It isn't really smart to implement VTOLs in one of the busiest airspaces in the country. The safety aspect is a major concern with more air vehicles in use. In good news, the Red Line extension to 130th is a great investment by the CTA, but more frequent service on other lines is a must.

Everything has to be a gimmick when we already have perfectly good methods of travel like rail.Well now I know that Chicago is the third largest city in the USA, guessing;New York City, first, and Los Angeles, second?

Exactly, the fact CTA has new stock and yet NONE OF THEM are special O'Hare ones with luggage racks is a huge disappointment. And the thing is, the CTA BUILT infrastructure FOR an O'Hare/Midway Express from downtown back in the mid 2000s! A superstation below Block 37 using 200 million dollars of taxpayer money. It was designed so that using existing L trackage, O’Hare trains would join the Blue Line just before Clark/Lake, while Midway trains would join the Red at Washington and switch to the Orange Line via a little-used connector between the subway and elevated just south of Roosevelt, at State/13th. What happened to it? It's sitting ABANDONED. Why? Because under a 2005 agreement with The Mills Corporation who originally developed Block 37, it stated that the service must begin when it opens in 2008...it wasn't ready in time. The CTA had to keep up with the development, scrambling to get it done, but there was no additional capital funding for express tracks, and using existing tracks would have had significant adverse effects on CTA’s other lines. They didn't have the one billion estimated to make it happen

Well done!. As I see it, the problem with public transportation in our country is that it is considered as a sort of "luxury for the working class", as opposed to in other countries where public transportation is treated as an essential service like water, gas and electricity

I would make a frequent Metra service to O'Hare using the existing tracks but skipping more stations and improved frequency (which I know is basically already your proposal). Probably something like the UP Express in Toronto. With the people mover to the terminals themselves and a not to expensive fare, it could be very well used!

Great video! I can’t imagine actually using this service myself, having to go all the way out to the medical district just to take a glorified 50-100$ ride share is wild. Like, If I were a millionaire and wanted to fly my private jet to Chicago to see a game or concert at the United Center, then go home the same night, maaaaybe it would seem convenient and reasonably priced (and that right there is the inherent problem with this entire idea).

Hi Thom! As someone who used to work for CN in Chicago and through my current employer regularly works Metra assignments I can tell you first hand the unfortunate reality is that when it comes to expanding Metra service if it's not on a route where Metra owns the tracks expansion is a pipe dream at best. Most railroads want all Metra trains off of their trackage, and during my time at CN every time Metra would go to them asking for expanded service or route extensions the idea was shot down immediately. Unfortunately, the only reason Metra (and to a lesser extent Amtrak) is able to operate on CN trackage at all is due to the services beginning operation prior to CN owning the trackage (NCS under WC and HC being a holdover from the GM&O/ICG). I could go on for hours about all the things I have experienced with Metra from living in and around Chicago my whole life, but in a nutshell we have freight railroads owning the trackage and a lack of funding from the state and local municipalities to thank for the lack of Metra service on most routes, among many other issues.

The blue line needs luggage racks for not just the Ohare passengers, but the passengers arriving into Chicago Union Station!

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Hi Thom and thanks for making this video. I am an engineer, (PE) that works on urban infrastructure development and I also prefer to travel by rail, and support more rail infrastructure development. However, I support the eVTOL by Archer aviation for Chicago specifically and here is why. I had to travel to Chicago twice, once in 2021 and again in 2022. These were my first trips to Chicago. I live in the Houston area where we lack any meaningful public transit and even less rail. On both of my trips to Chicago, I took the blue line from O'hare to downtown Chicago. It was a very jarring experience. I am in a wheelchair. At the O'hare airport, I had to wait until an employee came to place a ramp so that I could board the train because the gap is too large for a wheelchair to pass over. Most stops on the blue line, and the CTA system wide, lack elevators. This is a problem for not just me, but also for others who maybe walk with a cane but can not negotiate stairs safely. It's also a problem for people with luggage. I saw a man with 2 large suitcases and a carryon bag struggle to manage his large bags down some stairs. It made me wonder how many women have had the same struggle. Next, the train was at points, extreme rough, I was even doing a video recording when myself along with 2 other able-bodies passengers were knocked out of out seats. It took the other person traveling with me to help me get back into my wheelchair. This is not only unacceptable, but a safety hazard. On my last trip, I boarded in downtown and the trains were so crowded I had to wait for 2 more trains before I could find enough space that I could board. Once we got on, again, I was recording video, there were 2 men who felt that society norms and laws didn't apply to them and it was making myself and other passengers uncomfortable. Our trips took 55 minutes. Given these arguments, how can you promote the CTA blue line over Archer's eVtol? Archer's eVtol's isn't meant to be the solution for mass transit. It is suppose to let some take alternative transportation that is faster. By allowing some to take alternative methods, it should free up space on the blue line. But I think the problem is deeper, and you alluded to it in your video when you indicated that funding is subpar. At every station that actually had an elevator and actually worked, finding the elevator from street level to use and access the station was difficult, it was not clearly marked, or in some cases, marked at all. Having to wait until an employees decided to work and come place the ramp that spans the gap is not a pleasant experience. It makes me feel like I'm a burden to others and a second class citizen. According to the CTA's own statistics, only 9% of total ridership on that line actually travels from downtown to O'hare airport. Given the lack of accessibility, the difficulty for elderly or those traveling with luggage, the safety on board, the rough rides, and the behavior or other riders, I have no problem paying $70 or $100 to take Archer's eVtol. And I can't be the only person with these experiences. What you guys need is a dedicated train from O'hare to downtown that makes maybe 2 stops at major transfer centers along the way. That will speed up the train so it's faster than driving, and keep a lot of unpleasant behavior off this specific train. Add security, and fix stations that have elevators and add elevators, and fix the gap. I have rode trains in Dallas, Houston, Miami's Brightline, Denver RTD, San Francisco's BART, St. Louis, and Wash D.C. Metro and none of them have this gap issue between the station platform and the train car. Each of them them also had working elevators. So I conclude, Chicago's gap problem is a lack of giving a crap, not the cost and engineering ability to fix it. As an engineer, I can tell you the cost to fix the gap is minimal. As far as an express which I have eluded to above, and you indicated in your video, that is the solution. And there are engineering solutions to make it happen. But it will be a business use case and political public benefit case to make and win. As an engineer, we don't make the decisions on what to build. We develop plans based on the customer or political body who is paying for the given project. We can design the most perfect project the is the safest, fastest, or whatever, but the best usually means to expensive, so political leaders say no to that much money so we cut things out, and make compromises until it matches the budget the political governing body will accept. That same body often mandates certain feature or aspects for political reasons and it can result in poor execution and poor service that makes the engineering look like crap. Asking Chicago to build an express blue line with the case that it will have acceptable public benefit at the billions it will take to build when it cost Chicago pennies to allow private companies like Archer to come in and be a part of the solution...., that's a hard sell. My Conclusion, if Chicago is unable or unwilling to make meaningful changes to funding and infrastructure transit plans, the result will be private companies filling that gap for travelers who are unwilling to put up with current CTA service standards. I am not wealthy, just average middle class, but am willing to pay for eVtol. Again thanks for making this video. I am a strong rail supporter, and this is one of the few cases where I support something other than rail. I would encourage you to become part of the solution, study ideas, and bring them to the city and CTA, create an advocacy group to promote a better rail service.

I have used the blue line transit to and from O’Hare airport. While it could be improved, especially providing for baggage racks. It does the job getting you there and back and at a good price. The same for the orange line to Midway airport. It is a convient and low cost alternative without road traffic delays to and from the loop.

One idea would be to make the Blue Line quad track between Addison and O'Hare, the median nature of this section of the line seems to provide enough space for 2 more tracks. One thing I really want for our median train lines, not really related but... I think it would make sense to add platform screen doors. They would cut down on the noise from the expressways and improve safety, we've unfortunately had too many instances of people on the tracks recently. Another place we could start adding screen doors is the new stations currently being built on the RPM project, the new Green Line station on Damen, and the new State/Lake Loop station

Hear, here, Thom! Improving the rail. Service to the airport would bring more riders in for rideshare and public transportation. I will use public transportation when I can and if it was paid attention to, it would be excellent. I am questioning the wisdom of the EVTOL project maybe for the Chicago area, but, maybe not for more remote areas if the aircraft have range.

Thanks for today's presentation . We could take a cue from Europe. Many people I have conversed with over time feel the same way. I am in the tech industry. I respect technology and wish for improved rail service too!😊

I'm feeling very positive with our new mayor, a mayor who actually rides CTA which we haven't had since Rahm Emanuel and transit was probably the one thing Rahm was decent on. I also think it's telling that the first thing Johnson did after his win was shake hands with voters and talk with transit workers at the Cermak/Chinatown Red Line Station 😊

Years ago, Chicago Helicopter Service used to fly from the Loop to both O'Hare and Midway. Chicago Helicopter used gates on Concourse H, back when H had Delta, North Central, and Southern. United also used to fly between Miegs and O'Hare. That avoided the traffic on the Kennedy, and the security and check-in lines at O'Hare. There are 2 train issues. The CTA can't figure how to run express trains from the Loop to O'Hare. Plus, schlepping luggage on the CTA is a pain. While Metra service to O'Hare is fast, whether from Union Station or the North Suburbs, then you have to get on the ATS with the rental car and remote parking crowd and schlep through the garage to the train station. United's plan means you will be inside security for departing O'Hare and don't have to deal with the baggage claim if arriving O'Hare.

Another issue: Weather. These devices will not be able to operate 9n windy days and rain/ snow storms. In Chicago this will be a big problem many days.

Great video, I totally agree thanks for sharing!

When I was around your age Thom, I had the desire to try, just once, the Los Angeles Airways helicopter service that I could hear every day flying to and from Disneyland three miles away. It was that loud. The service had begun in 1947 from, wait for it... right next door to LA Union Station downtown. It flew to several destinations besides Disneyland in Anaheim, but that was its main destination for the two and a half decades that it survived as a business. Two fatal accidents finally brought the company down.

The Blue Line express could run from the Loop to O'Hare without stopping anywhere. I know it's not ideal but it could definitely help during concerts, conventions, and other major gatherings especially. Kind of like the Purple Line.

That Sky Taxi's are maybe an alternative for business people, but its no public transport. I think it would be a good idea to look at the public transport in the big European cities. In most of that cities public transport, mostly by rail, is so good that there is no need for flying taxi's or even cars to get everywhere in the city in a short time. Connections with airports nearby are also very good with railtransport, often with dedicated raillines.

FYI, for the CTA, each car is considered as "comfortable" with 61 passengers per car (or 488 passengers per train).

Thom, Thank you for your report, I'm glad I live here in South Florida, as we have Brightline, Tri-Rail and Amtrak, and with all the buses, we are doing fine, except that many of the buses are never full. Keep up the good work on your videos.

I could see it as a good option between a place like Long Island and NE. Especially for college students from LI, or in Hawaii to Island hop

I agree, and plus the hovercrafts could run out of battery and fall. Once again a great video.

Hi Thom! Excellent analysis. I am Italian, but I love Chicago, a city I visit at least once per year and indeed improving rail connectivity of O’ Hare is obviously the right priority. You are Dutch, right? Keep on pushing!

When I'm on the Blue Line to O'Hare I'm always zooming past the traffic on the highway. And the Orange line from the loop to Midway. 30 min. No road will EVER beat that.

I used to come to Chicago for the Socialism conference at McCormick Center. The first trip showed a direct Metra line from O’Hare to a station under McCormick. Then I saw the sparse schedule that would never match up with any of my flights. I could only take the Blue line to downtown then transfer to the Orange and then either wait for buses that come two or three times an hour or just shlep my bags six blocks from Cormac station. The downtown Metra is also not joined up with the L. Maybe comrade Brandon, your brand new mayor, is interested in working with CN to get increased Metra frequency btwn downtown and O’Hare and tweaking the downtown and airport Metra stations so they link up conveniently with the L?

Chicago needs high speed rail to and from the airport and blue line express trains!!! I thought high speed rail was going to happen?!?!??! What happened? Awesome video and I agree with you!!!

The blue line used to have baggage racks, but they got rid of them because nobody was using them

You know, my friend’s dream is to make transit good. And part of that dream is better transit to airports! My friend dreamed up a fast automated express train where what would normally be the power car would instead be used as the baggage car, as his idea involved distributed traction. He also imagined In Town Check In in a special part of Union Station which he called the Downtown Air Terminal!

Hi! I am long time Chicagoan who grew up on the south side [Woodlawn and Chatham] and has been living on the north side [Rogers Park] since 1979. I am have ridden all CTA lines as well as Metra UP-N, UP-NW, Rock Island and MED. I agree with electrifying Metra lines which could serve O'Hare. Until that is done as an alternative how about busways that connect with the closes stations to O'Hare and use electric buses on them?

Salt Lake City would like to have a word with the CTA about keeping trains clean and running to time, if RMTransit is to be believed.

Is there, perhaps, an available embankment along CN's ROW that they can give to the RTA to build high speed track to O'Hare on? Maybe another similar route along the Heritage Corridor to Midway, and then maybe a connecting route between the airports via a Belt Railway embankment. They could charge $10 a trip and call it the Triangle Line! (Loop-O'Hare-Midway) You could have two high speed trains doing loops around in both directions. Just an idea.

Agreed about amount of traffic in Chicago. I live in the Chicago area. When Meigs Field was in operation, Chicago did have a helicopter service to O'Hare and Midway. It stopped service sometime in the 1970s .There were heliports located in other areas that served the helicopter service to O'Hare and Midway airports. Look up CHICAGO HELICOPTER AIRWAYS. Otherwise, great video as always.

Agree completely that this is a bad idea. Check the safety record of existing VTOL's in the USA. It's nothing like the record of the airlines, which is perfect in the USA, Europe, and between major cities globally. Agree a Blue Line Express would help, but it isn't easy to put in passing points on that line. I suppose an elevated line above the existing one is just an expensive dream. North Central is a great idea but that requires a major pulloff area just beyond the O'Hare platform to run those extra trains between O'Hare and the City. Hopefully they don't try to pass that cost through to the air travelers with exorbitant prices. It would then become like London's Heathrow Express, which is so overpriced that it forced the ordinary travelers back onto the Piccadilly Line - which, BTW, has luggage racks. With so many sububanites flying, I could picture those eVTOLs going to a lot of destinations, perhaps even as far as Milwaukee or even Madison. We could see a veritable spider's web in the sky competing with the current air traffic.

They also need to stop claiming that they're the first electric air taxi service (no it isn't), and that there are "zero points of failure." That's complete nonsense.

I agree, this eVTOL thing for Chicago is a terrible idea imo. We already have the Blue Line and Metra to O’Hare airport. The capacity is limited for the eVTOL compared to the Blue Line and Metra’s NCS. The Vertiport location is hard to go to without a car since it is not easy for you to get there with transit and they are not that convenient to reach them for all around Chicago. And the price is probably gonna more likely be much higher than riding Metra and the Blue Line as we see with Lyft, and Lux for example, so this apparently means that this mode to O’Hare will more likely be for the rich and it is most likely that mostly rich people will buy trips on this mode to the airport and that this method is not financially sustainable for a larger group people to use. Adding 70 to 100 bucks to your flight is a lot of money for some people and it is not only rich people that fly. I agree with when Adam said the wealthy continues to build infrastructure that keeps them entertained while people who do not have as much money are continuing to deal with deteriorating infrastructure that they are left with. I agree that trains are good and better for the environment compared to cars for example. We should continue to improve public transportation instead of making stuff only for the wealthy and that not many people can afford as much to get to their destinations. Trains for the most part can carry more capacity, they can access downtown better, they can access neighborhoods along the way easier, and they are a cheaper alternative for more people. Overall I agree with this review.

Swapping a traffic jam on the road for a traffic jam in the air...

I frequently use the Kennedy expressway and it’s very crowded at times

So true about the bike lanes. Makes me heated that the biggest barrier to improving bike and bus infrastructure is the parking meter deal we still got 60 years left on

On many routes in Europe and Japan, high speed rail has replaced short-haul flying. This is ridiculous.

Keep it up Tom great video! So many criticisms and you didn't even get to safety and reliability!

I think the E-VTOL idea is cool but definitely not practical, at least for Chicago. The blue line is my favourite CTA line, and I agree that we should improve it. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

Haha your description of bike commuting and transit was spot on with my experience as a visitor! I would hate to bike commute outside of the Lakeshore Trail and downtown. Got to experience a 10+ minute bus delay for my L transfer. Not so reliable as I thought coming from small city Idaho with one bus route. On this video, NYC has a current helicopter to the LaGuardia airport from Manhattan, but it's $200 and more for the insane views than a public transit option.

Thom, you made excellent points in your video.

...Chicago used to have scheduled helicopter service from Meigs Field (now closed) on the lakefront to O'Hare and Midway on Chicago Helicopter AIrways which operated from 1956 to 1974 using Sikorsky S-58Cs Back in 1960s the fare was 6.00$ for the 11- 12 minute flight from Meigs to O'hare which would be about 60$ today just taking inflation into account. I do agree having small drone like aircraft operating with a high frequency in that airspace would be an ATC nightmare, particularly today as the ATC system is understaffed. (there was eve3n a call for airlines to reduce the number of flights this summer) Back in the late 1960s through mid 70s when I lived in SE Milwaukie, I would often see planes destined for O'hare in holding patterns overhead.and off the Lake Michigan shore.That's how saturated the airspace for Chicago area was even then. Speaking of Milwaukee, airports, and trains, there is an actual Amtrak station at the west end of the airport with train departure and arrivals times shown in the main terminal As for luggage accommodations, Seattle's LRT, which serves SeaTac from Downtown and Northgate, does have spaces for luggage.

This idea's one solid advantage is for electrifying private air taxis and helicopter tours. Yeah, Chicago's airspace is too crowded for these gadgets to replace public transit

Hey! I live in Chicago. I love Chicago. It’s so easy to get around. Except rush-hour Friday night. But I know all the shortcuts.

How right you are, sir!

The blue line on the highways are sooooo uncomfortable to wait at. It feels like you’re an inconvenience being in the middle of the highway. It’s not relaxing or enjoyable. Feels like a last minute ideaz

They should instead construct a new train terminal next to the Milwaukee District west. Not only will it relieve congestion from the Blue line and remove difficulties from the NCS line but it would also allow Milwaukee District west trains to have access to O'hare Airport, Amtrak trains would also get access to O'hare, and Electrification more easily be implemented since you don't have to deal with Canadian National and an airport express can easily be implemented and access to the terminals via O'hare ATS.

Great video. I agree rail service to and from O'hare needs to be improved. And concerning an express service from O'hare to the Loop, why not an express bus in its own dedicated BRT lane along the Kennedy?

I totally agree our investment for the future should be in the rails and not flying services.

you can do an express train by building rails above the stations like bridges

Hi! Old baby boomer here. You are an exceptionally intelligent young man. You do your research. I wish I was your grandmother so I could brag about you!

I think a good case study for this proposal might be Blade here in NYC. Granted they use traditional helicopters, but there are a lot of similar issues at play.

I watched this video earlier and then had a thought about your pricing from downtown to the airport. You talked about the price of taking an evTol to the airport. Uber etc adding around 70 dollars to the cost of your travel. you would also have to factor in an additional 70 dollars or so for your return trip.

Even if the NCS doesn’t do it’s full route all day, they could do more short turns to O’hare or a bit further 2-3 times an hour with full trips only hourly at best

As a Muslim, I'm so disappointed in my Muslim brothers in Saudi Arabia and how selfish they have become.

Chicago needs to build an equivalent to the Pearson express in Toronto in addition to the blue line. Maybe add one stop in Logan square/bucktown but something to union station would be ideal. No more than $20 each way.

Dear Thom, This was a very reasonable critique of the proposed airport helicopter service. I would add a strong statement that the environmental damages are not being addressed or perhaps ignored,

Honestly its not a terrible idea (to me) to feed small local airports into the large one. So then you don't have to drive far to the main airport, or pay expensive parking fees ect. But them only doing it from 1 specific airport, it will make it very limited. I do think they should be using larger aircraft and not just small helicopters. Rail just really isn’t an option for me as someone who lives in the burbs. I would have to take a 1 hour Metra ride to Chicago and then another 1 hour ride on the L to Ohare. When I could just drive directly there in 35 mins.

There's an amazing number of flights between Chicago and Detroit. An amazing amount of traffic would be happy to bypass the airports as soon as there's high speed rail between Chicago and Detroit! (I'm from Ann Arbor. The high speed train needs to stop here too.)

Stopped CN trains are always blocking the Water Street crossing at mile 249.21 (from Chicago) in Stevens Point, Wisconsin. This is the primary route to cross the tracks for pedestrians and bikers. The tracks cut the town in half. I can hear the electronic bell from the crossing all the time cause I live a few blocks away. I primarily walk or bike for short trips and that creates a problem for me and many other non motorized travelers. It is a 1/2 mile extra to walk to the Church Street underpass (1930's vintage with 4 traffic lanes and two sidewalks in a 50 foot wide space) and in the winter the sidewalks are not cleared by the responsable owner (the city) so we either go over or under the train or risk our lives by trudging through snow that turns into ice chunks on a sidewalk only an arms length distance from 40 mph road traffic. I like trains but not the way they are now being run by the corporate culture of the owners. And our state is basically run by the rich red counties near Milwaukee who don't want any train service, only new roads. Thanks to gerrymandering they will always be controlling our state's destiny and train service will not cross into Wisconsin. The Hiawatha services will not travel past Milwaukee to places like Green Bay or Madison as long as they are in office. They changed the laws so Metra cannot run north of Kenosha to Milwaukee because they say we have good roads and trains are an outdated expensive boondoggle. I want the Soo Line Laker passenger train that ran from Chicago to Duluth and Minneapolis, and was discontinued in 1965, restored but the track owner, CN railroad and our GOP leaders will make sure that never happens.

I'd also just note that Gov. Pritzker is so rich that $70-$100 is nothing to him. So the effect of this idea on normal people is not something he may think about. Which is part of the price of Illinois having a governor rich enough not to be a crook.

As RM Transit would say that EVTOL thing or whatever that is would be considered a gadget bahn, and will not do good for Chicago, what the city should do is improve and expand their public transportation system like major upgrades and extending the line heck even buying new equipment, and that Crossrail Chicago proposal must be under consideration as well

Chicago sounds preety dope

I also wonder how wheelchair accessible those eVTOLs are. I'm guessing not much.

i live in downtown by the lakefront by the concrete beaches. i really wish the highway is just rerouted. turn it into a pedestrian only superplaza and it'll transform chicago

This specific service might have some viable transit alternatives, but it's also a good starting point to develop the concept. Ultimately EVTOL aircraft might provide a lot of the short hop air service as city-to-city flights instead of airport-to-airport, eliminating both short haul jet flights and medium haul car trips. Could regional rail provide a similar service? Sure, but in the current state that's a very limited and slow option. Most people do opt to drive from Chicago to Peoria instead of taking a 5 hour bus trip. Imagine if that only took 90 minutes and had zero emissions? The Chicago Vertiport doesn't get any public funding as far I can find. Is United or Vertiport getting any state or city money for the project? The FAA is funding some EVTOL and Vertiport development, but I don't know if this project gets any of the FAA funds. Let the private companies pour money into this so the state and the city can spend our money on good transit and not have to deal with people who'll never take it demanding direct freeways between every city in Illinois.

😮😅😆 What could go wrong ? You are so right! I thank you again for showing a video of what happened to the original Metropolitan lounge at Union Station Chicago. I miss that one with the working fireplace.Carry on Sir !

Excellent arguments for improving transportation between downtown and O’Hare. If more Chicagoans had experienced the excellent airport transportation in other countries, especially Japan, they might be demanding changes in Chicago.

I'm sure somebody else has probably mentioned this in the comments already but where I see VTOL's being really useful is for emergencies where are the fire departments are having trouble getting equipment 40 stories up on a highrise and the elevators are broken. The same idea for emergency evacuation's. Until we have better battery chemistry I see no way that we could use these VTOL's for transit over buses and trains which our orders of magnitude more efficient.

You Are So Right!! It Makes Me Crazy How So Many criticize Trains and Buses and they wouldn't be caught dead on one. This is only the thoughts of Americans. The rest of the World Embraces Trains and Buses. It's shameful!! Your Channel Is Fabulous.🌴

Yeah and it's hella dangerous when they eventually crash into each other or frustrated people shoot at them or shine Lazer pointers at the pilots

High winds, snows storms, air traffic control overload, just to name a few. Stupid idea.

I guess United's trying to influence the CTA to discontinue the Blue Line to O'Hare, LOL. It's not going to work. Taking the El to O'Hare may take 45 minutes from the Loop, but it totally beats trying to navigate through downtown Chicago and get caught in traffic on the Kennedy Expressway. The solution to this is leave extra early to add in the travel time. Those "e-copters" are a financial disaster waiting to happen if they were to occur.

There is no way it would be that cheap, based on the images provided it looks like a low capacity. Which when you considered the FAAs severe level of safety regulations the maintenance will be cripplingly expensive for their low capacity. Which will make it's way down to ticket prices that will absolutely be like $100-200.

Absolute madness Thom 😂 #AmericanThings

You make some excellent points here. Every time I have flown in or out of Chicago, I have always used the trains. I just go in knowing that it's going to take some time, but at $2.50 per ride, there's no way I'm going to pay for an Uber or Lyft ride! I can tell you right now that even though I might be able to afford using those new monstrosities, I would actively choose not to. Going out of your way just to get to a pick up spot seems ridiculous to me. The whole thing does not make sense to me on several levels.

A few days like today in Chicago (high and gusty winds) will stop those transfers. Only going to get worse with time.

Also from Chicago over here. I'm curious to see how Brandon Johnson improves transit and bike infrastructure. Rahm Emanuel (as much as I didn't like him) was one of the best mayors in recent times in regards to these projects and policies. Lori was terrible for transit/biking. And no, I'm not interested in having a political debate about the mayors. I only brought it up to talk about their views/policies on biking/transit.

This is j ust a repeat of the helicopter airlines of the 1950s to 1970s It was proven to not be viable outside of a very limited selection of routes then (without incredible subsidies) & it'll probably just be proven again

0:43 So that Chicago River colored into green thing wasn't just from The Fugitive? Even so, yeah, that eVTOL thing is really dumb and appears to be a safety hazard for the airplanes around O'Hare, and I'm not gonna lie, I honestly think that either an expansion of Metra's north central service, or making some sort of Blue Line express service. Also if this were an Adam Something video he'd definitely work the eVTOL around to make it into a train. And I am certain that he's probably doing it (or has done it).

Totally agree Thom! There is a lot of room to improve both CTA and Metra services and infrastructure. Back before pandemic I commuted regularly to and from downtown, riding North Central line, every day I wished for the things that were missing: more trains per day, weekend service, tracks expansion (a section of that line is down to only a single track both ways). Union station looks nice enough inside, but platforms are in a horrendous state (think dirty water sipping through the roof on rainy days). Would be nice to have funding to go into those areas (instead of Metra exec stepping in front of the train to avoid being fired after taking an unauthorized bonus).

NASCAR's Chicago street race is a better option than having VTOLs in Chicago. If only the layout was thoroughly tested before being announced though...

It's not terrible in my POV it's kind of distinctive but this would fit goodly for areas e.g. South Korea, Japan or the advanced countries.

You tell 'em, Thom.

This idea seems pretty terrible given it's location. Also, rich people are usually flying out of the executive airport up by Northbrook.

We need to be more and more efficent with out energy in the future. And some think, the most energy consuming mode of transportation (helicopter) should be the solution? Nope, that's the most efficent mode of transportation: the railway!

Had this been posted 5 days earlier I would have screamed April Fool. 😂 Hopefully the new Mayor will help with public transport improvement

We definitely have the money but canadian national is being an asshole just because passenger trains run on their tracks

Yeah, I don't see why they can't just increase the frequency of the trains to O'Hare. It seems like it would be easier and cheaper.

While these are cool vehicles,they are not the best for this situation! Working on the roads and rail systems would make more sense! Your ideas are what they need to do!

Chicago needs a train that circles throughout the city that connects all the lines together

realistically, I can see the EVTOLs basically just being a weird supplemental service, kind of akin to rideshare. I see little likelihood that this system will be scalable as mass transit, basically being pods and all. I see why someone would think it's cool, but that's about where the system's appeal ends. Just take the damn train like everyone else

I live in Chicago in these VTOLs seem to be one of the worst ideas I've ever heard of. We have had helicopter service between the loop and O'Hare, but Mayor Daley senior ended this because he thought it was too dangerous which it is. We already have convenient rail service to both airports, and they work well in all types of weather. Let's end this project right now, just because a couple of FatCats want to look cool.

I can see these things working for short, lower demand flights to more isolated airports, kind of an aircraft version of the Pop-Up Metro concept that some talked about for a few years now in the railroad scene, but for a major city like Chicago, this is going to cause a LOT of airspace issues, especially when an airport as busy as O'Hare is one of the major termini, along with literally every other issue outlined here.

okay, hear me out, what if we make a new project and just call it electric hover vtol superhighways, but just... build a bunch of train lines with futuristic looking fiberglass shells that make it look like they're flying. if they can be fooled into thinking that hundreds of eVTOLs will meaningfully impact anything even slightly related to MASS transit, they can be fooled into building trains if you make them look futuristic enough.