‌ Thanks for the informations about the HLG3 and the SLG3. I'm still using your Chili Relleno for daylights and lowlights. I found out a profile picture from this KZfaqr : kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jJykhtWhsc-Yk3U.html I've been tested it for one week already, I'm satisfied with the resuts in daylights and lowlights. ‌

Thanks, I know its been a long time since the video but did you have any other settings changed in daylight profile pictures?

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Сергей Фурман Thanks

Rafael Brito yeer just thought this had to be made

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Niko yeet

I've got a question though. My zebra is popping at a pretty low iso allready, so what is your advice on the proper way to expose both of your pp ?

really the best way is to use a monitor with a correction lut, you can also set it up with false color to avoid blowing out

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Which profile was used to shoot all the B roll after the 26min mark? it's so clean and crispy.

Got an ETA on that day time video? Cant wait!

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IllWillMedia 706 thanks bro nice to know it’s helpful

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Nate Chester lemme know how it turned out

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Murat Kokten because cine 2 is a compressed version of cine 1, taking 107% output and squishing it into 100%, the quality of cine 2 is degraded slightly. sony did this to make grading easier. i’m actually making a video on the best daylight profiles rn; just been to lazy / busy to edit it. but in a nutshell my findings for a daylight profile where you don’t have to worry about noise is : the highest quality footage capture comes from overexposed slog 3 and overexposed hlog 3. by overexposed i mean pushed ~ 2 stops, but NOT blowing out the highlights. then in post just pull down the mids. the difference between them is : hlog 3 has better color and it doesn’t matter that much when going with 709 or 2020 bc you have to convert both to 709 anyways in the nle, the 709 color space still needs to be converted to adjust the gamma. slog 3 has better dynamic range (slightly, see the vid by gerald undone on this, i think it was a third of a stop difference in hdr) the other advantage of slog 3 over hlog 3 is it has more gradation of highlights, meaning it captures backlit/ cloudy / high exposure differences well, where hlog 3 blows out highlights more easily. i’ve been using hlog 3 for work bc it’s slightly easier in workflow than slog 3. edit : although i’m considering doing more work using slog 3 bc i like to shoot backlit sunlight

for a profile that does not need grading, it’s probably gonna be the chili rellino cine 1 profile i mentioned here, but with detail added bc we don’t have to worry about noise as much. should have the daylight profile video up soon stay tuned dude edit : so the detail would be at 0 as opposed to -7

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the lower the iso, the less noise and cleaner the image will be. this applies to any picture profile or even film stock. there are edge cases of dual native iso but not for this camera going for the lowest iso will produce the least amount of noise in body, but in this case cine 1 (cookie dough) was very slightly overexposed and then pulled down later in post hlog 1 has the most built in noise reduction and lowest dynamic range. hlog 3 has the least noise reduction and the most dynamic range. hlog 2 is a balance of these. if you’re trying to stick with hlog, maybe using hlog 3 for daylight and hlog 1 for low light might work ultimately tho cine 1 has the best low light performance for this camera

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JesseSTRUMS the updated ones in the description

Are you sure for Ff vs super 35 you're not thinking of the a7riii? The a7riii downsamples the full sensor so FF should be much less noisy...

Matthew Long maybe, not sure. a7iii down samples as well, but i’ll remove the bit just in case

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Derek Polman the short answer is hlog 3, bt2020, knee at 85% slope +5, detail the same as here, and overexposure as much as you can without blowing out the highlights, same as here. in post convert the color space to 709, and pull down on the mids. i like this more than slog 3 which has slightly more dynamic range and flare / blow out resistant - bc it very easy to grade. slog is a pain for me, and the only use for me when shooting with it is very strongly backlight stuff.

@@GeoffreyGonzales Thank you! It's really interesting that you suggest overexposure rather than underexposure. Almost every other tips/guide/tutorial for video suggest to underexpose slightly. Wouldn't some of the mids and darks data be lost/crushed when overexposing?

Derek Polman no the opposite. if you overexpose (brighter) there is more information in the shadows. the highlights get clipped, but hlog can handle it plus that’s why the knee is at 85%

@@GeoffreyGonzales Here's an interesting article some time back about Slog, Cine1, and Cine4 datapoints. www.inventome.com/blog/sony-a7s-how-to-expose-cine-or-log

interesting thanks for sharing. maybe the processing is different, sensor definitely is. curious about cookie dough

@@GeoffreyGonzales I will try cookie dough and report results...thanks for the quick reply!

@doughnut shop cookie dough looks equally as noisy if not more...but maybe since it's a flatter profile some of it can be crushed into the blacks in post...it must be an a6500 thing because the results in your video look fantastic!

Stolen Coats yeah it should be pulled down a bit

ActuallyArmani oops i misspoke it’s cinema

kristóf kollár both will work fine, up to you which you like more through testing. im sorry i don’t more of an opinion on this as i dont use zebras, i use a lut on a monitor to expose.

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Kenny Johnston thanks. the profile in the description is updated so go with that one

geoffrey Just to be sure, saturation +20, black level -7? Thanks again

Kenny Johnston yup

@@GeoffreyGonzales Gotcha. So introducing that much saturation in body won't introduce noise? thanks

Kenny Johnston it will, it’s about 2-5%, but you can see in some of the footage in the beginning it’s not that much. chilie relleno is meant to be used without grading so you got to add saturation anyways

i made a mistake in the video

@@GeoffreyGonzales ahh OK! Which of the two is the best setting for low light performance for reducing the noise?

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@@maxgiaco the description sorry wrong comment

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Lucas Prado pretty sure it’s better than the settings out of the box; the color and processing are probably a little different (maybe 1-5% maybe), but again it’s very likely better than just using the standard settings. best thing to do is to try it in a dark bedroom or something

@@GeoffreyGonzales I'm going to test it and tell you here. But at the moment, Chili Relleno works better for me. I'm on a 18-105mm f4 with 10000 ISO and the results is great. Going to test more deeply. Thanks for now!

BuzzWorthy if it’s time lapse take raw stills because it’ll be less noisy. if it’s video of stars (when would you do this?) then cookie dough

@@GeoffreyGonzales Thank you. I do take raw stills but I am just wondering what picture profile will provide the best light gathering with the least noise. Thanks again.

BuzzWorthy if you’re taking images , it does not matter what profile you’re using if you shoot raw

@@GeoffreyGonzales- Thank you. I just watched a Gerald Undone video where he went through and tested that theory that PP does not effect RAW - but come to find out the RAW photos are effected by the Gamma of the PP. I have not done any testing after watching that video but Gerald's limited testing showed Cine1 was the best light gathering profile. I'll have to does some astro testing if it ever quits snowing in the Rocky Mountains.

BuzzWorthy that’s very interesting. did the gamma effect the overall capture of the images dynamic range or just its starting point? all in all, i would still use cookie dough as it performed the best in a compressed format (for video), but would try bracketing exposure bc im not sure if under / normal / overexposing + pulling - would be the best practice for images. let me know how it goes!

Rickard Hagman here’s something i shot with cookie dough a few weeks ago shot the first 40 or so seconds in hlog 3 then after the it’s cookie dough + correction (saturation with an emphasis in the highlights, lowered the blacks and shadows slightly to crush noise and add back saturation) + some slight hue shifting to make it look pretty kzfaq.info/get/bejne/l8yWi712ssuZnGw.html

@@GeoffreyGonzales thank you mate

generally +1.3 somtimes +0.7 somtimes +1.5

they are in the menu inside detail settings

@@GeoffreyGonzales Alright I’ll check it . Blessings bro

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Lunstagramer hello, i don’t have a daylight profile that’s like chili rellino, where you don’t have to grade it. you can use it for daylight tho for daylight low iso stuff i use hlog3

‌ Thank you for your reply. I'll stick to your Chili Relleno for low lights and day lights until you release a Chili Relleno II :-) ‌ Wish you a good day. ‌

no luts to suggest sorry. just have to learn how to correct it (5:04), and then on top of that correction tweak it around slightly

@@GeoffreyGonzales Thx for the quick answer :) Is this pp(cookie dough) suitable for using with a sony a6300? Any tweaks that needs to be made to fit that camera since I just noticed that this pp is for a7iii? Thanks.

grabben Grobb i havent tried it for that camera so i don’t know for sure, sorry. probably best to test it out yourself and see how it does

if it’s well lit enough to keep it under 4000-6400 iso then hlog3 is fine

the second profile in the description (chili rellino)

Kinda wish you could have gone more in detail by showing us on camera how you set these parameters. Sorry, new to Sony a7iii

Found it !