Man released after being sentenced to life in prison under Florida's felony murder rule

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ABC Action News

ABC Action News

22 күн бұрын

As the country celebrates America's Independence this 4th of July weekend, a man is celebrating his newfound freedom. At 41 years old, Ryan Holle was recently released from prison after spending more than half of his life locked up.

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@ivybee347
@ivybee347 19 күн бұрын
There are rapist and actual murderers walking free after serving less time than he did. Crazy.
@thanosdoomjuggernaut2846
@thanosdoomjuggernaut2846 18 күн бұрын
He knew he was doing. He should’ve called the cops when he found out what his friends were doing.
@Tortilla.Reform
@Tortilla.Reform 17 күн бұрын
@@thanosdoomjuggernaut2846 You're assuming he believed them and didn't think they were joking, get over yourself hahah
@derk3933
@derk3933 16 күн бұрын
He is an actual murderer.
@vincentsprung5810
@vincentsprung5810 15 күн бұрын
@ivybee347 Someone was literally murdered….
@heidicorzine1208
@heidicorzine1208 15 күн бұрын
​@@vincentsprung5810but he didn't do it
@ianbattles7290
@ianbattles7290 13 күн бұрын
The fact that you can go to prison for a murder *you didn't even know about* is complete insanity and a massive waste of taxpayer resources.
@flightforensics4523
@flightforensics4523 12 күн бұрын
😅
@freddyfasthands8131
@freddyfasthands8131 11 күн бұрын
I wonder how that works?
@00calimon
@00calimon 15 күн бұрын
Based on that logic, all car dealerships should be in prison for selling cars to criminals who purchased a vehicle from.
@chrisking1457
@chrisking1457 13 күн бұрын
If the criminal tells the dealership that they are buying it specifically to commit a felony then they would be if they still sold it.
@glow1815
@glow1815 13 күн бұрын
Right lol
@axer3515
@axer3515 13 күн бұрын
They should be in prison, but for different reasons. Lol
@Paco-c9h
@Paco-c9h 13 күн бұрын
@@chrisking1457they gotz to know exactly what felony fo that to happen
@chrisking1457
@chrisking1457 12 күн бұрын
@@Paco-c9h the guy in the video knew it was a home invasion. It would apply to anyone else that willingly helped it happen.
@danreyes736
@danreyes736 17 күн бұрын
Why aren’t the car manufacturers in prison also? No car built, no murder.
@Marynicole830
@Marynicole830 16 күн бұрын
Or the bar owner? No gathering place, no conspiracy, no murder. Or the tire brand? No tires, no movement, no murder?
@danreyes736
@danreyes736 16 күн бұрын
@@Marynicole830 agreed.
@mosimosi630
@mosimosi630 16 күн бұрын
It’s absolutely insane that he went to jail for that smfh
@trevessence
@trevessence 15 күн бұрын
What cruelty😢These ridiculous laws should be abolished.
@joedennehy386
@joedennehy386 14 күн бұрын
True,
@carolinematusevich889
@carolinematusevich889 19 күн бұрын
No car, no crime? Wtf? They would have just borrowed a different car on a different day to commit the crime. He should have never spent a day in jail.
@rockon8174
@rockon8174 19 күн бұрын
It makes sense. If they STOLE the car the owner would not be liable, but he WILLINGLY gave them the keys to his car making him an accessory. 😐
@edcapp7654
@edcapp7654 19 күн бұрын
If they rented a car would they jail the rental car company employees?
@ketapillar
@ketapillar 19 күн бұрын
If the victims mother didn't give birth there would not have been a murder. She should be in prison as well /s
@kingkoppa
@kingkoppa 19 күн бұрын
@@edcapp7654 I mean if they openly told tha employee why they wanted to rent tha car yea 😭
@Ghostwolf82
@Ghostwolf82 19 күн бұрын
@@rockon8174did they tell him what they were planning to do AS he loaned it to them? I’d argue that they got it from him under false pretences. 25 years for being tricked doesn’t ring to me as justifiable.
@SreyAun-sd1eb
@SreyAun-sd1eb 19 күн бұрын
WTF, whar a waste of taxpayer money. The prosecutor should be charged!
@robertjenkins6132
@robertjenkins6132 19 күн бұрын
You're mad at the prosecutor? Where do you think the prosecutor get his powers from him? You should be mad at the Florida lawmakers who enacted the provisions of the law.
@CN45475
@CN45475 19 күн бұрын
@@robertjenkins6132Every state has a felony murder rule and your taking his word over everyone else’s. He knew the robbery was going to happen when he loaned his car.
@cjjorge6636
@cjjorge6636 18 күн бұрын
FTL FDOJ!!!
@TheJingles007
@TheJingles007 17 күн бұрын
@@CN45475 where did it say that in the video?
@CN45475
@CN45475 17 күн бұрын
@@TheJingles007 The prosecutor said it in open court it’s on law & crime
@bellaluna2921
@bellaluna2921 18 күн бұрын
That law is B.S. !! And anyone with the same charge as this man should be released ASAP!!!
@mizzury54
@mizzury54 16 күн бұрын
Not all of them are completely innocent of wrongdoing. Each case is different. Most states have this same type of law but Florida's seems over the top.
@lindatimmons3675
@lindatimmons3675 16 күн бұрын
​@@mizzury54..... In Texas he may have already gotten DP
@user-rz4wz4my1f
@user-rz4wz4my1f 16 күн бұрын
He is lucky. He is a Caucasian. Thats why he got that Early Release. Any other shade. NO.
@TheAntistatist892
@TheAntistatist892 15 күн бұрын
​@@mizzury54ok boomer. Need more spacing between words.😂
@erictheawful69
@erictheawful69 15 күн бұрын
@@user-rz4wz4my1f🐎💩
@ianbattles7290
@ianbattles7290 13 күн бұрын
It's terrifying to think you can be convicted of Murder *even if you didn't kill anyone.*
@darylnd
@darylnd 12 күн бұрын
So you'll accept willful ignorance as a defense?
@jzero1579
@jzero1579 12 күн бұрын
@@darylnd Naive people
@aaronfreeman5264
@aaronfreeman5264 9 күн бұрын
@@darylnd Plausible Deniability, no. Was the assassin visibly drunk, when he borrowed the car?
@ianbattles7290
@ianbattles7290 6 сағат бұрын
​​@@darylndSo if he had lent sneakers to the actual killer who had walked to the crime scene, is he still guilty of murder? What about lending a bicycle to the actual killers? Would a taxi driver be guilty of murder for giving them a ride?
@RhondaAdams007
@RhondaAdams007 20 күн бұрын
Its about time. I'm a Retired Correctional Officer and the system is SO flawed. I am happy to see this young man outide those gates. Best wishes to you, Ryan. 🙏
@D-Nice358
@D-Nice358 19 күн бұрын
So if he didn't know & his friends never told him what they were going to do, would he still go to prison???
@grouchyoleguy
@grouchyoleguy 19 күн бұрын
​@@D-Nice358yup ...they locked him up for years
@D-Nice358
@D-Nice358 19 күн бұрын
@@grouchyoleguy wait did he have knowledge of the crime?? Or he didn't know about the crime??
@grouchyoleguy
@grouchyoleguy 19 күн бұрын
@@D-Nice358 he was woken up by roommate and asked for loan of his vehicle, others used his vehicle to commit horrible crime and prosecutor felt that if he hadn't loaned his car crime wouldn't have happened so he was just as guilty under the felony murder statue even though he was at home in bed when the crime occurred
@JohnEastmanExAttyAtLaw
@JohnEastmanExAttyAtLaw 19 күн бұрын
yea...as if he did not know, LOL. wanna buy a bridge?
@TheClevengers
@TheClevengers 19 күн бұрын
May he find purpose in his life outside of prison. ❤️
@cjjorge6636
@cjjorge6636 18 күн бұрын
he will just bs all the time in jail for bs i know FTL
@MadMomma-kj9ks
@MadMomma-kj9ks 14 күн бұрын
He had purpose but it was killed by a dumb law.
@chelseasummers2365
@chelseasummers2365 14 күн бұрын
This man should now receive compensation from the government. This is absolutely appalling!
@1962pjh
@1962pjh 13 күн бұрын
He didn't get his conviction overturned so, that can't happen.
@randolfo1265
@randolfo1265 13 күн бұрын
@@1962pjh - Not overturned yet so, time to get a lawyer.
@xo_coco_xo471
@xo_coco_xo471 12 күн бұрын
He’s dead now I think. Check the other comments
@PaulaDautremont
@PaulaDautremont 12 күн бұрын
@@1962pjh That is probably in the works.
@lindzbreezyoh
@lindzbreezyoh 10 күн бұрын
​@xo_coco_xo471 what are you talking about? The story was just posted.... I don't see one comment saying he died. He was just released on June 30th. There's not one article that says he died
@incognitohoneybee
@incognitohoneybee 13 күн бұрын
The fact that he survived in prison for those 20 yrs is a miracle in itself.
@utubes720
@utubes720 19 күн бұрын
Mercy? How about wrongful imprisonment for stealing this man’s life!
@chrisgullett4332
@chrisgullett4332 18 күн бұрын
You seem naive an misinformed. This media outlet has an agenda, and are lying and omitting facts. He was involved, and the reaon he was convicted is because the others involved all told the same story about him being involved. He knew what they were about to do, and willingly gave them his car.
@einsteinalb75
@einsteinalb75 19 күн бұрын
That's a ridiculous law
@xoxxobob61
@xoxxobob61 19 күн бұрын
It's Insane! Signed : A Floridian !!!
@louisestaats234
@louisestaats234 16 күн бұрын
Rule #1. Don't loan your car.
@aprilshorty4094
@aprilshorty4094 15 күн бұрын
I've been watching crime shows for yrs and I've never heard anything like this in my life 😱🤯
@mrxman581
@mrxman581 15 күн бұрын
​@@louisestaats234No, rule number one, get better friends.
@louisestaats234
@louisestaats234 15 күн бұрын
@mrxman581 I was taking a walk and noticed my car going by. My son had let his dope friend drive my car. Rule #1. Don't loan your car.
@ianbattles7290
@ianbattles7290 13 күн бұрын
By this prosecutor's logic, if I drive drunk and kill someone, the clerk at the liquor store is the one at fault. No sale = no crime, right?
@1NatureLady
@1NatureLady 12 күн бұрын
If the clerk thinks you are drunk and they serve you.....yes.
@intothevoid1926
@intothevoid1926 12 күн бұрын
​@1NatureLady does the clerk have a breathalyzer? Is the clerk versed in intoxication tests? Flawed logic like yours is why this guy got railroaded.
@cryptidsntunes
@cryptidsntunes 12 күн бұрын
​@1NatureLady the clerk knows a bottle of whiskey can get anyone drunk. So selling one makes you guilty of any crime any drunk guy commits?
@cpfishfan14
@cpfishfan14 12 күн бұрын
there's actually a law to proctect liquor stores. So long as they dont know you are habitual drunk they are not liable.
@ekbanks
@ekbanks 8 күн бұрын
Bingo, great critical thinking observation
@robertlawrence9000
@robertlawrence9000 15 күн бұрын
WTF!!! That's INSANE!!! There are actual people doing crimes that deserve locked up!!! Not this guy!!!
@lisalittle4826
@lisalittle4826 19 күн бұрын
Absolutely ridiculous that he was even charged.
@hobbes7460
@hobbes7460 19 күн бұрын
Even more ridiculous a jury found him guilty.
@TheAntistatist892
@TheAntistatist892 15 күн бұрын
​@@hobbes7460juries are full of copsuckers.
@fish9905
@fish9905 14 күн бұрын
Why? He knew they were gonna commit the crime
@fish9905
@fish9905 14 күн бұрын
He knew what they were gonna do, he should have called the police and report his car stolen and tell police what they were gonna do, he's guilty
@ianbattles7290
@ianbattles7290 13 күн бұрын
I'm struggling to understand how he is guilty of murder *if he was not there and didn't even know the killing happened.* Why am I responsible for the actions of other people??? Did I commit a crime by giving you a hammer *if I didn't know you intended to hit somebody with it???*
@monkhasheart
@monkhasheart 19 күн бұрын
What is the benefit to the state and society for misapplying a law in this way?
@badlyniceness2315
@badlyniceness2315 19 күн бұрын
The DA gets kudos…
@carolinematusevich889
@carolinematusevich889 19 күн бұрын
The benefit? Private prisons rake in profits. The wealthy, including the wealthy politicians don't give a damn about the innocent. We are all dollar signs to them.
@fuccingdye
@fuccingdye 19 күн бұрын
It’s career fluffing.
@susancoolidge7810
@susancoolidge7810 19 күн бұрын
There isn't one person in Florida who hasn't been in jail here and everybody outside of Florida will tell you don't go to Florida because they will put you in jail guess what I'm a retired 68 year old who called the police for help because my son-in-law put his hands on me I have never been arrested in my life and I have an impeccable background check along with an impeccable driving the officer will the sheriff actually who was only on the job for 6 months decided that I was the aggressor I was shocked and I spent one whole night in jail even had to carry my bed to a cell had to bend over so they could look how humiliating it is to even just be in a place like that I feel sorry for anyone and everyone who has to go to jail and I will never sit by and not bail anybody out I will be the first one there to help..
@susancoolidge7810
@susancoolidge7810 19 күн бұрын
Charges were never brought against me and my bail was less than $50 ... even the girls in there when they saw my paper work couldn't understand why my bail was so low for an assault and battery domestic...so why the sheriff did that is beyond me but I can tell you at 68 it did do something to me and I will never forget that horrible night..😢
@raterus
@raterus 17 күн бұрын
He talked to the police after the murders and his own statements incriminated himself. NEVER TALK TO COPS without a lawyer present.
@13699111
@13699111 15 күн бұрын
Number one rule but everyone thinks that there word means something to police, wrong
@bosspimp216
@bosspimp216 14 күн бұрын
@@13699111facts they still would have knocked his head offfffff it’s they Laws that’s fucked up
@chrisjager4539
@chrisjager4539 12 күн бұрын
EXACTLY THIS! Never talk to police. They only want to lock you up.
@shirleywong9428
@shirleywong9428 12 күн бұрын
But if u tell police truth why would u need lawyer
@bluerain3282
@bluerain3282 12 күн бұрын
@@shirleywong9428thousands are in prison for something they didn’t do.
@hobowithawaterpistol9070
@hobowithawaterpistol9070 18 күн бұрын
That law is completely flawed! What a shame this guys life was wasted! I loaned my truck to a douche bag roommate years ago and he left it behind a bar for 3 days! He told me it was stolen, but because he was as mature as a 6 year old boy, he lied because he was mad at me! If he had murdered someone, I could be in jail right now! What a stupid law!
@user-ef9zt9py5h
@user-ef9zt9py5h 20 күн бұрын
That’s insane! I’m so glad he got out! Have a safe life!
@SalSanchez-dy6cn
@SalSanchez-dy6cn 19 күн бұрын
He's not going to know how to do that bc jails don't rehabilitate you
@AB-dl1hz
@AB-dl1hz 19 күн бұрын
What does she need to be rehabilitated for??????​@@SalSanchez-dy6cn
@realtalk1310
@realtalk1310 19 күн бұрын
He's going to struggle finding a job.
@timdowney6721
@timdowney6721 19 күн бұрын
@@SalSanchez-dy6cn Generally not in the US….another reason this country has high recidivism.
@batcactus6046
@batcactus6046 19 күн бұрын
So many actual criminals released and walking free to offend again.
@OkayWithPotatoChips
@OkayWithPotatoChips 13 күн бұрын
Yeah but this guy's white and modern-day "logic" dictates that he deserved it. If black, then he wouldn't have and would've been released the next day. You know, common sense type stuff. 🤣
@D1722eieio
@D1722eieio 14 күн бұрын
So what if someone stole you car and did the same thing? This is the dumbest law I’ve ever heard of.
@ThatWeirdPlaceInYT
@ThatWeirdPlaceInYT 13 күн бұрын
I could not sit on a jury for charges like this and voted to convict, its ridiculous.
@JasRaymond1
@JasRaymond1 19 күн бұрын
This law is insane.
@anovino1992
@anovino1992 19 күн бұрын
No, it's not, he knew, he was compelled to call the police.
@JasRaymond1
@JasRaymond1 19 күн бұрын
@@anovino1992 Life in prison for Not Calling the Police is also insane.
@AlbertHess-xy7ky
@AlbertHess-xy7ky 19 күн бұрын
@@anovino1992 No one is ever required to call the police.
@SeizeHerSalad
@SeizeHerSalad 13 күн бұрын
​@anovino1992 he stated that if they were serious, as he assumed they were joking, he would have notified the police.
@sandrapisani9225
@sandrapisani9225 12 күн бұрын
@@anovino1992 He did not know his 'friends' were going to murder someone.
@robertf976
@robertf976 19 күн бұрын
What the flying F? So never lend anything to a friend. This country is freaking evil
@supergenerationgamers
@supergenerationgamers 19 күн бұрын
Humans are evil
@trapscience5828
@trapscience5828 19 күн бұрын
Amen 😢
@CoolChannelName
@CoolChannelName 19 күн бұрын
anything? He lent a car that he was not authorized to lend. Was his friend listed as a driver with the insurance company?
@thefourhorsemen91
@thefourhorsemen91 19 күн бұрын
Then leave.
@iamyou8416
@iamyou8416 19 күн бұрын
Insane!
@yaiburanakul8505
@yaiburanakul8505 14 күн бұрын
That rule seems wrong. That is one reason not to move to Florida.
@BobHakel
@BobHakel 15 күн бұрын
So a bus driver should be charged. If someone were to get on a bus to a mass shooting. This be crazy
@patriciadaw1210
@patriciadaw1210 19 күн бұрын
This is what Justice and mercy look like. He should have never been charged with murder.
@wownewstome6123
@wownewstome6123 14 күн бұрын
No, justice would be the state awarding him over 5 million for stealing his life and causing pain and suffering, and changing the law. Of course, doing the same for others who are also innocent.
@wownewstome6123
@wownewstome6123 14 күн бұрын
They need to also remove the conviction from his record.
@user-dw1ls3rp1l
@user-dw1ls3rp1l 19 күн бұрын
I'm all for the felony murder rule, but if you can't prove he was a participant or conspirator, why would you even charge him? He probably loaned his car out half asleep.
@supergenerationgamers
@supergenerationgamers 19 күн бұрын
He needed a real lawyer because they reduced his sentence to 25 years but he is still classified as guilty for something he didn't do. He didn't get exonerated for the charges only to prevent him from suing the state of Florida 🤦‍♂️
@melissaford717
@melissaford717 19 күн бұрын
​@supergenerationgamers in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, a law was passed that people who are innocent and incarcerated can't sue the state when released. In order to be financially compensated, they need to sue the city where they were arrested. Every state has different rules and hopefully this gentleman will get compensation. You take care 🙂
@user-fk3qe6zt5k
@user-fk3qe6zt5k 19 күн бұрын
probably because he was informed what they were up to when he called. And he didn't report it when he had a chance. That makes him an accomplice
@ThomasJones-sz3sx
@ThomasJones-sz3sx 19 күн бұрын
@@supergenerationgamers He'll hopefully sue these criminals anyway!
@ThomasJones-sz3sx
@ThomasJones-sz3sx 19 күн бұрын
@@melissaford717 This kid has a Super Positive Attitude. He's incredibly Grateful!!!! He'll be very successful!!
@johnjamce1146
@johnjamce1146 15 күн бұрын
what kind of law is that paying for a crime you didn't do 👎
@Wheemer
@Wheemer 15 күн бұрын
What you call a justice system is a bloody joke.
@alricthered226
@alricthered226 17 күн бұрын
I thought this was going to be one of those stories in which an innocent person was discovered as not guilty, and a miscarriage of justice was corrected. Instead, he was forced to serve out this ridiculous sentence, as if no mistake was made.
@JPVolvo
@JPVolvo 18 күн бұрын
DAs like this should be put in jail
@bekkiebeans6004
@bekkiebeans6004 14 күн бұрын
That is the stupidest conclusion, "no car, no crime." They could have gone and stolen a car, or they could have called a cab. No, the real criminals would have found a way to commit the crime. This was really unfair on this man...
@user-tf7dx7qh9t
@user-tf7dx7qh9t 16 күн бұрын
Hopefully, he filed a lawsuit against Florida's state for putting him in prison wrongfully.
@esparka
@esparka 15 күн бұрын
The man wasn’t wrongfully imprisoned….
@user-tf7dx7qh9t
@user-tf7dx7qh9t 15 күн бұрын
@@esparka So I disagree if I loan my truck and my buddy kills someone with a gun robbing. I shouldn't be held accountable. I wasn't even f****** there. And even if they called me and told me they're doing this. I wouldn't believe them. And I shouldn't be held accountable. Because I wasn't there. The only responsibility I have is in case of an accident. I have insurance for the other person. That's the only responsibility.
@esparka
@esparka 15 күн бұрын
@@user-tf7dx7qh9t I can certainly believe that you’re not happy with the law the way it is written. Nevertheless, this gentleman had found himself on the other side of that law and he paid the price. To repeat, the man wasn’t wrongfully imprisoned at all. He was imprisoned on the strength of the law as it was written. .
@justthecomments
@justthecomments 15 күн бұрын
@@esparka Oh but he was. Not every law is just!
@imdon8920
@imdon8920 14 күн бұрын
He was not wrongfully imprisoned per that law. Nevertheless, this law is unjust, and prone to abuse by corrupt DAs, as in this case. The law should be revised and tightened. Just lending your car should not get you charged for murder. Because no one will agree to lend their car if the friend tells you they are going to commit a crime. This is too much government in our lives.
@ronhall3686
@ronhall3686 19 күн бұрын
The expense taxpayers must carry for this stupid law.
@carolinematusevich889
@carolinematusevich889 19 күн бұрын
All for profits.
@CHRISTIANNWO
@CHRISTIANNWO 19 күн бұрын
Innocent people are going to prison, and you're thinking about taxes.
@ronhall3686
@ronhall3686 19 күн бұрын
@@CHRISTIANNWO Massive amounts of tax dollars are used for mostly private Florida prisons. Money that could be used for programs that benefit people in need. Keeping innocent people in prison cost taxpayers money.
@kennielsen3896
@kennielsen3896 19 күн бұрын
Not a stupid law at all. This case, the logic to apply it was misguided.
@sarahnoda
@sarahnoda 19 күн бұрын
Florida typically charges inmates ($10-50/day) for being incarcerated. They leave jail with a bill, sometimes that bill is actually for the full sentence length even if the individual only served a partial sentence length.
@ellerichardson1094
@ellerichardson1094 20 күн бұрын
That is insane 😲 definitely makes me not wanna move to Florida 🤦🏻‍♀️
@CoolChannelName
@CoolChannelName 19 күн бұрын
can I borrow your car?
@nopenope9118
@nopenope9118 19 күн бұрын
Why would you ever WANT to move to Florida? This is just another reason on the long list of reasons to never set foot in that state.
@utubes720
@utubes720 19 күн бұрын
@@nopenope9118They were being sarcastic
@blazeroranger
@blazeroranger 19 күн бұрын
@@nopenope9118You rather lawless state/city, right? Cashless bail out so you can harm more people.
@CN45475
@CN45475 19 күн бұрын
He loaned his car for a robbery that he knew was going to happen and someone died. Every state has a felony murder rule.
@drewkoenen8334
@drewkoenen8334 16 күн бұрын
Cool so rental car companies that rent a car to someone that murders a person is also guilty?
@ja1505
@ja1505 14 күн бұрын
The prison system in Florida needs to be reformed. After people serve a sentence, they have a record of every charge assigned a point & these points remain even after 20 years on a persons record. If the person get arrested again and charged, they will be sentenced according to the total number of points rather than the individual conviction the person faces.This point system is unfair and makes it impossible for a person to restore their life.
@sololuisvlogs
@sololuisvlogs 19 күн бұрын
That’s a stupid law! So glad I don’t live in Florida.
@tgees8180
@tgees8180 19 күн бұрын
What rotten law passed
@xoxxobob61
@xoxxobob61 19 күн бұрын
I'm a Floridian and never heard of this Case or this Law unless it was something like "aiding & abetting" to commit a crime?
@johnsmith-wd5sq
@johnsmith-wd5sq 14 күн бұрын
OMG! How horrible! Who the Hell made this law? He was home in bed!
@user-wn8so7kc8e
@user-wn8so7kc8e 17 күн бұрын
These politicians still got 21 years from him...what a shame
@keithjackson4985
@keithjackson4985 19 күн бұрын
If I were on that jury, I would not have voted guilty! That's ridiculous that he had to do 21 years!
@robertjenkins6132
@robertjenkins6132 19 күн бұрын
Maybe. But a jury only sees what the judge allows them to see, and they are not supposed to consult outside sources of information. So they have limited information, and they are asked to follow the judges precise instructions when delivering a verdict. So maybe they do not have as much information and freedom as you imagine.
@keithjackson4985
@keithjackson4985 19 күн бұрын
@robertjenkins6132 That, I understand. Many jurors fail at critical thinking. Any defense attorney, even one terrible at defending their clients. Would have to let it be known that this man was not at the scene of the crime. Or they would have to ask, what part did you play in the murder of this young woman? I can't see these points being missed in statements by a defense attorney.
@hottuna7
@hottuna7 19 күн бұрын
@@robertjenkins6132 There's a thing called *jury nullification*. The average person is so ill-informed they don't know that jury has the legal right to find someone not guilty even if all the evidence suggests otherwise.
@MightMouse2174
@MightMouse2174 18 күн бұрын
If I remember correctly on Florida you have to do at least 80 - 85% of your sentence before you even think of a parole hearing
@keithjackson4985
@keithjackson4985 18 күн бұрын
@MightMouse2174 I agree with that, for some offenders and if you're actually guilty of a crime. This man murdered no one. Seems his defense attorney could have argued this point strongly enough that he would have been found not guilty?
@W44F
@W44F 19 күн бұрын
cheap labor is why the law was enacted pay inmates .25 an hour
@azoldguy9025
@azoldguy9025 19 күн бұрын
That’s so far from the truth! The unfortunate part is, our system is broken, flawed in that one must prove their innocence beyond a reasonable doubt to avoid prosecution. Shameful in this day and age! The only way this gets fixed is by state legislation and a ground roots effort to change these laws! No innocent person should ever spend a minute behind bars!
@robertjenkins6132
@robertjenkins6132 19 күн бұрын
Meanwhile in the late 2000s or early 2010s the unemployment rate was something like 10%.
@DuoMaxwell007
@DuoMaxwell007 13 күн бұрын
"No car no crime"? Wtf? So if someone stole my car and takes it to go kill someone. I go to prison? How tf does that make sense?
@TheRealScooterGuy
@TheRealScooterGuy 12 күн бұрын
It took the voluntary act of lending it to give the cops and prosecutor the leverage needed to charge him.
@juzeus9
@juzeus9 12 күн бұрын
it's the city's fault for building roads for the car to drive on. no road, no crime.
@DuoMaxwell007
@DuoMaxwell007 12 күн бұрын
@@TheRealScooterGuy ok but still he didnt know what they were doing it would be different if they said "Hey can I borrow your car to go rob and kill someone?" then he said "yeah sure go ahead" in THAT case THEN he would be liable. But that wasnt the case, he found out what they did AFTER the fact
@donniebrasco4114
@donniebrasco4114 19 күн бұрын
So if someone comes over my house to eat and they stab and kill another person with a steak knife on my dinner table I can go to jail for life? Is this the bizarro world?
@labelledujour5855
@labelledujour5855 18 күн бұрын
Ain’t that crazy.
@anthonyplayground1402
@anthonyplayground1402 13 күн бұрын
Only if they told you they were going to do it, and you did nothing.
@chrisking1457
@chrisking1457 13 күн бұрын
If they said they were going to stab someone and you hand them the murder weapon then you are just as culpable for the murder, so yes you'd be going to jail. This isn't a new concept by any means and it's common knowledge.
@chonkyb3134
@chonkyb3134 19 күн бұрын
This man should have never been charged
@CoolChannelName
@CoolChannelName 19 күн бұрын
bologna, he should have never lent his car and he should have been an honest and prudent person by calling the police to alert them that his friend is planned and armed robbery. The Synder girl should have never been beaten to death by this man's "friends".
@AlbertHess-xy7ky
@AlbertHess-xy7ky 19 күн бұрын
@@CoolChannelName Is it a violation of law to lend your car? Is it a violation of law to not call the cops on a friend? This man beat no one to death.
@CoolChannelName
@CoolChannelName 19 күн бұрын
@@AlbertHess-xy7ky It is a violation if you know the person you are lending your car to does not have a driver's license and or they are going to commit an illegal act. Only the people listed on the insurance policy are covered by the policy. Lending the vehicle to unauthorized drivers can be grounds for cancelling the policy. Knowingly concealing a crime is a moral question that may be determined by a person's sense of right and wrong and their principles on basic human decency. Bad things happen to bad men and that is a great reason to not associate with murdering drug addicts.
@AlbertHess-xy7ky
@AlbertHess-xy7ky 18 күн бұрын
@@CoolChannelName 'It is a violation if you know the person you are lending your car to does not have a driver's license.' It is a violation of law to lend your car to someone without confirming that they have a current license. Right to Drive./ If your neighbor tells you that they are going to commit a crime is it a violation of law for you to not report? Owners of cars are responsible for the insurance of their vehicles. Be they owned outright , with paper, leased or rented. If a car is registered the insurance company with a stamp on th eregistration is responsible for damages, up to limit of the policy, until the registration is cancelled or transferred. Immorality, in and of itself, is not a crime. Did this guy spend too long in jail for his Crime? Not enough time in church?
@CoolChannelName
@CoolChannelName 17 күн бұрын
@@AlbertHess-xy7ky Driving is a privilege and not a right. Yes, it would be a violation of law if you admitted to knowing. That is why most witnesses claim they didn't see or hear anything, or they cannot recall. The prosecutor would have to prove you knew. Most people incriminate themselves because they think they are smart, and they love talking about it. You are half right on the insurance responsibility being on the company, but the liability is ultimately on the customer who can be sued by the company after the fact for damages that exceeded policy coverage or policy terms and conditions. If you look you will find thousands of people being sued by their insurance company. One of the main reasons insurance companies perform credit checks is to see if the customer has any court judgements against them, specifically from other insurance companies. I can agree that immorality alone is not a crime. Immoral does break moral law and this is where the line between right and wrong is often blurred by immoral people. There is no place on earth where stealing, lying and murdering is legal or lawful. We can establish what immoral and what is moral. It was immoral to imprison this man for as long as they did. The sentence did not match the crime and his plight is an example of the dangers of literal application of law by only reading the letter or the law. No laws can be absolute.
@bullyboy131
@bullyboy131 19 күн бұрын
This should not even be on his record, and should be treated as a citizen that never was locked up.
@lindasue263
@lindasue263 18 күн бұрын
He's a murderer!! He should have never been released!!
@robertkorth2911
@robertkorth2911 17 күн бұрын
​@lindasue263 no he isn't genius!
@stevenmitchell1
@stevenmitchell1 16 күн бұрын
@@lindasue263 For handing his car keys over to someone while he's semiconscious, that later commits a crime? The murderers are those that actually did the crime.
@alicetheegreet
@alicetheegreet 14 күн бұрын
He should've never spent a minute in jail. This is ridiculous!
@user_angelmum
@user_angelmum 12 күн бұрын
This is why the death penalty needs to be abolished.. how many innocent people are in jail for life or murdered by the state?
@dimitriberozny3729
@dimitriberozny3729 19 күн бұрын
Hope he sues the judge,jury and the police!! And gets 10 figures!! F**k this stupid law!!
@Doc5thMech
@Doc5thMech 19 күн бұрын
The voters, and their chosen representatives, in the state put him in jail.
@clos3078
@clos3078 19 күн бұрын
He can’t he served his sentence. Sucks to be him.
@smitty5890
@smitty5890 19 күн бұрын
Between things like this and Florida's treatment for mental health, we should be ashamed. Thing have to change. This is a waste of lives, time and tax dollars. Glad he is out and now can move foward
@DexterRose
@DexterRose 19 күн бұрын
That's not all Florida has to be ashamed for.
@CoolChannelName
@CoolChannelName 19 күн бұрын
The girl is still dead. I hope he has a fun life.
@kingdom3446
@kingdom3446 14 күн бұрын
This is ridiculous 😤 the justice system failed us again
@Anonymous-vr9hp
@Anonymous-vr9hp 12 күн бұрын
If his friend had borrowed his car, ran a red light, been pulled over for it, would the cop issue the friend driving and him at home both a ticket. Florida has some of the scariest laws in the country.
@sooz9433
@sooz9433 19 күн бұрын
I hope many Blessings come your way now. ❤
@user-uh6kk2tl8s
@user-uh6kk2tl8s 19 күн бұрын
The conviction seems like it was more based on what he might’ve known versus the fact they borrowed his car.
@formerlyfromthefuton8171
@formerlyfromthefuton8171 19 күн бұрын
Nice to see a sensible comment in the midst of a sea of ignorance. The guy said himself that his friends told him about the crime they were about to commit, and he did nothing. And considering that they had been partying together, it's a safe bet he knew what kind of people he was hanging around with (one of them was even his roommate). The media lies to us every day, yet people swallow stories like this hook, line, and sinker. For those listening closely, the takeaway of this story was that there are some bleeding hearts who want to spring the bad guys from prison.
@dethengine
@dethengine 18 күн бұрын
So you think life in prison is fair for something he "might've known"? For something he probably thought was a joke or something dumb his dumb friend said?
@jenniferwhalen6292
@jenniferwhalen6292 18 күн бұрын
I don't know why you're asking me questions, but...... He did way more than that. Do your research then you can ask me a question.
@dethengine
@dethengine 17 күн бұрын
@@jenniferwhalen6292 The question I asked doesn't have anything to do with "research". I just asked if you thought it was fair that someone that wasn't there gets life in prison. And if you do, then you're part of the problem with our society.
@ncunnin656
@ncunnin656 16 күн бұрын
One more reason to stay away from Florida
@browserstar9863
@browserstar9863 18 күн бұрын
wtf that Law is Insane !!! 😮🤬
@mikechrisscorpio.2659
@mikechrisscorpio.2659 19 күн бұрын
He Shouldn't Have Been Sent To Prison In The First Place!
@NerakSirrah1
@NerakSirrah1 19 күн бұрын
I'm so glad he's young enough to still live his life to the fullest. He seems like such a wonderful young man. Talk about a travesty of justice.
@formerlyfromthefuton8171
@formerlyfromthefuton8171 19 күн бұрын
Remember that this story is coming from the same media that says Ahmaud Arbery was a jogger, Bruce Jenner is a woman, and Russia's invasion was unprovoked. The Western State Media lies constantly.
@rickwhite3181
@rickwhite3181 15 күн бұрын
The prosecutor should be spending time in prison for imprisoning this man
@sharayparker176
@sharayparker176 18 күн бұрын
Hate the fucking system it's so broken
@skygh
@skygh 19 күн бұрын
I'd suggest staying out of Florida for starters
@mmutahharmohiuddin7157
@mmutahharmohiuddin7157 14 күн бұрын
*the suspects would have stolen car, or leased from Hertz or enterprise or used bicycle 🚲 or taxi. How SICK 🤕 and DEMENTED is US Justice System*
@juzeus9
@juzeus9 12 күн бұрын
as sick and demented as circumcision and abortion
@damienmilas8337
@damienmilas8337 12 күн бұрын
This is the most ridiculous law this guy lost 20+ years for giving his car keys to someone
@vmw4444
@vmw4444 12 күн бұрын
Some of these laws are so flawed and with a stroke of a pen they can be changed. That law of not being at the scene of a crime and have nothing to do with the crime, however, charged with the crime is just dumb.
@fredsmith4438
@fredsmith4438 20 күн бұрын
I want to know if now that he's out if he's on the hook for paying for all those years in prison. Especially since this was so undeserved I think he should not have to pay the likely huge sum of his stay in prison.
@ketapillar
@ketapillar 19 күн бұрын
$25 a day for as long as he is above ground. That sentence was for life he still owes the money even if he was released early.
@loganwilcox4037
@loganwilcox4037 12 күн бұрын
By the state's logic, shouldn't his mother have been sent to prison as well? If Ryan and never been born, then he would have never lent his car to his roommate. Actually, it makes sense to find the workers who paved the roads the roommate drove down on his way to commit the crime.
@ireneroy8820
@ireneroy8820 12 күн бұрын
My grandson was convicted by a non unanimous jury with NO physical EVIDENCE at All, in fact the detective in charge had the crime scene cleaned up before it could be investigated. Sound like a set-up or cover up??!!😡
@ianbattles7290
@ianbattles7290 13 күн бұрын
"No car, no crime"??? So if they had taken a taxi/Uber/bus, the taxi/Uber/bus driver would be charged with murder??? What if they had walked there or rode a bike??? Would he have been convicted of murder for lending sneakers or a bicycle to the actual killers???
@tomking7080
@tomking7080 12 күн бұрын
That’s a bullshit charge. He should of never went to prison
@azsegrxdhtfgvijnkomlewrhtg9508
@azsegrxdhtfgvijnkomlewrhtg9508 19 күн бұрын
It kind of sounds like he got charged because he failed to report a crime he was told was going to happen. Maybe that's part of it.
@dethengine
@dethengine 18 күн бұрын
And that means he should spend 25 years in prison?
@andreabradley5837
@andreabradley5837 16 күн бұрын
He didn't take it seriously. He thought the room mate was joking because who does something like that?
@culcune
@culcune 16 күн бұрын
@azseg There is probably even more to the story than that--like he failed to cooperate after the crime came to light. Seems a bit draconian 'just for loaning out a car' but the report started hinting there was more.
@jamesgretsch4894
@jamesgretsch4894 15 күн бұрын
Agreed.
@chrisking1457
@chrisking1457 13 күн бұрын
But in reality he was charged because someone told him they were going commit a home invasion and he told them to take his car and they ended up murdering someone. They are all culpable in that situation since they were all involved.
@johnnyfreedom3437
@johnnyfreedom3437 16 күн бұрын
I wasn't locked up anywhere near as long as this gentleman but when I got out, I could smell every flower, every blade of grass! And I loved the feel of rain on my face! That's freedom! I'm so happy for you buddy!
@primitivebulliestony9090
@primitivebulliestony9090 15 күн бұрын
A mother's worst nightmare finally ended. He shouldn't have gotten 21 yrs...especially if he wasn't there.
@bryaningram3877
@bryaningram3877 19 күн бұрын
Never let someone use your car
@lxlx3458
@lxlx3458 19 күн бұрын
In Florida...
@paanne1013
@paanne1013 19 күн бұрын
I agree! I worked with a man who let a friend "borrow" his gun. He didn't think anything of it (never let anyone borrow your gun, ever) and the guy murdered someone. The guy I worked with was on Death Row for 5 years before the man came forward and confessed to the murder. Some things should just never beused by anyone but you and a spouse or child (and never your gun).
@NammyTardust
@NammyTardust 19 күн бұрын
Or anything... a chef's knife, car/garden tools, a bike, etc.
@AlbertHess-xy7ky
@AlbertHess-xy7ky 19 күн бұрын
@@paanne1013 People who lend people guns....
@clintdaniel9260
@clintdaniel9260 16 күн бұрын
@@lxlx3458 anywhere similar thing happened to me in ohio guilty because car is urs cost me everything i had
@mikegoldstein7112
@mikegoldstein7112 19 күн бұрын
Sorry another reason to never move to Florida
@reytech1786
@reytech1786 19 күн бұрын
I agree. Don’t come here.
@formerlyfromthefuton8171
@formerlyfromthefuton8171 19 күн бұрын
Because they're tough on crime? That's a positive in my book.
@iveyhealth2266
@iveyhealth2266 18 күн бұрын
​@@formerlyfromthefuton8171 Don't lend anyone your car.😮
@billysmether6237
@billysmether6237 11 күн бұрын
What a joke!!!!!!!!! Florida is pathetic.
@georgemichael9106
@georgemichael9106 19 күн бұрын
This man should have never been sent to prison I’ll never set foot in Florida.
@Equestrianballer
@Equestrianballer 19 күн бұрын
Stay home yankee
@formerlyfromthefuton8171
@formerlyfromthefuton8171 19 күн бұрын
I might. I'm encouraged every time I hear a story about a state that actually prosecutes criminals.
@sunnybunnyfeeling7062
@sunnybunnyfeeling7062 14 күн бұрын
Smart man
@sunnybunnyfeeling7062
@sunnybunnyfeeling7062 14 күн бұрын
​@@Equestrianballer you have probably never left Brooksville.
@ireneroy8820
@ireneroy8820 12 күн бұрын
This is a damn shame!! 😡
@BenjimanBenjiman-df3fs
@BenjimanBenjiman-df3fs 12 күн бұрын
He has a loyal mother..bless him and his mother.. Saying hello from Chicago Illinois ❤❤
@ricardohermosillo6375
@ricardohermosillo6375 14 күн бұрын
Wow how embarrassing and shameful for our justice system...
@monicabrennan7111
@monicabrennan7111 19 күн бұрын
There is something totally wrong with the state of Florida...
@DexterRose
@DexterRose 19 күн бұрын
I wouldn't live in Florida if they gave me a mansion
@timothyhill9146
@timothyhill9146 19 күн бұрын
Move too NY or Cali. Then!
@jusletursoulglobaby
@jusletursoulglobaby 19 күн бұрын
thinking FL would give you anything suggests you dont belong anyway. win win
@Equestrianballer
@Equestrianballer 19 күн бұрын
Stay home yankee it’s horrible here
@Alien_Nukes
@Alien_Nukes 19 күн бұрын
Literally all 3 states are the same ​@@timothyhill9146
@Flawampuscat
@Flawampuscat 15 күн бұрын
On behalf of Florida thanks, we don’t want or need you here.
@halalpolice7544
@halalpolice7544 10 күн бұрын
This is sad man. They wasted his life for that nonsense law
@kevinhardesty2786
@kevinhardesty2786 12 күн бұрын
So by that logic, every person who has eaten McDonald's can sue them for the cost of their diabetic supplies and any other cost incurred from their morbid obesity.... Ridiculous laws should be repealed
@user-cu9zp3st4y
@user-cu9zp3st4y 12 күн бұрын
Florida the island nation that we need to send back into the sea to save us all time and money.
@yogoombah2356
@yogoombah2356 16 күн бұрын
One lesson to live by is... don't have low-life friends.
@spnd2mch
@spnd2mch 14 күн бұрын
What?! Our judicial system is all messed up. He shouldn't have ever been imprisoned.
@chaplainwin154
@chaplainwin154 15 күн бұрын
He knew about the crime, but he didn't deserve 21 years, maybe 5 years probation , but 21 was insane
@kimberlygolden8182
@kimberlygolden8182 14 күн бұрын
Wow what a rediculous interpretation.
@matlew1960
@matlew1960 18 күн бұрын
This is so wrong, not his release but his sentence. This has nothing to do with justice, but everything to do with retribution.
@riettarichardson9485
@riettarichardson9485 11 күн бұрын
That is a sick twisted unfair law!!!
@robinsuggs2169
@robinsuggs2169 5 күн бұрын
Who would live in a state like that?
@user-uh2kx7tz4k
@user-uh2kx7tz4k 19 күн бұрын
That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard of if someone going to do something like that he's going to find a way a car or not
@Dexter68-eq6ei
@Dexter68-eq6ei 19 күн бұрын
Out or not ,his mind will always be at that penitentiary...Fact.🙄👍
@user-op9jx7fs1n
@user-op9jx7fs1n 14 күн бұрын
The fact that you can spend half your life behind bars before any type of justice's served is absolutely disgusting
@Screw12-vl4ci
@Screw12-vl4ci 11 күн бұрын
This is complete bs floridas system is dirty af
@cmj2072
@cmj2072 19 күн бұрын
When they said they were going to break in somewhere & steal a safe...he should have called the police.
@formerlyfromthefuton8171
@formerlyfromthefuton8171 19 күн бұрын
I have a feeling he's holding some information back. These were his friends and party buddies. One of them was his roommate. The idea that he was totally in the dark about their intentions is not credible.
@cmj2072
@cmj2072 18 күн бұрын
@@formerlyfromthefuton8171 yeah you could tell when they were interviewing him.
@formerlyfromthefuton8171
@formerlyfromthefuton8171 18 күн бұрын
@@cmj2072 I watched another video after I posted that comment. It was from four years ago and it's about 20 minutes long. Turns out that his friends told him what was going down IN PERSON before they even left the house in his car, and he gave them bandanas to wear. They even talked about "putting the girl to sleep" if she was home when they got there to do the robbery. But he says he didn't take it seriously. And - he personally knew the girl who was brutally beaten to death. Also, the prosecutor offered this guy a plea deal for ten years, which he refused. So yeah, the media is just doing their normal thing here, trying to get everyone outraged over the "unjust" verdict and change the law.
@cmj2072
@cmj2072 18 күн бұрын
@@formerlyfromthefuton8171 that's freaking awful
@formerlyfromthefuton8171
@formerlyfromthefuton8171 18 күн бұрын
@@cmj2072 That video is worth watching. It still seemed like they were on his side, but at least there were more facts presented.
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