You sir are a gentleman and a scholar and your comment shall be pinned at the top for all to see!! Too answer your question. Finland is often described as the fastest rally in the world championship - and rightly so. However, the fastest average speed in an individual special stage was recorded in 1983 in Argentina. It took Stig Blomqvist just 25 minutes 48 seconds to complete the 81.5 kilometres of the ‘Fray Louis Beltran-Valle Azul’ special stage. That’s equivalent to an average speed of 189.53 km/h! That’s around 30 km/h below the potential top speed of his Audi quattro. The most fascinating thing of all is that Blomqvist didn’t even inspect the special stage beforehand. Due to lack of time, he drove using the notes he borrowed from his team colleague Hannu Mikkola. I think the fastest Group B car when it came down to just top speed was the Toyota Celica TCT when it did the Safari and Ivory coast's rallys. The stages are do long you could afford to have top speed over acceleration.

In terms of acceleration the Lancia S4 was the quickest.

Agreed somehow you have constructed the video in a way that captures the era. Ff to minute 14 (don't you dare lol) and catch Marku Allen saying go like hell! turn up volume to max ....and hang on..

If you are talking about the era and not the rallys itself, I'd say that the Hillclimb of Pikes Peak in the USA was the last action of those awesome cars. Walter Röhrl drove up that "hill" in 10.47.08 minutes. The whole road is paved now and the record time up to date is 7:57,148 minutes. To me a legendary record and a car that was a firespitting monster driven on the brink of death by true geniuses. This video is in German but you can see the Audio S1 quattro E2 and a Peugeot in action pumping up to the moutain top. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mp6efsuZsrDYppc.html

@Jani Rantanen awesome story, thanks for sharing. Sorry about your loss. Greetings

Rip

@AstronomyToday Michael Waltrip Bristol

Pure? Maybe. Insane? Obviously.

Kids got ran over, fuck it.

"Too pure to last on this earth." And then I rolled my Quattro 15 times into a crowd of people, injuring 30 and killing myself, my co-driver, and 2 spectators. I miss Group B but I don't miss the insane danger that emanated around it.

@@SelfDestructionBroadcast whats the difference between group A and B?

Now it's oh boo hoo, there's a rope in the garage

I had to google what that was,lol.

Daniel Wayne hell yeah

Neil McCauley That just might be the best description of a race car I have ever heard hahaha

The only time I'd say "Slam my car door"

Typical Lancia hahaha.

Ford vs Ferrari haha

😁😁😁😁

Whiteboy Chris yes with a car that completely burned up leaving nothing but a frame of tubes

@@harleypickin217 the group b rally cars were actually not tube frame chassis, they were actual cars underneath all that aero

And drivers that would drive the fuck out of those car's the good all or nothing days

@@harleypickin217 the lancia had a composite chassis. So only the rollcage lasted when the chassis melted...

@Sean Price fr

They essentially did and were dying ... which is what directly led to the demise of group B

There's a clip of a guy just barely hiding behind a tree before otherwise being smashed in the face with the undercarriage of a rolling group B car. Look it up. Terrifying as Fuck

Here we go kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gb92q7aa0cnVl6c.html

@@mikepawlikguitar dosen't look like group b

@@whosdondada wash out your eyes and put your glasses back on then

Peugeot had already done enough work for a third evolution of its T16 and the Delta S4 would have had a year under its belt and the reliability problems Ironed out. 1987 would have been a great year.

The ferrari 288 would have raced there

Most of them are turbocharged tho

BOPPE TC is traction control lol

Modern rally cars dont use tc, abs or any form of driving aid

Andersng1 I’m pretty sure the wrc fiesta has abs, traction control, active diffs, paddle gears, most likely active damper control also. Toys to these beasts in comparison

@@Diesel8290 No, modern rally cars have surprisingly little technology in them, but it wasn't always like that. Up until the mid 2000's WRC cars had few regulations regarding high-tech driving aids. Most cars had ABS, TC, active diffs and active dampers etc. From 2010 up until 2015 Rally cars were mostly mechanical. Since then a few changes in the rules has allowed certain things such as active center-differential and electronic gear shifting (paddle shift).

Fabian Perez its not suprising, you just have to be in a super fast car jumping over crests....

I was terrified to hear mikkola speaking italian! (sort of)

Yet some people still dislike the video!!

Marvdogger2 1/500 dislike to like ratio is absolutely amazing. You can’t stop trolls.

In terms of reliability and being easy to drive the 205 T16 was the best and in its first evolution it did look close to its road going counter part.

That formula 1 derived turbo tho:)

Come out to an ARA rally its a good time.

Pyrus Rex, I’m American too! We are an unlikely breed, but to not know class b racing, and not to be familiar with these legendary machines is just barbaric, uncivilized, ignorant. What was Chevy giving the gen pop those days? Cavaliers, Citations and a Myriad of forgetful machines with no soul. God bless those hero’s behind the wheels of those monsters. I guess my daily driver is a WRX because of rallying

@@jimdunne3696 hey at least Ford gave it a shot at group b like the rs200 and the Ford escort rs 1700t.

As an American, I can't get into racing against a clock. Group b cars are cool though nonetheless (except for the awd)

Must have been fun driving them on public roads.Probably hard to keep to the speed limit.

I bet they are not smooth at all when going slow, but what race car is? Really love the footage where they show the crews working on the cars between the stages. Again, great video!!

German name - Walter Röhrl

Maybe "make rally great again"?

@@ILeelL Horrifically accurate, considering the "great again" is citing an era in which safety was a terrible joke and not an actual priority in any way. Also, modern WRC is a million times faster than Group B ever could be (for one, drivers don't spend that much time worrying about staying straight and not killing anyone), and the cars themselves probably share as much with their road-going counterparts as the Group B monstrosities did (safety aside, being a road car is kinda contrary to what a race car is).

Derpy 1109 you had to be there...and you clearly weren't

Michael Serato Cars nowadays go quicker

@@arjanpetersen no they dont

@@arjanpetersen they accelerate faster but have lower top speeds Also they have more advanced safety so theyre allowed

@@arjanpetersen yes BUT think if the group-B regulations were in effect today.. people don't understand that.. i was there watching Rally Finland '86 and '87.. the drop was like unbelievable.. like Markku Alen said, the cars felt there was no engine at all.. of course development happens over the years and cars get faster..

Too much Group B sounds in your headphones ey? :)

Happy new Year buddy and another quality video, loved the onboard from the S4 and Quattro, loads of unseen stuff there👍🏻

Marv just a question, can I use some of this footage in a video? Working on a bit of a cinematic, and I need a dose of Group B

Yes sir.

Happy New Year.

This is what we miss with modern rally cars, no flames. There engines are now way too efficient and have lost the rawness.

too bad many came too late to the game. would have loved to see championship battle between S4, T16 and RS200. Don't think S1 was on right track. Even Audi engineers now dare to admit this today

Gotta love the 80s, I bet cocaine drove people to these levels of madness, and I thank them for it.

@@DKLONGHORN 80s finnish rally drivers: "we can't speak whatever it is these guys are speaking but we can sure drive faster, so we'll drive faster".

Think they had two loops of keilder back in 85 and no pace notes. Henri, Markku and Tony fighting over the top three places.

Marvdogger2 I’m a bit hazy on dates but am sure you are right. I also seem to think there were other years they double looped Kielder as I can remember at least once spending two nights sleeping in the car on stage. Happy days which are now sadly long gone

CamoDrako Yup Jean Todt was a rally co driver up until 1980 and then he became the head of Peugeots Rally team into the mid 90s and then he ran Ferraris F1 team.

Marvdogger2 205 T16 GTi wouldn't have happened without him

Lexus lfa

Doing the ice notes for him.

haha hilarious

Komedi

I've been doing it a while now!! I think since 2005, Group B Crazy fans was 2007 but that no longer available to watch anymore, blocked in over 250 countries by youtube.

thanks sir.

Not only are you absolutely correct on that point, but I would argue any day that it is the GREATEST car ever made. It just is.

I know different eras but...i love the Volkswagen Polo R so much.

I would have to disagree I like the Lancia 037 or maybe the ‘84 Audi Quattro

ErikGPL the 037 is the sexiest imo

Metro my fav but that lancia is amazing

Welshboyuk76 I do like Dirt. Best game for the Group B cars.

Marvdogger2 it sure is, oh and also I have LIKED AND SUBSCRIBED ;)

If only everybody was as nice as you sir.