Finally a review that recognised .177 is good for accurate hunting, I sold all my .22's and replaced them with .177, never looked back...

Not going to lie this is the best most very well detailed video I’ve ever found

The problem with this test is that when you're hunting small game, you're not shooting through inches of flesh. You very quickly hit denser material, including bone, which causes very different pellet deformation to that indicated by ballistic gel.

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Thank you Andy, for this test, as well as the test for .22 caliber

I've always thought that so called 'hunting' pellets are not much more than a gimmick. For me, the number one priority for any pellet being used on live quarry is accuracy. People comment about over penetration and not all of the energy from a pellet being imparted to a target as a result. Personally, I've never seen a rabbit walk away from a shot that puts a hole in its head from one side right through to the other.

I’ve recently switched from the JSB exact 8.44gr to QYS streamlined 9.56gr. At 40yards they’re pellet on pellet in my hw100. Absolutely love them and well worth checking out :)

Thanks for the amazing videos! The information within helps us understand the performance and characteristics of difference pellets, something which we only know through trial and error. Priceless 👍🏼

I use barracuda hunter extreme in my BSA Scorpion SE 177. Over 40 - 50 yards range they have no problems with Rats, Phesants, Ducks, Quails, Rabbits, and Hares. Best hunting pellets I've ever used👍

Extremely useful and methodical ammunition review and analysis! Thank you for taking the mystery and guess work out the pellet selection. Cheers 👍😊

Andy, thank you for the amazing video. Very detailed and i appreciated how you included pictures of the tin during each testing phase for easy reference. It makes it easy to watch and follow and will allow for easy quick reference if i am shopping in the store. Have a good one.

A very well made video. Felt like in a classroom, learning something. Thank you. All your videos are very very informative.

Waited for this test. Nice done. I got a FAC in 4,5mm shooting only JSB Exact Monster 13,43gr. The trajectory of 4,5mm is excellent. Regards from Slovenia.

Your channel will be wildly successful for the same reasons John Cleese is always doing voice overs congratulations

I'd like to say this was a very well made video and informative. Also I appreciate the fact that this isn't sponsored which could add bias. I should also add I'm in the US. I have the Crosman Venom Dusk pellet rifle and would usually just target shoot with it. The pellets I used were the Beeman Silver arrows at 11.57 grains. I haven't chronographed it but it is probably 900+ FPS. I decided I'd like to go squirrel hunting and I wanted to find a pellet that wouldn't over penetrate and pass through. I also wanted good expansion. After researching on forums and by watching videos like yours I decided to try the H&N Terminator. They were far lighter at 7.25 grains and I really wasn't expecting these to be acceptable as far as accuracy. I cleaned and lubed my rifle last night. I went to the 25 yard indoor range this morning. I had to make numerous adjustments to my scope as it was zeroed with the Silver Arrows. I was pleasantly surprised with the accuracy of the Terminator pellets. Once zeroed I was able to shoot a five shot group, all touching, that measured about 3/4". Thanks for taking the time to make these videos.

The best review i've seen by a long time.

I'd like to start this off by saying that I've been on a bit of a dive for pellet recommendations, but no reviews are actually any good, and I don't exactly have slabs of ballistic gel laying around. This video is perfect, my dude. Thank you so much for actually making a decent review. I came here from another "Review" that was literally just marketing material. Once again, thanks a ton, and keep up the great work!

Just found your channel today. You have done the best job of testing and explained the results.

In my setup the. 177 piledriver shoots great and always tumbles inside the intended target. Drops everything its hit so far.

never used the .177 Ultra Shocks, BUT... my .22 caliber, 34 ft/lb Benjamin Marauder absolutely LOVES the Ultra Shock pellets. they group like a laser beam, deform massively, and i can confirm their lethal efficacy on small game

Just bought some H&N Baracudas after trying numerous others (Crosman Premier Hollow Points included which were recommended) in my cheap .177 Nova Vista gas ram. Turns out my rifle isn’t rubbish. The grouping with the H&N’s after ~100 shots is fantastic. Just ordered another 2 tins.

Instantly earned the like on that gel strike on the beat! Cracked a massive grin!

Comment #2. After spending a year with two more guns (TX200HC and an RM8. Both in .177), and also viewing this vid again and again, I’ve convinced myself that no pellet manufacturer caters to sub 12ft/lbs wrt the claim of deformation. It just isn’t there. And so I go for accuracy all day long over a ‘hunting’ pellet that may or may not hit the kill zone. Again, great video, Andy. 👍

These videos are so good, I feel like I should watch it again whist taking notes, like a school lecture. I probably should actually

Excellent follow-on to the .22 test Andy. For me, Bisley Magnums do a great job in both my HW100 and Huntsman Regal. Very accurate and consistent, but they do tend to 'drill through' quarry. (Even at 12 ft/lb) This is quite useful for heart/lung shots on avian pests, when a head shot is not an option. I think the old guidance of '.22 for fur and .177 for feather' has some grounding! I just wish I had a Huntsman Classic in .20! Thanks for your efforts, and keep them coming.

Love your comparisons, as always!

Well I’m gonna spend some serious $$$ buying all of these to see which pellet my gun likes. Thanks for narrowing them down Andy.

I shot a Beeman springer for better than a decade running about 11-11.5 ft/lb. My go to pellet was the H&N Crow Magnum. I routinely got expansion even in that power level when recovering them occasionally if I happened to not have complete pass throughs on game. I shot the terminators some, but the crow magnums were definitely my favorite. My gun shot them better than my brothers and my buddies, but they both ran different model springers. Both of which also liked the pellet but not as much as my gun. Likely in a higher powered gun they'd basically disintegrate or flatten very quickly and have minimal penetration. I feel they would be best suited to stay under 20 or maybe 25ft lb MAX. But I'd love to see them in gel, 177 and 22 cal.

Andy my Career 707 .22 50fpe loves them out to 60yds past that the group really opens up. My .22 Sumatra Carbine and .22 Career 707 Carbine love the Ultra Shock too. But, past 50yds the groups open up. The Carbines are around 50fps also. Great review really enjoyed it. Thanks my Brother

Thanks for the great video. Very informative and well thought out

I'm glad that I'm not the only one trying different pellets out that when the testing was complete it looked like I was patterning a shotgun.

Have been looking forward to this review, thanks for another great one.

Personally as a target shooter, I have shot Predator Polymag, as they came with the gun when it was bought from someone else. I shot them through a Umarex Beretta Licensed Cx4 Storm 7.5J. They were incredibly accurate out of that gun, after cleaning the barrel.

Awesome video! I will be picking up tins of .177 and .22 Terminator pellets :) Thank you for posting this, you put a lot of effort into it.

Fantastic information, thank you for the detailed review, 177 FAC looks surprisingly useful

Thanks for the information and your wife’s hard work making the gel blocks.

Excellent material, as always! What about a test of this kind with springer rifles? I know that PCP are more accurate, but many of us prefer the simplicity of a good springer, like TX200/ProSport, HW77/97, LGU/LGV, which, here in Portugal, we can buy with either 16J or 20J. I would love to see such test!

I had a lot of success on Rabbits out to 35 yards with .177 RWS Hobby. As a bonus they are fairly cheap. Like always... shot placement and choosing a pellet that is accurate out of your rifle are the most important things. My faves as an FT shooter are JSB Exacts and Crossman Accupel as all 3 of my FT rifles perform well with them.

Good info sir, in my country we are only allowed.177 but no restrictions on power good work

As another noted, these are seriously informative videos you produce.Very well presented with clear and objective detail.

I think something everyone should take in to consideration is you’re more than likely going to be hitting bone rather than flesh if you’re going for headshots so the expansion would be more significant for both calibre sub 12ft/lb guns.

For my beeman, rws superdomes are the best hunting pellet (USA Laws apply). I dont use 22 now. For info; Beeman 10616, 0.31" groups @ 30 yards. 998 fps with RWS 8.3 gr Superdome Field Line pellets, 18.3 fpe, silencer, 28 lb cocking, no droop, has open sights, very quiet. Nine pounds with scope. I shoot it like a deer rifle. Test group shouldered with front rest, light grip, 9x scoped. Jsb shoots no better but costs 5x more. The gun out shoots me even as a marksman. Much fun, smooth quiet spring, love this gun. Added a Tasco 3-9x 40mm AO scope and sling, a whopping $190 total package. Comes with a scope good for 20 yds or less. RWS superdomes are 2.6 cents each. They work well at low and high velocities. The gun is rated at 1,200 fps and shoots 1,085 fps with 7.0 gr lead pellets. Gotta love German engineering.

Interesting results, thank you! Odd, that the Hammers scored so low. I've been using them as a cheap alternative (and obviously not so good) for H&N Field Target Trophy with my HW97K (19J power) and at 30m they performed quite satisfyingly. Maybe their production quality is unstable.

Great video Andy, those polymags are pin accurate up to 25 yards in my Daystate!

Outstanding quality review of pellets.

The JSB Ultra Shock shoot out of my Beeman R1 Magnum .177 caliber like a laser beam out to 50 yards. It also shoots the H&N Barracuda Hunter Extreme the same, H&N Crow Magnum, JSB Predator Polymag, & H&N Terminator. My barrel isn't fuzzy. All of these pellets mushroom great, and have the accuracy to back it up. I also shoot playing card in half with these from 10 yards, out to 50 yards. This is how my .177 caliber rifle shoots them, and not yours obviously. Good video. Just want people to know that the Ultra Shock's can be accurrate. Your barrel just has to like them.

Great video man, I use the piledrivers ,shooting at 28ftlbs, and they group quite well. I use a hatsan galatian

Great fun and informative, thank you sir! Cheers from the Netherlands 👍🍻

Fantastic video. Very detailed and informative. Glad that you included both sub 12 and FAC rifles which shows how the same pellets react differently. This earned a like and a sub from me and I’m going to go back and watch more of your vids. Cheers from Canada, eh?

very useful video for a beginner like me, have subbed to show support. Funny story for you, i was a student in Nottingham years ago, and my halls of residence were next door to Drapers! All these years later i'm watching this! Best wishes from the south coast and love the Notts accent hahah! Makes me miss Hyson Green and Forrest Fields x

Well said Andy!!! Budget pellets aren't the best... I've bought cheap ones like that and they are a waist of time and money.

I have one of the old style .177 caliber pump up single shot pellet guns . I haven't shot it in a long time because I have nowhere to do so . I like it because it is a very good gun and I always used the Crossman .177 pellets with the flat head and always killed what I was aiming at .

I haven't seen those brands in store, I guess they aren't really popular in southern california. Thank you for this video

Spot on (NO BULL) bulls eye!!! Thanks, new subscriber.

Thanks for this test. Like your video's

So happy I found your channel!

Thanks Andy for a nother great comparison, and Mrs AAR, for the gel. very interesting, and informative, Cheers

Great video it would be nice to see how the the pellets perform if you put the gel at 40m as this is a realistic distance to shoot quarry at.

Yet another nice review Andy. Can I ask why you swapped between the Exact and the Exact Heavy? I use the Heavy in sub 12 as it is accurate and has better down range energy. Both are very accurate in my set up.

Love your tests, my old Huntsman loves Bisley Magnums, but they have to be 4.53, do all manufacturers specify the size?

Great testing and video

-- Have some H&M domed .22 pellets. I like them well enough, but I'd like more deformation at a little more speed. (It's a Gamo G2 Swarm Maxim) I built as a 15-20 yard gun. Squirrels, Skunks and Racoons. So I'm trying a Gamo 15 grain 'redfire' pellet next in it. Before anyone says that's not enough for Racoons. You're right. I don't care about being humane with them. They attack my dogs and my kids. But I do get the .22mag out for them when I can. Anyway the H&M I have are some 21.3 grains off the top of my head - probably wrong, but close, and the rifle is sighted for them. Slower, heavier, but accurate and they hit hard. Chronograph tells me 780fps. These Redfires are 15 grains, so I'm guessing somewhere around 1000fps when I get and chrono them. But that little polymer tip for a bit of barrier blindness, and maybe, just maybe some additional accuracy, coupled with the HP expansion ... well the theory is they might compliment the gun and intended range better. 20-30 yards, 90 percent Squirls that get into our houses, and wood peckers. I think they're both sound choices. Interested in what will work better. Just my thought process. Killed a squirl the other day from about 25 yards with the H&M. Through the spine, lung, out the chest (firing from an elevated position). Squill lived for 8 minutes. It went up a tree, died and fell. I couldn't follow on to put it out of it's misery because people and property were at risk. Wasn't happy watching it shutter for 8 minutes. Trying something new.

When I’m hunting I’ve already gotten used to this and I always hit the head but this was very helpful because I need to get a new hunting pellet because it doesn’t expand on impact and it kicks like a 22

Hi. Great videos 👍 Would you please at some point spent some time making playlists? Divide pistol reviews from rifle reviews and so on. It's a long list to go through looking for specific topics 😉 Have a great day

Cheers enjoyed that.. as always.

I knew this video was gon be supreme with information when I heard the David Attenborough accent lol thanks mane! Excellent vid

Accuracy can never be checked with just changing pellets in a barrel that has not be leaded in to them. Any barrel needs at least 100 pellets down them to lead up and start being accurate with any pellet. I'd like to see you take one of the not very accurate pellets say the H+N hunter extreme in .22, put 100 down there and see if the grouping tightens up, something that has always happened to me. I just always picked a good pellet I could get hold of localy, not even zeroed scope and done said 100, zero it up and then test. You will be surprised. Sometimes the scope will even come on itself with not much adjustment as it approches 100 pellets, you can acctully see the pellets coming back on target.

Personally I shoot .177 JSB Exacts through both my hw110 and hw110k as they produce a sub 1/2 inch group at 30 yards @ sub 12ft/lb as I prefer terminal headshot for hunting. A body shot is more likely to injure quarry which for me is a no no.

I liked your video I have a 12lb Remington express .177 and I was looking for a better pellet than a cheap set , very detailed but also didn't take all day to get to the point :)

Them exacts seem to have grouped well, think ime going to try a tin for my new HW95

How did you choose those 9 pellets? Why no Crosman pellets? I would have liked to see how the affordable pellets I can buy in store compare to all these expensive ones you have to order

Great video!

You are so professional at your presenting ,interesting too .

DEAR ANDY, WOULD HAVE BEEN VERY INTERESTING TO HAVE INCLUDED THE .20 WITH THIS EXACT TEST!! WOULD THE F.A.C. .20 HAVE GIVEN YOU THE BEST OF BOTH! >NO ONE EVER SEEMS TO GIVE THE .20 MUCH OF A REVIEW/CHANCE!! ANY CHANCE OF DOING A RETEST?? ANOTHER GREAT REVIEW. MICK FROM SURREY.

Very good lesson. I use .177 polymags. To clear rats and squirrels out of the garden. It is rabbit season now and will use the .22 polymags to clear them out. How about the pellet that is topped with a steel BB? When I did gel tests on those. The BB would go one way and the pellet would deform and spin the other way. I have a beeman sportsman series that has interchangeable barrels. It is a break barrel gun and shoots 22s at 900fps. And 177 at 1200 fps.

Good information as always Andy. In your opinion what kind of velocity does it take at impact point to deform lead pellets . I’m not talking muzzle velocity but down range 20-30 yards. The 2020 shot show in Las Vegas JSB said they will be producing the hades in.177 possibility by summer. Thanks to you and the misses and crew.

This Video helps me a lot! Thank you very much for the very well done video 🙏

Brilliant Andy. Many thanks.

That video was very helpful since I am a beginner to this and I I still figuring out what pellets suit me

Fantastic video really enjoyed it,

Interesting results. The only pellet missing from your arsenal is the JSB hades pellets, especially since they are made for hunting.

This men got sun crazy ass scopes

Really helpful, thanks a load for doing my homework!

Great vid

H&N crow magnum in fac are excellent 177cal hunting pellets also barracuda hunter, which in my opinion are better in expansion and accuracy over the hunter extreme pellet.

This is a really great review and pellet test Andy! 👍 Both my 177 and my 22 cals love the terminators! For a very blunt looking pellet, i was surprised how well they group, like dime sized groups at 20 meters! 😯 And for a pellet that looks so much like the crosman destroyers, the accuracy results are quite a bit different. Im guessing its that little bit of extra weight that stabilizes them better. Pete 🇨🇦

Another great review. I use Hunter Extreme through my .177 sub 12ftlb Ultimate Sporter, but my FAC equivalent loves the Heavy Sovereigns at 10.3gn.

I am amazed, you are so well spoken Nat Geo needs to have you narrate EVERYTHING, great job and excellent to listen too; David Attenborough watch out.......

The HN Excite Hammers in .177 can be fuzzy to shoot and HN got quality shifts from batch to batch, but out to 30m my Weihrauchs turn them into usable groups, my SMK are okay with them, my Diana springs seems to hate them like your FAC. They are plinking pellets after all, maybe good for some FT/HFT training or am minor match with a rifle that likes them. My HW97 can keep them within a beer cap out to 50m, with a little sorting up front. So one could use them when on a budget. Also got couple sticks of them in .22 since they grouped well with anything from my 2240 as PR900 or HW100 - that why I bought the stock of my go to shop up after testing a can from their lot. I'm also a bit surprised by the performance of the JSB Straton, I have been testing them with springer as pcp and they group well with my sub FAC rifles, better then the pointed HN or RWS at least. Very interesting testing results - thanks for going so over into detail!

Beautiful definition Thank you so much Sir,.. 👍❤️

Andy. Do you find pellets called " Artemis Round Pellets " in the UK ?? I use those at my HW 77k sub 12 wich I tuned down from 18 fpe because of the cracking noise the gun had . Very accurate in both versions !!!!!! Just 5 pounds (for 500 pellets !!!!) from Krale Schietsport in the Netherlands . A nice shop ;)) Thanks for sharing the video !

Just catching up on some of your videos Andy, really enjoy the comparison type videos you post. As a suggestion for a future review how about doing a comparison type test focusing on the bisley range of pellets?

Once again you have knocked this out of the park. Great video and comparison. I use Daisy Hollow Points in .177 and in .22 for everything. I don’t shoot farther than 50 yards and they hold sub 1” groups. 900 FPS is about the speed you need and slower. If you push past these speeds you just have to close distance.

I use lead free pellets if I hunt with mine

Very interesting. I am just starting off as an FT and am looking for the right pellet. High grain or small grain? Wind effect on shape and grain. Thank you for this informative video.

In almost my place cal 177 are used to shoot a wild boar and it can kill instantly if hit at the right point of them...etc among the eyes

Good effort and helpful, my first PCP is definately going to be in .177 sub 12ft.

Fantastic video as always big thanks..

I have found the exite hammer 177 very accurate in a tss B 3 2 and in my old Diana 34 on the other are not the same to my hatsan 95 22 I thing those cheap pellets becouse are light weight are going better with low power airguns

Nice test my friend. I hope all is well. Regards, Rune :)