. It was like my own personal assistant helping me execute a method of learning and system design that I knew on a deep level. What I have been able to accomplish in a year would have taken 5. It's really cool to see this video and know that there is a method I have been using my whole life. Thanks for making this.

@Super21Nash 9 ай бұрын

love how short this video is. Not a lot of time was spent on the build up, message was actually something novel for me, and the message was simple. loved it.

@vijaygopal9557 3 ай бұрын

This is such a helpful video and was just what I was looking for - Its simple, to the point, uncluttered, research-backed and so applicable. Like another subscriber has commented - you’re a gift to all those who want to better their learning skills. Thank you for the work you do

@briankim7442 6 ай бұрын

Its exactly like in starcraft and chess. Most of the times they recomment you to choose and practise openings only for x amount of times. They set you for a solid base to then practise mid-game tactics, which eventually set you up for end-games.1 step at a time, repeated for thousands of times! Really glad this video appeared on my recommended feed! And really glad that I clicked it! Hopefully this news is encouraging. Definitely you deserve many more subs as many have already said. Remember me when you blow up!

@fahadus 9 ай бұрын

This feels like a great tie in for that famous Bruce Lee quote: "I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practiced one kick 10,000 times." Someone with more skill at a certain aspect should be overall better than someone who's just winging it entirely.

@norliegh 9 ай бұрын

this has been goto journey since last 2 years. it's much much beneficial. i quit as soon as i loose interest sometimes for days weeks or months but i also remember to return & complete another chunk of that thing

@Hyumanity 9 ай бұрын

Differentiation and integration. Ah, the meta-principle of our universe. This was very useful, thank you.

@Lokislav 9 ай бұрын

I've noticed the same thing when playing CS:GO. Those who spent thousands of hours playing match-making only/mostly were often times no match to those who were grinding particular niches of the game, such as smoke and flash lineups, counter-strafing, prefiring, remembering angles, spawn timings, movement of your own character, predicting the other enemy's next move, practicing headshot-only deathmatches, tracking heads of moving bots on certain practice maps, the list goes on. You can much more effectively target all those necessary skills in a much shorter timespan. It was a really cool thing to witness as I grew almost exponentially while my long-term teammates were almost stagnating. One thing I was lacking at the end of it all, was nerves. Those who were playing thousands of hours match-making had a more stable stress response to certain situations than me, I could see the difference in nervousness especially in clutches (1v2, 1v1, etc.). That's something you just can't practice, but grow to with time.

@timmycorini 9 ай бұрын

very true! i run businesses, and this concept is 100% correct. even though each of the parts of running a business are interdependent, you can focus on one at a time as a manager/owner and get better at each then overall it makes the whole machine better

@Mynamewashere 9 ай бұрын

So the way to learn a skill that you can't easily brake down, is to find a way to break it down with your attention.

@bandiddums 9 ай бұрын

I was thinking that I'll be able to learn something new, but rather this video defines it in a more general and clear way of something that I've already been doing subconsciously for some things

@TheIllerX Жыл бұрын

Just found this channel and I really like the content so far. Science based, easy to follow and understand with useful advice. Far too many people with youtube channels try to put up too much of a show and exaggerate how good their content is with titles as "Boost you skill level 10000%", "You life will never be the same after listening to this" and so on.

@darby3762 5 ай бұрын

Exactly!

@Andruarte-qq6fo 9 ай бұрын

Divide and conquer that's a powerful concept with tons of application on daily basis

@ryder1658 9 ай бұрын

Analyze activity. Find 3-4 main pillars of said activity and call them skills. Spend 3 sessions focusing on a skill before moving to the next and repeating. Once all skills have been practiced, conduct an unfocused pass for 3 sessions to integrate.

@criticalbil1 10 ай бұрын

That was excellent. Genuinely insightful and practical. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

@magburner 9 ай бұрын

This is how I learn everything. I focus on the small detail, and then expand outwards.

@juancruzlives 9 ай бұрын

this is really cool. and i really like the fact that you can apply this method to basically everything: football skills, guitar playing, videogames, studying, social skills, etc., etc. thank you for the short and concise video

@gutsinpocket 8 ай бұрын

I actually didn't fully understand the concept of FOCUS before watching this video. Thanks a lot

@i_accept_all_cookies 9 ай бұрын

It's essentially the same as breaking down the task into steps, as you did in the beginning, but ignoring the interdependencies until you understand each step.

@tullochgorum6323 Жыл бұрын

The other day we had a chat about applying skill learning research to language learning. I suspect that this strategy could be useful for - say, a beginner trying to listen to native speech. This is a notoriously confusing and demoralising experience, so breaking it down might be helpful. They could start by listening for word boundaries, for example. Then they could listen for the overall shape of the intonation. Then they could try and pick out the verbs, then the nouns, and so on. Gradually, the undifferentiated mush of sound would hopefully begin to take on some meaning? I suspect that this might be particularly useful for people studying distant languages such as, say, Turkish, Korean or Mandarin for an English native.

@benjaminkeep Жыл бұрын

Interesting approach!

@andybrice2711 9 ай бұрын

Here in Britain, everyone learns to drive a stick-shift car by default. And many people fail their tests several times before getting a license. I have a hypothesis that people would pass quicker if they learned to drive an automatic car first. Because you'd have a chance to learn road positioning before you had to operate the clutch and gearbox. Likewise, I think people might pick up guitar skills more quickly if they first learned the ukulele.

@brianr2941 8 ай бұрын

I’m going to try this for jiu jitsu. My instructor just talked about how he became really proficient in certain positions and it was similar to what you are saying. He just tried one simple technique each roll session and over time became very good at hitting those techniques in future rolls.

@BaronVonScrub 9 ай бұрын

League of Legends has the common mantra to new players to simply "Pay attention to last hitting, it's enough to get you out of bronze." In theory, of course it's not. Doing it to the exclusion of all else doesn't actually let you reap the benefits. In practice, you end up with more gold and XP within each individual game, and a better understanding of wave dynamics, health representations of bars, gold splits across minions, trading patterns, etc. All of that gives you the tools to the progress and learn more specific skills in a stronger context than just firing blindly and hoping for the best.

@productivebeasthopefullyso194 6 ай бұрын

Distinguishing skills: skills you can split apart into smaller pieces: exp.making a cup of tea You can break down learning "how to brew a cup of tea" into smaller steps, which can be practiced on it's own skills you can't split apart into smaller pieces: exp. playing Warcraft You can't break the process of "learning how to play better Warcraft" into smaller pieces, which you can develope isolated. Still there are many in...

@youngsumac2363 9 ай бұрын

I’ve been doing this with language learning. I’ve been lucky to find a series of books that tackle different aspects of the language that are difficult for English speakers, and works through these aspects with exercises. What’s awesome is that the aspects are cross-referenced in each part of the series, compounding the learning effect. I recognized how promising this method seemed but wasn’t aware there is a study to confirm it. Very cool. Thanks for the video!

@marcustulliuscicero9512 9 ай бұрын

Been learning leatherworking, this is a good method for improving my skills. Thank you.

@marshallodom1388 9 ай бұрын

Unless your learning to drive, then I'd use all the mirrors all the time. I've seen people who never use the rear view, but unless you're forced to not use it like a delivery truck, I'd incorporate it into your scanning of the spacial environment around you. But as far as games go I'll try this method out for sure.

@TiffanyNg100 9 ай бұрын

Algorithm always know what I’m thinking and it’s scary how accurate my current thinking and this video answer my problem

@danielboffa7416 9 ай бұрын

interesting, feels fairly intuitive, like in learning to swim you might break it up into, kicking, arm strokes, breathing, body positioning, etc to improve

@MathAdam 9 ай бұрын

I'm gonna try this to improve my driving. For the next 4 days, I'll ignore the brakes and steering wheel. I'll report back later on my progress. Off to the freeway!

@ezraantenh2947 9 ай бұрын

I didn't feel dumb while watching this video. Thank you, sir.

@Oridan1 9 ай бұрын

I recently did this without realizing to learn age of empires 2. It's an amazing method to learning complex skills!

@unknowninfinium4353 9 ай бұрын

This is interesting. My Dad taught me this at a very early age without knowing such things existed. He took a different approach, quite simple really. All he said from the beginning was "You're a failure". It's what you would call say counter-argument. (Even if its silly). Great video.

@kavitaa4493 9 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for explaining this concept. I am currently learning new things which seem complex , but I was intuitively following this approach without realising there is a study done to back it up. It reinforced I'm on the right path. Thank u!!

@Max-tq1ig Жыл бұрын

Thanks, Benji, this is a really excellent conclusion and study! I will put it into practice, I promise!!.

@jangelbrich7056 8 ай бұрын

So the difference is between a free-and-erratic and a mentored-focused mind, but the latter is depending on a good mentor - which is hard to find. Both make progress over time, but the latter appears faster.

@faksmakinesi 9 ай бұрын

🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:00 🧩 Learning Complex Skills - Learning complex skills can be challenging when they involve interdependent parts. - Some skills, like playing Starcraft, require multiple component skills that interact with each other. - The key to practicing highly interdependent skills is changing what you pay attention to. 01:18 🎮 Space Fortress Experiment - Researchers conducted an experiment with a video game called Space Fortress to study skill development. - They divided participants into four groups with different attention instructions. - Groups that focused on specific aspects of the game showed better performance than the control group. 02:45 🌟 The Power of Attention - Paying attention to one aspect of a skill helps the brain create meaningful building blocks. - Over time, these blocks can be integrated to master the more complex skill. - Focusing on different aspects sequentially can lead to greater learning gains in complex skills. 03:39 💡 Practical Learning Strategy - When learning a complex, interdependent skill, try focusing on one aspect for a while, then shift to another. - Rotate your attention between different aspects of the skill to build a deeper understanding. - This method can lead to more effective learning compared to trying to focus on everything equally at once. Made with HARPA AI

@samoldfield9997 8 ай бұрын

bro one of the greatest youtube channels ever.

@carrycat876 9 ай бұрын

great short video. will try it for sure

@IronicCrime 6 ай бұрын

🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:00 🍵 *Some skills involve discrete steps that can be practiced separately, while others, like playing Starcraft, have interdependent components that can't be easily practiced in isolation.* 01:18 🎮 *To learn interdependent skills effectively, change what you pay attention to. An experiment with the game Space Fortress showed that focusing on specific aspects of the game led to better performance.* 02:45 🧠 *Paying attention to one aspect of a skill helps the brain create meaningful building blocks, leading to better learning gains. Group four, instructed to focus on two aspects, outperformed other groups in the long run.* 04:08 🔄 *When learning complex skills, try focusing on one aspect at a time, building pieces of the skill, and then integrating them over time for greater learning gains.* Made with HARPA AI

@okdokie278 Жыл бұрын

Excellent! This is EXACTLY the sort of content on learning science I was looking for! Super subscribed!

@Papepipucho 2 ай бұрын

So I play a lot of online games. Some games I have like 50-60 hotkeys including custom macros. Then I'd remap everything and have to learn everything again but doing it a different way - different key placements etc. I would simply clear everything and start with one. I would practice that one for a little while before adding a second. Then i would weave the two together and become more fluent in it. Then after i'd add 3, 4 etc. Putting things into practice is important, I think. I am open to change how I do things after each failure. After a session I would have memorized all the new key placements for the most part, of course it would take a little more practice to get super fluent after adding such a large amount but it didn't take very long for me. I've applied this approach to most things not just games ( i thought a game example would make more sense since the video used a game example) and I seem to retain things a lot easier doing that. Maybe its the stimuli of doing things in practice, or perhaps putting what you learned with the more complex parts that does it.

@nowonmetube 9 ай бұрын

Yeah it's what I experienced myself what should be obvious at this point: The saying goes practice makes perfect, but that doesn't mean you can't still do something for years and won't get significantly better. For instance if you "practice cooking" but you don't know what you're doing wrong, then you won't get much better at it. But if you practice cutting onions for example and practice frying, seasoning etc. all individually, then you get better quickly. ➡️ That's the reason why people suck even after playing the same game for years. They don't practice it, they do the same thing over and over.

@KhoaNguyen-qu3ic 9 ай бұрын

🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:52 🧠 To learn highly interdependent skills, change what you pay attention to. 02:45 🎯 Focusing on one aspect of a skill for a period helps create meaningful building blocks for more complex skills. 03:14 📈 Learning gains can be greater by alternating attention between different aspects of a skill over time. 01:18 🕹️ An experiment with a video game shows the impact of attention on skill development. 04:08 📚 To learn complex skills, focus on one aspect, switch to another, and then return to the original aspect for improved learning. Made with HARPA AI

@juliangamez5168 9 ай бұрын

Fantastic Dr.Keep. Many thanks for sharing the concepts.👏👏👏👏

@simeoncox8336 10 ай бұрын

I use this idea a lot, I just didn't know it. I will focus on one aspect of a skill, and if it's a game, I'll tell myself that I'm going to lose for the first few sessions, and that's okay as long as I get the one thing right. Then after awhile I'll actually try to win. But you have to accept that the other aspects of the game are going to be ignored at first. (Except, according to this study, you'd actually do better just by focusing on one thing anyway, which seems to be my experience).

@mitchellreynolds4896 9 ай бұрын

Focusing on specific aspects of a skill helps in breaking it down and learning more effectively. When confronted with a complex skill, focus on one aspect at a time before integrating them

@markkeeper7771 9 ай бұрын

🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:00 ☕ Learning Complex Skills Overview - Overview of learning complex skills with a focus on interdependent parts. - Tea brewing analogy: Skills like brewing tea involve discrete steps that can be practiced separately. - Challenge of interdependence: Many skills, like playing Starcraft, involve interdependent components that can't be practiced separately, posing a unique challenge. 00:52 🔄 Adapting Attention for Skill Practice - Adapting attention strategy: Changing what you pay attention to as a method for practicing highly interdependent skills. - Space Fortress study: Illustration of the concept using the Space Fortress video game study. - Groups and instructions: The study divided learners into groups with different attention focuses, demonstrating varying learning outcomes. 02:15 🎯 Impact of Attention on Learning - Attention-focused learning: The importance of attention in skill development becomes evident as groups focusing on specific aspects outperform the control group. - Meaningful building blocks: Paying attention to one aspect helps create meaningful building blocks for more complex skills. - Extended learning gains: The group focusing on two aspects continues to outperform others even after returning to regular practice. 03:39 🧠 Practical Application of Attention - Practical application advice: Suggestion to apply the attention strategy to learning complex, interdependent skills. - Incremental attention: The recommendation to focus on one aspect for a while, then shift attention to another aspect, and repeat. - Expected learning gains: The proposition that this method may lead to greater learning gains compared to trying to pay attention to everything equally at once. Made with HARPA AI

@bestopinion9257 9 ай бұрын

Divide and conquer, repeat and don't forget, build upon that.

@Zhouri 9 ай бұрын

Any leetcoders here ?

@Darkness-rs9sp 10 ай бұрын

Thank you, bud. Recently started playing CS2 as a hobby but I wanted to get better. Will try this tip, appreciate it.

@UberOcelot 10 ай бұрын

Since getting back into CS with CS2, this concept has been on my mind. I find myself getting better with small little details incrementally, but my overall ability influences how well I can experience all this small skills. I can put some of them together and any moment, and over time it slowly becomes second nature.

@AEGIS-RED-MEGA-VIEWS 9 ай бұрын

counter strike 2,lol?

@evermorecurious91 8 ай бұрын

Simple yet powerful! Good illustration.

@aaronag7876 8 ай бұрын

In the UK, Space fortress was called - Tempest and was on the Atari.

@akhilbisht798 Жыл бұрын

Such a great advice. I will try this on coding. There are so much part involved that are interconnected in it like databases buisness logic, deployment, ci cd and all other thing i will now try to focus on one single part of it at a time

@Agent56000 10 ай бұрын

Any update ? Did it help

@AEGIS-RED-MEGA-VIEWS 9 ай бұрын

@@Agent56000 learning coding takes so much time. we need to explore what we can do and then build with what we know. unless gpt is our friend

@_Itachi_240_ 4 ай бұрын

This video is packed with great takeaways! While taking notes helps, sometimes an automated summary would be great for active learning. Any recommendations?

@binarymirror8534 9 ай бұрын

It's neat to see how you describe the method I've been using for years.

@ReflectionOcean 10 ай бұрын

Break complex skills into smaller, interdependent parts for more focused practice. 0:00 Practice discrete steps of a skill separately before combining them. 0:05 Focus successively on different aspects of a skill during initial practice sessions. 1:40 Shift your attention to another key aspect of the skill after a set period to build complementary skills. 2:05 Integrate practiced components over time for comprehensive skill development. 3:45 Revisit previously focused aspects to reinforce and combine skill components. 4:02 Explore how attention influences learning for further insights into skill development. 4:17

@AEGIS-RED-MEGA-VIEWS 9 ай бұрын

or 2 if u are like me and get bored fast

@orionred2489 10 ай бұрын

If I may... I think the difficulty for doing this is knowing that you're going to short-change the OTHER aspects of the skill and being OK with that as an investment. As in, I'm going to get poor scores on this round of games because I'm going to solely concentrate on how my shots drop in this sniper game. So the NPCs will sneak up on me more, and I might get killed more, but that's OK for now.

@raybod1775 9 ай бұрын

Great attitude! Good enough for now, do better next time.

@inkbythebarrelandpaperbyth6905 9 ай бұрын

Most useful video on KZfaq

@marshallworthington6780 9 ай бұрын

Makes so much sense. Thank you, Benjamin.

@ROBERUSAN 9 ай бұрын

This is completly useful information for learning more conciously, thanks a lot.

@elijahlair 8 ай бұрын

very insightful.Thanks

@marshallmykietyshyn4973 10 ай бұрын

Actually noticed this playing sports as well. Focusing on one skill for a few weeks until I noticed progress, then switching to a new skill produced much more noticeable results than trying to work on everything all the time. Didn't realize there was evidence backing this though.

@greenjupiter 9 ай бұрын

Happy to find your channel ❤❤❤❤❤

@ykanama 9 ай бұрын

Thanks man! Will experiment on this. Might help with my review:)

@niheltouil7513 8 ай бұрын

This is a valuable piece of advice. Will definitely be using it !

@JacopoSkydweller 9 ай бұрын

This is helpful, I am a Mech E and have ADHD and often gravitate to complex things/game/systems/projects because they have a lot of different things interacting which is interesting and keeps me engaged. But it's often difficult to break in and learn these things, because of interconnected systems. There are a few instances that I have done this naturally because it was overwhelming, but now that my attention has been drawn to it, I think it will be easier in the future.

@NuclearMex 9 ай бұрын

Either tis solely the two of us or most Mechanical Engineering students suffer from this.

@JacopoSkydweller 9 ай бұрын

A good handful of my engineering buddies who are now post college, have way to many hobbies and got diagnosed later in life. Definitely not just us. I REALLY struggled with getting homework done until I started body doubling for stuff. You got this guy! HealthyGamer youtube channel has been very helpful in learning about ADHD and how to deal with it. @@NuclearMex

@codingprogramming3828 9 ай бұрын

Hey man ! U just made my day . Love u bro . Thank u a million .

@cobalius 9 ай бұрын

well there comes the power of reviews, meta-planning and micro unit testing. You could actually set up the smallest complex scenario to learn a micro unit skill. In chess that would be through mixed tactical riddles with varying but increasing difficulties, where you would have to find an effective way of decision-making before going on to reason through to an answer for a more specific tactic kind. Then there're meta-plans for moba games for example, where you learn to become better at deciding when strategic changes need to be made and to which strageties.. that's then usually the topic within team reviews of the gameplay, because individually you may lack the vision for your play /craft / etc. This thought pattern can fit anywhere, coding, social relationships, it's an abstract method. And the skill rotation aspect you're mentioned is just the icing on the cake.. And ADHDpedia has suggested that aim even some years ago already, so skill rotation is a high-value skill-learning aspect, because ADHD people generally care about efficiency, afaik.