A Swing and a Long-Range Miss | Semovente M43 da 149/40

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Prior to and during the Second World War, the Italian industry generally lacked the capacity to fulfill all the military demands placed upon it. This was probably most obvious in regard to producing modern armored fighting vehicles. Italian armored formations mostly consisted of obsolete light and medium tanks, which were no match for Allied armor. The Italians, on the other hand, achieved success with a series of self-propelled guns, the Semoventi (self-propelled vehicles), which proved to be quite effective, but they were not without some issues. Their development would finally lead to the creation of the mysterious and poorly documented Semovente M43 da 149/40.
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@PaperThinArmor Жыл бұрын

Italian self propelled guns are underrated. The reputations of their tanks overshadow them

@cosmoray9750 9 ай бұрын

Some channel were calling the semoventi as the pasta stugs.

@jon-paulfilkins7820 Жыл бұрын

In 1940, that 47mm was pretty top tier for tank mounted guns, the problem was that they were forced to use it in 1942/43 when they were up against the next generation of allied kit. I should imagine it travelled with 2 trucks and 12 crew, 2 in the Semovente, 2 driving the ammo truck and the rest in their own truck. I'd expect that part of the complement would have been an AA machinegun.

@truetoffee8684 Жыл бұрын

Wasn't the 47mm gun an Austrian design called the Bowler gun?

@mondriaa Жыл бұрын

@@truetoffee8684 correct but it was Böhler

@truetoffee8684 Жыл бұрын

@@mondriaa auto correct!!!

@chost-059 Жыл бұрын

Yeah the gun was very top dog at the time of introduction, along with the french 47mm being some of the best

@mnk9073 Жыл бұрын

The Italian Army was truly and in every way the Dreamcast of WW2, modern and groundbreaking for a brief sweet moment in time; only to get body slammed by the next generation that took a single massive leap in technology.

@jeremy9416 Жыл бұрын

Hey wargaming, that's an Italian tank, you don't need to put fake tanks in the game anymore

@ianlarge9016 Жыл бұрын

They won't be interested, because it's an artillery system. Most War of Tanks players don't like artillery, because they don't realise how effective it is.

@Jreth Жыл бұрын

Said by no WoT dev ,ever.

@merafirewing6591 Жыл бұрын

@@ianlarge9016 I bet War Thunder would.

@thelogicmatrix Жыл бұрын

@@ianlarge9016 if you think weegee doesn't want to sell you something because the players don't want it, you'll be in for a bad time ._.

@jackass6257 Жыл бұрын

Bruh arty gang for life I love italy

@ottovonbismarck2443 Жыл бұрын

The Italian 47mm tank gun could deal with any British tank except for Mathilda. It wasn't that big of an issue because Mathilda usually broke down before reaching the battlefield.

@mladenmatosevic4591 Жыл бұрын

From profile it looks like smaller version of Soviet 203mm gun "Pion". Otherwise Germans had 150mm self propelled howitzers "Brummbar" and probably did not look for even bigger and heavier Italian weapon.

@mondriaa Жыл бұрын

the Brummbar had different role and the gun a shorter range, this is more like the Hummel

@mladenmatosevic4591 Жыл бұрын

@@mondriaa Thanks, you are correct.

@cosmoray9750 9 ай бұрын

Existential conflict with Brian on the Duran.. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jt1pedKFusvGYYU.html 🤔

@stephenbrand5661 10 ай бұрын

That obsolete suspension is actually the same sort of volute spring suspension that Shermans and other American tracked vehicles of the conflict had.

@Absaalookemensch Жыл бұрын

I recently built a resin kit of the Semovente da 90/53. The hull is over extended with the 90 mm gun. This gun would be completely overpowering for the frame.

@unclemjer Жыл бұрын

Gaijin and Wargaming taking notes for their next premium vehicle.

@penzorphallos3199 Жыл бұрын

Probably a better idea than adding another Soviet object 12345 from secret documents they found in Putin's dumpsters

@mylesdobinson1534 Жыл бұрын

The M107 175mm spg looks very similar and it's stat's pretty close as well🤔

@vincentseng Жыл бұрын

nah more closer to russian spa like 2s7 pion

@RollingThunderModels Жыл бұрын

Could you do the T-150 heavy tank some time?

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@pavelalexe9254 Жыл бұрын

We have an article on it but no video

@nikoniko9121 Жыл бұрын

They have an article on the tank.

@jamesedwardladislazerrudo1378 Жыл бұрын

It's quite rare to mention Philippines like GKN Simba usually British made APC or such rare Philippine made vehicles and APC.

@TanksEncyclopediaYT Жыл бұрын

@shaider1982 Жыл бұрын

MX10 Barako (male hog) and MX8 Kalakian (male water buffalo) were intersting but ultimately just prototypes. If I remember correctly, I read n a MaxDefense post that these were a general's pet project that did not progress.

@jamesedwardladislazerrudo1378 Жыл бұрын

@@shaider1982 I cannot blame bureaucracy for this project same as Kalakian project

@parrot849 Жыл бұрын

I’m trying to imagine what 1970’s pencil pushing U.S. Army administrative boob associated with the Fort Sill Artillery Museum was thinking when he decided to have the irreplaceable tracks taken off this historic World War Two Fighting TRACKED Vehicle thereby promptly and permanently losing them for all time 🙄.

@tempest411 11 ай бұрын

I wonder if those tracks are still coiled up on pallets in a warehouse somewhere to this very day.

@Cheduepallottole Жыл бұрын

Nice video. This self propelled gun had a smaller border, with 90mm cannon who was efficiently used by Italy in Russia, North Africa and Sicily.

@hungryhedgehog4201 Жыл бұрын

out of all the game to take footage from it's RUSE? I guess it's ass obscure now as the tank.

@TanksEncyclopediaYT Жыл бұрын

For the life of us, we couldn't find a game with this thing in it!

@hungryhedgehog4201 Жыл бұрын

@@TanksEncyclopediaYT yeah I've noticed, wild

@dynamo8846 Жыл бұрын

@@TanksEncyclopediaYT Pretty sure HOI4 has this as a model for Italy in the axis armor pack dlc. Always thought it looked super wack but super intriguing

@TanksEncyclopediaYT Жыл бұрын

@@dynamo8846 Not exactly the kind of game we can use for background footage though, right?

@jakoverslept3096 Жыл бұрын

Bro I loved RUSE back in the day lol. I can't believe it!!!

@timothywood4402 10 ай бұрын

Awesome war time footage ! Super job all way round guys.

@leonardofigueroa1846 Жыл бұрын

Could you do a video on the M48 Patton with a Leopard 2 turret?

@Darth_Barnaby Жыл бұрын

A what with a what now? Edit: Im now pretty sure that that wasnt a real thing, only for transporting the turret

@oliverherald8378 Жыл бұрын

A what?

@Shotty262 11 ай бұрын

I saw this thing at APG when I was 11 years old. So cool.

@Wolfen443 Жыл бұрын

What a surprise, the Italians actually built something that actually could have helped in the war after all, but too late like the Germans.

@ayom3523 Жыл бұрын

Italy go Plunk Plunk

@i-a-g-r-e-e-----f-----jo--b 11 ай бұрын

When I play the Axis side in North Africa in the PS1 game Panzer General, I would play around with buying a crap load of the 75mm tanks for next to nothing (11 units like the price of a Panzer I). Thanks for the video.

@WildBillCox13 11 ай бұрын

Photographed this vehicle in color at APG back in he early '90s, I think. Got a nice product shot 3/4 front view.

@HeinzGuderian_ Жыл бұрын

Biggest problem for Italy was lack of face hardening their armour. The designs were good in most cases.

@jimjones1130 3 ай бұрын

Lol no

@HeinzGuderian_ 3 ай бұрын

@@jimjones1130 the Germans didn't seem to think they were bad. They copied some (TDs) and kept the ones they captured after Italy switched sides. Early war Italian tanks were better than the British stuff in the desert. They fell behind in late 1942. For what the Italian tanks were designed for (mountains) they were very good all the way through.

@napalmholocaust9093 Жыл бұрын

Hell of a name 😃 That's why they just yelled "incoming" when it made rain, not enough time to say it proper.

@LuigianoMariano Жыл бұрын

Semovente M43: Why you break my legs, AMERICA??

@johnelliott7375 Жыл бұрын

I would say yes because the suspension was obsolete by the beginning of the war so it would have been natural for a upgrade along with the gun being a modernized WW1 piece. A new design that had better protection, mobility and speed would be a great start along with a quicker firing rate.

@sinarius3669 Жыл бұрын

Order one these bad boys at starbucks

@domenicozagari2443 Жыл бұрын

My grandfather was a member crew of the towed cannon.

@Studio_Wahnsinn Жыл бұрын

At 11:59min, what tank is between the Möbelwagen and the Nashorn ? Doesn´t look like a Hummel or Heuschrecke. Looks like a 10.5 on a Pz3/4 chassis.

@agn855 7 ай бұрын

Probably this one… de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzerhaubitze_Wespe Check out this list for *Selbstfahrlafette* … de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_von_Kettenfahrzeugen_der_Wehrmacht#Panzerartillerie

@gavinjenkins899 8 ай бұрын

Semovent...acion intensifies

@alm5992 Жыл бұрын

0:49 That name! You must be Italian to be able to say that.

@chrisca 9 ай бұрын

Soooo... the italian version of the self propelled 155mm Long Tom...

@dog-bk3ub Жыл бұрын

From what game is the footage at 2:13

@louisecairney5068 Жыл бұрын

I could see that in a wot blitzs game but obviously as a competitor to the Grille 15.

@runninginthe40s61 Жыл бұрын

This big boy could be fire without the rear support in a chaotic situation? Like if a enemy tank appears in his front

@lucius6667 10 ай бұрын

makes u wonder they was using engines modified chassis and armament already available and at least 2 doozen vehicles planned makes me think there was more then one produced and explain the 2 different storys as well as being moved from italy wouldnt make sense unless u had a spare vehicle as self propelled artillery was always being requested over fire support communication.

@jerrycarmody6717 Жыл бұрын

add warthunder

@comentedonakeyboard Жыл бұрын

Bigger caliber is better.

@ericjones9487 Жыл бұрын

Italian armored vehicles each took out one enemy tank shell.

@jackjohnson2101 Ай бұрын

The 47 mm gun was a very good gun. The narrator should know better.

@truetoffee8684 Жыл бұрын

The Italians were anticipating a colonial war like in Ethiopia not having to fight first world militaries, this didn't quite pan out and the rest is history!

@majungasaurusaaaa Ай бұрын

They could have handled Britain with German help. What they did not anticipate was the USA joining and Germany invading the USSR.

@TheLoyalOfficer 11 ай бұрын

It's always the same thing with Italy... They think up something cool, and produce 17 of them and call it a day.

@mikearmstrong8483 11 ай бұрын

1 round per minute? That doesn't make for a very effective barrage. No protection for the gun crew because of its long range. So, it's always fired at max range? What if a target happens to be closer? What if the enemy is being a brat and doesn't follow your house rules, and decides to move a battery closer to you and shoot back? Trust the US Army to lose a set of tank treads. "Hey Frank, where's those several hundred pounds of tank treads that 4 of us spent an hour removing?" "I thought I set them over there on the desk. Did somebody move them?"

@majungasaurusaaaa Ай бұрын

You can't really fit more protection on such a vehicle. War is a numbers game. Economy above crew safety. Just because the crew would like a bit more protection doesn't mean it's wise to give them that.