ABANDONED steam engine junk yard Oregon

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Death Valley Lumber Company

Death Valley Lumber Company

8 жыл бұрын

I was not tresspassing
I actually met the owner in person who was happy to allow me to film this video
i will answer questions
music
frosty morning, bela fleck
lonely cycote, the wayfares
"Highlander's Farewell" by The Lonesome Sisters and Riley Baugus

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@Fedora5957
@Fedora5957 5 жыл бұрын
That is NO junk yard-- THAT IS A GOLD MINE! SAVE SIERRA #18!
@DeathValleyLumberCompany
@DeathValleyLumberCompany 5 жыл бұрын
the rumor has it that 18 and all the other native sierra locomotives are willed to railtown1897
@davidblakeman7165
@davidblakeman7165 4 жыл бұрын
Restore them all. We will need them after a big solar flare and everything goes black.
@hugothomas1199
@hugothomas1199 3 жыл бұрын
Yes restore them then the steam population will rise!
@zuestoots5176
@zuestoots5176 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidblakeman7165 you do know that if things are turned off off during a flare, they will likely run like normal after words..
@Graulas
@Graulas 3 жыл бұрын
@@DeathValleyLumberCompany as in they get hold of them after the previous owners death?
@ginnymiller2448
@ginnymiller2448 6 жыл бұрын
I love this. Wonderful that these old beauties are still in existence. Many MANY old steam engines and their components were scrapped for metal in WWII and are sadly gone forever. These old trains are a rare link to our past.
@Waty8413
@Waty8413 4 жыл бұрын
WW2 actually delayed a lot of steam locos from being scrapped. There was a huge demand on railroads during that time period and not nearly enough diesel power to go around.
@DeathValleyLumberCompany
@DeathValleyLumberCompany 2 жыл бұрын
@@Waty8413 that was for the bigger stuff that ended up getting scrapped after the war, scrap drives took numerous pre 1900 era locomotives that are irreplaceable at this point
@Dulaman107
@Dulaman107 Жыл бұрын
@@DeathValleyLumberCompany "Irreplaceable". I always hate that word when it comes to machinery, because if enough people cared, building a new one would be far from impossible. If you can get the design drawings of the locomotives, with the right funding and facilities it wouldn't be very hard at all to make new ones.
@Amigafur
@Amigafur Жыл бұрын
Yeah... No. WW2 extended the steam era. Diesel production all but stopped during the war.
@adubz54
@adubz54 7 ай бұрын
There is one group doing that @@Dulaman107
@charger19691
@charger19691 6 жыл бұрын
Imagine if these old titans of the railways could talk. Amazing stories would be told!!!
@resetplayz53
@resetplayz53 5 жыл бұрын
Yes
@riesenflugzeug
@riesenflugzeug 4 жыл бұрын
that's called 1984
@traingirlmilly8026
@traingirlmilly8026 4 жыл бұрын
@@riesenflugzeug the year ttte first aired on tv
@DeathValleyLumberCompany
@DeathValleyLumberCompany 2 жыл бұрын
Try meeting the owner, The engines may not be able to tell story's but Fred sure can!!
@TrainBandit
@TrainBandit Жыл бұрын
Would free be willing to give up the locos for restoration
@juliehamar7822
@juliehamar7822 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Fred for saving these Locos.And a new generation may restore them to running condition one day.Rather than dragging them out to sit dead in a museum.They're not going to rot in Oregon nice and dry.
@billdavison5920
@billdavison5920 6 жыл бұрын
I worked on the vernonia Southpark and sunset r.r. when I was 10 yrs old 55 years ago in Banks Oregon
@TheShadeTreeFixitMan
@TheShadeTreeFixitMan 8 жыл бұрын
Neat old boneyard. Thanks for taking us along. If only they could talk.
@DeathValleyLumberCompany
@DeathValleyLumberCompany 8 жыл бұрын
the story they would tell..... thanks!
@Wag2112
@Wag2112 6 жыл бұрын
Shade Tree - see my comment above :)
@FritzMcYeet
@FritzMcYeet 6 жыл бұрын
I love the fact that one of them has frickin' *shutters* on the windows of the steam engine. That just makes it seem more dead...
@scottfirman
@scottfirman 6 жыл бұрын
Like the old guy down the road that refuses to sell his old cars sitting in a field. By the time he dies,they are too far gone to restore. I had to see that happen. His kids were mad also. They got nothing but scrap value because he didn't do anything to preserve them. Same thing going on with those trains. Sad.
@DeathValleyLumberCompany
@DeathValleyLumberCompany 6 жыл бұрын
that could possibly happen, but fred does his best to keep these engines preserved by storing them in a very dry climate and covering up the locomotives smoke stacks they should be safe for a good while
@abergethirty
@abergethirty 5 жыл бұрын
He's more than likely saved them from being scrapped in the first place. There isn't droves of people looking to spend the time and money to restore these things.
@gregbrakedust4057
@gregbrakedust4057 6 жыл бұрын
My god, I've lived in Oregon my whole life and I've never heard of this. Planning a trip already.
@jackpalmer19
@jackpalmer19 4 жыл бұрын
No dont I live here there is nothing to see
@terrier_productions
@terrier_productions 4 жыл бұрын
You will need permission from this sight owner
@terrier_productions
@terrier_productions 3 жыл бұрын
@The Model Trainer yes but it’s on most likely someone’s land.. it would technically be trespassing.. just because it’s abandoned doesn’t mean the land it’s on is not owned by an individual
@terrier_productions
@terrier_productions 3 жыл бұрын
@The Model Trainer storage
@terrier_productions
@terrier_productions 3 жыл бұрын
@The Model Trainer I don’t want to get into a fight with you, good fellow.. just forget I said anything please
@KauaiPacificRRProductions
@KauaiPacificRRProductions 7 жыл бұрын
Seeing Lihue #4 (Ex Mcbryde Sugar #1 is what she actually is) still in sort of one piece, gives me some hope and some faith in humanity. She was renumbered to 304 by Gene Autry for use on his film railroad. Hoping one day, she'll find her way back to Kauai.
@TrainBandit
@TrainBandit Жыл бұрын
It would be great to get her back
@rvninnorthcarolina3377
@rvninnorthcarolina3377 6 жыл бұрын
I have been involved with restorations in the past. The cost or bring a steamer up to specification and certifying it to operate can be in the millions depending on the condition of the locomotive to start with. Getting a steamer from the scrappers is relatively cheap compared to the cost of an "operating restoration". Many people have embarked on restoring a locomotive to operating condition, only stalling our do to lack of funding. One has to do a in depth inspection of the locomotive to see if it is really restore-able...let me back up, ANYTHING is restore-able if you have the funds...There are projects going on now where 50% of the locomotive has new custom components that has to be specially built because the originals are beyond repair. Most cases boilers are a "do-over", fireboxes are generally need to be rebuilt, drive cylinders are usually seized so that is another do over...the old bearing journals on the tenders are generally not acceptable on most lines so they need to be replaced with roller bearing, asbestos removal everywhere, brake systems have to be updated to be "road legal", and I could go on. If a museum has their own trackage then they can skimp on replacing the tender trucks and even upgrading brakes but my point in everything has to be considered, and it just ain't cheap...even with volunteers doing the heavy lifting. . THEN, you have to maintain it and get it re-certified. Keep in mind, the move from steam to diesel was every bit about the cost of maintaining a steam locomotive. They were expensive to keep on the rails and diesel locomotives were much easier to maintain and parts were interchangeable so repair and maintenance was also less of an issue. So you want to do this anyway you say...funding is the biggest issue. You have to draw in investors. You see all these locomotives and parts everywhere so you have to ask yourself, what locomotive in this yard is going to interest investors to pay to restore it. Is there something special or unique about any one of these. Is there any history beyond "just being old". Someone said on this comment section "I have $120,000 to spend right now"...well that will allow you to buy it, have a rigging company pick it up and truck it to...where?...if you want to transport via rail you still need a rigger to put it on a special flat car and have it secured because no mainline railroad is going to let you put that on their rails...you need to have someone look at it to see what needs to happen and you are likely looking at asbestos abatement. If you are lucky you may have enough money and available parts to do a cosmetic restoration when it is all done....but I dont see any of these locomotives that are in a condition and or have enough parts still remaining to make the candidates for restoration without substantial funds. I can tell you there are plenty of museums that have loco in far better condition that would be candidates if you can talk them out of it.
@DeathValleyLumberCompany
@DeathValleyLumberCompany 6 жыл бұрын
NC Steamfan, most of these ones won't take much to get them certified, they were running recently at museums and could be broght back with minimal work
@PreservationEnthusiast
@PreservationEnthusiast Жыл бұрын
RV'n you are correct. They will cost too much to restore and when finished will burn fossil fuel. This is being phased out due to global warming climate change. They are a safety hazard and an eyesore that need to be cut for scrap asap.
@emdman1959
@emdman1959 7 жыл бұрын
It saddens my heart to see all those beautiful old steam engine just sitting there rotting away, it is almost a fait worth than being sent to the scrappers torch.
@microbusss
@microbusss 7 жыл бұрын
yeah & I even wanna save the Sierra RR 4-4-0 at Old Tuscon Studios & get it back in operation grrrr!
@DeathValleyLumberCompany
@DeathValleyLumberCompany 7 жыл бұрын
that's Virginia and Truckee #11 "Reno" she is in the process of being purchased by a foundation but I don't know if they will pull it off
@microbusss
@microbusss 7 жыл бұрын
yeah? I hope they do! & convert it back to running on coal!
@DeathValleyLumberCompany
@DeathValleyLumberCompany 7 жыл бұрын
sounds fun, I dont know of any way to contact him but his name is fred kepner
@benheatherman2839
@benheatherman2839 7 жыл бұрын
I live near merrill and it's actually a nearly perfect area to store old equipment as this region gets less than 13'' of precipitation a year. So very little rust.
@sd90mac61
@sd90mac61 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, I feel like a little boy at the candy store, I've love trains and still do, I don't own these real ones, but I've got ho scale trains about 80 different frieght cars and 17 locomotives, mostly all diesels and couple steam that do smoke, I like the self tender, with them white wall rings on its wheels, great job, thanks for sharing 👍
@PreservationEnthusiast
@PreservationEnthusiast Жыл бұрын
These locomotives are a safety hazard and need cutting for scrap asap.
@DeathValleyLumberCompany
@DeathValleyLumberCompany Жыл бұрын
I fully agree They’re outdated for our modern society and would be better off used as tin cans
@DanielPRails
@DanielPRails 4 жыл бұрын
Holy smokes! So much history and stories and miles just sitting there. Interesting video. I thoroughly enjoyed it. Thanks
@trainmaster844
@trainmaster844 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for showing the current condition of these engines. It's a shame that their owner (Fred Kepner) hasn't thought of selling them off to more deserving homes. He bought them ages ago and hasn't done a thing with them since - his reluctance to sell them is only going to make them more vulnerable to scrap merchants. #SaveTheKepnerSteamers
@DeathValleyLumberCompany
@DeathValleyLumberCompany 7 жыл бұрын
or even worse they will end up in PARKS! thanks for watching!
@manga12
@manga12 7 жыл бұрын
yes but so long as they remain around, there is always the hope that some will come back to life, but time takes it toll, but all hope is not lost, so long as they are not cut up, new metal can be patched in with many things and boilers can be rebuilt, I am sure if you sent one to strausburg they could have one up and running in short order, if you have all the parts, but if they start to just haphazardly cut them up then that is a real problem, but so long as they are there there is that slight chance they will see new life, as for cosmetic restoration well there are lots of places that could use a locomotive they have all kinds of rail cars but could use an engine, and when funds com available once the metal is stablized it can be evaluated for rebuilding, just like the fort wayne railroad will problably do for that walbash loco we have, its one of only 2 walbash rr steamers that survived the torch for now, out of all of them there are only 2 and we are slowly working on getting the thing freed up and derusted, but we always have many irons in the fire to take care of with 765 and current operations.
@biglittlerailroad874
@biglittlerailroad874 7 жыл бұрын
I have actually never heard of these engines until a few days ago
@marblesjn
@marblesjn 7 жыл бұрын
Hey could at least sell the Sierra engines back to the Sierra railway. If the Brits can build tornado the Sierra railway can rebuild 36 and 38.
@marblesjn
@marblesjn 7 жыл бұрын
Christopher Kovacs also i believe Hank Griffiths recorded a few of these engines in action before they were sent here.
@stevebarnes2
@stevebarnes2 6 жыл бұрын
That dry desert air really does a great job of preserving those machines for future restoration. A large portion of restored steam locos here in the UK sat in a scrap yard on the south cost of Wales so as you can imagine they rusted up pretty bad.
@DeathValleyLumberCompany
@DeathValleyLumberCompany 6 жыл бұрын
bary scrapyard right? those things were a rotten mess from what I have seen
@stevebarnes2
@stevebarnes2 6 жыл бұрын
PopsProductions124 Yeah, that's the one. You should see them now though, a stunning bunch of survivors
@jordanbailey3289
@jordanbailey3289 6 жыл бұрын
My engine was sat in a playground for 50 years www.gofundme.com/the-Cherwell-project
@DeathValleyLumberCompany
@DeathValleyLumberCompany 6 жыл бұрын
oh wow thats cool, how far have you gotten on it now?
@jordanbailey3289
@jordanbailey3289 6 жыл бұрын
PopsProductions124 were in the beginning stages of restoration but desperately need funds!
@chenoabryan8458
@chenoabryan8458 4 жыл бұрын
I am so happy that there is a no.1 tank engine left in Oregon.
@speedstick77
@speedstick77 4 жыл бұрын
This tugs at my heart. . Thank you for sharing.
@dickjohnson5025
@dickjohnson5025 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing yard! These need to be saved.
@gregorydahlen2103
@gregorydahlen2103 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the wonderful video ... and I too loved the appropriate soundtrack!
@dennisb9157
@dennisb9157 4 жыл бұрын
That SP Vanderbilt tender caught my eye. I model the SP in HO Scale and I have a model of one of SP's MT-4 Mountain steam locomotives. It has a Vanderbilt tender, just like the real ones. With that being said, Sierra #18 looks to be in the best condition of them all. All the others would take millions of dollars to restore. Even the GN, though mostly intact, would still cost a small fortune to restore. Sadly, BNSF does not have a steam locomotive preservation program.
@DeathValleyLumberCompany
@DeathValleyLumberCompany 4 жыл бұрын
The vandy tender is off the GN consolidation, the Sierra is missing its tender and all its hardware as well as being almost completely warn out. There's a small prarie that Apperently is a good way through a restoration but needs chassis work.
@dennisb9157
@dennisb9157 4 жыл бұрын
Yes yes there is Great Northern Vanderbilt tender but there's also the Southern Pacific one as well. Did not say Southern Pacific lines and set Southern Pacific Railroad and the Great Northern Vanderbilt Ender is a little bit in front of that SP tender
@stuartadamsrailfanningvideos
@stuartadamsrailfanningvideos 4 жыл бұрын
BNSF has allowed operations of steam locomotives such as SP&S 700, SP 4449, ATSF 3751, MILW 261, SLSF 1522, and soon ATSF 2926.
@stanfischer6175
@stanfischer6175 7 жыл бұрын
I always heard that Sierra #38 was scrapped but then I heard it was simply dismantled. It would take a lot of work and money to get it to run again but its possible. A classic compound shortline Mallet that was later used for logging. -Stan Fischer
@DeathValleyLumberCompany
@DeathValleyLumberCompany 7 жыл бұрын
that thing is really warn out but it is possible for restoration
@robertlloyd7167
@robertlloyd7167 4 жыл бұрын
She was built as a logging engine. She was Weyerhauser's #4 on their line out of Klamath Falls.
@FletcherFinance
@FletcherFinance 6 жыл бұрын
Santa Maria Valley RR locomotive is far away from her home tracks on the central coast of California.
@trains365
@trains365 7 жыл бұрын
Locomotive number 100 and the Sierra engine number 36 were once owned and operated by the White Mountain Scenic Railway in McNary Arizona. Both had been bought and used for short haul excursion service around 1962. They both ran until 1974 when the Railway shut down and everything was sold off. The remaining part of the railroad is now the Apache Railway and only operates a couple times a week at most. I rode the train back in 1971 with my family, I was 6, what a really neat experience, I will never forget.
@DeathValleyLumberCompany
@DeathValleyLumberCompany 7 жыл бұрын
wow, neat do they still run steam on the Apache railroad?
@trains365
@trains365 7 жыл бұрын
PopsProductions124. Unfortunately no, and ever since the pulp mill shut down there is only occational traffic at best.
@DeathValleyLumberCompany
@DeathValleyLumberCompany 7 жыл бұрын
oh don't they have a 3 truck heisler there?
@trains365
@trains365 7 жыл бұрын
PopsProductions124 No heislers, but they do have some classic Alco diesels.
@DeathValleyLumberCompany
@DeathValleyLumberCompany 7 жыл бұрын
cool!
@morg52
@morg52 7 жыл бұрын
While volunteering for a rail road museum in Minnesota, I once asked a knowledgeable person how many steam engines are left in the US. He said, more than anyone who wants to spend the money on them to bring back to working condition. All of you who are unhappy about these engines "rotting away", lets see the money. LOL
@DeathValleyLumberCompany
@DeathValleyLumberCompany 7 жыл бұрын
well said but the thing of it is, most of the locomotives out there are done warn out, these are in good close to operable condition if there was an option, these would be saved in a heart beet
@7.3lpowerstrokeguy2
@7.3lpowerstrokeguy2 6 жыл бұрын
+PopsProductions124 so you have no adress I have a 120k$ yes that it right and I like old things old toys engines don't scrap them U could make 1 out of them and I'm not some guy just want the adress I aculy like them have been love old stuff I hate new and I like to build bring life back to them don't tell me U wouldent want to live forever I would like to know the adress but I'm sure your no going to ...ADRESSS IF U CAN
@kraigcochran9995
@kraigcochran9995 6 жыл бұрын
And here's a something nobody is talking about, steam powered equipment has to be certified every few years by a boiler inspector which are few and far between nowadays. Plus no matter how much your steam engine is used the tubes inside the boiler has to get replaced every 5 years i believe it is and the type of steam pipes aren't manufactured in the United States anymore so your only option is to import them from Germany and there's a minimum amount that you have to order which is way more than one locomotive or any steam boiler needs so it's a very expensive toy train which has very little chance of making back the money you invest in it.
@maxwebster7572
@maxwebster7572 6 жыл бұрын
German pipes would be Metric?
@stepvanjoe3469
@stepvanjoe3469 6 жыл бұрын
Kraig Cochran + actually you are only half right, people with class 1 boilers licences are normally employed in industrial,commercial or power plant's today and are not far and few between as one would think. the point of the inspection is to inspect integrity of the boiler, the flue pipes inside the boiler carry the heat via draft thru length of the boiler to heat water, and (depending on the type of boiler) the flue pipes are either in full contact with the water, (immersion type) or water is totally Isolated from draught box (radiant type ) makes the difference in efficiency and maintenance requirements. also water quality plays a roll, back in the hey day of steam water was generally collected but not much was paid mind to quality i.e. dissolved mineral content, dirt, etc. and these factors played a huge role in boiler longevity. today most industrial/restored historical boilers draw water of a filtered and chemically softened water source via filters, and catalyzing inline water softeners ( same as residential equipment in operation) just bigger. And to address the pipe availability for flues these can be had from U.S. distributors.
@YinxZork
@YinxZork 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, if I'm not mistaken some are in good shape. They should be restored and displayed on the museum
@DeathValleyLumberCompany
@DeathValleyLumberCompany 4 жыл бұрын
Easier said than done but that would be great
@joetrueblood7663
@joetrueblood7663 6 жыл бұрын
Love this video and the music ☺
@timmcneil1536
@timmcneil1536 7 жыл бұрын
thank you for the video documentation. still its sad to see them being neglected like this.
@831BeachBum
@831BeachBum 6 жыл бұрын
Wow! I thought aircraft boneyards were cool but this is awesome. Thanks for posting this video.
@DeathValleyLumberCompany
@DeathValleyLumberCompany 6 жыл бұрын
glad you enjoyed it!
@mikeandmariasaeli6620
@mikeandmariasaeli6620 4 жыл бұрын
Chris, thanks for the extinct steam locomotive video. I agree with you on the Lima built AC-9's man ! What perhaps is even more regrettable is that not one video exists of the 80 odd 2-6-6-6 Alleghenies in action from the 40's- 50's built by Lima for the C&O and the Virginian RR's ! I' d give my eye teeth to see one of those monsters, which were even more powerful than the UP Big Boys, in action on a coal drag in the mountains of WVA ! Mike S.
@TheNoogaRailfan
@TheNoogaRailfan 8 жыл бұрын
I ultimately have the sudden urge to work my butt off and get one of them suckers.
@SierraRailway
@SierraRailway 7 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, most are not for sale, or they would have gone their separate ways years ago. People have talked about the Sierra engines finding better homes for years, but a serious offer on any of them has yet to be made and accepted.
@PersonManManManMan
@PersonManManManMan 6 жыл бұрын
Di it man this is you're chance
@lemin3975
@lemin3975 6 жыл бұрын
Ever since i was little i told my parents i was saving up for a car, when really i was saving up for a narrow gauge steam engine or standard gauge steam engine to run on some track near my house in nc . i hope i can find an engine for a reasonable price...
@GarrettTaylorLeedy
@GarrettTaylorLeedy 8 жыл бұрын
excellent video I like it when there are so many steam locomotives. There's a Shay and articulated locomotive. a lot of consolidation some switcher engines little bit everything. Is that like a scrap yard or some sort of junk yard. I like to know who the owner of that is that is pretty neat. I've said this a lot of steam engines are out there like that the old Woods here in Ohio there's a lot of old locomotives out there in the middle of nowhere. but excellent video well done my friend keep up the good work I like your model trains to your age shows everything you got your american flyer everything
@DeathValleyLumberCompany
@DeathValleyLumberCompany 8 жыл бұрын
thanks!
@chrishenningsen5568
@chrishenningsen5568 7 жыл бұрын
all this equipment is owned by a man named Fred Kepner.
@joeypincombe8384
@joeypincombe8384 7 жыл бұрын
+Chris Henningsen. i was just looking at the pile of rusty rails over at this video and wonder. i heard a story about the white pass and youkon railroad and with every visitor not only keep the railroad running but also goes to mantence and including addition on there trackage. so who knows. the white pass could reach the north pole. the first 3 foot gauge railroad to reach santa claus for those who still believe. and white pass is alway looking for new editions on there route with any sorce for railroad tracks. just thinking about it and with today. here is food for thought just because locomotives. have lost there purpose does it mean they should remain that way. i guess I'm just an old soul. and pass life railroad engineer a couple years ago
@russellhunt5907
@russellhunt5907 6 жыл бұрын
The Shasta Cascade railroad society in Redding would love to have these for their museum lot.
@jasperhvideo
@jasperhvideo 4 жыл бұрын
Russell Hunt i think i went there one time and yeah they have tons of engines preserved
@The20thCenturyLimitedRickyB
@The20thCenturyLimitedRickyB 8 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid Jake! the music is gr9 too!
@DeathValleyLumberCompany
@DeathValleyLumberCompany 8 жыл бұрын
thanks!
@pyrixthepythonoronion
@pyrixthepythonoronion 5 жыл бұрын
@@DeathValleyLumberCompany Why was a rusty train covered with wasps?
@renardgrise
@renardgrise 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent video... Loved the footage and enjoyed your music selection ;-). This video needs more views... I think you need to include "abandoned" in the title... seems to be popular click-bait word these days, but in your case it's genuine.
@DeathValleyLumberCompany
@DeathValleyLumberCompany 7 жыл бұрын
thanks I actually thought about putting abandoned on it but its not actually abandoned its owned by a man named Fred kepner
@renardgrise
@renardgrise 7 жыл бұрын
Ah! Does he have any plans for this equipment?
@DeathValleyLumberCompany
@DeathValleyLumberCompany 7 жыл бұрын
not at the moment he has been slowly restoring one of them but I doubt it will be finished
@thanhnam8435
@thanhnam8435 7 жыл бұрын
ТHIS ТООL FОR FRЕЕЕE SТEAМ МОNЕY IS ТТТТHЕ BЕSТ ОN ТHЕ ЕNТIRЕ WЕBSTОRЕ!!!>> stеаm еngine junk уаrd Mеrrill Оrеgоn
@chucksdesk
@chucksdesk 4 жыл бұрын
Great choice of music with your video. Enjoyed it
@inkslinger6156
@inkslinger6156 6 жыл бұрын
Alot of history in one spot. If these old steamers or trucks could talk. Nice video
@DeathValleyLumberCompany
@DeathValleyLumberCompany 6 жыл бұрын
the storys they would tell
@Searsnut11
@Searsnut11 8 жыл бұрын
Very very cool. I used to know a bit about this yard of forgotten iron, but the knowledge seems to have escaped me now. An awesome video indeed. Where did you find the audio for this video? Some pretty good tunes.
@DeathValleyLumberCompany
@DeathValleyLumberCompany 8 жыл бұрын
the first song is called cold frosty morning by Bela Fleck the 2nd one is called lonely coyote by the wayfarers the 3rd one is from this video, kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iM5znbx_sL6ypp8.html
@johnerikson7094
@johnerikson7094 7 жыл бұрын
Why doesn't someone purchase some of these engines and try to preserve them? IRM hasn't had a steam locomotive added to their collection in years. Heck, it doesn't have to run, it'd just be a nice display piece! You know, clean it up, put some paint on it, make it look pretty! And if at some point the bill fits, restore it to operating condition!
@DeathValleyLumberCompany
@DeathValleyLumberCompany 7 жыл бұрын
he is actually trying to work deals on a couple of these things multaple museums including sierra railroad are trying to aquire certain locos
@raymondleggs5508
@raymondleggs5508 7 жыл бұрын
IRM has tons of locomotives including ines with wheel arrangements that there are no operational locomotives of like 0-8-0, I do think there is a FEC 0-8-0 that is being restored to operate.
@gravelydon7072
@gravelydon7072 7 жыл бұрын
Raymond Leggs, Was being restored. The person who owned it died several years ago and the place it was stored forced its removal. There is a youtube video of it making the trip. It is on a friendly railroad so there still is a chance for it. That railroad just bought back one of it's former locos and is going to restore it back to operable condition.
@DeathValleyLumberCompany
@DeathValleyLumberCompany 7 жыл бұрын
where can I get more info? I cant seem to find anything
@travelingtom923
@travelingtom923 7 жыл бұрын
I remember having debates about these locomotives 20 years ago. There was a lot of interest in several North West railway museums and quite a few private collectors. I know it was next to impossible to get photographs of these locomotives as people were never allowed on the property. Many people even wondered if they still existed. I think the only people that ever made any headway with Fred is the Mount Rainier railroad. I noticed one of their tenders on the property so I imagine they made a trade along with some cash for something.
@DeathValleyLumberCompany
@DeathValleyLumberCompany 7 жыл бұрын
I heard railtown1897 wanted something from him and collected LOTS of money but he wouldn't budge it was probably like pulling teeth for Fred to get rid of something
@Traingamer5
@Traingamer5 6 жыл бұрын
Traveling Tom what MRSR equipment do you see I can't find anything
@travelingtom923
@travelingtom923 6 жыл бұрын
I am not 100% sure but the tender at 2:09 sure looks like it came from the Mount Rainier scenic railroad. I know they had quite a bit of rolling stock rusting away including tenders, on a spur about 1/4 mile from the Mineral shop in the late 90's. The number 5 has a identical tender. Maybe they had a surplus tender for the #5 that they traded for something. Logging companies often kept tenders for fire fighting long after steam was dropped.
@SierraRailway
@SierraRailway 6 жыл бұрын
I don't know where people keep getting these rumors from. The tender you refer to belongs to Santa Maria Valley Railroad #100.
@troy4219
@troy4219 7 жыл бұрын
It's good to see OP&E 1 still around
@darioinfini
@darioinfini 4 жыл бұрын
So... not actually abandoned. I met Mr. Fleck and seen him in concert many times. He's a BEAST!
@DeathValleyLumberCompany
@DeathValleyLumberCompany 4 жыл бұрын
That's just his music, the owner of the steam engines is a different story
@donaldandlelawatson6988
@donaldandlelawatson6988 4 жыл бұрын
When I was 8 years old I rode on a train in mcnary az the engine pulling us was no36 and 100 was sitting next to it we then they both were on the White Mountain Railroad. It was truly one of the best day of my life. We went on the trip and stopped and had a steak and potatoes lunch then back on the trip through scenery that makes you love the outdoors. Miss it very much
@daylightbigboy
@daylightbigboy 6 жыл бұрын
GN 1246 is kind of a rare one, not too much GN stuff still around considering the size of the road.
@fabio40
@fabio40 5 жыл бұрын
Reading 2100's auxiliary tender is ex-Great Northern. It looks very similar to this one.
@navelriver
@navelriver 6 жыл бұрын
I had no idea such things still existed! National treasure!
@1984wcooper
@1984wcooper 7 жыл бұрын
Love the music
@oregonwesternrailroadprodu5239
@oregonwesternrailroadprodu5239 6 жыл бұрын
Jeez I didn't realize we had all these here
@mwand89
@mwand89 7 жыл бұрын
I hope all of these rusty steam engines are saved, overhauled, and restored. They are never worth being scrapped.
@DeathValleyLumberCompany
@DeathValleyLumberCompany 7 жыл бұрын
dont worry, its a very low chance of that happening, but its also a low chance of them running any time soon D:
@donkirk6829
@donkirk6829 7 жыл бұрын
I know that over the years, people has commented that they have tried to get some of those engines from Fred and the price they were quoted, was more than the price you can get a working steam locomotive for. Yreka found out about Fred still claiming he owned them and wanted to sell then when his lawyer put an ad out, offering them for sale. I contacted YWRR and they said the YWRR owned them and no-way was anyone going to remove them from their property. After YWRR went bankrupt, the cars were sold and scrapped; without offering them for sale to museums, tourist railroads or collectors. There are a couple cars left (only one on trucks); and the New Milwaukee Road Railway Co. wants them and has a GoFundMe donation account. www.gofundme.com/reopening-milwaukee-road-line-in-sd
@battle604
@battle604 2 жыл бұрын
A few months ago all the equipment was sold to different railroad museums
@b3j8
@b3j8 4 жыл бұрын
At 3:09, that's a track cart sitting on another one behind the Speeder. My buddy had one he bought from a railroader. I'd love to rebuild that Speeder too! Some priceless pieces here waiting, hopefully, to someday be rebuilt and run.
@DeathValleyLumberCompany
@DeathValleyLumberCompany 4 жыл бұрын
If everything goes to plan most of this stuff will see the lime light again eventually, all in due time
@obfuscated3090
@obfuscated3090 6 жыл бұрын
They aren't worth cutting up for steel and they are in a reasonably safe location. Anyone with serious money should hire an investigator to contact the owner, but don't bother if all you have is dreams. Cash talks and the hull cost will be a lot less than replacing boilers and machine shop work to return "locomotive shaped objects" to runners. Anyone with less money should consider donating to existing operations elsewhere. Everyone wants to see live steam in action but far fewer will help make it happen.
@garycrawford9959
@garycrawford9959 Жыл бұрын
Just found this video again. Glen Alden #28 once ran at Pine Creek RR when they were located north of Freehold NJ on Route 9. It had some quirks that Pine Creek couldn't afford to repair back then, so they passed on the deal to take it.
@kellingc
@kellingc 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting. Do you have a song list? I really the first two, especially. I love seeing history like this, if it isn't being restored or operational.
@DeathValleyLumberCompany
@DeathValleyLumberCompany 6 жыл бұрын
the first song is called frosty morning by bella fleck, the second one is lonely coyote by the wayfarers
@marblesjn
@marblesjn 7 жыл бұрын
I hope some museums can acquire these engines and tenders.
@CSXEMDTrainLover
@CSXEMDTrainLover 8 жыл бұрын
awesome train video
@MNGuitars
@MNGuitars 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome friggin music
@jfreelan1964
@jfreelan1964 6 жыл бұрын
I wonder how many other places around the U.S. have private steam junk yards, like this?
@tylerbonser7686
@tylerbonser7686 5 жыл бұрын
2
@jackjohnson9449
@jackjohnson9449 5 жыл бұрын
I rode inside a steam locomotive once. It was the most thrilling experience of my life, like riding in a bomb.
@DeathValleyLumberCompany
@DeathValleyLumberCompany 5 жыл бұрын
I've operated a locomotive 🤠, I have no words to describe my enjoyment of it
@jackjohnson9449
@jackjohnson9449 5 жыл бұрын
I was standing behind one of two engineers in this Shayen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yosemite_Mountain_Sugar_Pine_Railroad
@daveydoodle86
@daveydoodle86 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Saw 2-6-2 105's tender but didn't see it in your video unless I missed it?
@Michael-eg3rs
@Michael-eg3rs 7 жыл бұрын
or just the tender is still standing.if so I think the 105 met every steamers nightmare.
@daylightbigboy
@daylightbigboy 6 жыл бұрын
105 and her tender are there. The tender is the one that says VSP&SSR or something like that on the tender, I can't remember the road off hand. It was a tourist line that ran in the 60s and 70s somewhere up in Oregon. The whole line has since been ripped up. I've got a United brass model of the same engine :)
@SarahLowrey
@SarahLowrey Жыл бұрын
Located just south of Merrill, Oregon. I checked these out when I lived nearby in 2007.
@trainsbignsmall
@trainsbignsmall 3 жыл бұрын
I have a feeling a couple historical societies would want to restore one or two of the locomotives there for static or operational use. Cool video.
@stupidsmart-phone6911
@stupidsmart-phone6911 3 жыл бұрын
Like I was telling ya, there was a day when a dump had quality. And by God, the trash in this country has gone to hell.
@ilgiusto6885
@ilgiusto6885 3 жыл бұрын
Very cool !!! Hi from Italy
@charleslambiase5670
@charleslambiase5670 3 жыл бұрын
So cool how this stuff is intact
@Turitea
@Turitea 6 жыл бұрын
All restorable, just need finance and cooperation from the owner. I have seen locos in New Zealand in far worse condition pulled from riverbeds totally restored.
@donkirk6829
@donkirk6829 7 жыл бұрын
From what I've heard in the past, Fred has offered units before; but at an extremely out in space price. Then there's the issue of the passenger cars that went to the YWRR. The railroad claimed they bought them and Kepner said he only loaned the cars to them (that's what I've been told). Our hope is that when he finally passes on, someone will want to sell them at a reasonalbe price; and that they are worth restoring. I've seen a couple of them when they sat at the Cottage Grove Depot along I-5. That was in early 2000's and in bad condition then.
@donkirk6829
@donkirk6829 7 жыл бұрын
There is one YWRR passenger car left and one or two baggage cars (the one for sure is on wheels). Beings that i most likely will have a need for them on an abandoned line that I am a in talks to get, I began talks with the current management of the YWRR about them and he said to offer a price. I'm going down in two weeks to Redding; and will stop and inspect them while in-route either too or from Redding. Anyone know their condition; and also their value. Only the passenger car has trucks and is on live rail. The baggage car is on trucks but on isolated rail and another car (if it's not the Amtrak unit, that's not for sale), is not on' trucks, but sits on blocks. Give me an idea as to their condition and worth. I really am going to work to get them. Need some YWRR units saved and operated in tourist or museum service.
@DeathValleyLumberCompany
@DeathValleyLumberCompany 7 жыл бұрын
they are in poor shape this past summer we went up there and saw what was left of the place the cars are mussing interior parts and have been vandalized including broken windows but there not to far gone! easily repaired
@stuartadamsrailfanningvideos
@stuartadamsrailfanningvideos 4 жыл бұрын
@@DeathValleyLumberCompany Those cars at YWRR have been sold to the Oregon Coast Scenic Railroad (OCSR).
@NaYawkr
@NaYawkr 5 жыл бұрын
What could actually make sense would be to take the biggest most powerful steam locomotives ever built, the NY Central Niagara's, and build new ones fed with oil, not high polluting coal, and make use of all the modern alloys, and technologies to make them as powerful as any modern diesel electric locomotive. That way they could actually make money for their owners. It'd be a worthy challenge if nothing else with a plausible goal.
@dadnyfur
@dadnyfur 4 жыл бұрын
Dude, great video!
@DeathValleyLumberCompany
@DeathValleyLumberCompany 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you found enjoyment in It! I feel honored to even be able to see this stuff
@lineshaftrestorations7903
@lineshaftrestorations7903 7 жыл бұрын
It is criminal to allow these artifacts to be in this condition. You cannot buy it but I am not going to do anything with it.
@organbuilder272
@organbuilder272 6 жыл бұрын
It is called - The DOg in the manger. I can't ( won't) do anything with it and you can't have it either.
@Itsaboutthewaterlife
@Itsaboutthewaterlife 6 жыл бұрын
robert shaw: thanks: took me awhile to figure it out.
@SteamCrane
@SteamCrane 6 жыл бұрын
Satellite shows something else on the rails between the feed store and the highway. It looks like a crane and boom car, and a passenger car. Did you get shots of it,or was it not there when you visited?
@DeathValleyLumberCompany
@DeathValleyLumberCompany 6 жыл бұрын
I did film them but I never got around to putting them in this video
@robertlloyd7167
@robertlloyd7167 6 жыл бұрын
I've seen it. It's a 150-ton steam crane that belonged to Southern Pacific in Klamath Falls. They were going to scrap it until Fred talked them out of it. They moved it down there for him and there it sits, with everything else. Sierra 38 was built new for Weyerhauser's Klamath Falls operation as their #4, so it's cool she's back "home". It breaks my heart to see her just rusting away. I've spoken with Fred a half-dozen times about getting grant money and some volunteers to help get at least one of those engines going again, but it's like talking to a brick wall. I'm afraid that when he passes they'll just get cut up. What a shame.
@stevenmitchell5435
@stevenmitchell5435 5 жыл бұрын
@@DeathValleyLumberCompany how did you get in touch with Fred to get permission to look at the engines??
@DeathValleyLumberCompany
@DeathValleyLumberCompany 5 жыл бұрын
@@stevenmitchell5435 the only way to contact him is to drive out there and talk to him as he doesn't have a phone or a computer
@br0th3rtub34
@br0th3rtub34 5 жыл бұрын
Holy crap that’s a lot of trains
@lastswordfighter
@lastswordfighter 6 жыл бұрын
There's enough parts to build a few running engines or few static engines. A few hybrid classes are in order.
@joeypincombe8384
@joeypincombe8384 7 жыл бұрын
Saratoga and north creek branch railroad upstate new york could always use a couple steam locomotives and that Teddy Roosevelt receved the letter that he was sworn in as president 1901. true story
@donaldappelhof2059
@donaldappelhof2059 6 жыл бұрын
Even the best locomotive he has would cost a million dollars to restore. Sad to see them rot.
@darrelldamon2745
@darrelldamon2745 4 жыл бұрын
They have served their purpose and are now retired, imagine that
@angelicamonk7058
@angelicamonk7058 4 жыл бұрын
Cause of Big Oil diesel killed AMERICA
@3392chipmunk
@3392chipmunk 6 жыл бұрын
The late great Bill School. would have loved this place 1:1 engine conversions!!!!
@allanegleston4931
@allanegleston4931 3 жыл бұрын
i remember seeing # 38 WHOLE at railtown, that was a long long time ago.also remember 18 there too. neat on the pickering equipent.
@gravelydon7072
@gravelydon7072 7 жыл бұрын
Sad seeing Pickering # 8 like that. I saw Steamtown's Meadow River # 1 when I was there 16 years ago. It is in worse shape than #8 and even it could be restored with enough money. But that is the problem with almost all RR museums, lack of funds or management who runs off those that have them. And I'm sure Cass knows about #8. ;-) They lost Bemis Lumber Co 3256 to the NC Transportation Museum when they couldn't get the overload permits they needed to get it out of NC many years ago.
@DeathValleyLumberCompany
@DeathValleyLumberCompany 7 жыл бұрын
it would be neat to see it go out to cass who knows where she will end up.
@DeathValleyLumberCompany
@DeathValleyLumberCompany 7 жыл бұрын
any plans to restore meadow river #1?
@gravelydon7072
@gravelydon7072 7 жыл бұрын
They said I could come up and work on it any time I wanted. But it likely will never be restored there. It isn't a PA loco and really would be out of place there except for display or switching duties. Not sure I can still fit in my green Steamtown overalls but I can still fit the NPS/Steamtown volunteer hat.;-)
@DeathValleyLumberCompany
@DeathValleyLumberCompany 7 жыл бұрын
lol it should come out here to OERM
@DeathValleyLumberCompany
@DeathValleyLumberCompany 7 жыл бұрын
do you think it would be available?
@brendanstrains9725
@brendanstrains9725 3 жыл бұрын
we need to save these engines there is a lot of locomotives. Pickering lumber #8 should go to the mt rainer scenic if it was opening and could be a running mate to Pickering lumber #11. A good place for 38, 18, 36 would be at rail town 1897.
@jp-um2fr
@jp-um2fr 6 жыл бұрын
The Uk was late in using diesels and the mad rush to convert meant many good steam engines were parked for scrap. The chap who bought a lot of them had plenty of other work and kept them. Most are now either running again or being renovated. The UK is only a small island and steam trains are quite common, even on main lines. There is a brand new one - the A1 class Tornado - and there is going to be more. In April 2017 it was the first steam engine to clock 100 mph in over 50 years. They are all owned by clubs and Trusts. Are we mad ? Of course, what other way to live is there.
@Napsteraspx
@Napsteraspx 6 жыл бұрын
A good amount of museum pieces. A few of those a re ready to be scrapped though.
@DeathValleyLumberCompany
@DeathValleyLumberCompany 6 жыл бұрын
they are auctually in pretty good shape but are dissasembuled, some of the parts can be seen at 2:48
@MFOProbinsyanoGTAFanTV
@MFOProbinsyanoGTAFanTV 7 жыл бұрын
We never had these trains in the Philippines, but we have only urban trains.
@RobertBOUSKILL
@RobertBOUSKILL 5 жыл бұрын
Where I live there was probably a hundred steam engines parked close together and all of them were cut up for scrap to feed Stelco's furnaces. Some were less than ten years old. I was a boy then and did not know how to save them. Lucky you are far from a steel mill.
@DeathValleyLumberCompany
@DeathValleyLumberCompany 5 жыл бұрын
Where on gods green earth was this!?!?
@RobertBOUSKILL
@RobertBOUSKILL 5 жыл бұрын
Hamilton, Ontario, Canada. Engines built in late 1940's were scrapped in late 1950's even though they were built to last eighty years. One new engine was set aside as a reserve for the old engine in service and had no revenue miles and was scrapped. All victims of the open hearth.
@danielross1033
@danielross1033 3 жыл бұрын
Never knew that these existed in Oregon still I hope that they are never scrapped they are a lost relic of a simpler time they will hopefully be restored and even one day put to use again I won’t be surprised if steam engines make a comeback one day
@justinvasko3577
@justinvasko3577 7 жыл бұрын
Those Shays are quite a marvel
@timothytrainful
@timothytrainful 6 жыл бұрын
I kinda want to see what inside some of cabs. Kinda Carius what they look like. Yes it would be nice to have few millions to fix up at least one or two of them just to bring them back and running again
@arbuthnotmumsboy8178
@arbuthnotmumsboy8178 4 жыл бұрын
Had a quick look through the comments and was surprised nobody had mention Dai Woodham and the Barry Island miracle here in the UK. Check it out. Great video, thank you sir.
@SunnySelena420
@SunnySelena420 3 жыл бұрын
Where in Oregon is this exactly. I don't know of you still answer questions but I'd love to go here.
@deaustin4018
@deaustin4018 4 жыл бұрын
this would make an interesting "life after people" scenario - how long before they're dust blown away by the wind
@johnmoar7658
@johnmoar7658 4 жыл бұрын
LOVE TO LIVE THERE,SOMETHING TO DO ALL THE TIME
@nhgypsy65
@nhgypsy65 6 жыл бұрын
What a sad little graveyard.
@skyhawk401
@skyhawk401 2 жыл бұрын
If these locomotives could tell their stories, I’d listen all day.
@GSMRFan
@GSMRFan 4 жыл бұрын
That great northern beauty needs to be steaming again. It is calling my name.
@jonfoy6477
@jonfoy6477 5 жыл бұрын
When the wind hits the mic it's like an echo of their puffs
@garywheeler7039
@garywheeler7039 4 жыл бұрын
Squirt some oil into the joints once in a while and eventually, someone will realize that these things are no longer being produced, and have value! Help preserve our history!
@mrtrainmaster8007
@mrtrainmaster8007 Жыл бұрын
Santa Maria Valley locomotive 100 is currently being restored to operating condition at the Virginia & Truckee Railroad.
@joebarber4030
@joebarber4030 3 жыл бұрын
Been there, a step back in time for sure
@Wiseguy1408
@Wiseguy1408 8 жыл бұрын
The last time I saw Sierra #38, May '94, she was at McCloud, CA in about the same condition. The next time I was at McCloud, the area where she had been was no longer accessible. I've wondered what happened to her, now I know.
@DeathValleyLumberCompany
@DeathValleyLumberCompany 8 жыл бұрын
did she ever run at McCloud?
@Wiseguy1408
@Wiseguy1408 8 жыл бұрын
I can't say for sure, but I don't think so.
@DeathValleyLumberCompany
@DeathValleyLumberCompany 8 жыл бұрын
I think sierra railroad wants to purchase this locomotive
@DeathValleyLumberCompany
@DeathValleyLumberCompany 8 жыл бұрын
and the 18
@SierraRailway
@SierraRailway 7 жыл бұрын
The Sierra Railroad would like to have their own operating steam locomotive to pull their dinner trains, but unfortunately lack the funding and paid professionals to do so. They already have former Southern Pacific 0-6-0 #1227 that they had been working on, but all work seems to have stopped. Its safe to say they are no longer seriously considering rebuilding the locomotive, or purchasing another one. Railtown 1897 would be more than pleased to have any of the Sierra engines (besides 38, because she is too large and in too rough of shape) but they lack a major coordinated effort to raise funds to make a serious offer on any of them. I would love to see the 18 come home to Jamestown and run again, but I'd be lucky to see that happen during my lifetime.
@smuckerooney
@smuckerooney 5 жыл бұрын
There is something terribly sad about this. Excellent video though.
@DeathValleyLumberCompany
@DeathValleyLumberCompany 5 жыл бұрын
I see it as a good thing, they could end up in parks and rust like crazy, but they are sitting in a dry climate waiting for a new home, a few are forsale as well
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