A Top Tier Board Game | Black Rose Wars: Rebirth Review

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Tim Chuon

Tim Chuon

Күн бұрын

Black Rose Wars: Rebirth by Ludus Magnus Studio is insanely good. I've literally been looking for a game to satisfy an epic mage warfare, and this is it! As a somewhat asymmetrical mage, you'll be rebuilding the lodge (worker placement/area control), casting AWESOME spells (deck building), and mastering different schools of magic to become the ultimate Grand Magister. Join me as I obsess over this game for a bit 😂
0:00 Intro
0:27 The Premise
6:18 The Downfall
10:00 The Rising Action
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@banzainator
@banzainator 2 ай бұрын
Oh mah gah Tim you didn't tell me there was going to be PROGRAMMING HERE
@TimChuon
@TimChuon 2 ай бұрын
SEE THAT. I KNEW SOMEONE WAS GONNA SAY IT
@Duskull666
@Duskull666 2 ай бұрын
Nice video and production quality, but i would appreciate more shots of the entire board, so i can see how the entire thing would look like
@TimChuon
@TimChuon 2 ай бұрын
i'll definitely do that for future videos more, slipped in a couple top downs at 3:05 but it's an awkwardly big shape to get everything in frame! 🙌
@FullmoonEffects89
@FullmoonEffects89 2 ай бұрын
Sorry. KZfaq didn't give him enough instructions to do so
@binnieb173
@binnieb173 2 ай бұрын
@@TimChuon I think bringing up size of a game is important in a review. Maybe something to add in in the future.
@-LiQuidGaS-
@-LiQuidGaS- 2 ай бұрын
This is quickly becoming my absolute favourite BG channel, not just because Tim is a delight and informative to listen to, but because the editing done on this channel is second to none, with decor/lighting and B-rolls techniques that are usually more reserved for tech channels and high end product reviews, making BG even cooler than it already is Absolutely fantastic work, please don’t ever give up this hobby and keep up the incredibly amazing work Tim!
@TimChuon
@TimChuon 2 ай бұрын
That's so inspiring to hear-thank you so much for that friend! Means a lot to hear you appreciating the work behind the camera, and definitely keeps me motivated to keep filming! Thank you so much
@eulermachado3968
@eulermachado3968 2 ай бұрын
What an awesome video, great quality and amazing light effects. Loved the clean and fast review also. You used a great effort on this, all the Black Rose Magisters community thanks you for that!
@germanturkey
@germanturkey 2 ай бұрын
your production quality is still off the charts. keep it up!
@TimChuon
@TimChuon 2 ай бұрын
that's awesome to hear, thank you so much!
@Exozik
@Exozik 2 ай бұрын
By far the best. A lot more publisher should work with Tim to present their game. his videos are always awesome to watch.
@HandOvDoom
@HandOvDoom 2 ай бұрын
🌹 Excellent video. Great production. I can’t wait to get this to the table.
@ZephyrorOG
@ZephyrorOG 2 ай бұрын
In our experience, the game is way more fun with the following house rules: 1 - Remove programming. All spells can be cast in any order, with your quick spell just being a more protected slot (usually no way to mess with it from other players). Why? 1.1 - The game state at more and more player counts changes EXTREMELY rapidly, you literally CANNOT foresee what will happen. This allows you to be way more reactive and not have so many dead turns because someone acted before you and ruined your entire turn. Being first player isn't a guarantee either, as you can trigger traps or have your first player token taken from you before turn begins (event phase). 1.2 - You might just get one shotted from certain mage/school combinations and lose all of your summons and position on the board, so if you don't have a way to adapt your round (set of turns) ... Dead round! 2 - Don't respawn in your own cell. Respawn... Wherever you like! Respawning in your own cell might, again, lead you to dead whole rounds (set of turns) where you just move and do literally nothing else. This adds an element of chaos and unpredictability in turns that combined with the more reactive gameplay feels way more in each players control. If you think this is too OP, you can set up a random generator to respawn in 1 of 3 random hexes. 3. Draw 3 keep 1 quests, instead of draw 1. Some quests are straight up impossible to achieve in any amount of turns with some mages/schools, specially if your opponents have any smear of intelligence (Hmmm I wonder why a completely spell based school is now spamming room minions?). This minimizes the risk of getting a impossible quest and being permanently behind compared to your opponents. 4. And this is only if you really like chaotic gameplay like we do ... All protection and trap spells can stay active WITHOUT CONSUMING A SPELL SLOT. This turns the game into a crescendo of tension and one small spark can cause a chain reaction that is just SO MUCH FUN. Anyway, this is obviously my opinion but damn if it hasn't worked out. I have Black Rose Wars, Black Rose Wars Rebirth and both Kickstarter stretch goals (sator box), 6P expansions and Apocalypse.
@stevevitka7442
@stevevitka7442 2 ай бұрын
That's how I'll play, cutting and pasting this comment....thanks.
@timarnold4944
@timarnold4944 Ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing. Sounds interesting.
@blaketmoran
@blaketmoran 2 ай бұрын
The production value of these videos…so good!!!
@proxidize5738
@proxidize5738 2 ай бұрын
Both this video and the game are works of art, beautiful
@TimChuon
@TimChuon 2 ай бұрын
happy you enjoyed the review! thank you!
@mattmc20
@mattmc20 2 ай бұрын
Great video. I got the 100% all in years ago as one of the first kickstarters I ever did. I was new to the hobby so I was blown away by all the plastic that it would provide. FF, 500 games in collection to this point, no space in my shelves....and this behemouth shows up. So overwhelmed by all the stuff, I still haven't looked at it. I want to like it, but it seems like it is soooo deep that you have to have people willing to make it a lifestyle game with you. Otherwise, you really aren't getting the most out of it.
@zenithquasar9623
@zenithquasar9623 2 ай бұрын
The way you presented the game was best I have ever seen!
@TheTabletopFoundry
@TheTabletopFoundry 2 ай бұрын
This is one of my favorite channels due to the production value! keep up the good work! 🌹 Upset I passed on this in the last Kickstarter lol
@TimChuon
@TimChuon 2 ай бұрын
dang, that means the world, thank you! hahah i think they're still accepting late pledges....? 👀
@madthinker7777
@madthinker7777 Ай бұрын
Fantastic vid and production value! This game is unbelievable, I picked up the first in trade and late backed rebirth - So good! I hope it gets all the hype in the world.
@adam551982
@adam551982 10 күн бұрын
TIMMMMMMMMMMMMM! You gotta do some full play throughs with your friends for this game. I really think it would be a hit. I already sorted my way through the rulebook that, as you already said is the "barrier to fun." If Ludus Magnus Studios could give this game some TLC post launch, they have a gem on their hands. If they don't do an FAQ, errata and follow up supporting the game they will have blown a big opportunity.
@Janisurai
@Janisurai 2 ай бұрын
Love the review and quality and I think it would be even better to get some shots of the whole board earlier on
@Jokeman69
@Jokeman69 2 ай бұрын
Video got me hyped for it, went over to the funding page and realised it was $399 xD fml
@kanalune
@kanalune 2 ай бұрын
I’m still waiting for my copy to arrive, but videos like this keep the hype up 🤩
@thecuriousboardgamer
@thecuriousboardgamer 2 ай бұрын
🌹 Nice! Glad to hear you like it. I was a fan of the OG Black Rose Wars despite its flaws. I just love the theme, art, and overall aesthetic. Haven't unboxed my Rebirth yet, but excited to do so!
@thecuriousboardgamer
@thecuriousboardgamer 2 ай бұрын
PS - I love your glasses!
@DevonTalksTabletop
@DevonTalksTabletop 2 ай бұрын
I haven't played Rebirth, but Black Rose Wars is one of my favorite games that I've rarely played. I haven't found a group that wants to deal with the rules onboarding, but a playthrough of this game is a standout memory for me in board gaming. I love that you love this!
@TimChuon
@TimChuon 2 ай бұрын
Sign me up for that group Devon id be down to play any day! 🤝🏽 you’re so right, we have VERY similar gaming taste 🤣 Thank you so much for watching! 🔥
@DevonTalksTabletop
@DevonTalksTabletop 2 ай бұрын
@@TimChuon it will happen!
@SebasSant87
@SebasSant87 2 ай бұрын
Amazing Review! Kept me hooked all the way! 🌹What fog machine do you use?
@hubris1960
@hubris1960 2 ай бұрын
Interestingly enough, there was a mode for the original Black Rose Wars that allowed for greater asymmetry between the mages. Also, a few playable characters seem to have some special abilities but it can feel balance breaking or get expensive. Hyperion is an example of this. He is in an expansion from Nova Aetas Renaissance but he was given content that allows him to participate in BRW in a few ways.
@timarnold4944
@timarnold4944 Ай бұрын
One of my favourite games. Always finish games with talking about epic moments and plays
@markdandridge4433
@markdandridge4433 2 ай бұрын
🖤🌹🧙‍♀️ I love how you we're able to incorporate Dwellings of Eldervale! I wasn't familiar with this title, but my ear picked up when you compared it to Dwellings. I have gone all in with Dwellings this month. With AE landing in just about 5 months. I am trying to reach the goal set by Daniel. I will take a deeper dive into this just because of your review. I will definitely let you know if or when I pull the trigger. Thanks again, Tim.⚔️🧙‍♂️🐲🐺
@TimChuon
@TimChuon 2 ай бұрын
the two share so many similarities and with a solo mode, i think it's one to keep on your radar for sure Mark! I totally forgot how fast AE is approaching though thanks for the reminder!!
@RealBakedShark
@RealBakedShark 2 ай бұрын
What is AE?
@TimChuon
@TimChuon 2 ай бұрын
@RealBakedShark Andromeda’s Edge!
@HeroOfTheWeb
@HeroOfTheWeb Ай бұрын
I appreciate the cinematography and the explanation clealy of what cards look like and what abilities do and how turns work. I've seen far too many board game reviews where they just have the box art and they say something like "you have a guy and you can go over here and do a thing and then maybe you take a marker and you put it over here and that gives you a victory point and there so much you can do!" - yes a run on sentence because thats how they talk. I remember a reviewer once talking about the reasons a game might appeal to someone. In the middle of his sentence he said "you know if youuuu like to do stuff and ..." the sentence went on but it made me laugh. I do in fact like to do stuff, so this game must be for me. I don't think they are bad reviewers, I think some of them just have too much shit to review and they spend no time on the review. Of course you can't if you're playing 100 games in a month. Still, I prefer your approach, and i'll always look for review/gameplay videos with good audio and up close views.
@morgaknightgames
@morgaknightgames 2 ай бұрын
I'm currently playing Nova Aetas Renaissance from LMS right now, and the rulebook there is a mess as well. I think that's a very consistent weakness the company has, which is frustrating. We shouldn't have to dig through BGG to find an answer for something that should absolutely be in the rulebook. But, on the other hand, I've been really enjoying NAR despite that issue. 😅 Edit: good to know it plays well solo! I've been having issues scheduling with my group recently, so it'll be nice to test it out and learn the rules prior to introducing it to friends. 🌹
@hschwarz75
@hschwarz75 2 ай бұрын
🌹 I have the first BRW as retail version and BRWR the Kickstarter version. Very nice video about it.
@imme2763
@imme2763 Ай бұрын
Nice video! 🌹
@GamersRush
@GamersRush 2 ай бұрын
🌹 I have the first game and it is really good, I got this version this geek and I can't wait to play it!!
@TyquailHaskins
@TyquailHaskins Ай бұрын
Omgg this game looks amazing! I love dwellings solo! 🌹🌹
@hermanturnip3984
@hermanturnip3984 2 ай бұрын
I always thought Black Rose Wars was underrated. It’s a fun wizard slugfest that elicits tons of laughs and more than a fair share of don't-you-dare moments. I’m psyched for this next iteration. Anxious to see how the improvements play out.
@TimChuon
@TimChuon 2 ай бұрын
such a brilliant way to put it! I didn't play the original, but rebirth is so slick and fun, and I've already played through half the new expansions already. You're gonna love it!
@Why-Ron75
@Why-Ron75 26 күн бұрын
@@hermanturnip3984 which do you like better? This or the original?
@hermanturnip3984
@hermanturnip3984 25 күн бұрын
​@@Why-Ron75 My pledge of Rebirth is on its way, scheduled to arrive next week. Hopefully I'll get around to playing it soon after. I can tell you right now that I'm glad Rebirth did away with those fiddly rose pins. That'll be a big improvement.
@totalinsanity87
@totalinsanity87 2 ай бұрын
Nice video! Are you sticking with core box, do you think it’s enough content for a while?
@TimChuon
@TimChuon 2 ай бұрын
It is a good amount of content, but I’ve actually already gone through half the Rotas expansion boxes and have ordered Deadly Masks and more! 😂
@Farstr1d3r
@Farstr1d3r 9 сағат бұрын
I have this AND the original. They both look amazing, but I just cant get around the rug book and the learning it’s going to take to sit down and actually PLAY. Now I feel like I have to sit down and just suck it up.
@wheredoigo1420
@wheredoigo1420 Ай бұрын
MTG meets D&D. Amazing
@adam551982
@adam551982 Ай бұрын
Tim I have to say, 1 great video. Two, I wish I had your intellectual capacity to quickly learn games. I went for help from the discord community and was met with willingness to help, but a few saying just read the rulebook again. I have, twice. It's a mess and not easy to learn. I have a hard time conceptualizing games until I can see a play through. Especially ones with bad rulebooks. I want to play this game, I really do but it doesn't look like it is in the cards. Might be time for me to vacate the hobby entirely.
@BairHandSolo
@BairHandSolo Ай бұрын
hi, just want to ask between this or oathsworn? which would you recommend? im looking for my first board game and this looks cool and its not that expensive. i really like board game that has cool minietures would this be a better pick than oathsworn? is it not to complex for a beginner?
@TimChuon
@TimChuon Ай бұрын
Black rose wars and Oathsworn are both pretty complex for beginners! They’re also both around $100~ for the base game alone 😅 ultimately, if you want to play a campaign/story driven game alone, Oathsworn would be a better choice. If you want to build out lots of cards, cast lots of spells and play against an AI solo, then BRW would be a better fit~
@BairHandSolo
@BairHandSolo Ай бұрын
@@TimChuon thanks, im leanign towards a campaign type game, i like story telling games. where i live BRW is around 100 euros and oathsworn is double that price i duno why tho that kinda sucks, thankyou for the help. got subbed
@jcapo5
@jcapo5 2 ай бұрын
The rotas box is amazing. And if you have nova aetas you have so much extra goodies
@TimChuon
@TimChuon 2 ай бұрын
Ah I’ve been on the fence with the crossover content, but Nova Aetas and their campaign game look so fun! I’m halfway through the rotas box!
@jcapo5
@jcapo5 2 ай бұрын
@@TimChuon NAR is amazing. Feels like final fantasy tactics the dungeon crawler. Some of the characters have mage cards for black rose. And the monsters have summon cards and avatar cards. Hyperion expansion is what you should look at. Great black rose stuff
@TimChuon
@TimChuon 2 ай бұрын
@@jcapo5oh awesome tips thank you! I’m definitely leaning towards buying those after that 😂😂😂 do you enjoy playing with the avatars?
@jcapo5
@jcapo5 2 ай бұрын
@@TimChuon i actually haven't tried yet. I've just been playing with friends and using all the crazy summons
@ZacharyHale-cm9en
@ZacharyHale-cm9en 5 күн бұрын
What sleeves are used here?
@darkem3rald132
@darkem3rald132 2 ай бұрын
Do you know is the german distributor for this game pegaus games and do you think the basegame is enough for a start?
@TimChuon
@TimChuon 2 ай бұрын
Ah I’m not sure about the distributor, but the base game is 100% more than enough! I’d only get the expansions (you can order directly from their online shop) if you see yourself wanting to experiment with more spells!
@darkem3rald132
@darkem3rald132 2 ай бұрын
@@TimChuon okay thanks than i think i will get the retail edition :) you inspired me on that one but seems like our board game taste is pretty the same :)
@kevoreilly6557
@kevoreilly6557 7 күн бұрын
Might want to start with the price … ouch
@KMReviews
@KMReviews 2 ай бұрын
Do you prefer this over dwellings now?
@markdandridge4433
@markdandridge4433 2 ай бұрын
Oh, the burning question we all want to know.😂😂😂
@TimChuon
@TimChuon 2 ай бұрын
HAHAA! That’s a great question, but dwellings remains number 1 and if anything ever dethrones it, I will (delete my channel) jk hahahah there’ll be an entire video about it!!!!🤣🤣🤣
@dmstith
@dmstith Ай бұрын
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@daem0nfaust
@daem0nfaust 2 ай бұрын
🌹🌹🌹
@TimChuon
@TimChuon 2 ай бұрын
@sayonarakid
@sayonarakid 2 ай бұрын
🌹looks cool. but expensive XD. and very complex. the ammount of cards is insane. but is very interesting
@TimChuon
@TimChuon 2 ай бұрын
true it's a pricey game! lots of cards for sure, but those spells are epic
@Domekarl
@Domekarl 2 ай бұрын
getting card from other schools didnt feel good. i felt drawing only cards from the own school hits better synergy most of the times
@TimChuon
@TimChuon 2 ай бұрын
It’s super situational! In the game I just played, I mained nightmare for umbra development but dipped into agony for burst damage and Druidic for healing, ended up winning by taking control of the black rose room with forgotten spells! They do make fun combos that adapt to your situation
@outofit08
@outofit08 2 ай бұрын
Where is the how to play?
@Stormthorn67
@Stormthorn67 2 ай бұрын
Ready, Steady, Play has such setup and play video although I can't speak for how accurate it is.
@Sensorium19
@Sensorium19 Ай бұрын
Is this a paid promotion?
@TimChuon
@TimChuon Ай бұрын
Not a sponsored video
@captainlooney4356
@captainlooney4356 2 ай бұрын
Programming? Guess Software Engineers get an advantage.
@TimChuon
@TimChuon 2 ай бұрын
You guys would like this one 🤣
@drago939393
@drago939393 2 ай бұрын
Feel like you need to bass boos the mic, it's very tin-y and unclear.
@sechanris
@sechanris 2 ай бұрын
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@mkschultz4
@mkschultz4 2 ай бұрын
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@binnieb173
@binnieb173 2 ай бұрын
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@sachagoytia9553
@sachagoytia9553 Ай бұрын
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@settlers33
@settlers33 2 ай бұрын
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@TimChuon
@TimChuon 2 ай бұрын
@MattBillot
@MattBillot 2 ай бұрын
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@TimChuon
@TimChuon 2 ай бұрын
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