It's already the case. Government officials have used their relatives to acquire the apartments. All fake that issue of affordable housing once cartels get in on it. I have a friend on the ground who inquired about it and eventually disuaded me due to the government cartels. These are just future ghettos like in Europe and the US.

This whole program was a scam, to scheme money off the govt. they don’t care about the poor, the idea was to make money of the inflate construction prices.

Typical kenya..still 1.5M is not yet there as we call it affordable housing..but hii ishachukuliwa na wenye wamejenga😂😂

@@ayiekonjogah6483 you want @ 1500 may be wait for wheel Burrows

But the houses are not for free,,,those who are in the slums does not earn enough to buy ,,that means the poor will always remain poor

@Daf the houses are descent but let’s be realistic. You think those who are targeted (poor & middle class) would benefit from this project? Ask anyone making 20,000 - 50,000 to make the application see if they’d get allocated. Big scam

@@jayaseto so it's better the money to be looted like kemsa and send money abroad and build college apartments. In London Genius.

@@pinchesmbuche4354 what you’ve done is called a fallacious argument. More specifically a strawman argument. You have attacked a position I do not hold instead of contending with the actual argument. Tell me where in my comment did I say other forms of corruption are okay? You however have a foolish presumption that some forms of corruption are better than others. Good luck with that

Smit , Even NYS was advertised but nobody showed up , youths still say they want to be trained for jobs, let them apply first, This Africa this is Kenya , More soshiticated English don't work here , That's why professors holding offices do nothing, The money can be looted all together and no project to argue debate about ie kimorer, dams. its possible here, the fact there is something to argue about is achievement, but you still have a right of expression. That's my view , it's not what the gorverment does to you is what you do to the nation that matter s.

@@jayaseto Just do what you must do to be considered for allocation. Complain with details if allocation is done unfairly. Stop getting paralysed by analysis.

A very good idea indeed

Think as always when they sell this things is the need to refinance the next project but i do agree with you the county can form a company that has the mandate to lease and maintain them. The said company would service the loan from the affordable rents monthly

Because the project isn't financed by GOK, instead it's loans from China with very convoluted commercial interests (read here, the very politicians who are pushing the program and touting the model). The goal isn't to provide "affordable housing" since the notion of affordability is a relative one. It should have been low-cost. And that could have been achieved more efficiently through fiscal measures and incentives to developers and individuals. But that wouldn't have worked because it doesn't put money in the right pockets.

The project is funded by the private sector. The govt is only providing land to drive costs down in addition to providing the policy framework. And mortgage to those who need it. The quickest way to run down a housing complex is to give maintenance work to the govt. Let those houses be managed by the owners under Sectional Property Act. It works very well. Secondly, the govt is encouraging those who are currently paying rent elsewhere to become owners of their own houses under this program. Pay 12.5% and move in. Then pay the balance through instalments similar to the rent you were paying and start on your journey to fully own the house. There is also significant capital gain in these projects. The houses were going for 1m a short while ago. Now they are going for 1.5m. 500k capital gain even before moving in. And what did they invest? Just 12.5 % deposit ie 125k. Invest 125k and increase your wealth by 500k!!! All this while others are spending all their time complaining!!

They sell to get money for other projects

Maybe you can lighten us on a 1 bedroom that is cheaper than 1.5m

Building is not free, you know that. I wish that money would have been used on education and healthcare.

Nilithani hesabu yangu ndio mbaya lakini hii ni ufala!

@@sfa-voiceofafrica Haha shea ignorance! building ain't free we know but we have all materials needed for construction readily available all over the country so what justifies that price!

TheArtShow Then you’ll be sleeping on trees huh?

I believe it's because of the bad, bad history of corruption in Kenya. It's difficult to trust so called goverment aided housing or whatever they are calling it. But I hope this is genuine.

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Hatuna manyumba huku Kenya sasa mbona kuwe na price kama hio kwa mtu mwenye atanataka kujiendeleza??! Hio ni upuzi na ni upuzi tumeekewa na wazungu!

@@Tafarai_AMNi Nairobi peke. Enda shags ujenge nyumba ya 600k

@@Tafarai_AM Unadhani watu wa mjengo wata leta mawe na wajenge nyumba yako for free. Acha upuzi, if everything was free and everyone worked for the general good of society instead of for their own good, society will collapse. What do you think happened to the USSR

@@marcusgarvey8388 Penye mamako ako??! Naweza jenga huko na nimtombe hadi usikie penye huwa unakanyonga! Ghasia!

@@marcusgarvey8388 Watu wamjengo thafathali - "mjenga ni nini??! Free ni kuma ya mamako ndio ilikujaza upuzi

Yes better loot like kemsa and build abroad .

Banda homes ngong forest land aki me naogopa government ya kenya

Did you apply and failed, or is it that, as you sound, you were too terrified to apply, and all you are doing is to vent your baseless frustrations from a smartphone screen?

no this is a disaster ....watch

@@drwasikeokile7299 those were also disastrous

@@TheTororist yes they are

No, they are not. In the states, the projects were funded and owned by the public sector. The ones under discussion here are not only funded and constructed by the private sector, but they will also be privately owned and maintained by their owners. Let's not limit our thinking to a US framework. Let's always strive to think freely and independently so as to come up with solutions that are responsive to our needs. The govt's role here was only to provide the land and policy and regulatory framework.

It's because we are learning each n every day and if u dont complain it means either rich or your in deep state

I'm behind I've been following

1.5 is very cheap, appreciate it

That's what happens to laggards. They are charged a higher price for being slow. On a more serious note, that's what happens in housing development. The early bird pays slightly less because they take a higher risk.

If you check the overall plan there's a park and a football pitch + playground within the development.

You are wrong. The concept here is very different. Projects za states are/were government owned. Those occupying them were tenants. These ones will be owned privately. Upon completion of construction both the Government and the developer will get out and hand over the management to the owners. You appear to be unaware but apartments that have been developed and sold singly, not only in Nairobi but in virtually all urban centres have been sold in accordance with the framework I am talking about and they are clean and well managed. Stop getting obsessed with US housing projects. Think out of the box, because these Kenyan projects are not structured around US housing projects concept.

That's a very important point you are making. Lack of water has degraded the value of houses in very many cities/towns in Kenya. It becomes more critical with development of desnsely populated high rise buildings. Let there be water!

That will be the responsibility of the private owners of the flats. There will be no other "they" from without. They will pool together the service charge and pay for maintenance from that fund.

Kenya has deficient of 500,000 thousands a year. Hows the private developers going to close the gap?

@@teresiawachira1034 The gap being replaced by African Grenfell towers.

@@teresiawachira1034 imagine the govt is stepping in juu private investors wameshindwa na hii ng'ombe bado inapiga nduru hapa

@@teresiawachira1034 Kindly provide a link to the source of that Statistic. I have not been successful in getting it.

@@tommylove7 the slums is not kind but a harsh enough evidence!

They are mortgages where you can pay for your unit for up to 30 yrs, that adds up to about ksh 4,167 per month.

@@davidnjenga9440 Boss angalia hio miaka, mbona ufungwe hapo??!

@@Tafarai_AM inakaa miaka mob but you will end up owning the house. Its not the same as paying rent to a landlord and end up with nothing at the end of your stay.you may choose to pay more and finish sooner though.

@david njenga this is Nairobi, the people who make arnd 20,000 are almost exclusively casual laborers in other words their jobs could end any time. Banks won’t lend such. I’m a businessman and was looking for a mortgage but couldn’t get one as I lacked collateral. Doesn’t matter even if your making 1m a month; as long as you are not permanently employed or have collateral wewe kwisha. Unless of course it’s the govt offering this mortgage?

@@jayaseto its the government offering the mortgage. Most of this houses are built by private developers who are given land by the government and the houses should be up to set standards.then the government buys the completed buildings and lends them to citizens.

Serious?

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You have qualified your own statement - a slight mismanagement! There is no big difference between these developments and recent and not-so-recent gated apartment developments. Why should the outcomes be any different here? Once the construction is completed, the developer will get out, the govt will get out and the owners will take over under Sectional Properties Act. Why should very unique management challenges that have not been observed elsewhere arise here?

@@georgeodhiambo598 I drew a Hypothesis from known facts and figures. Clustered settlement have 100% of the time turned into gangsters den, the projects in the USA, Ponte tower in South Africa, Projects in Brazil and Columbia. While individual ownership guarantees singular ownership, Projects where humans are clustered tend to draw narcissistic individuals who will soon claim power in the given area.

@@buzzkillington1567 Kenya is solving a problem quite different from the issues you are raising. We are talking of a city like Nairobi where nearly a half of the population are living in slums. Conditions for gangsterism are stronger in the slums. Paying of rent is one of the expenses that keep the poor very poor. Ownership of a house/flat puts an appreciating asset into the hands of individuals that could help in improving the economic conditions of the poor. Clustered but planned settlements in the form of gated apartments are very common in Kenya. They are constructed, owned and managed under Sectional Properties Act. And there is no evidence to support your view that such settlements are by themselves a cause for crime. Poverty associated with some of them that have not been planned well could be a factor but not the houses themselves. These units under Sectional Property Act will be managed by their owners within a clear legal framework. I would be more concerned if they were to be owned by the govt then rented out. That's not the case here. The owners will themselves see to it that they are managed properly, because they own them. The flats will not only give them a roof over their heads, but will also provide family wealth creation through capital gain. There is just no space in Nairobi to come up with stand-alone individual units for the excluded over 50% of Nairobi's population. Sectional Property Ownership Act is the way to go.

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The owners will maintain them under the Sectional Properties Act. It works pretty well and it is not a particularly new concept. Service charge comes to mind.The management companies will have the leeway of even auctioning the flats belonging to "kichwa ngumu" flat owners who dont want to pay service charge. The law allows it and I am sure the title documents will capture the same.

Thats so 70s. Open plan kitchens are the way.

It is an open plan, even high end houses are made like that nowardays.

Clearly hauoshangi vyombo

@@meriki_d7355 n how iz dat even ur buziness 😁see ur life oooh

I agree with you. Kitchen things and living room things are different. But for a long time, the trend has been moving towards open kitchen design aka American kitchen design. It leads to a clash of interests!

Is there a cheaper alternative for the common mwanainchi at a similar location? Let me know if you manage to find one. I would be very interested in acquiring one!

They require you to produce evidence of poverty. And it is one man/woman one house. Lastly if you use the identity and details of a friend to buy, then the house will not be transferred to you for a period of at least 5 years. You might lose the house to the person you sponsored altogether. The policy framework is perfect. But regardless of any other factor, increased supply of houses in the low to lower middle class will lower rents.

Maintenance will be done by the owners through service charge. The govt will not own the flats, therefore it can't and won't manage them. The Govts core function is to create policies and regulatory framework to ensure availablity of adequate housing. The govt has not funded the construction of these houses and therefore it has no business salivating for rental income from the houses!

That's exactly what I thought when I saw the building. Meanwhile in the US these mass housing units for the poor are being demolished because they are havens of mayhem

@@zanazui so we maintain Kibera as the biggest skum in Africa. Kenya juu hoyee wheel Burrows mkokoteni Hustlers.

It’s very hard to get a decent 1bedroom for 1M... Over 80% of Kenyans are looking for affordable housing n this is just it. I feel like they have really tried. The only issue will be maintainance since it’s low cost a lot of things will be over looked.

The power to keep them clean, well maintained and organized will be in the hands of the owners. What's all this obsession of comparing low and middle class high rise residential houses in Nairobi with some ghettos in US? What is the situation in US like? Flats owned under sectional properties act have generally turned out to be well maintained and managed.

@@georgeodhiambo598 in the US they first made public housing as a way for middle class white people to have affordable housing and kept it well maintained. Then sometime later once the racial demographics changed, the government put less resources into maintaining the buildings, and unfortunately because of the concentrated poverty and crime it wasn't the best place to be. So public housing in the US got worse after government disinvestment, basically the govt didn't try to keep it good. It could have been done better if it was done as mixed income developments, and resources were devoted to maintaining the buildings. I think it's good to mix some market rate units in social housing complexes to increase integration but overall social housing is a good idea

Next time you will try again

install standby generators to supply the lifts when there is power blackouts. There are so many high rise apartments with lifts.

The flats will be purchased under the Sectional Properties Act. The owners will maintain them from the service charge. The developer will set up the Management Company and hand it over to the owners. The success or failure of maintenance will depend on how the owners shape the management companies. Generally some management companies fail because of the apathy of the owners to hold them to account.

Why?kwani walikua wanachanganya simiti na mchanga?ama kwingine walikua wanatumia woods badala ya metal rods?

Timothy Karanu I don’t mean in terms of what they used but the eligibility.by the way they built so well.they used a lot of cement and metal rods.

@@hoorulain5527 ...ok nimeelewa coz that where l was eager to know about materials but fafanua about eligibility?

Timothy Karanu I have applied with boma yangu but already they have allocated the house to pple.so definitely the houses are already gone.and here I am I have done all that was needed to be done only dint pay the 12.5% of the down payment.

@@hoorulain5527 ...uuuh...ok pole,now l get you,but may is because you didn't pay the 12.5%which was needed to be eligible,or you mean they can allocate people with contributing that 12.5% first?

Yes. I agree whole heartedly. That business of civil servants is discriminatory. Okiya Omtata should take the matter to court.

How much will it be in installment for the one bedroom per month

@@joymugambi3891 Houses were already allocated. You can't apply for these houses anymore.

You buy it in installments, you'll just pay a deposit and monthly installments like rent

How can one own one?

@@Jamaa_Flani_mzii But what @Mueni is asking is, "what will the likely rental amounts for a 1br be upon handing over"? What are the going rates for similar flats in the area? Not everyone will come in as owner/landlord or owner occuppier. There will be tenants too.

@@georgeodhiambo598 the rental prices will be determined by the new owners, I'm not sure about the prices for similar apartments near the area so I wouldn't be able to tell.

Please share the location in the city where we can buy land worth 1m. Ain't even gonna talk about building for 3m in the city.

😂😂 Tafuta shamba hapo ngara na 1m senji. Yapping nonsense.

It depends how long they can pay. This is Kenya, we are different country than Rwanda. Why has Rwandan government given people free houses in the those houses they build with m.j nobody in?

You don't get it. The govt will not own the houses, and therefore it will not maintain them. The developer will register a management company in which the flat owners will be shareholders. It is that company that will collect service charge and carry out maintenance. It is covered under the Sectional Properties Act. Most of the apartments sold over the past 2 decades or so have been sold under that Act. That is why those apartments are clean, while the ones owned by the govt are dirty. They are managed by the owners, and not the govt. Ngara Civil Servants flats are today as clean as they were when they were put up in 2006 or thereabouts because they were developed under the Sectional Properties Act and they are managed by the owners rather than the Govt.

Have you dug into the status of those who occupy the flats you have mentioned? Are the flats you are referring to in Europe/USA sectionally OWNED by people who bought them from the govt or are they owned by the govt which then rents them out to tenants? One doesn't need to quote the European/US situation as a comparison for assessing suitability of either type over the other. Kenya has both types and challenges you have mentioned are found in flats built by the govt and then rented out to tenants. The govt remains the owner/landlord so it also manages the flats. These have proven to be a disaster. The govt has neither the motivation, free hand, nor the skills to manage apartments.Then there are flats developed by public/private sector, then SOLD to owners who then take over the responsibility of managing the flats under Sectional Property Act. By and large such flats have been a success story. These flats are constructed, owned and managed under Sectional Property Act. Management will be in the hands of the owners.

Daniela Kenyans are poor this is not a viable plan even for anyone making 30k a month and with like 3kids I will not insult you like you did but please try and contain your ignorance coz it's what is taking this country down

Okay Daniela Jones I happy that my comment offended you but because we are a democracy I can voice my views regarding anything that is of public interest. Wale watu wanaishi kwa slams hawawezi kupata kipato chakutosho kulipia mradi kama huo.. Wewe unabahati ulizaliwa mahali pazuri labda matajiri but wakenya wenzako tulizaliwa kwa shida tumesoma kwa shida tumejua shida pekee... Tufanye vibarua tupate chukala cha siku kesho tutafute tena.. Kama waeza nisaidia naeza shukuru sana. Usinipe pesa ama chakula nipe kazi nifanye then naeza jilipia nyumba Kama hizo.

Why did my comment offended you though. The project is so ridiculous in every way possible.. Prices are just way too high for slam dwellers and that is why I said you were ignorant. Show me one person in kibera that can afford that. Don't be naive tembelea maskini uwajue don't say wanataka kuishi kwa cardboard like they have a choice... They don't or rather we don't. We eat once a day jioni only the rest of the day matumbo zinanguruma and the stupid government says this is for the poor.. Come on who are we kidding. Do some research go try to buy one and see.

And you should know that the comments I make are not directed at you they are simply my views on how stupid I think the whole project is... A government building caskets and selling them to poor people for a price they clearly know that they can't afford. Again not personal incase it's your video I'm not calling you stupid even though you are ignorant of the level of poverty in your country

Please give just one person benefiting from this and is moving from the slam to live there.. Come on slam dwellers can't afford this ukweli ni kua people who are buying ni watu wanajiweza... Maskini hatasaidika the hypocrisy in this government ...if they want to help the poor they should find out how much they are paying for Kwa slams then hio pesa ndio walipe as monthly payments till they can own those homes that would be helping... This project will continue coming up but the slams will still remain coz no one from the slams can afford to move there... So if it is meant to eradicate the slams then it will not work...

What's good for US doesn't have to be good for Kenya. And US is not the only example we can follow. Let's have some original thinking with solution that address the Kenyan situation. Haven't you gotten tired of "copy and paste" solutions? God gave all individuals brains. Let's use our brains.

@@georgeodhiambo598 the point is, if a country that was using this model 50 years ago is leaving it, it's dumb to employ such a concept now cuz it's not gonna work probably anywhere longterm. but, you're much to focused on thinking this is about being fixated on the west being ethnocentric that you couldn't see the point of the comment. in fact, they got this approach from the west, but you probably don't see that either.

@@orangemoonglows2692 Have you understood in detail what the US govt was trying to solve? Do you fully appreciate the model they applied - item by item? Did they have over 40%of their city's population living in slums? What was the rate of unemployment? What was the social attitude of the people who moved into those houses? Entitlement? What were their terms of occupancy? Owners? Tenants? Who bore the costs arising from pulling down the houses in the US situation? Now build on those points and carry out a cross analysis with the Kenyan situation. Cut-and- paste solutions will not work. You need to exert your brain and find solutions that are relevant to the challenges you are facing. What's good for the US doesn't have to be good for Kenya.

@@georgeodhiambo598 i don't have to build on any of those points? i already know the deal. i don't think you do. you're TRYING to miss the point and be argumenative. kenya is attempting an approached that has already failed yet there gonna do it anyway. theirs will fail too. the fact that they're using this approach shows their lack of imagination. using tired western/american housing ideas. lol. not gonna respond again.

@@orangemoonglows2692 Don't respond because you dont have an answer to any of my questions. You don't even want to try because it will remove the scales from your eyes and force you to come to terms with some unpleasant realities. The reality is that copy-and-paste method is not the way to go. It only applies to those who fear to exert their brains. What's good for the US don't have to be good for Kenya. Developing flats under Sectional Properties Act is well established in this country. There is absolutely nothing new in such developments. The only difference here is that the land was freely availed by the govt to drive down the costs. The other new development is that the mode of providing a mortgage has been heavily influenced by the govt to provide cheap and easily available long term credit. All that yapping about the US adds no value. Sectional Properties developments is already a well established practise in Kenya. Only that the lower end of the market was neglected by the private developers and govt is stepping in at policy and regulation level to change/influence it.

Mortgage my dear. You pay like 5k a month over a long period of time n eventually the house becomes yours.

How much are they currently paying towards rent? They are not staying on trees! The thinking behind these projects is to enable ordinary Kenyans to channel the rents they currently pay towards owning houses they are staying in. It is an excellent objective. In addition to that the owners of such flats will now benefit from capital gains. It is potentially transformative for those who can see beyond their noses. And free govt land is limited. Therefore such projects will become scarce as time goes by. And early movers will have something to smile about.

@@georgeodhiambo598 Lmao so naive. You the type of people our government loves. I personally know someone who now owns one of these houses (and his circle of friends too), & guess what, they are waaaaay, way above that tax bracket, multiple houses & shit. Just another piece of property to pass on to they kids, the usual corrupt shit. You genuinely think this was meant for local Kenyans? Lmaoooo

@@kevinwho. It is because you and your likes for whom the houses were meant do nothing apart from complaining. If you belong to the income bracket of those who qualify, just step forward and buy. If you don't then stay out and let those who qualify buy! Apart from complaining ceaselessly, what would be your solution to the housing crisis, particularly for the low income earners??

@@georgeodhiambo598 Did you even attempt to read my comment or did you just get a glimpse of an opposing opinion & immediately spaz. Lmao typical government sheeps. Can’t even try to read & understand what someone else says, criticisms scares you that much?

Others together with new entrants will be rolled over to other projects. Makongeni, Shauri Moyo, Railways city, etc. There is a whole 10 other estates that have been earmarked for re-developed under AHP.

Govt ikurudishie doo zako? Endelea kuota ndoto ya mchana

There are other projects usipopewa hizi or you can divert your cash to your pension fund.

Those who miss are simply rolled over to the next project or next phase of the same project.

Who told you that? Hakuna cha bure. The word was, and still is affordable. But no one is forcing you to acquire a house there. If you know of other more affordable houses in Nairobi, then just buy those ones!

unadhani kujenga ni free

And people are affording them.

A one bedroom kwanza

How much does a tin of paint cost

The govt cannot determine who your neighbours will be, regardless of where you choose to stay.

It is a good warning to the naysayers that there is money to made in these projects apart from providing housing. Those who paid a deposit if 125k early enough are already enjoying a capital gain of 500k in a few short months. That's how being smart helps people grow reach as dumb fellows complain 24/7.

How much rent are they paying now and will probably continue to pay if they don't take advantage of this programme? This programme is targeting those who are already paying rent and promising that with the same rent, you can actually own a house subject to raising the 12.5% deposit!

What math? Stop yapping on all replies. Give us facts. How much is lamd in ngara and how much is a one bedroom in ngara. If this was the suburbs, it’s different. Kenyans, always complaining and comparing. Instead of acknowledging something has been done. They weren’t targeted for specifically low income earners. Hata mtu anaearn 50-100k still struggles with rent in nrb. And they are also Kenyans. So bidii yako ikununulie nyumba juu serikali ishajenga at low cost

Umelazimishwa na nani? You have the choice to acquire a flat under this programme or you can buy another one developed differently. Just make your choice and live with it. Stop appealing to the emotions of others.

according to the standards its very affordable

Hata mi nimeshangaa 😳😳😳

So affordable

Very

Stupid

unataka ya 1000 🙄🙄

That's exactly what they're doing here!