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A Year In Micro Four Thirds

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David Thorpe

David Thorpe

4 жыл бұрын

The last year, 2019/20 has been a strong one for the Micro Four Thirds system. I thought I'd take a look back over it with few remarks on what was actually new and what was new to me. The Panasonic S1 proved an interesting diversion but all that extra weight and cost didn't feel justified for the limited improvement, much as I liked the camera. The E-M5 Mark III mostly impressed, the big Panasonic 10-25mm f/1.7 too, though it was overshadowed for me by a Micro Four Thirds lens costing 1/19th as much! Am I mad?
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@godofhope
@godofhope 3 жыл бұрын
We miss you David
@creativeflowltd
@creativeflowltd Жыл бұрын
Here I am, wondering about what you would have said about the 2022 review yet somehow your videos feel still actual and your wisdom never gets old. Thank you. Will continue watching your videos in years to come.
@paulondra19
@paulondra19 4 жыл бұрын
1:23 "Anyone who says micro 4/3 is dead can get stuffed!" Camera quote of the year.
@chirag4
@chirag4 4 жыл бұрын
tRuE dAt
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 4 жыл бұрын
I really must stop mincing my words :-)
@paulondra19
@paulondra19 4 жыл бұрын
@@DavidThorpeMFT You better not. ;-) I love all your videos. In fact, through your recommendations, I have bought some of the best camera equipment I've ever own including the Lumix G85 ("if I had to choose one body for all my photographic tasks") and the Olympus OM-D EM10 Mark II (I never look at it without seeing it's "jewel like" quality). You da man.
@LyndonPatrickSmith
@LyndonPatrickSmith 4 жыл бұрын
He says a he buys a full frame camera ; )
@alex222alex
@alex222alex 4 жыл бұрын
A full frame camera which was referred to as disappointing.
@magnusfahlstrom3262
@magnusfahlstrom3262 4 жыл бұрын
I follow quite a few "photography channels" (not to mention other channels) and I just realised that, for some reason, your videos are the ones I look forward to the most. Nice work!
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 4 жыл бұрын
Nice to hear that, Magnus - thank you!
@driesalkemade
@driesalkemade 4 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with that!
@dr34mlucid
@dr34mlucid 4 жыл бұрын
myself included, if something on this channel catches my attention I may do further research on other channels. Otherwise I'll trust Mr. Thorpe to keep me up to date on the camera world.
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 4 жыл бұрын
@@dr34mlucid I'm flattered and embarrassed.....
@rudolfabelin383
@rudolfabelin383 4 жыл бұрын
Jag håller med!
@EKB480
@EKB480 4 жыл бұрын
Long live the Micro Four Thirds System! My favourite since 2012.
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 4 жыл бұрын
:-)
@epicengines2565
@epicengines2565 3 жыл бұрын
Stellar Work David, you as well as James Popsys are my go-to for photography knowledge. "Anyone who says micro four thirds is dead can get stuffed" LMAO one of the best things I've heard this year.
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! And they can still get stuffed!
@Seanonyoutube
@Seanonyoutube 4 жыл бұрын
Forget photography, you should narrate audiobooks
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 4 жыл бұрын
That's what my agent said, Sean :-)
@gordon4385
@gordon4385 4 жыл бұрын
IKR??
@kaiserzander6878
@kaiserzander6878 3 жыл бұрын
Instablaster
@pudellvr
@pudellvr 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely
@NoProJoe
@NoProJoe 3 жыл бұрын
I recently sold all my Canon gear and purchased an Olympus E-M5 MIII with a 14-150mm and I'm not looking back. I'm very impressed with it's performance and I love the smaller, and lighter form factor. I wish I did it earlier.
@Mir1189
@Mir1189 4 жыл бұрын
Last year i purchased new body - OM-D E-M5 Mark III, started to learn new things about digital photography and it basically reinvigorated my interest in photography in general. Recently i got myself Vario G 35-100 F2,8 II, Leica DG 25mm F1,4 its on its way... M5 Mark III is great. With the Lumix i mentioned or with my main M.Zuiko 12-40mm F2,8 i do a LOT of handheld photography, when i walk around with camera in my hand for 2-6 hours and just taking photos... Set with 400-600 grams is fine. Fullframe would not even start at 1,2 kilos... My old knowledge from the time i was using film started to surface quite quickly now. I realized that aside from buying perfect lenses (as 25mm M.Zuiko PRO surely is) i might prefer to get less perfect lenses, which on other hand have sort of personality (Leica 25mm F1.4 and the way how you can get nice vignetting without postprocessing).
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 4 жыл бұрын
Micro Four Thirds reinvigorated my photography too, taking the chore out of it. So the old skills have come back. I'm not surprised, I suppose. Digital hasn't changed the basics or purpose of photography, just the way they are accomplished. I love the old lenses with Micro Four Thirds - I'd like to have a big box of vintage lenses and adaptors and just try them all out. I just love the IQ of my old 300mm f/4.5 IFED Nikkor from the 80s. Such a a lovely look to the images.
@Mir1189
@Mir1189 4 жыл бұрын
@@DavidThorpeMFT I used to be a "purist" up to 2005. I had Practica LTL 3 with set of "Zebra" Zeiss lenses (28, 50, 135mm). After that i had to give up photography until 2015 when i got OM-D M10. I still prefer full M mode, while using AF and Metering to center, while i can utilize leveling tools or indication of over/underexposure. But anyway i still like to set things myself and learn, and most importantly remember how i got to the result. Its like falling asleep in the 60-70s (era when my original set was made) and wake up in the present. Everything is smaller, lighter, faster, zooms do not pose much of a compromise and best photos contain exif to remind how they were taken... Its more i could ever imagine.
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 4 жыл бұрын
@@Mir1189 I think it's more than any of us could have imaged and it has all happened so fast. I still think that film experience was a very useful thing, though. When each picture you take costs money you are much less shutter-happy and inclined to rely on shooting 5,000 frames to get a good one.
@Mir1189
@Mir1189 4 жыл бұрын
@@DavidThorpeMFT Still shooting in "Single" mode and I often have to remind myself, that there is no issue when using L or H sequential or ProCapture. Even whend doing multiple single shots, its usually not needed as those are way too similar. Unless its a testing session/shot i expect 90+% to be usable with minimal postprocess - usually only cropping.
@michaelhawkins1173
@michaelhawkins1173 4 жыл бұрын
Always a pleasure to listen and see all that you post especially now. For me if you enjoy the thing that do it never dies. long live all formats and all that they produce. Love the video by the way and thanks.
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Michael. Yes, photography in all its forms is a great way to express ourselves and our view of the world around us. How you get results hardly matters in the broad scheme of photography.
@TITAOSTEIN
@TITAOSTEIN 4 жыл бұрын
Another excellent video! Thanks! After so many years watching your videos, I have the clear impression of listening to a friend talking about a topic of common interest. I totally agree. I love the news and I also love some old equipment, like the 12-50 and 9-18. I also love Oly 75-300, for Birding there is nothing more compact and lightweight. MFT is perfectly suited for min. My GH5 is still my best camera, but I use my GH4 and GX80 a lot. Each has its moment. I am very curious now to try the new em1 iii.
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I have a new Olympus on the way but it'll take me a while to get to know it now that going out is becoming difficult. Strange times.
@TITAOSTEIN
@TITAOSTEIN 4 жыл бұрын
David Thorpe And I will order my em1 iii after prices drops a little and after watching your review! Greetings from the Black Forest! Times are really strange. It is very strange to walk in the deserted streets, few cars circulating and without a plane in the sky. And trying to find a positive side even in difficult situations, I like to see people walking at a slow pace, without the stress of everyday life, with more attention to consumption, and taking care of that who is nearby, taking care of the gardens, playing more with his children. Stay healthy!
@ofmetalphilosophy4837
@ofmetalphilosophy4837 4 жыл бұрын
Good to hear your voice again man.
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 4 жыл бұрын
That's a lovely thing to say, Matt. Thank you.
@boutrosboutrosboutrosboutros
@boutrosboutrosboutrosboutros 4 жыл бұрын
MFT is amazing, and DAvid's was the first photography vlog I subscribed to after the GX85 review (US name) I bought that camera before I saw the vlog but I learned so much more about it, and MFT in general. Never looked back. Got the G9 next. I was really thinking of getting the GH5 but when the G9 came out, I waited for David's review and then bought it. Less expensive than the GH5, slightly smaller and less heavy, with as much video as I needed, and then firmware V.2.0 came out and it was even more perfect. Yes I have learned a lot here. Last note, I inherited a bunch of old Nikon glass, and micro4/3 with a Speedbooster and sharp vintage glass, oh boy, what a great option. And you get a faster lense to boot! Thanks Mr Thorpe
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 4 жыл бұрын
Great to hear what you say - and much appreciated. Thanks!
@kent2000100
@kent2000100 4 жыл бұрын
It was worth the wait and always great to hear from you.
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Keith.
@glennsak
@glennsak 4 жыл бұрын
Always a pleasure to see your videos and learn of your views on cameras/lenses!
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 4 жыл бұрын
Thansk you, Shaka!
@gabl8a89
@gabl8a89 4 жыл бұрын
After buying and reselling so many micro fourthird gears in the market, 2020 is the year of milestone as I finally made my 12mm F2, 14mm F2.5, 16mm F1.4, 25mm F1.4, 60mm F2.8 Marco, 75mm F1.8, 12-32mm, 7-14mm F4 and 45-175mm PZ and GF8 body now literally free of charge. Steep depreciation now no longer my concern, I can keep clam and resume my journey in M43 realm. I also sold over hundred sets of gears and somehow promoted the system to many new users back in Hong Kong. Hope the system will thrive in 2020 and please keep uploading more videos David!
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 4 жыл бұрын
I intend to keep doing the videos as long as I can - thanks! That's a great comprehensive set of Micro Four Thirds gear you have there, all top quality too. Nice feeling when it's all paid for and you are happy with it all. I hope all goes well with you in Hing Kong. I have visited several times and loved the place, especially just wandering the backstreets in Kowloon.
@justininfrance
@justininfrance 4 жыл бұрын
I saw a documentary last year on the great Saul Leiter. He was wandering around his neighbourhood in New York with a cheap Sony compact, and on another occasion with an early Lumix. As the saying goes, it ain't the camera that takes the photos.
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, the really serious practitioners of the art are rarely concerned with the equipment. Some of the ones I know are technically inept, actually.
@drpork1360
@drpork1360 4 жыл бұрын
Oh David, our Prometheus what fire of knowledge do you bring to us mortals today
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 4 жыл бұрын
We Gods do not answer questions from mortals such as yourself, Kyle. We carve our wisdom on tablets and toss them to you earthlings below. Costs us a fortune in iPads and its really hard to find anything hard enough to scratch the words onto them :-)
@datapro007
@datapro007 4 жыл бұрын
In the midst of crisis, comes Dave's video to lift my spirits. Thank you - most enjoyable!
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 4 жыл бұрын
I love to hear that - thanks so much!
@nlanca1
@nlanca1 4 жыл бұрын
couldn't agree more!
@charliegreen1989
@charliegreen1989 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid David. I too have been using M43 for just over a year now and think it’s a cracking system. I hope it continues to be developed.
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 4 жыл бұрын
I'm sure it will, Charlie. Thanks.
@mikechen121
@mikechen121 4 жыл бұрын
I bought a GH3 years ago (obviously) after watching your videos. Thanks again for providing detailed, real world user feedback, and for taking the time to answer my questions. I'm sure lots of people have benefited from your videos just like I did.
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 4 жыл бұрын
Glad to help!
@mar_seth
@mar_seth 4 жыл бұрын
Most of my work is video rather than photography. Will soon upgrade to GH5s. Some M43 lenses are unique and precious, lightweight and... not expensive. And there's always speedbooster / mount adaptaters. Everything is possible with this sensor, it just needs some practice and light.
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 4 жыл бұрын
The GH5s should be interesting. I wonder how much better the native smaller video sensor is for noise than the 20Mp one sampled down? Panasonic know what they are doing so it must be worthwhile. Actually, for most, the GH5s sensor is plenty big enough for stills tooo.
@mar_seth
@mar_seth 4 жыл бұрын
@@DavidThorpeMFT Less Mp but bigger photocytes, which means more light to catch. There's also that double native iso feature. Its performs way better in low light, but it's trickier to use compared to classic GH5. But yeah, good enough to me for stills !
@danzbeard
@danzbeard 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent insight! Personally, I’ve had had my g85 for 4 years and still love it. It has its place in my kit, next to my full frames.
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! An excellent addition to any kit, I agree.
@mike969696
@mike969696 4 жыл бұрын
David, Your videos are really great - thanks. I wanted to share something with you and ask you one thing. I'm a decent, unexceptional photographer with about 35 years experience of trying really hard, partly because I really like and enjoy understanding the equipment and how to use it...and partly because I do actually also really love photography. I currently shoot Micro 4/3, APS/C and full frame, but enjoy M4/3 the most for size/weight reasons and because I just happen to really like the GX80. I realise the technical quality isn't quite as amazing as I can get with full frame, but nevertheless feel that most photos are taken at an unnecessarily high quality. I started using a popular stock photography site to sell images, and have regularly found that they are rejecting my M4/3 images for quality reasons. Very few of my APS/C or full frame images have been rejected, even though most of the former are only at 8MP and I believe my best 16 MP GX80 images are resolving far more detail. Do you have a view on this? Is it snobbery, or are there valid reasons they are taking this approach? Clearly it is their decision and their judgement, but I find it very surprising. What do you think?
@6rimR3ap3r
@6rimR3ap3r 4 жыл бұрын
The GX80 brought the joy of photography back to my girlfriend. Gone was the clunky 1000D from 10 years ago, replaced by a small body with so many features. It actually worked so well she just bought the Pana-Leica 100-400. For mft it feels big - but just until I had the shop guy hand me over a Tamron 150-600 which I could use on my Canon...
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 4 жыл бұрын
It's easy to forget how big and heavy FF equipment can be. The S1 reminded me!
@alangauld6079
@alangauld6079 4 жыл бұрын
@@DavidThorpeMFT Every time I attend a camera show I fondle the Sony A7 series and think its really not that different from my Olympus. Then I pick up a Sony lens....
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 4 жыл бұрын
@@alangauld6079 I love the Sony gear but as you say, it's the lenses...
@jf9979
@jf9979 3 жыл бұрын
You've got an incredible way with words. Its a joy to listen to. The comparison of the G9 to the S1 really helped sum up the real world difference. Really dont feel much need to upgrade to full frame after that.
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 3 жыл бұрын
Nice of you to say so, John, thank you.
@daviddechamps8840
@daviddechamps8840 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks David. Good to hear From you. Today i received m’y Panasonic 100-300mm for my G80. Looking forward to learning how to photograph small birds with it. A bientot.
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 4 жыл бұрын
Enjoy it, David. I hp the birds appreciate it, too. I feed them in my garden but never a word of thanks :-)
@williampegram
@williampegram 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, Mr Thorpe brought a big smile to my face three times in this video. I missed that. Thank you.
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, William, glad you enjoyed it!
@markrowley6847
@markrowley6847 4 жыл бұрын
Hello David Your review highlights essentially what you said some years ago in an interview with Frederick Van Johnson. Micro 4/3 is more than adequate for probably more than 80% of all photographic requirements and we have now reached a point where there are no bad cameras, only better. So the law of diminishing returns kicks in even further down the product chain nowadays. Image quality is pretty well a given, even for what might be considered entry level products, and it's really features like build quality and weather proofing that are the differentiators. I enjoy your no-nonsense reviews and honesty, so keep up the good work.
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 4 жыл бұрын
Hello Mark - glad you like my stuff. There is so much choice now for photographers and I know it leads people to agonise over details which will make no difference whatsoever to most of us. Reviewers get bored and look for novelty so mark down a camera that will 'only' shoot sequences at 30fps in favour of one that will do 60. Yet the reality is that 10fps is plenty for most of us. It's getting a bit like the folk who buy massive SUVs on the basis of their ability to climb mountain passes - and then use them for the school run :-)
@KevinSaruwatari
@KevinSaruwatari 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting watch again David! I'm finding myself much more attracted to older M4/3 gear than new too. The new stuff is great but it reminds me of Top Gear when they tested a later version of the Nissan GTR: it's so high performance technically, they've designed out all of the fun!
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, and the ultra technical performance that everyone looks for can be a bit of a step backwards too. I hear complaints about modern AF where it is perfectly obvious that the problem lies with the user, for example. If reliance on technology leads to de-skilling it's a shame because learning how to do things for yourself is a big part of the enjoyment.
@krsdwnt23
@krsdwnt23 4 жыл бұрын
@@DavidThorpeMFT True. I went from an em5 mk ii to sony a6000 due to autofocus reason, just to realise it's not as fun as the oly when taking picture. Now i miss my omd :(
@zayacz123
@zayacz123 4 жыл бұрын
I just got the 2x converter for my Olympus 40-150. I’ve only taken a few test shots but so far so good. It’s “slightly smaller” than a Canon 600mm. 😀 I can’t imagine carrying the Canon.
@rjkral
@rjkral 4 жыл бұрын
Poetry. In photography Wonderful stuff. 2019 is when I began using micro four thirds, partly or largely due to your reviews. I’m absolutely loving it
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 4 жыл бұрын
Great to hear that Robert and thanks for the kind words.
@johnyutzey6504
@johnyutzey6504 4 жыл бұрын
Spot on, as usual. The innovation curve flattened for me a bit earlier; I haven't upgraded from my current Panny GX85 and Oly E-PL6 (with an embarrassing selection of lenses), plus a Panny G6 to handle bigger lenses (such as the Panny 100-300). My quality threshold is an acceptable 13X19 print at ISO 3200, and all of these cameras with good lenses will do this at the margin, although I try to shoot at the lowest ISOs circumstances permit. The newer and more expensive cameras don't get me an appreciably better IQ against that standard that I can't already get with what I've got. I might feel differently if I shot video, but I don't. FF mirrorless? There is no point for me. A new lens with a 77mm filter size? That defeats the entire purpose of why I converted to M43 in the first place. Thank you, David, for articulating some straightforward sanity against the assault of the new camera marketers.
@wilkbor
@wilkbor 4 жыл бұрын
Hey, David.... I always appreciate your videos.... Keep up the good work.
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
@zumoaccessories
@zumoaccessories 4 жыл бұрын
Another excellent video from my favourite M43 KZfaqr, says it like it is. Can't wait to get notifications from you.
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, Zumo!
@zumoaccessories
@zumoaccessories 4 жыл бұрын
@@DavidThorpeMFT No problem, I've caught up with your videos now so I'm waiting with anticipation .... Can I ask you a quick question, which is the best lens to buy out of the Olympus 12-40 f2.8 or Lumix 12-35 f2.8. I'm shooting with a G9, Cheers, Del
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 4 жыл бұрын
@@zumoaccessories You wouldn't be disappointed with either. I'd say that the extra 5mm of the Olympus makes more difference than you'd expect, giving you that bit more distance from the subject for close-up portraits. The Panasonic is a lot lighter and more compact, though. Overall, the Panasonic's sharpness is similar to the Olympus but the Olympus's edges hold up better. With the Panasonic on the G9, you have the combined stabilization but the body stabilization of the G9 is so good that in practise the Olympus is just as effective without stabilization. Overall, if you can accept the extra size and weight of the Olympus, I'd buy that. If compactness is more important, the Panasonic. But, as I said, neither would disappoint.
@zumoaccessories
@zumoaccessories 4 жыл бұрын
@@DavidThorpeMFT Thanks for the reply, I think I'll end up with whichever one comes along at the right price
@JoeMaranophotography
@JoeMaranophotography 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like the G90 was the biggest let down of the year. As an owner of a G9 and G80 it's almost impossible to use the G80 a lot of the time and it's become my vlogging/Time-lapse camera pretty much!
@paulondra19
@paulondra19 4 жыл бұрын
I agree. My G85/80 definitely has a great in body Time Lapse feature. I also have an Olympus OMD EM10 MarkII and it's in body Time Lapse is not so great. However, the LIVE TIME and LIVE COMPOSITE modes in the Olympus are stellar.
@moenlighted7681
@moenlighted7681 4 жыл бұрын
G90 or g80
@aabarcellos
@aabarcellos 2 ай бұрын
Amazing work…what great videos
@billb8262
@billb8262 3 жыл бұрын
I became a M43 user this year. GX85 in August with both kit lenses. I'm a Nikon D750 shooter and now I only use the D750 for portraits. Everything else so far is M43 and my results are fabulous. No regrets. I just need faster lenses for portraits and lower light conditions and then have need for nothing else. M43 is a fantastic platform and 16MP seems all I really need. The reduced dynamic range are rarely noticed, though in a few photos could have come in handy. However, the results were still great and only I noticed. I'm sticking with the GX85 until I fill my lens lineup. If I get into M43 portraiture, I may need a larger body for speed of use when timing is everything. Controls are a bit small for that kind of rapid shooting with changing settings, which sometimes makes me move something I don't intend to. I make it work, but if habitual, I'll need a slightly larger M43 body later. Regardless, I love it. The system is great, its photos outstanding, and price highly reasonable.
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 3 жыл бұрын
Luckily there's plenty in the lineup to choose from, Bill. Nice that you're happy with it all. The G90 might fit your needs, though the G9 is at bargain prices now and with its best in class EVF, excellent for portraits.
@ricardorgomez
@ricardorgomez 4 жыл бұрын
Well done and worth the wait! Yes, the last year for m43 has been just great as was the year before that. The 10-25mm last year was just stunning. I guess for me, it was even better as I finally bought a couple of G9s for event photography. I was totally overwhelmed by how much I ended up loving them. Amazing cameras. You really nailed it about the quality of cameras the last 5 or so years. Heck, I have images in my new fashion portfolio that I did with my sold-long-ago Canon 5D MKII that I bought 7 years ago. I even have images with my slightly older and even less capable Canon 50D APS-C camera in my portfolio. At least the image quality from digital cameras was enough even cameras more than 10 years old! Put a good lens on them and you're good to go. I got an iPhone 11 last year which was upgraded from an iPhone 5. It was a revelation. The camera is phenomenal. I took a picture last weekend in almost sheer darkness. But you wouldn't know it. The quality is fantastic. I did a shot of a bridge in the evening. It looked absolutely beautiful and as you mentioned, works perfectly well for Social Media needs. Wishing you a very successful and happy 2020!
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 4 жыл бұрын
And to you, Ricardo! The technology now is stunning but I think we're beginning to take it for granted. The 10-25mm zoom sounds ideal for your needs. The smartphone cameras are so clever, so much AI going in to processing images that belie the tiny sensors making them. I wondr when that technology will filter through to 'proper' cameras.
@ricardorgomez
@ricardorgomez 4 жыл бұрын
@@DavidThorpeMFT I agree. Still needs some work though. The Portrait mode on my iPhone looks amazing. But there is a bit of 'artificial' look to it. But it's very close to being perfected. Yes, if they can make low light that performance that good in that tiny sensor, it could be changing in a normal camera. I think a $1000 can be just as good as a $3000 camera. But, I know the AI takes a good deal of processing. But I don't think it's that far away. I really love the 10-25mm f/1.7. If I get that and the 50-200mm f/2.8, I'll be pretty much done. The 12-60mm f/3.5-5.6 does a decent job with some good experience. Keep up the great work!
@peterblackthorne1262
@peterblackthorne1262 4 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy your videos. It was one of your videos years ago that first put me on to micro four thirds cameras. What I can't understand, is why camera reviews seem to always compare different format cameras to each other. Cameras are just tools. You don't see car reviews comparing compact cars to mid size cars or small SUV's to larger models. They all have their pros and cons depending on who you talk to. I think we should only be concerned with what works for yourself and not what other people choose to use. Sorry I guess I'm just venting. Thank you for another good video and stay safe.
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Peter. There really aren't any bad cameras around today, it's a matter of picking the best for your own purposes. A big Nikon DSLR would be fine, great cameras I could use it well enough. But I wouldn't use it because the size and weight are a burden and I'd get no pleasure. Where with my Micro Four Thirds, well I hardly know I have them with me sometimes and I enjoy them. And they do the job to my requirements with ease.
@svtuna
@svtuna 4 жыл бұрын
Really enjoy your posts David. I can't credit you with my switch from Canon FF to Lumix, but you eloquently put into words what I've experienced along the way. Well done.
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 4 жыл бұрын
Nice to hear that and thanks, Chris.
@hisownfool1
@hisownfool1 4 жыл бұрын
What a treat to discover your channel. I recently decided to dive in more deeply into photography. Looking around on eBay, I found wonderful deals on a Panasonic Lumix GF-2 and 14-24 lens. I am enjoying it very much. It is more than good enough for this rank amateur for around $110 USD.
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 4 жыл бұрын
If you have an eye for a picture, the GF-2 and standard zoom will serve it well. If you don't, even a Leica M10 won't help you.
@markjohnston3434
@markjohnston3434 4 жыл бұрын
If you're mad, that makes two of us! Aided by your 2013 review I bought the 12-50 in November as a good all round zoom (that importantly didn't trombone). It goes everywhere on my precious EM10Mk2 and I love it!
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 4 жыл бұрын
It's the closest thing to an all in one lens I know - given the in body stabilization on Micro Four Thirds cameras these days, out and out speed matters less and less for everyday picture taking.
@Hoggdoc1946
@Hoggdoc1946 4 жыл бұрын
I agree I really dislike zoom lens that "trombone" . To me it just looks cheap.
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 4 жыл бұрын
@@Hoggdoc1946 Trouble is, it is optically necessary to get enough movement to make the zoom elements do their work, I'm certain no maker would do it for preference.
@johngiffen7262
@johngiffen7262 4 жыл бұрын
Love your reviews sharp to the point , valid and fair keep them coming cheers
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, will do!
@ffilimon47
@ffilimon47 4 жыл бұрын
While I am an amateur, though an owner of m43, I am here mainly for the narrative. Definitely great stuff, as usual!
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 4 жыл бұрын
Very good of you to say so, Florin, thanks!
@sjdown100
@sjdown100 4 жыл бұрын
Another great review David.
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Stephen.
@bandofbros8112
@bandofbros8112 4 жыл бұрын
Bought the panasonic 10-25mm as my main lens, it now lives on my G9 (which got the awesome 10 bit update). It's like the perfect focal range for my use. (20-50mm FF, so you have that ultra wide goodness but also the range for more detailed shots and portrait photography.
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 4 жыл бұрын
That update really was comprehensive. More on the lines of Olympus, where the firmware upgrades give you a mark #+ ½!
@johntalbert1696
@johntalbert1696 4 жыл бұрын
Thank You for doing your videos, I enjoy them very much!!
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you like them, John! Thank you.
@bongkem2723
@bongkem2723 4 жыл бұрын
upgraded to a FF, it's mind blowing, the DR, AF, color accuracy is just on another league ! M34 has the size advantage though which makes a big diff sometimes.
@maxdistortion
@maxdistortion 4 жыл бұрын
i LOVE this video for so many reasons, very well spoken as always! You got great images , I was suprised the most with the f2.8 zooms, better background seperation than I was expecting. I sold my 35-100mm F2.8 in favor of an Olympus 75mm F1.8. Its my new favourite lens in my arsenal. At any rate, wonderful video and godspeed
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Max - love that handle! I maximise the background separation by shooting at the long end of the zoom and framing tightly so that I am as close as possible to the subject. The 75mm Olympus is probably the best lens in Micro Four Thirds for shallow depth - obviously why you bought it - and like most Micro Four Thirds lenses, can perform at its best wide or nearly wide open. A great portrait lens but good for many more subjects.
@dr34mlucid
@dr34mlucid 4 жыл бұрын
I got that swiss army knife lens for my dad for his birthday, he loved it. However, I use it when he isn't... I have grown quite fond of it.
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 4 жыл бұрын
Something about it, isn't there. It ain't pretty but it does the job.
@dr34mlucid
@dr34mlucid 4 жыл бұрын
​@@DavidThorpeMFTthere is.... This coronavirus.. Probably will make any camera companies think twice about investing, or any companies, in any industry...
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 4 жыл бұрын
@@dr34mlucid In the UK, the exchange rate will make them unaffordable.
@dr34mlucid
@dr34mlucid 4 жыл бұрын
@@DavidThorpeMFT eeek... yeah, I just saw what happened to the pound...
@subliminallyinc
@subliminallyinc 4 жыл бұрын
3:03 to my eyes the G9 sample is sharper in detail vs the S1. Are the samples revered here?? i cannot believe my eyes! Is this due to a difference in DOF at similar apertures.
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 4 жыл бұрын
It is definitely correctly labelled. Almost certainly due to the DoF - I wanted to keep both the foreground and background tolerably sharp. It's only at the pixel peep level I used there that the tree would look softer. At normal levels they G9 and S1 are indistinguishable.
@robtt997
@robtt997 4 жыл бұрын
Good to have you back.Missed your videos
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 4 жыл бұрын
Nice of you to say so - robtt, thank you.
@davemil716
@davemil716 4 жыл бұрын
I noticed you use Panaasonic lenses on Olympus and vice versa. I have all Olympus bodies and lenses, but am intrigued by the GX85 rather than the PenF. Mainly because of price. Thanks for the great gear videos. I certainly has helped me over the past couple of years...
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 4 жыл бұрын
I mix and match my Olympus and Panasonic equipment without a second thought. Maybe on the outer reaches of fast burst shooting the Panasonic DfD makes a difference but for normal use it's marginal if any difference. There's the dual stabilization advantage with some lenses but again, I find that marginal since the IBIS alone is plenty good enough on all the later Micro Four Thirds cameras. I'm bucked to hear that my videos have been helpful to you - thanks!
@malcolmlawrence3169
@malcolmlawrence3169 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks David - another great video! I love my mft gear and it’s been great to see Olympus lately thumbing their noses at the doubters with 2 new cameras in quick succession. Stay healthy. At least we ca keep our social distancing with our telephotos. Best wishes to you and your family. Malcolm
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 4 жыл бұрын
Hadn't though of that - all portraits on 300mm lenses until the virus has gone :-)
@malcolmlawrence3169
@malcolmlawrence3169 4 жыл бұрын
Ok Douglas go across the road and stand in front of Mrs Wilson’s house and I’ll take your portrait. Oh my god, what is Mrs Wilson doing!
@Paul_anderson_creative
@Paul_anderson_creative 4 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed, as always.. every line a gem. Especially about 'if a viewer pixel peeps the image has no impact'...
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, paul!
@johnrichards3773
@johnrichards3773 4 жыл бұрын
great video. I had viewed many of your video's before purchasing a Panasonic a few years ago. works great thank you
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 4 жыл бұрын
Great to hear! Thanks, John.
@andrelloyd4010
@andrelloyd4010 4 жыл бұрын
Great video as always - Happy snapping David ! 🙏
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! You too, Andre!
@peterpulpitpounder
@peterpulpitpounder 4 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love my Olympus em10ii micro 4/3 camera, especially when doing still photography, and how I can adjust the picture in the view-finder "exactly" as I wish using older, manual focus vintage lenses, and with amazing results. Any recommendations on the best upgrade at this point is appreciated, as I would like to do so at some point.
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 4 жыл бұрын
The 12-40 f/2.8 is as good as a standard zoom gets. That's probably the one to go for. Or, as a great all rounder, the Panasonic 14-140mm.
@briandipierro8865
@briandipierro8865 4 жыл бұрын
I've got a GX85 and I'm STILL really wanting to upgrade to a G9 or G90 and I definitely think it'd be worth all the improvements.
@raksh9
@raksh9 2 жыл бұрын
Did you end up getting a G9? I have the GX85 and G9, and the G9 is real level above the GX85 in many ways.
@joec.1030
@joec.1030 4 жыл бұрын
A David Thorpe Day!!!👍🏻📷✌🏻
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Joe!
@martinedman2391
@martinedman2391 4 жыл бұрын
I've been using my GX800 with the standard kit lens 12-32 for a while now. I have to say, I use it more than I used my Leica M3 or other cameras in the past. The results often exceeds my expectations and I don't need to edit the pics all that much. I do want to expand into the Leica lenses eventually but I love the compact feel and straightforwardness of it. It feels like taking photos and not handling a complex machine.
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 4 жыл бұрын
It's a minimalist combo and we are used to thinking that small and easy too use means somehow less good. I thoink a lot of us got a surprise when we first saw what Micro Four Thirds could do.
@dons_trains
@dons_trains 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the Vid. I have always had canon 1 series bodies for work. about 2 years ago I added 2 em1m2's and a bunch of oly pro glass. I had so much fun taking photos I could hardly put the em1 down. I only ever used the em1 in the studio once. it didnt do what I wanted and just wasnt the same as the 1dx or my 5dm4. So my very costly experiment with M43 was over but well worth it. I rediscovered the love of photography confirmed my tool box was right for me to begin with. The em1's are gone and I miss them every day. If oly just got the old OM1 body and put a fullframe sensor in it I would sell everything and change over that day. (my first work camera was an OM2)
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 4 жыл бұрын
Equipment works for you or it doesn't and if you are earning your living with it cost and convenience - and fun - have to be secondary to the needs of the job. If Olympus could put a FF sensor in an e-m1 and keep the lenses the same size... Wow! What a shame about the laws of optics!
@dons_trains
@dons_trains 4 жыл бұрын
@@DavidThorpeMFT Its nice to dream. Mostly I wish I could buy a pro body and not pay for video.Its a feature I never asked for.
@videoguyla
@videoguyla 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for another wonderful video. Would you please answer a question for me. I am very interested in the 12-50 Oly Power Zoom Lens. Can the Panasonic Image App control the zoom on that camera. I used to have a working ZS50 and the remote control of the zoom was great when shooting humming and other birds in the garden. Thank you.
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Anthony. Yes, the power zoom works well with the Image App. Can't say i'm ikely to find any humming birds in my garden, though. It must need a good fast shutter speed if you wanted a shot with the wings frozen.
@videoguyla
@videoguyla 4 жыл бұрын
@@DavidThorpeMFT Thank you, David, I use normal video and 120fps video for the Hummingbirds. I also have use 8K photo so shutter speed is flexible. Take a look at this video kzfaq.info/get/bejne/htxyjbudzNLPY2g.html
@amanieltekie5873
@amanieltekie5873 3 жыл бұрын
Hello David..have a Panasonic dmc-gx8...yesterday after removing it from case...one of the focusing knobs just popped off..with the spring inside as well...is this normal wear and tear? Still brand new condition...
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 3 жыл бұрын
No, that shouldn't happen. Time to contact Panasonic, I'd say.
@tutelarius
@tutelarius 4 жыл бұрын
Just had my first day with the GH5S + Leica 12-60. Finding the controls generally intuitive but lots more to learn. Bought your GH5 menu book - hopefully the S is similar enough...
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, they are fundamentally the same camera so the book should cover most aspects. The GH5S has some specialist stuff that I wouldn't be qualified to explain even if I did a book on it! Video is a whole new world and one I enjoy immnesely.
@Alexrocks1253
@Alexrocks1253 4 жыл бұрын
That G9 update made me keep it instead of getting a GH5 for video. Such a great autofocus update
@ilanhoward
@ilanhoward 4 жыл бұрын
Alexander Crocker too bad we didn’t get an autofocus update for the G80 not an auto ISO update requested so many times
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, it was more the sort of upgrade that Olympus does, halfway to a new camera. Very welcome.
@Alexrocks1253
@Alexrocks1253 4 жыл бұрын
@@DavidThorpeMFT indeed!
@ilanhoward
@ilanhoward 4 жыл бұрын
David Thorpe Many of us have contacted Panasonic marketing in forums, emails and Facebook requesting to upgrade the auto-iso in the G80 to be more intelligent like all other cameras. They acknowledged, but it was never deployed as a FW update.
@Leptospirosi
@Leptospirosi 4 жыл бұрын
I've been using m43 exclusively since 2015 so I had little reference outside until the last month. I bought an X100V because I had been heavily disappointed by the new mklll cameras and the bloated new PanaOly lenses. I dont feel fuji products as "well built" the x100 doesn't hold a candle to my penF and the thought "overpriced" came instinctive holding the camera in my hands. Then I took a picture of the building in front of my house (we are all locked at home where I live). The detail retention and the lack of noise in the shadow was mind blowing compared with what I was used to. What is currently killing m43 is the sensor, the only one they are using now: not the size, but the obsolescence of the technology compared with what other companies brought up in the last years, and it is a very shallow step compared to their previous 16Mp one. The cameras I own can produce as good images as they always have, but the new m43 doesn't bring improvements except I the autofocus department, which to me has always been good enough. I'm not buying again in the m43 system unless they seriously improve image quality. The lenses are stagnating (I have all the prosumer primes and a 12-40) and they keep producing glasses as large as FF equivalent instead of revising old ones which have been around for 8 years . For the price of the panaleica f:1.7 zoom I could buy a FF body with a good f:4 zoom which produces about the same picture at the same bulk. The only lens worth considering in the last 3 years had been may be the new Panaleica 25mm II with weather sealing but is too little to invest any more in the system. They either upgrade their sensor noticeably or they will become even more marginal in the shrinking photo market
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 4 жыл бұрын
The 20Mp sensors are made by Sony, I believe and will simply be a smaller cut of their FF ones. It's all the same technology and the Micro Four Thirds version simply exhibits the characteristics of a smaller sensor, as one would expect. The bigger lenses, it's not as if makers stop selling the alternatives. The fact is with Micro Four Thirds is that you accept some limitations in return for some advantages. For folk for whom IQ is the be all and all of their work, I don't see why they would buy Micro Four Thirds anyway. My own preference in that case would be for medium format. The last figures I saw didn't show Micro Four Thirds losing it's market share, just losing along with all the rest. Anyway, you (we) are lucky in that with so many and such variations of camera available we can pick something almost perfect for our needs. Image quality isn't at the top of my requirements - it wouldn't be for any editorial photographer for whom the image is all. My favourite photograph of all time wouldn't get a second look today, being not very sharp at all.
@Leptospirosi
@Leptospirosi 4 жыл бұрын
@@DavidThorpeMFT the 20 MP sensor is not a Sony tipical cut out: for example some have phase detection, some do not, and it is something that has to be backed in the printing process. Also, all the Sony sensors (those used in cameras) a have been BSI (backside illuminated) for at least 3 years, something the 20MP sensors are not. In 2020 they are on the verge of obsolescence form a technology point, and yet, we just saw Olympus launch their 3 top of the line cameras with the same old stuff (and Panasonic none at all) , showing that there will be nothing new coming in for the forseable future. Panasonic is investing in Full Frame and Olympus has no money to push new sensors (actually Sony let you design your own sensors or sells you old technology, as you see in Canon 1inch point and shoot). Sharp tried to produce their own 8k m43 sensors (in 16/9) but probably had hit a wall since nothing has been said about it for at least a year. The future of m43 is at least shady imo and Olympus has both feet well embedded in it with no money and a red income for at least 3 years.
@chcomes
@chcomes 4 жыл бұрын
@@Leptospirosi I think you read too many forums and show some fear of missing out. the current 20mpx mft shows about 2 stops more noise than something like the sony a73 or pana s1. about 1 stop more than fuji xt3. go to dpreview and look at the comparison scene. the effect of bsi in sensors bigger than 1" is quite small, and silicon efficiency (the real sensor) has flattened out. Miracles not expected- a lot of the IQ is now handled by the circuitry and read noise, not the sensor. look at dual native ISO performance. On top of it, different cameras will expose differently so ISO 200 in one is diff to the same ISO in the next camera. to finish off, T stops do vary from F stops and that change perception, too. Summary: I agree to disagree, the sensor is ok in my opinion
@Leptospirosi
@Leptospirosi 4 жыл бұрын
@@chcomes dude: I have here in my hands a Gx9 a pen F, a EM5mkll and a Fuji X100V plus a Cano 5d MKII: I simply state what I'm seeing and the progress in the new sensors is huge. I really was hoping for something new with the Em1mklll which I wanted to buy, but after the delusion of the EM5mklll Olympus came out with another clone of the same camera. I'm a bit salty if you know what I mean but I'm strictly speaking from FIRST HAND experience, not something coming out of the ass of Tony Northrup. I couldn't believe how lagging behind is the whole m43 system compared with similarly priced products on the market when I saw it on my monitor
@chcomes
@chcomes 4 жыл бұрын
@@Leptospirosi i am sure the sensornin the fuji is the best of the lot... but then again fuji is known to play with the isos to make them look cleaner than they are (i.e. same scene same apterture, same speed, fuji may ask for a higher iso). or not, i dont have those cams so your practice trumps my theories probably. anyway they are expensive gear so being unhappy with them is a sign to move on I guess. just not for me, mft is already the biggest i want to carry
@chrisklugh
@chrisklugh 4 жыл бұрын
I love how m43 made me think about doing photos other people tend to do with their FF. It forced me to do something Unique and made me a better photographer. Examples of my work can be found on Facebook page: Kelownas Good Stuff. But also my page is open to the public and has more examples: Chris Klugh
@anstef1485
@anstef1485 4 жыл бұрын
Agree with most of what you said. You must have gotten a good sample of the 12-50 zoom. Mine produces crappy shots wide open and has been upstaged in everything but weight by the 12-40 pro. Got a G9 this year (great sale early 2020, did not take a second look at the EM5 III; still have my EM5 I...); competition was EM1 II which was kept very expensive by Olympus who do not understand how to do a real sale ($100 off will not cut it for a $2000 lens or body).
@paultaylor5513
@paultaylor5513 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Thanks David.
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it, Paul, thanks!
@PeterVlutters
@PeterVlutters 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice again my MicroFour Thirds Oracle.. Thanks for your advice on no name batteries... Love my G9 but it also raised my appreciation for my „old“ GX8 GX8 and Lumix 25mm 1,7 what a lovely combination for Street Photography... Hope Panasonic come back to sense... And bring a successor The GX9 should be named GX90 Thanks David 👍
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 4 жыл бұрын
Cheers, Peter!
@grantw7
@grantw7 3 жыл бұрын
My first 4/3 camera is currently in the mail via eBay. I enjoyed what you had to say here. As a newbie can you explain why you like your 12-50 lens when the kit lens (which is shipping) is a 14-42? Thanks.
@Harrzack
@Harrzack 3 жыл бұрын
Very enjoyable listen! I’m a new G9 owner after 8 years out of Nikon photography. I’ve been startled by soft little ‘click’ of the MIRRORLESS (!) shutter release.
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yes and with the e-shutter you can choose your shutter sound or silence if you wish.
@Luigiz28
@Luigiz28 4 жыл бұрын
The whole "Is M43 dying" is complete bull. Coming from learning photography on a Nikon D5300 (fantastic camera), then upgrading over time to a D750, then downsizing to a Em10 mark I two years ago, I can say from true experience that this format is more than capable in any type of photography. I enjoy the system so much that I recently sold off some unused Nikon gear to purchase the new Em5 mark iii which I absolutely love. I simply enjoy shooting with the system and some of my favorite images I've made over this past year has come from my Olympus. M43 may not be for everyone, but that's why there's so many other amazing camera choices nowadays.👍
@peternumber19
@peternumber19 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent perspective, thanks. My 14-150 lens is an almost permanent fixture, 12-200 is appealing. Upgrade to om5m3 from om10m2 planned for improved focusing, sensor size and usb battery charge.
@johnsmith-gs4qf
@johnsmith-gs4qf 4 жыл бұрын
Wide to super telephoto (nice lens to have).
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it, thanks. I've been trying to get hold of a 12-200 to review. Very appealing all in one lens but I have a feeling it might be a bit overly ambitious in its zoom range.
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, a nice trick for keeping static subject interesting in video.
@JeevesTCW
@JeevesTCW 4 жыл бұрын
Always entertaining David & the anticipation of one of your videos is like waiting for the next episode of Game of Thrones (well without the Dragon Queen maybe). I do apologise however as I must have fallen asleep toward the end & dreamt you heaped high praise on the Oly 12-50??? Please tell me I am wrong about this.. ;-)
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 4 жыл бұрын
It's not pretty but it is just so useful. A bit like my wife says about me, except for the useful bit.
@JeevesTCW
@JeevesTCW 4 жыл бұрын
@@DavidThorpeMFT haha :-)) stay safe & well David
@Centauri27
@Centauri27 4 жыл бұрын
"Price, plastic, and panache": those do look like three strikes against the E-M5 Mk III. But they wisely dropped the price $200 soon after launch, and that's when I struck. I was sorely disappointed by the plastic construction initially, but soon I stopped noticing it. Finally, I think it has plenty of panache as it's drop-dead gorgeous and so well designed!
@androidgameplays4every13
@androidgameplays4every13 2 жыл бұрын
3:04 Why do I find the G9 more sharper and appealing than the S1? shouldn't a full frame camera take sharper stills? I am just beginner trying to learn from the amazing content in this channel.
@bigbarkingdog2010
@bigbarkingdog2010 2 жыл бұрын
David Thorpe . . . "Telling it like it is . . . as per always . . . "
@systemanaturae105
@systemanaturae105 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed with everything you said. I have a G9 and an EM1 Mark ii. And a wide variety of M 4/3rds lenses although more Panasonic / Lumix / Leica as I started with the GH4. I also have the JJC cover for my 60mm macro - worth putting a fine smear of silicone grease on the plastic mechanism to allow smooth extension of this lens hood out from the lens body. I also have found that the Samyang 100mm macro lens works exceptionally well on the Olympus giving a sharp macro photo of insects that fly away if you get too near. My only issue with micro 4/3rds is the lack of a current super telephoto lens. Although a reasonable lens for the price the Panasonic / Leica 100mm - 400mm has a problem with the zoom mechanism which is far to stiff and jerky particularly in hot countries. And suffers slightly on sharpness at the 400mm max extension. Oh well just have to wait for the Olympus 150mm - 400mm with built in x1.25 teleconverter and use with the MC-20 x2 teleconverter !!!
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 4 жыл бұрын
I'll try the silicon grease - good though, thanks. The Olympus lens, interesting but I wonder at what price? My 100-400 had a very stiff zoom mech - I thought they'd have cured that by now. The zoom on the 50-200mm is silky smooth so Panasonic know how to do it when they want.
@AmbercoolPhotography
@AmbercoolPhotography 11 ай бұрын
Pen F is one of the best. If the Pen F II had upgraded autofocus, I'd probably use that for another 10 years.
@nicolebelleville5353
@nicolebelleville5353 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dave for the Olympus 12-50 recommendation. Just picked one up min used for $144 shipped!
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 4 жыл бұрын
Silly price for this lens. Looked at objectively, it's just worth more than that. But if they are happy to sell, you are sure happy to buy!
@bobrose7900
@bobrose7900 4 жыл бұрын
Great video and commentary. I like the Olympus system but everyone tells me to avoid it. But, the pictures speak for themselves, the lenses are great as well as the bodies. Usability comes to mind.
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 4 жыл бұрын
I don't know why anyone would say to avoid the Olympus system. It and Panasonic and as good as one another - meaning very good on any terms - and the choice between them boils down to quite small things. So, for example, if you must have 60fps 4K, video you'll need a Panasonic. If you major on high speed sports, the Olympus will suit you better. If I were going to have one camera only and someone gave me equivalent Olympus or Panasonic models, I'd be happy to stay with either. The fact is that there is no bad camera in Micro Four Thirds, just one more suited to your needs than another. Usability is personal and that's the main reason I'd use to choose between any Micro Four Thirds models. Oh, what the heck, just buy one of each 😆
@ScrattleGG
@ScrattleGG 4 жыл бұрын
It has been a while since your past lens review. Could you tell me the 2-3 favourite lenses for the pana bodies in order? Is it the 12-35 and 35-100 combo maybe with 100-300 on top? Maybe you prefer 15mm 25mm 42.5mm primes? I'm currently sitting at the 12-60 kit, 20mm f1.7 and some vintage lenses for fun but want to expand and I'm not sure what route to go. The 14-140 seems like a great be all lens but it is clearly mostly for outdoors in good lighting. Thanks for the content. Enjoying it greatly
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words. The photo industry is at stand still right now so getting hold of stuff is difficult and I can't afford to buy it all. I'm a big fan of the 12-40mm Olympus Pro zoom so that would have to be there. Also the 8-18mm Panasonic. and the Olympus 40-150 Pro is a great - and unique lens. My regular do it all outfit is 8-18mm, 25mm f/1.4 Panasonic and 35-100mm f/2,8 Panasonic. If I don't mind a bit more weight, I'll swap the 35-100 for the 40-150 Pro. So I suppose they'd be my favourites overall. The 14-140 has its limitations but is just so very handy and hassle free.
@ScrattleGG
@ScrattleGG 4 жыл бұрын
@@DavidThorpeMFT I greatly appeciate it! I see so many praise the 8-18. Maybe I'll give it a go. I just like the longer focal length for people but I guess the 35-100 fills that gap. It is funny how the 12-35 and 35-100 would be fantastic to cover a lot of range looking at specs; but not a whole lot recommend them (jordan drake e.g.)
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 4 жыл бұрын
@@ScrattleGG You're welcome. The range of 12-100 covers the vast majority of serious photo work, I think. But I do like the super wide perspective so the 8-18 covers that. The trouble is, there's such an overlap with a 12-35. An 8-18 plus a 25mm fast prime covers the gap and gives you some dim light capability in hand. There's always the 7-14mm zooms but neither take filters and 8-18 covers a range that means you rarely need to take it off - for me at least, who regards 17mm as a standard lens.
@Lucas16IDK
@Lucas16IDK 2 жыл бұрын
Hey David if you don't mind asking me what year were you born?
@chirag4
@chirag4 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you SIR
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 4 жыл бұрын
Most welcome, Chirag!
@steveschnetzler5471
@steveschnetzler5471 4 жыл бұрын
Totaly agree. I got a S1r and rarely use it, and never far from home. Love the 150Mp images, but I rarely need that. Mostly it is the G9 and 4 lenses in my bag.
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, it comes down to practicality in the end, doesn't it? Great big images come at a price that isn't worth paying sometimes. Nice to have an S1 for when you want it, though and it matches the G9 perfectly.
@sebastianligueno
@sebastianligueno 4 жыл бұрын
I love your video production. In your blog description, the final "t" is missing. Thanks for videos
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Sebastian! I'll check the missing T, thanks again.
@MrSonicAdvance
@MrSonicAdvance 4 жыл бұрын
The G90 video crop was the deal-breaker for me. But I can see it sealing the deal for other people, particularly twitchers, who would benefit from the zoom/crop.
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, it's an ill wind, as they say. For me, the crop is a pain.
@MrJaomul
@MrJaomul 4 жыл бұрын
The Olly 12-50mm is definitely underrated I'm my opinion. Of course you need to be realistic due it's aperture, but it does lots well
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 4 жыл бұрын
Yes and of course it doesn't cost an arm and a leg. And as I said in my original review of it, while it is true that f/6.3 isn't fast, its the same speed as any other kit zoom at 42mm. so 50mm is a bonus.
@fredio54
@fredio54 4 жыл бұрын
Laughed out loud 2 or 3 times while watching this, thanks for the entertainment :-)
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@cameraz99
@cameraz99 4 жыл бұрын
Nice Telecaster!
@ridealongwithrandy
@ridealongwithrandy 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for kind comments David :)
@daltonramsey9585
@daltonramsey9585 4 жыл бұрын
I am a graduate of natural resources college program and spend much of my time outside. I like to use photos to share wildlife and educate others on wildlife. I prefer to take as little as possible. As someone on a budget, I bought a used Canon 70D and a used 400mm 5.6 prime. If I had the money, I would go with an Olympus micro 4/3 setup and the 300mm prime, add a macro and portrait lens and call it a day. I had a Lumix G85 for a while and loved it but had to return it to the store due to an issue with the screen hinge. I loved the images I got with that camera and loved the portability. I'm going to continue to save and eventually invest in a micro 4/3 system for wildlife photography.
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 4 жыл бұрын
There are some bargains around, the E-M10 Mark II among them. Very compact and very effective. Your 400mm would make a very good roughly f/4 300mm for it with a Metabones or other speed booster. It's work well with a simple £20 Canon->MFT adaptor, too.
@daltonramsey9585
@daltonramsey9585 4 жыл бұрын
@@DavidThorpeMFT I almost bought an E M10 Mark II and Mark III. $450 for the II and 500 for the III at my local best buy with the kit lens. BH Photo has the II body only for $350 if I remember. Maybe I will pick one up and try with the adapter like you mentioned.
@daltonramsey9585
@daltonramsey9585 4 жыл бұрын
@@DavidThorpeMFT sir, my situation has changed. I returned my canon 400mm 5.6 due to a large amount of dust inside of it that I felt reduced contrast. I still have my canon 70d, but I have to decide what to do moving forward. I liked the sigma 150-600c I had for my Nikon. They're on sale for $900 atm, but the sale ends in a couple days and I may not have my refund for 10 days or so. I have about $1,000 when the refund hits my bank. I can either try to get another 400mm, find a 150-600 on sale for the $900, or switch to m43. I can sell my 70d to make some money back. I'd need a body and a lens or so. Any suggestions? I still have a spare battery that's unused for a G85 but I don't want to make a purchase based on that. I considered grabbing an em10 mkii and the 75-300 ii but wasn't sure if the softness at 300mm will be an issue. Looking forward to your input.
@bjnslc
@bjnslc 4 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing the Oly hood is smoother and easier to slide. My JJC is very, very stiff to operate. But it works at a non-Leica price.
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, it's the price! The JJC is a long way from smooth but it keeps out the stray light for us cheapskates :-)
@AWStudiosWA
@AWStudiosWA 4 жыл бұрын
What are those black/red pieces attached to the neck band hoops called ( at 1:25 for example), and why are they used over a permanent neck band? I see them quite a lot in different videos and have been looking around for them with no success
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 4 жыл бұрын
Quite a few people ask! They are Peak design strap attachments. You put them on the camera and they make a quick release/fit for a camera neck or wrist strap. You can use your own strap or buy Peak Design's own. Very useful and practical. They are here on Amazon UK amzn.to/2QoX9la but I'm sure Amazon Sweden has them too.
@AWStudiosWA
@AWStudiosWA 4 жыл бұрын
@@DavidThorpeMFT Thank you for the explanation and link, I will check them out! Great video as always, your reviews and information have been very helpful in my recent camera purchases :)
@Bakin
@Bakin 4 жыл бұрын
David; I enjoyed this video. What is the brand of camera bag shown at 0:56 minutes into this video? I liked the size, capacity and the extensive padding shown.
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 4 жыл бұрын
It's a Wotancraft Ryker bag. Expensive but made to last a lifetime.
@Bakin
@Bakin 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks David; I checked out this bag and although as you mentioned it is expensive, it looks like a great bag that will last for many years.
@gg48gg
@gg48gg 4 жыл бұрын
Great content, logical and practical insight, as always. Your pesonality and wit are also appreciated, David. One thing and it might just be me... I thought it was just my lousy hearing, but I'm starting to think maybe you need a new microphone. I have to crank the volume to hear you clearly. My guess is your recordings are missing some of the higher frequencies which allow "esses" and "tees", etc. to be heard. The lower frequencies of your voice recordings seem exaggerated. I hope this is seen as helpful feedback. I don't want to be a downer on an otherwise very good video. If it's just me with this problem, please ignore.
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your comment, Gil. Sound is the hardest part of the whole thing, actually. I'll give t some thought. The trouble is, sound that is good on one person's gear isn't on another, it's a big compromise. For some reason the human brain tolerates poor colour or sharpness much more easily than it will tolerate poor sound.
@Hoggdoc1946
@Hoggdoc1946 4 жыл бұрын
Funny I didn't have any problem hearing him at all. Maybe it's your speakers or something else on your end.
@DavidThorpeMFT
@DavidThorpeMFT 4 жыл бұрын
@@Hoggdoc1946 I've checked with my sound guru, Karol Walkowski and he thinks my audio quality is generally OK. He sprinkles magic powder on it to improve my output!
@spectrazone
@spectrazone 4 жыл бұрын
Just found this channel, and I love it to bits! Had to subscribe ^_^
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