Such A broken system thanks to governor gruesome...

That’s what happens when NEWSOME ate PG & e’s food at the laundry restaurant 😂

Do not blame utilities. This is 100% result of CA government. Claim there’s a problem when there isn’t one. Creates a “fix” to said problem. Then the solution creates a problem and government has to fix it again.

I’m a solar contractor. It’s over. PUC killed it. Nobody is buying solar anymore. 15 years in business over.

Utilities want you to pay, period. You install solar, you will pay. Is that the reason?

Solar is only for people who can build/install/maintain it themselves. If you don't OWN your system you have to deal with money hungry companies. And because the components got ridiculously cheap in the last decade (panels, batteries etc) there's no excuse not to be energy independent. And no, I'm NOT rich (poverty level income) and have no formal education in engineering or electricity. Yet, I run my place on 100% solar energy all year long for 14 years now.

The CPUC never seems to do much to benefit consumers.

I use solar in Texas with absolutely no incentives. It has value to me for disaster recovery and I also use it to lower my air conditioning bill. Power companies are trying to strangle solar before it destroys them.

This video completely ignores the reasons for changing from NEM 2 to 3. 1 to 1 credits are no longer feasible due to our own success in solar adoption.

Rule of thumb I tell people, install should be less than $3 per watt BEFORE tax incentives and it needs to pay for itself in less than 10 years. The going rate for residential solar PV install in California I've been seeing is around $2-$2.50 per watt installed BEFORE tax incentives. Most of the costs associated with Solar PV in the USA are related to soft costs as the hardware and labor is at most a $1.5 per watt installed.

can we use plastic straws again?

Without incentives, prices will come down. So yes, get rid of all incentives and government backed stufent loans.

And they wondering why our climate change and storms in places never happened before.. Greedy politicians and industry have been making decisions about our future..

NO NO NO, Solar was always meant to be used “Off grid” that’s means do not connect to Babylons grid, you can’t win playing their game

nice story, but what are the numbers that these two sides are using to make these decisions? Hard to tell which side is 'full of it' without the details.

it’s a good thing. solar was too heavily subsidized. the outrageous NEM rates and policy (using the grid as a battery), coupled with the transfer of residential tax credits to solar providers, made it a mad rush to escape utility bills. the unavoidable grid costs are shifted to everyone else who are lower income, lower credit customers. it was the worst type of public policy-subsidizing the wealthy for something the wealthy wouldn’t do unless they had short pay back period. the chickens have come home to roost.

Woman is complaining free subsidies did not last forever when the state is bankrupt, which is probably the entire basis for the emergency pricing adjustment.

Why should non-solar customers pay for those wealthy enough to install solar.

6:40 That would be Gov. Newsom, he is our favorite dictator.

in the video they said the new rates only apply to new customers. Then why is the family in the story that has had panels for 20 years have to pay the new rates? moments before in the video they said the new pricing would only affect new customers

Everyone in the U.S. still receives the 30% Federal ITC for their solar system, Cal. customers just need to add a battery, which is better than net-metering anyway. Cal has an overcapacity issue from solar, pretty much every day, so their grid really doesn't need more solar on the grid in peak times, so dump the excess solar in a battery for nighttime, and you're good.

Solar panels are too expensive to begin with, my new house came with mandatory solar panels. Thanks to California law, i had to pay $20k for a 4kva system, that pau off is in 25 years. Thats robbery

If California had to build more power plants isn't that more costly and time consuming than subsidizing solar? Also why isnt there a net savings from not having to add cost because of solar

Thank God I live in AZ where my solar panels get me large credits every month!! I haven't had a bill on my electricity in over a year and I run my AC Unit 24/7.

You can tell the reporters didn’t do their homework in this segment. Back in 2022, there was a proceeding before the California Public Utilities Commission (PUC) to “reform” net energy metering (NEM) tariffs. A number of parties warned the PUC that the planned NEM tariff changes, e.g., reducing compensation rates for electricity exported by home owners who had installed solar panels, charging long time solar panel owners a net benefits charge, etc., would make future installation of solar panels by other home owners far less attractive. The primary rationale for these short-sighted changes was literally “equity”. The parties seeking to change NEM (ALL Left-leaning environmental and SJW groups) justified proposed changes on the need to reduce what they called a “cost shift” impacting “poorer and nonwhite ratepayers” who had not yet installed solar panels on their homes. I kid you not that was literally what several parties submitted as justifications in the administrative proceeding. The Commission approved almost all the so-called NEM tariff reforms these groups wanted. Now the solar panel market in California is in disarray with demand substantially reduced. Given California’s higher than the norm electricity rates, one would think maybe more homeowners would opt to install solar panels. The fact that they’re not doing so speaks volumes.

And just wait until you need a roofing job. Oh My! A bit short sighted, are we?

If solar technology was cost effective it wouldn't need to depend on incentives from the electric company and would be beneficial on its own. Think about it its benefits are dependent on thr same industry it claims to replace.

Incentives. Basically you create a market where the customers have to be bribed to purchase the product. If the product isn't self supporting in the free market system, then it's a drain on the economy. If you want solar, fine, but pay for it with your money!

Just pay a fair price for the electricity back fed into the grid

Those residential solar owners have been had a free ride for years on using the grid. Stop whining.

Should I pay 15% more for electricity? It’s a better savings to replace my windows and roof plus replace my old furnace with heat pump. The ROI is better.

Same situation on EV’s. CA push hard for EV’s, but now want to punish the same drivers by charging 3 cents per mile driven, now that CA no longer gets tax monies from gas stations. 🤦🏻‍♂️

The argument that non solar users are subsidizing solar users is garbage. Your bills continue to go up, because I am not using the grid for my power? Thats like saying gas prices are going up because I use a bike to get to work. Even if it is true, too bad. You are paying for you. My investment is paying for me.

I'm off grid still in california but I'm on my rural land with solar generator I'd rather live my life with out pge they just want are money go back and look how much pge charged in the 80s you will be amazed

Of course it’s worth it. You’re saving the planet, not saving money. :)

Photovoltaic electricity generation is nearly worthless unless charging storage. Wholesale electricity purchased a day head in the midwest offseason is less than $0.03 kWh. That is grid quality electricity. Southern California has the most expensive grid electricity in the USA with bankrupt power grids and blackouts. It is a forced sale of solar photovoltaic electricity to the power grid from the homeowner. The power grid can not decline it. It is not steady grid quality electricity. It needs high availability of makeup electricity running at high fuel costs. There is much less saving on fuel than the percentage of renewable energy claims being used. What has taken place is a much more costly electricity for everybody when including the cost of the solar panels. Those photovoltaic panels are only marginally economically viable with large government subsidies. The wind and solar industry is now very mature. It is not going to get major steps in becoming more affordable. Nothing except chaging storage can make these sources of electricity dispatchable electricity. If they could have storage of 4 hours that would make them a fuel saving alternative, but they don't do that. With the cost of storage included in the total cost then a representative cost comparison can be made.

Solar NEEDS government subsidies to survive, not a Joke, 😄😄😄😄😂😂😂😂

Way too many crybabies out there! I bought my own equipment and paid cash for it, about $13,000. Me and my electrician friend installed it. I put the battery based solar system in non-export mode so I never push power to the grid and screw those guys! I am not even going to tell my electric utility what I am doing because again, I never push power into the grid. I took my 30% tax credit on the $13,000 And my solar system charges batteries all day long and then my batteries discharge in the evening to offset any power consumption that would have otherwise come from the grid. I am currently saving about $3000 per year. That is a break even point of three years!! Screw the government and screw your electric utilities and do it yourself and take your 30% tax credit because the IRS will never check on you! Stop crying about government handouts!

They want the economy to get worse by cutting jobs and have people behind on their bills causing late fees. Also you creating free electricity for the grid so they can sell it back to you or your neighbors at a higher price. It’s a Win Win for utilities.

Install batteries go off grid Pay nothing

So we disincentivized people to go solar, while requiring no more gas cars be sold in California by 2035. I guess the politicians don’t know how much electricity an electric car really uses. So where are we going to get all of this electricity to charge up all the new electric cars in the next 10 years. The utility companies all ready ask electric car owners to not charge their cars in the middle of the day when there’s a heat wave because there’s not enough power for all the air conditioners and the current number of electric cars to be charging. California is broken!

made a mistake by voting for Newsom

Train wreck report. Doesn’t explain either side. New rules were needed because too much power generated when it’s not needed. New rules are meant to encourage batteries. Little to no mention nor explanation about it.

Yeah the policy goes against our goals. A place like Germany is well over 30% solar already due to friendly policy. We just can’t help but extort ourselves.. even when it goes against it stated goals of carbon neutrality!

It's PGE screw them

NREL reports all in cots of residential Solar at $3/watt. Industrial size solar farms are 1/3rd the price $1/watt. Why pay three times as much for something. Yes the subsidies are ridiculous and raise overall grid costs. See CA and ZtX for more details.

Then we keep the power.

They will still vote blue. The cognitive dissonance is astounding.

Government trying find ways to tax you for it. If you’re of the grid you’ll definitely need it.

Keep showing a house roof covered in trees.

When I drive around where I live they are building new home everywhere, most of themes have solar, the funny thing is more than half of those homes the panels face the wrong way, but they did get to check off that they have solar.

They need to keep this program going!

its not worth it unless you electric bill is over $500 a month

If only people could afford to buy a solar system and Install them them self

Nobody tells you about the True Up. Getting solar was a big mistake.

If you want a negative reason to going solar then look to Australia. The power companies have started making a charge for taking the excess power from the house, so you have to pay them to export??????? That really makes it a worthwhile project. 😮 They do not want you to be outside the system whatsoever.

Utility scale solar, wind, and storage are the real green solutions. Residential rooftop solar is less about "going green" and more about politics and independence. If you want to go "off-the-grid", do it. However, small piecemeal personally owned solar panels are difficult to centrally manage and integrate into the grid. If you really care about the environment, switch to an EV, swap out gas appliances, and invest in clean energy companies.

California should clear the path for solar installations and than let contractors bundle up the cost of an entire off grid system into a monthly payment like a car payment. Than consumers just pay a monthly bill like paying the utilities but they are generating and storing their own power

Which is why when there is a subsidy you want to look at the cost without the subsidy as it can be removed at anytime. You have to decide if you are willing to take on that cost before getting into bed with the government.

Solar fan boys. I don't have Solar so my roof is not damaged plus I keep.30 plus grand in my bank account and my electric and gas bill together with all fees cost me 77 average a month. Solar is a waste of money unless you are off grid. Would rather pay for a whole house generator powered by nat gas. .

With the decline in Commiefornia period….. why stay?

Home owners are realizing that solar energy during the day is pretty much matching the total demand for the state lol, and their inefficient system can't really match large scale deployment in deserts..

Get Newsom out ASAP California!!!!

Thanks governor 🖕

In Texas I asked how much to install 50 solar panels (305watt) on the ground and the electrician said $50K. Solar panels in 2024 cost $200 for a 400watt panel. Why the installers need so much money to install?

So now it’s not a good idea for Cali to go green? Aren’t they the leader we are all supposed to follow?

The systems being pushed in California are priced double for double the output needed and pretending the cost of electricity has risen historically at 20% per year and will continue to do so forever. They are offering these systems with 25 year mortgages. Our house is 600 Sq ft living space, modern, well insulated, all electric with mini split heating/cooling, Marvin windows, launder cold water only, everything lighting is LED, run our dishwasher every other night after 9 pm. We drive a Prius for crying out loud. Haven't we suffered enough?] The payment for the "no money down" system will start at about $200 per month, going to about double that over the 25 years leaving you with a worn out system you have paid 90 grand for. I am 78 years old. If they can promise me good health for the next 50 years, enjoying KZfaq and the price is right, I'll do it.

They should also cut the subsidies to low income families.

If we treat this like sports, we would have replaced these people in power instantly and turn them into none profit

I thought many installed solar to reduce their carbon footprint, I guess it was all about the money all along.

Freedom Forever offers a “Production guarantee which would’ve earned these people a reimbursement for the 7 months their system wasn’t functioning. Let me know if I can help you save money on a solar system with immediate saving on a “Power Purchase Agreement “.

Selling and buying from solar should be one for one... I'm lucky im on NEM 1.0, zero chance i would buy it these days...

That’s what happen when you vote blue.

They should pay you close to what you pay for a kwh. Selfish jerks. Meanwhile power bills keep going up. Yet they claim there is too much solar ? Why is peak power prices during the day then ??

Everybody wants something for nothing, if you can afford it get a battery.

It’s the same as every business. They lure you in then the con you.

Tesla owners are sweating

I knew there was maintenance need to be done on the solor cells and can be unreliable. 3:35

P.U.C members are appointed by the governor, need I say more.

Every home on the Block is an industrial power station selling power at premium price to those who can't afford solar panels to pay for the system with the side benefit of free electricity while over producing. Apps that push electricity out of the battery when the rate is high and charge the battery when the rate is low karma in a deregulated Market algorithms selling your power at the highest price with premium systems. Size right to handle your air conditioning and basics with a basic system without all the intellectual property applications consuming all the power that you make within the month during the month are the candles on the cake. Selling power to the grid is unsustainable at 30 cents a kilowatt I was going solar is supposed to make Power cost go down not up for everybody. My state regulated solar power plant a place upon me is called the dream rate. I don't need a battery, would I deliver is held into reserve on my credit until the end of the month and what I don't use I get 8 cents a kilowatt compared to the 22-cent rate everybody pays that is not industrial. It makes sense for me to use what I produce and if I use a little bit extra it's a really small bill, there is no profit to pay for the system except for the savings. I bought it with cash installed it myself the electric utility inspected it and I could have just burned the money some other way and like all money it's gone, and my savings continue. Electric heat pump instead of fuel oil in the spring and fall. My savings have been immense and I am thrilled with no tax rebate or anything, especially credit. Buying it on credit destroys everything and requires such a high price. Start with four panels instead of 40, paying cash money that you might have spent at the casino and lost. Buying on credit is the destroyer of all of it, transferring the bill to those who can least afford it was a mysterious mathematical magical credit that equals money and eternal debt plus interest. You think you have bought it but in actuality the credit company owns it and is using you to get rich as you similarly hope to be. Who doesn't want an electric meter bringing in $1,000 a month.

Unintentionally deceptive report. Let me explain . . . There are 2 entities regarding solar power. 1) The industry representing home solar installers, that wants to continue putting solar panels on homes, with home owners taking out loans to finance the solar panels, and paying them off over decades 2) The group that wants to build industrial level solar farms in the desert, that along with wind and battery storage will replace all natural gas power plants . . . There is an argument that the "industrial" production of energy via solar, wind, and battery storage will "far exceed" the energy production of putting solar on individual homes. So why invest millions of dollars to 'subsidize' the home solar industry, when it's not going to benefit the majority of California homeowners (just the handful of wealthy individuals who put solar on their homes) . . . I believe the PUC took that stance. There is a much bigger upside to the industrial production of energy (and if you follow someone like Tony Seba, he suggests that ultimately grid level battery storage technology will offset the need to create an infinite amount of solar generation) . . . Some of the people in this report represent the traditional "home solar installation" industry (and the financing industry connected to it), and many companies will go out of business as the industry shifts from home based solar to industrial level energy production . . . Thus, when I say the report is "unintentionally deceptive," I'm saying that it doesn't clearly distinguish between the "2 sides" (home solar vs industrial solar) - They are 2 competing ecosystems, and if industrial solar wins out (as PUC is betting on) it will deplete the home solar industry from what it was 5 years ago . . . The good news is that if solar, wind, battery can produce at projected levels, everyone's energy bill will drop significantly over the next 10 years.

Leave it to CA to f*** up a good thing with reducing the incentives. What happens when you have replace your roof in 30 yrs? How much more with that add to the cost when roofer has to remove panels? There goes your electricity savings into a roofers pockets.

Bait and Switch!

what happens when it hails...?

Bait and switch. Heck no!

No it’s not….

You can tell the Californians that moved to my state as they quickly put solar on their roofs and have three or four cars parked on the driveway and street.

We have had a small 3.5 KW system for 22 years. The key is to keep your electricity use down. We have a TV the size of a computer screen. Our appliances are energy efficient. Instead of a whole house A/C, we have mini splits in each room and only have it on when we are in that room (and it is hot enough to need it). Our electric bill is currently in the negative (-$63). Part of that is California is giving two $75 incentives this year. That pays for the monthly connection fees. Still, I hope they change the laws to make more people want to put in solar. I have recently heard that solar panels will last 50 years.

Solar should be provided by government. No more power plants. Each home is a powerhouse..😮😊

I live in a 4 bedroom house in Florida. My annual electric bill is just under $1,100 a year. I’ll not live long enough for solar to pay for itself. I guess solar panels are good for holding your roof down in a hurricane but other than that I just don’t get it

Just like the push for Electric Vehicles…now the gas tax is declining and money disappearing as more EV are purchased. Same is the PG&E profits. Now they’re seeing less money and that can’t happen.

Its all a scam

Unions dont like solar

Solar installation itself is a big mistake anyway. Not much benefit - Southwest Sun Solar is the name of the company. They will tell you, the panels do not harvest enough. Why install panels that won’t do the job right? But of course they got the incentives as installer

Liberal govt. business as usual

Oops 😮

Electric companies got greedy. Solar was taking away their earnings. How is it reasonable to require all new homes have solar but it would take 10-15 years to break even under the new agreement? I have solar in Northern California and under the new agreement it costs me $0.14-0.34 kwh to purchase electricity but it only cost my utility company $0.07 to purchase the excess from me. installing a battery is not worth it at this time until there are more incentives to do so.

🤣🤣

Nice job democrats! Another loss for common sense and residents.

Solar should be provided by government. No more power plants. Each home is a powerhouse..😮😊