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Atheist came to challenge br shamsi speakers corner part 1

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@LETSUNITEUPONHAQQ
@LETSUNITEUPONHAQQ 2 жыл бұрын
Part 2 check out please kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p8WoqLmGncqsgmg.html
@truthhurts1446
@truthhurts1446 2 жыл бұрын
My Algerian brother I love when you start the conversation with quotes from the Quran
@shuaybhanif5882
@shuaybhanif5882 2 жыл бұрын
The phone he smiles when he hears about the designer. When you go to the topic of the human being and the complexity its like how is there a comparison mann. Wow like it blows my mind how they deny Allah. They are ok with a phone designer but the one who holds the sky up they dont believe. Wow just wow
@insidehealer
@insidehealer 2 жыл бұрын
Ma sha ALLAH 🌹🌹🌹🌹
@chr900
@chr900 2 жыл бұрын
I drove by a friend i havent seen in years like 2 months before he died. He went to sleep and died from diabetic ketoacidosis. I never stopped to say hi and catch up with him that day. Is true you never know when you die
@umaishilyas8826
@umaishilyas8826 2 жыл бұрын
Randomness does not exist in reality. It's just a word that we use to describe an event that we do not know the exact result from a set of possible results until the result comes in. But you can't say there is no reason for that result to come in. For example If you flip a coin, you don't know which side will hit the ground until one side hits the ground. However the side that hit the ground is fully dependant on the exact way it was thrown, the speed, the air around it, its weight and shape, many calculations that will not result in otherwise. It's not just a random result. The same with rolling a dice or throwing up a deck of cards. Everything is finely tuned by the rules of nature. Allah said in the Quran (54;49) "We have created all things in due measure". There is no glitch in Allah's creation. Allah said in the Quran "You will not see any flaw in what the Lord of Mercy creates. Look again! Can you see any flaw? Look again! And again! Your sight will turn back to you, weak and defeated."
@logicalmuslim1590
@logicalmuslim1590 2 жыл бұрын
As a programmer I experienced this first hand. I created a game and I wanted to start to game on a randomly selected puzzle and deliver a series of randomly selected puzzles. But a computer cannot give you a random number. Even though the BASIC language has a rand() function you cannot get a random number only a series of unpredictable numbers. If you seed the random number function with the same number every time you will get the same series of result numbers, every time. Rand(10) always produces that same series of results. So you must strip off the seconds from the system clock when the program starts to seed the Rand() function: rand(secs) to get a seemingly random result every time you run the software. But it's not random merely unpredictable. There is a company in Georgia that creates machines for the lottery. They employ scientists to design machines that produce an unpredictable outcome. But not random. If you knew the initial velocity of every ball released, it's bounce factor and air resistance factor and the strength of the vacuum etc. you could calculate the outcome of the lottery. There is nothing random in our universe.
@Edward-bm7vw
@Edward-bm7vw 2 жыл бұрын
There is no god and in fact we have seen many flaws in this "creation" - our bodies are design nightmare as well as the bodies of other creatures. If a god designed all this then this god is a reckless fool.
@Edward-bm7vw
@Edward-bm7vw 2 жыл бұрын
@@logicalmuslim1590 There are indeed random or unpredictable components to the universe - there's a whole branch of science that studies this, Chaos Theory - and just because you can't identify it does not mean your god exists.
@umaishilyas8826
@umaishilyas8826 2 жыл бұрын
@@Edward-bm7vw How do you define flaws in the creation? What makes you feel sad? or uncomfortable? By 'flaws' we mean something that contradicts the 'law' of its nature. Things that makes you feel sad are called 'depressing' things. Good and Evil are like Light and Shadow. For a Shadow to exist there must be a Light. And for a Light to exist there must be something that is causing the Light. So the existence of evilness does not neglect the existence of a creator. Infect it proves the existence of a creator.
@logicalmuslim1590
@logicalmuslim1590 2 жыл бұрын
@@Edward-bm7vw unpredictable is not the same as random. Randomness does not exist. Now as for your assertion that God doesn't exist, well I need some proof.
@user-yz9bf3fh6f
@user-yz9bf3fh6f 2 жыл бұрын
The atheist made a point that I find partially irrelevant in 7:20 Saying that the world was made by a chance like a 1 in a million with an example of how one sperm out of millions lives and it develops into a human being. The problem is the process of fertilizing the egg is inevitable if you have enough sperm and it is inevitable that a baby will be born in normal circumstances. However, there wasn’t a probability to the universe to develop or no and this can’t be scientifically proven, it is just that Allah (God) created it from nothing, there was never a probability for it to exist or no. It’s an ordered slave to Allah.
@PoeticSonic
@PoeticSonic 2 жыл бұрын
actually what's funnier is that the first sperm isn't the one to fertilise the egg, nobody won any race lol. in fact the egg chooses a sperm among many many sperm that has reached it, many other sperm never reach the egg because their job is to act as a defence and so on
@nizamudino
@nizamudino 2 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to part 2
@LETSUNITEUPONHAQQ
@LETSUNITEUPONHAQQ 2 жыл бұрын
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@impartiallogic6984
@impartiallogic6984 2 жыл бұрын
Another reason I don't speak with Atheist! ☹️
@tajkhan8758
@tajkhan8758 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly I'm Muslim and I don't think the Shamsi or the other guy gave good answers or evidence or enough reason to convince him of a God or Allah swt. Just because an iPhone needed a creator has nothing to do with why life forms like flowers, bacteria, humans and animals need a creator. I've been searching for strong evidence myself hence why I clicked this video. But the strongest of arguments don't seem to be very strong at all so far. I hope someone has some real strong solid and credible answers because I love my faith. But that doesn't make it real. There's alot of questions that need proper discussion and thought.
@mrbobo3706
@mrbobo3706 2 жыл бұрын
can u compare an iphone with the universe ? irrational comparision. moreover i phones are made and assembled by many people. some questions seem quite silly" I havent worked it out" Nice one!!! A very intelligent Atheist I loved this discussion. Waiting for part 2
@eneszeqiri3364
@eneszeqiri3364 2 жыл бұрын
Why cant you compare the universe with the iphone? Both are complicated, in fact the universe by itself is much more complicated. So hypothetically if you never seen a phone before or any technology before, you would assume that the phone was created by itself by billions of years grains of sand coming by, or you would assume that someone or something somehow created it?
@nabilrehi2143
@nabilrehi2143 2 жыл бұрын
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@nabilrehi2143
@nabilrehi2143 2 жыл бұрын
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@nabilrehi2143 2 жыл бұрын
Why do so many people laugh at those who put their faith in God? - Quora 25 Oct 2019 · 172 answers Why do so many people laugh at those who put their faith in God?
@nabilrehi2143
@nabilrehi2143 2 жыл бұрын
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@nabilrehi2143
@nabilrehi2143 2 жыл бұрын
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@nabilrehi2143
@nabilrehi2143 2 жыл бұрын
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@razer0072073
@razer0072073 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't Shamsi say that Dinosaurs didn't exist?
@The_Angry_BeEconomist
@The_Angry_BeEconomist 2 жыл бұрын
where did he say this, provide reference
@redone2957
@redone2957 2 жыл бұрын
We don’t know. Allah never mentioned.
@R8V10
@R8V10 2 жыл бұрын
@@redone2957 That's ridiculous, just because Allah didn’t mention about something doesn’t mean it didn’t or doesn’t exist.
@dhanisandyanto475
@dhanisandyanto475 2 жыл бұрын
@@R8V10 lol he said he didn't know, he didn't say it doesn't exist
@redone2957
@redone2957 2 жыл бұрын
@@R8V10 we don’t know! We people don’t know so how can you say they existed?
@Asterix07
@Asterix07 2 жыл бұрын
This guy called shami is bonkers
@abdul-hadidadkhah1459
@abdul-hadidadkhah1459 2 жыл бұрын
Well he's reduced you to barking ad hominem
@Anne-jf1hi
@Anne-jf1hi 2 жыл бұрын
Shamsi needs to tone down and take a step back and humble himself to the universe with infinite possibilities. Stop pushing your beliefs on others and stop talking to them like you know everything which you do not. All you have are your own beliefs and nothing more. This is a very big earth with many people and many beliefs, religions and thoughts. There is no one answer because then the whole world would be on the same page. Our creator doesn’t want us to know who he is, accept that and live your good and wholesome life while you are here. Nobody on earth knows what will be next after this life and this is the truth whether you want to believe it or not.
@Edward-bm7vw
@Edward-bm7vw 2 жыл бұрын
1:20 This is just an appeal to personal incredulity fallacy. You have no proof that it cannot do this. Abiogenesis is indeed a plausible outcome due to a variety of experiments. So far we don't have 100% of the facts yet but so far there is NOTHING to suggest any of it is impossible. 2:04 Faulty comparison. iPhone's are man-made objects - humans, and other life are not man-made objects. We've seen iPhones being constructed in factories we have NEVER seen animals or life being designed or created by anyone or anything. So this is a bad comparison. This Shamsi is a sophist
@Soulkollextor
@Soulkollextor Жыл бұрын
Its an Analogy. You didn’t see the bridge you cross being built, you didnt see the aircraft being built to fly on etc regardless if its man made or not. Water is not man made yet you TRUST it and BELIEVE it enough to consume it. Us beautiful humans constructed the way we are in our complex biology, we still use our senses on a constant basis. You can’t question your eyes or say “you don’t believe it” the same way you trust the Sun to arise every morning to give you daylight. God created and designed us with perfect knowledge. Instilled in us natural inclination, sense of morality and eternal judgement.
@Edward-bm7vw
@Edward-bm7vw Жыл бұрын
@@Soulkollextor I'm fully aware of the analogy. It's just wrong. They're falsely comparing things which are not comparable. The origins of man made objects are NOT the same as the origins of non man made objects. No there's no proof any such god exists. This is a fallacious line of thinking.
@RodriguesPaul360
@RodriguesPaul360 2 жыл бұрын
Dude is making points and justifying argue with people who didn’t believe in himself or knows nothing about
@jesuschristsaves1955
@jesuschristsaves1955 2 жыл бұрын
THE GOSPEL Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: - 1 Corinthians 15: 1-4 KJV Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends. - John 15:13 KJV SAVALATION For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. - John 3:16 KJV For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. John 3:17 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. - John 14:6 KJV Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved. Acts 4:12 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life. Romans 5:10 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed. - Isaiah 53:5 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. Ephesians 2:8-9 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel. - Mark 1:15 KJV He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him. - John 3:36 KJV Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began. 2 Timothy 1:9 For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost. Luke 19:10 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. 2 Peter 3:9 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. Mark 16:16 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. 1 Corinthians 15:22 For scarcely for a righteous man will one die: yet peradventure for a good man some would even dare to die. But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. Romans 5:7-8 I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture. John 10:9
@azizahmadrasul
@azizahmadrasul 2 жыл бұрын
There is no begotten in John 3:16
@mohamedmouse3227
@mohamedmouse3227 2 жыл бұрын
U read bible part u like nd u ignore another part still u have achance to follow messesge of jesus pbuh
@aliseyed3298
@aliseyed3298 2 жыл бұрын
Watch on KZfaq," sheep respond to Quran Muslim Holy Book , by ali seyed"
@healthilysceptical
@healthilysceptical 2 жыл бұрын
This is called the god of the gaps argument, because you can't give an answer to the question, you place god in the gap. It's a fallacy.
@justacommonman6010
@justacommonman6010 2 жыл бұрын
This is called reasoning.
@adzzino
@adzzino 2 жыл бұрын
No it’s logical.
@healthilysceptical
@healthilysceptical 2 жыл бұрын
@@adzzino it's called flawed reasoning
@healthilysceptical
@healthilysceptical 2 жыл бұрын
@@justacommonman6010 flawed reasoning
@healthilysceptical
@healthilysceptical 2 жыл бұрын
What wrong with the answer " I don't know ".. faith is belief without proof..
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