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MCU State of Villainy as 2023 Closes Out

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A bit of Everything

A bit of Everything

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This video looks at the State of Villainy in MCU by classifying each villain as dead, alive, on probation, or reformed.
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00:00 - Intro
01:44 - Categories for the Villains
02:48 - Captain America: The First Avenger
03:15 - Captain Marvel
03:47 - Iron Man
03:54 - Incredible Hulk
04:17 - Iron Man 2
04:41 - Thor
05:02 - Avengers
05:28 - Iron Man 3
06:01 - Thor: The Dark World
06:11 - Captain America: The Winter Soldier
07:47 - Guardians of the Galaxy
08:22 - Avengers: Age of Ultron
08:42 - Ant-Man
09:05 - Captain America: Civil War
09:31 - Black Widow
10:21 - Doctor Strange
10:31 - Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 2
11:08 - Spider-Man: Homecoming
11:25 - Thor: Ragnarok
12:28 - Black Panther
12:59 - Avengers: Infinity War
13:28 - Ant-Man and the Wasp
13:56 - Avengers: Endgame
15:37 - Spider-Man: Far From Home
16:23 - WandaVision
16:57 - Falcon and the Winter Soldier
17:50 - Loki
18:30 - What If?
19:08 - Shang Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings
19:56 - Eternals
21:01 - Hawkeye
22:12 - Spider-Man: No Way Home
23:05 - Moon Knight
23:44 - Doctor Strange and the Multiverse of Madness
24:55 - Ms. Marvel
25:15 - Thor: Love and Thunder
25:29 - She-Hulk: Attorney at Law
26:33 - Werewolf by Night
26:42 - Wakanda Forever
27:07 - Quantumania
28:14 - Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 3
28:54 - Secret Invasion
29:45 - Loki Season 2
30:27 - The Marvels
31:58 - Dead: Secondary Villains
32:25 - Dead: Primary Villains
33:10 - Dead but reformed Villains
33:24 - Reformed Villains
33:48 - On Probation Villains
34:19 - Alive: Secondary Villains
34:49 - Alive: Primary Villains
35:42 - Conclusion

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@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
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@Celebok
@Celebok 8 ай бұрын
It's pretty ironic, though it makes complete sense, that for most of the reformed villains who subsequently died, their self-sacrifice was the thing that earned them reformed status.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
What a good point...yeah, the self-sacrifice of those reformed villains is one of the special things about the MCU that really tugs at your heart strings!
@aydam4
@aydam4 8 ай бұрын
Absolutely wild how many villains have been in the MCU so far, I never realised just how many secondary villains there were! Great to see them all together, surprised how many in general are still alive.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Ikr? I was blown away by how many villains there have been and also was surprised that so many of them are still alive!
@natsohigh5552
@natsohigh5552 8 ай бұрын
So there was really no point in building The Raft since they are all dead 😂
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
LOL! Indeed!
@eldeadkilljohnkennedy3946
@eldeadkilljohnkennedy3946 8 ай бұрын
I mean, who the hell killed all these people since they all dead It’s not like the punisher.
@thesausageman5388
@thesausageman5388 8 ай бұрын
I thought the Raft was built for Captain America’s allies in Civil War?
@Glitch-qj3nj
@Glitch-qj3nj 8 ай бұрын
@@thesausageman5388 if we dont see some villains its not mean they not exist
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
​@@thesausageman5388 That's an interesting point...I'm not sure if the Raft was for heroes, villains, or both. Great question!
@gerriehetschaap1854
@gerriehetschaap1854 8 ай бұрын
Baron Von Strucker appears alongside Dr List in the Winter Soldier post credits scene, so he should be placed there too. Adding to that, William Ginter Riva could be considered on probation in Iron Man seeing as that short appearance turned out to be his villain origin story. Aside from that I couldn't spot any big things, so this list is quite comprehensive!
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Oops...good call on Strucker in winter soldier PCS. As for William, I'm torn on whether he was a villain in IM 1 or not. But if you think I should add him, I could see that making sense. He certainly turned bad after that chewing out!
@gerriehetschaap1854
@gerriehetschaap1854 8 ай бұрын
@@AbitofEverything4U I think maybe for consistency adding him would make sense, seeing as how Val is also just existing on probation simply because while shifty she hasn't done anything flat out villainous yet. It would make sense if you included every single appearance of the characters in their mcu run, seeing as you have a good system to show if their evil, neutral or good at that point in time!
@CosmicComicbooks
@CosmicComicbooks 8 ай бұрын
@gerriehetschaap AbitofEverything hasn't included the villains of their no longer villains in certain cases, such as Wanda Maximoff in infinity war and endgame as well as yondu in the guardians of the galaxy holiday special.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
​@@gerriehetschaap1854 Even though I'm trying to only a character in the entries where they are villainous, I suspect a case could be made that William made the decision to turn villainous after that chewing out by Stane.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
​@@CosmicComicbooks Good point...yeah, I definitely only include the characters if they are villainous in a given movie or show.
@Ds2Wavy11
@Ds2Wavy11 8 ай бұрын
You’re dedicated brother. Keep grinding because I know for a fact you’ll grow. You give developed and intricate explanations in a simple but definitive format. Comic movie fans appreciate you. You make it make sense. Keep explaining, cause these movies are getting super complicated, no 🧢
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Thanks so much...very kind of you to say that...I'll keep churning away. Really appreciate you watching and sharing your positive feedback!
@imjamespopcorn
@imjamespopcorn 8 ай бұрын
10:08 I think Val knew what she was doing. Plus like, she’s saying “hey go kill this guy.” I think that’s pretty villainous.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, I do wonder if I need to move her to full villain status from the start. Good call!
@daltonmeadesmith
@daltonmeadesmith 8 ай бұрын
I'm extremely interested to see where we see Eleanor Bishop next. She's such a fascinating and complex character. Vera Farmiga has been one of my top favorite actors ever since I finished Bates Motel. I hope she plays a major role in Young Avengers or a possible Hawkeye season 2.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
I agree...would be very cool to see her return to make life difficult for the Young Avengers. She's an amazing actress. I like her in the Conjuring movies as well!
@daltonmeadesmith
@daltonmeadesmith 8 ай бұрын
​@AbitofEverything4U Verussa Bloodstone isn't a primary villain? She is THE star of Werewolf by Night.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Oh, I love Verussa. She was Ah-May-Zing! Still a villain...but I agree, she was the star of the show. Love that special presentation so much!
@RusianSpy
@RusianSpy 8 ай бұрын
So something interesting is that we also kind of know Kang is (probably) coming back, since despite all these variants of Kang, none of them are really named Kang. There's so far only one real Kang the Conqueror. Now, that could easily change and they can just say that Immortus, Rama-Tut, Scarlet Centurion, etc. all just have the nickname of Kang, but it is interesting that, potentially, the title of Avengers: Kang Dynasty already tells us Kang the Conqueror survived. And he evens says in Quantumania, "the dynasty of Kang".
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Good point! It's hard to say who the "real" Kang is. In fact, I'm not 100% that HWR is even the Kang from the 616 universe, although it seems he likely came from the main MCU. Great feedback on the vid. Really appreciate you watching and sharing your thoughts!
@Killixn_
@Killixn_ 8 ай бұрын
I love these videos so much. They remind me of every character and how we have so many loose ends 💀. Thank you for all your effort! It really shows with the great quality of your content! Seeing Venom's "Goo" on probation is the funniest thing I've ever seen 😭
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for the positive feedback on the vid...really appreciate it! And I agree...the Venom goo on probation made me chuckle as well. ig we just put a small little ankle monitor on it?
@Volvagia0slayer
@Volvagia0slayer 8 ай бұрын
Even though we've now seen another character survive flying into a sun, I tend to agree with you that Ikaris's trip was 1-way. That said, because of what the Eternals are, I do think we could see an Ikaris 2.0 in the future. Yeah, I pretty much agree with you on the Secondary Villains not being a big loss. The only exceptions are the Secondary Villains like Kaecilius, N'Jobu, etc. that were portrayed by great big name actors that it would have been nice to see more from in bigger roles.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Good point about Ikaris 2.0. I wonder if we will indeed see some of the fallen Eternals return in that fashion? And I'd love to see Kaecillus (whose name I totally butchered in the vid) return again. He's technically not dead...but is ofc facing a fate far worse than death. Yikes!
@wyatttulk4744
@wyatttulk4744 8 ай бұрын
I am fairly new to your content but I have enjoyed every single minute of it! I am currently rewatching all of the MCU/Multiversal movies in chronological order to understand dehiscence crazy world we all love, and all of your videos have been so much help bc it adds that little but of detail I may miss. Keep up the great work you are doing this community a real blessing by working so hard
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for the positive feedback on the vids. That's cool that you're re-watching the multiverse saga movies...I need to do the same, as I think things are becoming alot more clear as we proceed thru phase 5. Can't wait to see Deadpool 3 next year!
@_DrStrange_
@_DrStrange_ 8 ай бұрын
I love this type of content. Thank You so much for doing it.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
You are very welcome...had alot of fun making it!
@molom1741
@molom1741 8 ай бұрын
By the end of far from home, and the beginning of no way home, it's clear that some people, while not everyone belive in mysterio, and I think that a character know for his illusions makes a really solid candidate to be brought back in the future, especially with such an opportunity for a sinister six, but I 100% agree with your position on his state so far! BTW, it would be so fun If he took a position like JJJ in the future , spider man would have to give up just due to the huge amount of slander he would be facing daily LMAO
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, having Mysterio as part of the sinister six would be so epic. I would love so much to have him return. And yeah, Mysterio teaming with JJJ to produce the news would be a very bad day for Spidey!
@grecia_gs
@grecia_gs 8 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this video! Being a reformed villan in the MCU always ends wrong!😂 Well except for Loki but he is also suffering 😢 I love the video, hoping to see Dr. Doom and Galactus soon but I'm enjoying this "Kang Dinasty" so far 🎉 And I absolutely think that Val is a villian but she are looking his personal interest. I'll love to see more of her backstory in the future
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Great feedback on the vid! Really appreciate you watching and sharing your thoughts. Always fun to read your comments!
@TheDanishGuyReviews
@TheDanishGuyReviews 8 ай бұрын
7:30 And that's where I go "Better you than me." I'm not doing maths. ("When did you last buy a protractor?" ~ Peter Parker.)
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
LOL...niiiiice!
@Natta44
@Natta44 8 ай бұрын
Im suprised you included so many nothing villains from SheHulk. But didn't include X5 or Dox from Loki, they were actual villains. Dox got a horrendous death and X5 is still alive somewhere! Also id argue Classic loki wasn't a villain in context of the show, if that was the case why not add president, kid, alligator loki? 😅
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Oh, good point...I could add Dox. Ironically, she was willing to make the hard call that ended up helping everyone else buy extra time to live (otherwise everyone at the TVA might be dead already)...but I can see her being listed as a villain. X-5 is a good call as well. Classic Loki I only considered a villain since all Loki's are questionable in character...but really I wanted to give him credit for the epic death scene. Perhaps I could add some of the other Lokis as well (esp. kid, alligator, boastful and president). Great feedback!
@broadwaybyghostlight
@broadwaybyghostlight 8 ай бұрын
Love these videos. Did we technically see a body with Raza in the first Iron Man? He got his ears zapped by Stane and his men all got shot, but we didn't really see him die for sure. I think that'd be a really fun person to see pop up in a Ten Rings show or something.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Interesting question...my guess is Stane's men had him killed to avoid any loose ends, but you are correct that we never saw the body. If he showed up again, I'd be down for that! But in the meantime, my take is that it feels like the Stane would have ensured Raza didn't return. Great feedback on the vid. Thx so much for watching and sharing your thoughts!
@Sage-km5je
@Sage-km5je 8 ай бұрын
Slattery was on probation in the short film All Hail the King prior to him appearing again in Shang-Chi, becoming the second character from an Iron Man film to appear again for the first time in a long time after William Ginter Riva from 2008's Iron Man appeared in Spider-Man: Far From Home.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Excellent point! I should add William to Iron Man. It's been great to see these characters returning after being gone for so long!
@NSCCYT
@NSCCYT 8 ай бұрын
Finally, another state of villany! One my favourite type of your videos!
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@NSCCYT
@NSCCYT 8 ай бұрын
@@AbitofEverything4U Thank you for making these awesome videos
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
You are very welcome!
@Raphentei
@Raphentei 8 ай бұрын
Oh no! You just taught me that Garry Shandling (Senator Stern) passed away in 2016. I loved him so much in IM2 and WS
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Ikr? RIP to an incredible actor. He was amazing!
@Zenlore6499
@Zenlore6499 8 ай бұрын
I’m surprised at the ratio! Didn’t realize so many had died, but also that so many are alive!
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Ikr? I was surprised at the death count, but was equally surprised at how many were still alive!
@mr.moviemafia
@mr.moviemafia 8 ай бұрын
13:20 I’d argue we don’t actually know what happened to The Collector in Infinity War. Thanos was shown interrogating him for the Reality Stone, but that whole situation wasn’t real and The Collector vanished with the rest of Thanos’ illusion (“Reality can be whatever I want”). Knowhere was seriously hurt in that scene, but Collector is nowhere to be seen or heard from again in either Guardians 3 or the Holiday Special. You think he’d have an issue with the Guardians coming in and taking over his home pretty much, so he could easily be out of the picture.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Good question! So, in Infinity War the Collector's death was an illusion cast by Thanos via the reality stone. However, it was still assumed he might be dead at that point. But then in the Guardians HS, they said "Ever since buying Knowhere from The Collector, we don't have time for trivialities like Christmas." So now it's assumed that the Collector is alive. I'd love for him to return and team with the Grandmaster!
@xiongrey19
@xiongrey19 8 ай бұрын
I'd argue that Icarus never reformed. The only thing he didn't do was kill Cersei when he had the chance and he only had a moment of hesitation before the Uni-mind took control and forced him to contribute to Cersei's last actions. After that he flew into the sun due to his failure to save Tiamat. I don't think he ever reformed, just hesitated, lost, and unalived himself when he failed what he thought his purpose was.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
You know, I probably need to watch Eternals again. I thought Ikarus did help them willingly, but perhaps I'm wrong on that. Makkari signed "We became one…even Ikaris and Sprite all because of Tiamut." But maybe he was forced to do it. Okay, you have me curious...I'll check on that!
@maskerriz2616
@maskerriz2616 8 ай бұрын
Do you think its possible that in No Way Home there could have been another yet unmentioned mistake by Strange. Instead of sending Vulture to Morbius' universe, he could have just accidentally created a variant of Vulture in Morbius' universe? However, I also like the idea of Vulture actually being sent there and Miguel returning him.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Very creative idea...I'd be down with a variant being sent to Morbius' universe, if that's the direction Marvel decides to go. That works for me!
@sickman5236
@sickman5236 8 ай бұрын
Dude nice video again. Keep up the good work, you're fighting your way through the algorithm perfectly 💪
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for the positive feedback. Trying my best to make that algorithm happy!
@Jansenbaker
@Jansenbaker 8 ай бұрын
For me, Abomination is clearly reformed. He was only speaking at that conference because he thought he was invited to give an inspirational speech. The breaking out thing seemed downplayed by the end, but I guess I dont have much to counter it. He just seemed so chill once he was out, he seems pretty good, not wanting to destroy anymore. Alternately, I think Val is a villain just for how she treated good Ross (Martin Freeman) in Wakanda Forever. Besides, I think it's safe to say, she has no love for heroes, and is manipulating and collecting in preparation for something we've yet to see. What if Val is the one Shannon called? That may make sense, to have as many moles in the government as she can use.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, I'd be fine calling Abomination reformed. I mean, ig Wong broke the law by breaking him out of prison (several times, in fact) and I didn't put Wong on probation, so I'm down with Blonsky being reformed. And I agree, Val should move to full villain status after Wakanda Forever. Good call!
@WhiteRaven696
@WhiteRaven696 8 ай бұрын
I would love to see you do a state of heroes/villainy for all of the Marvel TV characters. Who knows when one of them could pop up?
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, that would indeed be very cool. It would be a massive undertaking, but I may consider doing it, as I get that request quite often, tbh.
@WhiteRaven696
@WhiteRaven696 8 ай бұрын
@@AbitofEverything4U if anybody can handle it, I’m sure it’s you.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Thanks! Yeah, it's definitely on my list!
@imjamespopcorn
@imjamespopcorn 8 ай бұрын
5:47 I don’t think my main man trevor is reformed by the end of iron man 3. The only reason he gives Tony and rhodey info is because they would shoot him otherwise. I do think he’s reformed in Shang chi, tho
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Good point...yeah, I could see him being on probation in IM 3, since he was only helpful because he had to be. Excellent observation!
@bronwyngavin6076
@bronwyngavin6076 8 ай бұрын
Man, your videos are really great. I’m glad to see you growing and hope you get to make this your primary focus, too! I’ve told all my MCU buddies to check you out!
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for your kind words and positive feedback on the vids. Really appreciate you sharing the channel with your MCU friends. That's so nice of you to do!
@FaisalAhmadNoori
@FaisalAhmadNoori 8 ай бұрын
Well gathered info man, as always!
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Many thanks! Really appreciate you watching and sharing your feedback!
@Raphentei
@Raphentei 8 ай бұрын
As time passes, I'm increasingly convinced JOOF is actually working at the TVA as an overseer
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
lol! I would love that job. Where do I sign up?
@Raphentei
@Raphentei 8 ай бұрын
grab a ticket and get in line, like Loki@@AbitofEverything4U 😆
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
LOL!
@lawznwdsc
@lawznwdsc 8 ай бұрын
Man many villains have died over the years, I kinda wish more of the phase 1-2 villains were more like their comic book selves or had more personality.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
I agree...so much carnage in the world of villainy. And yeah, some of the Phase 1-2 villains didn't get much of a chance to shine as Marvel hadn't really hit their stride yet. Can't wait to see which new villains pop-up in the years to come!
@lawznwdsc
@lawznwdsc 8 ай бұрын
@@AbitofEverything4U Hey I just thought of something funny i hope we see in the future. some Asgardian calling Rocket a rabbit but him correcting them saying he's a Raccoon.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
LOL!
@sageturmelle
@sageturmelle 8 ай бұрын
Really curious to see how things will play out for Val and Yelena now in Thunderbolts given that Yelena has presumably lost respect for her after being manipulated into falsely believing Clint was the cause of Natasha's death.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Good point! That should lead to some interesting conversations, for sure!
@Riley_C.
@Riley_C. 8 ай бұрын
Val should definitely count as a villain, she should know who Kingpin is, he is a known crime boss at this point and she still chose to do business with him
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Good point...okay, I'm sold. She needs to move to the full villain category!
@lightspeeds4484
@lightspeeds4484 8 ай бұрын
Hey I love your videos, only new to watching but have been keeping up on all your recent timeline stuff and got to say, good stuff! Keep up the great work.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Thanks so much! I really appreciate you watching and leaving your positive feedback on the vids. I really enjoy doing this and it's great to hear when fellow MCU fans enjoy it as well!
@OrangeJambo
@OrangeJambo 8 ай бұрын
Love you & this community. ✊🧡🍊
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for being a part of the community yourself. Great to have you here!
@iraford5788
@iraford5788 8 ай бұрын
Great villainy video.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for the positive feedback!
@eldeadkilljohnkennedy3946
@eldeadkilljohnkennedy3946 8 ай бұрын
I’ll probably mention, Todd and Josh met the end by the punisher, Frank Castle put a bullet into their head.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Niiiiice! Hats off to Mr. Castle...those two had it coming big time!
@travisrose9716
@travisrose9716 8 ай бұрын
I swear sometimes I love you more than my wife lmao . Theres is simply not a better constant stream of high level mcu content on the platform
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
LOL! That made me chuckle. Thanks so much for the positive feedback on the vids!
@TheRichandmighty
@TheRichandmighty 8 ай бұрын
Yelena helped take out Kingpin and iirc was a the entire reason that the Hawkeye duo had the knowledge to take the villains down. However she did flip flop a lot in the show that but I think redeemed but *just* barely.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Good points...yeah, Yelena was all over the place in that series...that said, I loved every minute of it. She's an amazing new addition to the MCU, no matter how we end up placing her. Will be interesting to see what she has to say to Val after the misinformation Val gave her!
@stefan3597
@stefan3597 8 ай бұрын
Great video as always! Excited to see more and to see the what if breakdowns when they come.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Thanks! Love putting this vid together each year. I keep expanding who's included in the list, as I get so much great feedback on it. And yeah, I'm looking forward to What If. Should be a fun series!
@exbyte7248
@exbyte7248 3 ай бұрын
what I learned from this video was that if a villans starts to reform we can consider them dead
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 3 ай бұрын
ikr? Reforming as a villain is pretty much a death sentence in the MCU!
@sphereofcompassioncreation156
@sphereofcompassioncreation156 8 ай бұрын
This is so awesome!
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Thanks so much...really appreciate the positive feedback!
@BigBaldandBeardiful
@BigBaldandBeardiful 8 ай бұрын
Still watching the video but wanted to drop a quick comment... You included Dr. List in the end credit scene of CA:TWS and then as a second appearance in A:AoU. However Von Strucker was also in that same end credit scene with Dr. List meaning his first appearance was also in CA:TWS and he should've been included as a second appearance in A:AoU. Just a quick observation. Can't fault you though as only 9 mins in I can't imagine how difficult it was to put this all together! Well done so far...now back to the video for me 😁
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
D'oh! Dr. List was a new add for this time around (I missed him last year), but I totally spaced adding Strucker to Winter Soldier. Great catch!
@BigBaldandBeardiful
@BigBaldandBeardiful 8 ай бұрын
@@AbitofEverything4U Haha no problem 👍
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
💯
@drewdrew2172
@drewdrew2172 8 ай бұрын
I’m watching this a second time & I can’t help but think how crazy this list would be if we included all the other villains from the marvel shows that are not yet debunked as canon to the MCU like A.O.S, the Netflix shows and Runaways, Inhumans etc. I hate to think that Bullseye, Purple Man, Cottenmouth, Grant Ward, Absorbing Man and all those dope villains we got along the way are not considered.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Ikr? I love those pre-D+ shows so much. The timeline book didn't include them, so I left them off the list, but I hope we do see them getting some much deserved respect during Secret Wars when we may get a ton of returning characters. And Bullseye should totally return in DD: Born Again!
@drewdrew2172
@drewdrew2172 8 ай бұрын
@@AbitofEverything4U 100% Bullseye needs to be back, I’m counting on it. Especially if he gets a semi-comic accurate costume too. They should bring back Elektra while they are at it too.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Right...Elektra would be nice to see return as well...she was great!
@futuramayeah
@futuramayeah 8 ай бұрын
for Age of Ultron, they knew Ultron was in a body because of the red eyes, in Spiderman Homecoming, Peter found an Ultron head in the deep storage vault with red eyes
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Interesting point...Hmmm...maybe we'll get Ultron back again. I'd definitely be down for that!
@futuramayeah
@futuramayeah 8 ай бұрын
@@AbitofEverything4U on the Disney Wish cruise ship, they had entertainment with video of Paul Rudd playing Ant man and Evangeline lilly playing Wasp on a screen, and also either video of Kamala and Sam Wilson showing up or i don't know how they made them appear, but they said Ultron was attacking.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, that disney cruise looked really cool. I actually did a video on all of the amusement park rides (including the cruise), if you are interested: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/a9eDiax9xLHGlZs.html
@luohao2321
@luohao2321 8 ай бұрын
You missed a couple of villains from the what if series: Hank Pym's Yellow Jacket, Loki from the same episode as Hank Pym's yellow jacket, Red Skull and Zola from Captain Carter's Universe as well as that tentacled monster that killed Red Skull.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, I admit that I just chose the main villains of What If from that final episode, but perhaps I should include the others? Good suggestion.
@luohao2321
@luohao2321 8 ай бұрын
@@AbitofEverything4U The more the merrier
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Indeed!
@BlackHedgehog
@BlackHedgehog 8 ай бұрын
No long comment this time because of being very tired but wow. This video would have drove me crazy to make. I also don't think you can count Zola as "alive" as his physical body died. He merely exists as a program.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Oh, you poor thing...get some sleep. I know I need some tonite after putting this vid together. And you are right, Zola is a "unique" form of being alive. But hey, AI is everything these days!
@OurobourousOB
@OurobourousOB 8 ай бұрын
I think Caecilius could have been cool to see return. I love Mads Mikkelsen, so I was sad to see him go at the end of that movie.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
I agree...he was really cool...ofc, he has to be mad at me for butchering his villain's name...oooooof! I wasn't even close!
@bronwyngavin6076
@bronwyngavin6076 8 ай бұрын
I wouldn’t call Sprite a villain either. She was just in love. I totally get your point!
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, I feel bad for her, as she wasn't thinking clearly and was acting out of passion. But still I give her villain status for knifing Sersi. That looked like it really hurt...ouch!
@jk5kwastaken
@jk5kwastaken 8 ай бұрын
I love your videos and hope you can reach your goal of full time KZfaq
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Thanks! I'm keeping at it...one vid at a time. I really appreciate the encouragement!
@tobyydb1360
@tobyydb1360 8 ай бұрын
Thank you soo much! I loved the state of Heroism video. I will, no doubt, love this one too!😍
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Awesome...hope you enjoy it!
@dakis3395
@dakis3395 8 ай бұрын
6:47 Well we did see in what if that there are multiple copies of zola around the world and even if it's just the one we saw in what if, it still exists on the main universe
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Exactly! I could definitely see Zola returning. I'm kinda surprised it hasn't happened yet, tbh.
@dakis3395
@dakis3395 8 ай бұрын
@@AbitofEverything4U I don't think he really fitted anywhere till this point but I could definitely see him return in brave new world
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Agreed...I'd love to see Zola back again!
@timtyson3910
@timtyson3910 8 ай бұрын
I personally wouldn't of counted Ralph or the she hulk camp villains outside of the wrecker guy
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Ralph was a tough one...I wanted to include him due to how much his presence in WandaVision impacted Wanda's journey. Plus, the deleted scenes for the show are now revealing that Ralph was Woo's missing person and he seems to be cutting the ankle bracelet off his leg. So ig he is a villain in a few regards? The she-hulk camp villains only made the list as they were acting really sus at first. I'm still suspicious about them wrecking her car to force her to stay there. But I can understand not considering them villains.
@KCChrisG
@KCChrisG 8 ай бұрын
Leapfrog as the next big bad would be my next move 😂
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Totally! We need him back big time!
@fromyourbed_tunes
@fromyourbed_tunes 8 ай бұрын
excellent, as always
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Thanks...had alot of fun putting it together!
@driveasandwich6734
@driveasandwich6734 8 ай бұрын
I think the other Strange in MoM should be counted as a villain, he’s introduced in a scene where he decides to kill one of the heroes.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Is that from the flashback scene, where the illuminate kill him? If so, I wasn't sure what to do with him. I kinda viewed him as a hero, since he helped defeat Thanos. But it could go either way with him, tbh.
@driveasandwich6734
@driveasandwich6734 8 ай бұрын
@@AbitofEverything4U I mean Defender Strange from the opening scene
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Oh...good point...I currently have him featured in my next vid on "heroes we've lost", but I can see your point where he is really a villain. I mean, he was trying to do the right thing by killing America so that Wanda couldn't get her, but that is still a villainous act. Hmmmm. I need to think about that.
@drewdrew2172
@drewdrew2172 8 ай бұрын
The way you pronounced Kaecilius made me chuckle 😂
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Dude...I butchered that soooooooo badly. Sigh. I almost re-recorded it, but I knew I'd butcher it even worse. lol!
@drewdrew2172
@drewdrew2172 8 ай бұрын
@@AbitofEverything4Uit happens! Haha
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
It does indeed! lol!
@MaxFlame4
@MaxFlame4 8 ай бұрын
It's very interesting and with the red box for those who came back It's more clear Also Minn-Erva is a HUGE loss ( in the comics she'is terrifying )
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Yeah… That red box was so helpful. And I agree Minn-erva is a fantastic villain and I really wish she hadn’t been killed. Sigh.
@MaxFlame4
@MaxFlame4 8 ай бұрын
@@AbitofEverything4U yeah same
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
@@MaxFlame4 💯
@sethchee1897
@sethchee1897 8 ай бұрын
Yet anothwer amazing video! Wouldnt it be cool if the ex villians in abominatioms retreat came to help she hulk in an avengers movie
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Niiiiiiice! I love that idea. That would be epic!
@mariovalle198
@mariovalle198 8 ай бұрын
It's funny to hear you say W'kabi is on probation, because he's literally in JAIL
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Oh, is he in jail? You could be right, as that's sorta implied by this line from Wakanda Forever:"Where is her treacherous husband now… but in a place where she can visit if she wished? Mine… is with the ancestors."
@MasterDSuomi
@MasterDSuomi 8 ай бұрын
Good video!
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Thanks so much!
@error_4004
@error_4004 8 ай бұрын
I honestly don’t think Icarus is dead. At least that’s just my mind hoping he isn’t. I was a fan of older runs of Eternals comics and loved the role he played in them. A part of me hope he can be brought back and reformed
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Good question! So, I forgot to mention in the video that the timeline book says that Ikaris flies "closer and closer to the sun until he incinerates". So it does seem he's dead. But, since the memories of the Eternals are stored away, they could deliver us an Ikaris v2.0. So that might be the way we see him again. I agree, he is a fascinating character!
@error_4004
@error_4004 8 ай бұрын
@@AbitofEverything4U oh dang, I guess that resolved that then :( We’ll have to wait and see what’s to come after Arishem’s already dragged on judgement of Earth I guess 💀
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, it does seem he's dead for now. Sigh. But I agree, will be cool to see what Arishem decides to do with the other Eternals!
@futuramayeah
@futuramayeah 8 ай бұрын
at the beginning of Age of Ultron movie they go to a Castle in Eastern Europe and it has a secret dungeon laboratory , in which robots were being built, who has a castle in eastern europe with their own line of robots? i think that was Doom's Castle, and they didn't say it yet.
@common_skeleton
@common_skeleton 8 ай бұрын
I mean.. Ultron is pretty directly stated to be the source of the robots
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
I always assumed it was Ultron, but I'm not 100% sure.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
@@common_skeleton Right...that would be my guess as well.
@futuramayeah
@futuramayeah 8 ай бұрын
@@AbitofEverything4U i am talking about the very beginning of the movie before they make ultron, tony sees bays of robots being constructed but he also sees the scepter and that is when Wanda enchants him, and he gets the vision of the future and then he takes the sceptre and forgets about the robots being built. so they are there being made by whoever owns the castle
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
​@@futuramayeah Ah, okay, I'm following now. Okay, that would be epic if that turned out to be Dr. Doom's castle!
@kanukki84
@kanukki84 8 ай бұрын
There is a fan theory that Norman Osborn in the first Spider-Man movie who died was actually a mentally healthy Norman Osborn :D
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Interesting! That's a cool theory...thanks for sharing it!
@futuramayeah
@futuramayeah 8 ай бұрын
i still want to know who bought Avengers tower and also , who Sunny's buyer was from Ant Man and the Wasp, you also forgot Uzman, he had the Truth syrum
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Oh yeah...the truth serum dude...nice call!
@ryangarner7721
@ryangarner7721 8 ай бұрын
Never realized how big Phase 4 is… Endgame is at 14:26 and the video is over a half our long… Oh my. Also if anyone thinks US Agent is reformed, I understand, but I’m blaming the writers of the finale. AND while i dont see how they can do it, i have seen reports that Richard Madden’s returning
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Ikr? Phase 4 was so massive. 18 entries in total. Insanity!
@futuramayeah
@futuramayeah 8 ай бұрын
oh yeah Deadpool 2 had Cable and Juggernaut, Juggernaut is just upside down in a pool , he said my brother has to sit in a chair with wheels so we're even steven, i forget what did he say made it even
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, as soon as we get Deadpool 3 in the MCU, I'll be adding alot of other villains for sure!
@thanos6635
@thanos6635 8 ай бұрын
20:20 if that's the case...wouldn't Silvie be a hero since she saved infinite lives from getting prune for the sake of free will? You could argue she causes Multiversal war...no she didnt, that was all Kang, she got no control over it, blame Kang lol
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, ig we could consider Sylvie a hero for returning free will to everyone. I think what made me consider her a villain was the way that she went about it and the fact she didn't even stick around to see what happened next, but instead took off to live in a branch. But I may have been unfair to her. Good food for thought. Thx for watching the vid and sharing your feedback. Really appreciate it!
@takclaw10
@takclaw10 8 ай бұрын
Yes!! Now the villains! This should be good and useful!
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Hope you like it...definitely one of my favorite vids at year end!
@ThatSpeedrunnerGuy
@ThatSpeedrunnerGuy 8 ай бұрын
you know, you could play a little game with the video where you guess how many villains died/survived each time :)
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Very true...that could be a fun game!
@luohao2321
@luohao2321 8 ай бұрын
I would argue that the Collector and Ross aren't really villains. collector hasn't done anything evil besides collecting stuff and after the Hulk movie, Ross is more of a grey area anti hero rather than a villain.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Good questions...ig I consider the Collector to be a villain for "collecting" all of the creatures for his own personal pleasure. That's the thing I would consider villainous, as they are forced to live in a cage for all of their existence. Wait...so am I now saying zoo keepers are villains? lol! Ross is more interesting...ig he's not really a villain in Civil War, per se, but his obsession to control the Avengers led to the break-up of the team which ultimately led to losing to Thanos. But yeah, perhaps he should be on probation after Civil War. Good suggestion!
@CharlieHepp
@CharlieHepp 8 ай бұрын
keep looking next week okay.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Sounds great...I'll have more videos loaded this weekend. Thanks again!
@adrianrojas5608
@adrianrojas5608 8 ай бұрын
I thought Mitchel Carson appeared in a tv series, I don't know in which one, maybe in Agents Of Shield, and they explained what happened with those particles. Again, not sure. Althogh i don't consider those series canon anyways, so i am still waiting to see what really happened to him.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Hmmmm...good question. I don't recall him appearing in any of the shows. The Marvel Cinematic Universe Wiki just lists him in Ant-Man and in the prelude comic. But if you happen to think of what you saw him in, let me know. Really appreciate you watching and sharing your thoughts!
@jvanek8512
@jvanek8512 8 ай бұрын
Ross and Val are interesting because aren't they officially the government with the authority of the US government?
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Yes, good point. Val is definitely the government at this point… Ross might have been removed from the government after Wakanda forever… Although he seemed to still be implied to be working for the government in secret invasion, because he was working Hill.
@jvanek8512
@jvanek8512 8 ай бұрын
To me the Celestials are more like a force of nature, but even excluding them from that to me they aren't doing what they do out of malevolence. Similar to humans and it's relationship to nature.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
I agree, it’s hard to pin down the Celestials as a classic form of villainy. But ultimately, I just looked at it from the perspective of humanity… And in their point of view, the celestials are definitely a villain, since the Celestial’s plan was to use humanity to birth Tiamut and then, of course, for all of humanity to be killed in the process.
@jvanek8512
@jvanek8512 8 ай бұрын
@@AbitofEverything4U True. I guess it's almost how we treat diseases from viruses and bacteria as villains even though they don't have villainous motives.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Excellent analogy!
@futuramayeah
@futuramayeah 8 ай бұрын
at 35 57 of this video, if you look at the Green Goblin, in an episode of Spiderman and his Amazing Friends, they go to a costume dance party and you can see Wanda and Vision dancing together, and in that episode, you see Norman Osborn coming home in a helicopter from an Insane asylum. and he was in there because he thought he was a monster. the helicopter crashes and Norman is thrown to the ground and knocked unconscious . his skin starts changing , his skin turns green and scaly , his chin gets pointy his ears get pointy and his nose gets pointy, what does that sound like to you? i think he is a Skrull, and i think he has forgotten that he is one, so when he transforms, he must have thought he was going crazy and thought he was some kind of .. goblin!. in the 1967 Fantastic Four cartoon, they battled the Skrulls and Reed hypnotized one to forget he was a Skrull and left him in the form of a cow on an island. mabye Norman was that cow.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
I love those Spiderman and his Amazing Friends cartoons. And yeah, I always thought it was weird that Norman changed like that. Maybe he was a skrull!
@TheMattLuigi
@TheMattLuigi 8 ай бұрын
27:55 should have counted every Kang fron the council ;)
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Oh my...I'd still be counting them for the next century! lol!
@TheMattLuigi
@TheMattLuigi 8 ай бұрын
hahaha @@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
@@TheMattLuigi
@user-nm7py8ek7r
@user-nm7py8ek7r 8 ай бұрын
next year can you do a new cadigole and it is dead but refomd and the simbal is the refome slmbal but if they are dead then on the top there is a x, hope you like this idea
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Oh, now that's a cool idea...nice call!
@user-nm7py8ek7r
@user-nm7py8ek7r 8 ай бұрын
@@AbitofEverything4U thanks
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
💯
@23heltar
@23heltar 6 ай бұрын
Technically with black widow I think it should be the other way around if Val knew she was working for king pin than obviously she knows she is doing something shady and with Yelana how was she to know that information was false all she knew is Nat awas dead and was grieving her death.I believe Val was manipulating her
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 6 ай бұрын
Excellent point! It does look like Val is manipulating alot of people right now. Good call!
@bennett4789
@bennett4789 8 ай бұрын
is it possible that minerva was a kree eternal and that’s why her and sersi both look like gemma chan? we know eternals can come from other planets like thanos and eros, and minerva also has the god name to boot. i dont remember much from captain marvel 1 tho so i could be missing something.
@mayo4660
@mayo4660 8 ай бұрын
Uhh i love this theory
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Niiiiice! I like that theory alot!
@GustavoSouza-nc7gu
@GustavoSouza-nc7gu 8 ай бұрын
Can't wait to see Zemo again
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
I agree...he's such an awesome villain. Would be great if he was part of Thunderbolts, even in an advisory position.
@futuramayeah
@futuramayeah 8 ай бұрын
for She Hulk tv show, you forgot Madysyn got a heart from a goat? in hell, that might have been Mephistophiles? is that who i am trying to name, the person that people kept saying was going to appear in Wandavision,
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Love me some Madysinn. She's the breakout star of Phase 4. We need to see the further adventures of Madysinn and Wongers!
@TheDukeCountyGaBoy01
@TheDukeCountyGaBoy01 8 ай бұрын
Miss minutes you need to change that clocks battery’s
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Indeed!
@hunterterrell5735
@hunterterrell5735 8 ай бұрын
If you ever have time to make one I would really like to see a multiversal state of villainy over the MCU adjacent villains like X-Men and the adjacent Spider-Man movies that would be cool Also, I would really want to at least see see an Iron Monger variant either played by Jeff Bridges in life action again or in what if since he is the first media released MCU villain.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Interestingly, with Deadpool 3 next year, we may be getting several of those multiversal villains coming into the MCU. That movie is gonna be amazing. And Jeff Bridges would be epic as an Iron Monger variant...nice call on that!
@TheMattLuigi
@TheMattLuigi 8 ай бұрын
JJJ shouldn’t be a villain, I mean I guess he is in the MCU but in that universe he’s a caricature of himself. They only showed his mean side in NWH and failed to show the kinder side of JJJ like in the Raimi trilogy. However if he’s a ‘vilain’ in the MCU, he NEEDS to create Scorpion in Spider-Man 4. That’s such a cool story line which really could use JJJ in a more unique way compared to the Raimi movies.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
I love me some JJJ...but ig with all the "fake news" being spread these days, I decided to consider him a villain as we have to hold the media accountable for vetting their stories and not just running with whatever they see fit. That said, JJJ will always be my favorite nemesis for Spidey.
@jaimedanielgarciabravo2274
@jaimedanielgarciabravo2274 6 ай бұрын
My Ranking Villans MCU 1. Thanos 2. Loki 3. Green Groblin 4. Killmoonger 5. Barrón Zemo 6. High Evolutionary 7. Kang 8. Alexander Pierce & Winter Soldier 9. Vulture 10. Wen Wu 11. Mysterio 12. Scarllet Witch 13. Ultron 14. Iron Monger 15. Abominación 16. Red Skull 17. Hella 18. Whiplash 19. Ego 20. Gorr 21. Ronan 22. Namor 23. Destroyer 24. Justin Hamer 25. Yellow Jacket 26. The Shockers 27. Alldrich Killian 28. Ghost 29. The Gran Máster 30. Ahisha 31. The Colector 32. Yong Roo 33. Kallsilius 34. Sonny Burch 35. Dreakov 36. The Mandarín 37. Dormamou 38. Dar-Been 39. Modok 40. Taskmaster 41. Malekin
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 6 ай бұрын
That's a really cool idea...I need to rank the villains. Loved reading your ranking!
@futuramayeah
@futuramayeah 8 ай бұрын
for Dr Strange, the middle guy who stole the page, i think you got his name wrong? he is still alive as one of the mindless ones of Dormamu
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Dang it...I forgot to mention that while he's not really dead, I viewed it as him actually getting a fate far worse then death...poor dude likely wishes he'd been killed! Anyway, excellent feedback on the vid!
@MCLegoboy
@MCLegoboy 4 ай бұрын
I would be hesitant to call most of the No Way Home villains redeemed. Being cured does not mean that you are now good. This may be in part because I disagree a lot with some of the characterizations of the characters and how we are led to believe they are the exact same ones from the movies, but the only one I can truly say is redeemed is Doc Ock because he does actually return to fight off the villains with the Spider-Men, and theoretically, the arms have been neutralized to where Otto will always be in control. Norman Osborn is still Norman Osborn, he's not really a good person despite how much they played up the duality angle between him and the Green Goblin personas, so at best I'm putting him on Probation. Electro is another person that I feel is going to be on probation because Max's self-confidence (even with his glow-up) could still lead him into perhaps trying to regain his powers. I think that in the moment, because he is defeated, he's not fighting back because he knows there's nothing he can do. He doesn't hate Peter Parker, and maybe he'll even try to regain his powers in the hopes to do good, but that could then lead him down a path of villainy once again. Lizard is one I'm very on the fence about being reformed because if this is the same Dr. Connors from The Amazing Spider-Man, he really is reluctant to ever become Lizard again, the Lizard persona does have a bit more control than Connors, but he may also be addicted to whatever turned him back into the Lizard, so you know, when he returns, he needs to be under supervisions in a facility for his own safety, which is basically indefinite probation. Sandman is one where I could actually see him being redeemed, in fact, if this were a more mutated version of Sandman from Spider-Man 3 who just stayed as sand, he actually sounds like he may have gone the route of heroism in his universe, however, his own stupidity and ease of manipulation got him to join Electro in the movie. Curing him also just puts him back in a world were he is a wanted man because he is a known criminal, except now he can finally be caught. It's possible that he will go willingly, but we just don't know, and we likely won't know. I suppose it depends on if his daughter is still terminally ill, if she died, or if she is cured and he feels like he can fulfill his sentences with peace of mind. Tobey and Andrew may feel better that they were able to cure their enemies than leading them to oblivion, but that doesn't mean they'll be receptive to such treatments once they return home. So Otto is truly Redeemed, the other four are on Probation unless we actually follow up on their stories and we can positively confirm what happened once they returned home.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 4 ай бұрын
Wow...very good commentary...no one else has made that argument, but I can definitely see your logic. Love it!
@futuramayeah
@futuramayeah 8 ай бұрын
and we had Dr Doom in Fantastic Four (1994) and (2005)
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Very true...I liked him in 2005 alot!
@TheMattLuigi
@TheMattLuigi 8 ай бұрын
Also Justice for Morbius, he’s a MCU villain in my heart ;)
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
So Morbius...oh Morbius...ig I am keeping the SSU off the list until they officially appear in the MCU proper. The awful Vulture post-credit could mean Morbius should be included, but I hate that PCS so much that I don't count it as existing. Rumor has it, however, that Spider-Man 4 will be a bigger connection with the SSU, so perhaps Morbius will likely make the cut at that point. But it's on the condition that he return the Vulture to the MCU first, dern it!
@TheMattLuigi
@TheMattLuigi 8 ай бұрын
@@AbitofEverything4U what if peter gets send to the SSU ;.;
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
@@TheMattLuigi Noooooooooooooooo!
@jvanek8512
@jvanek8512 8 ай бұрын
16:43 i would still consider Wanda a villain because she was still hurting people
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Yeah… I could definitely see her still being considered a villain. The only reason I gave her a different status was because she did destroy all of the darkhold copies to prevent anyone else from falling prey to them and she took herself out of the picture by collapsing the building. But she certainly was very villainous throughout the majority of the movie.
@futuramayeah
@futuramayeah 8 ай бұрын
in the Winter Soldier, Arnom Zola was just a computer program, so i don't think his program got destroyed, or did it?
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Boy, that's the million dollar question. It seemed to imply that he was stored on those data banks, but I could also imagine there being backups. However, the fact that we've never seen him return makes me question that. I wonder if we'll get an answer in future MCU entries. Would be very cool to see him return in his AI form!
@LukasLouzada
@LukasLouzada 8 ай бұрын
waiting to see how agatha is gonna turn out
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, that series looks interesting!
@futuramayeah
@futuramayeah 8 ай бұрын
i wanted the Supreme Intelligencor to be a big head in a jar, not an A.i. like Carol said it was, and i wanted it/him to be the big bad of the Marvels or rather Captain Marvel 2 , i wasn't expecting them to add Photon and Ms Marvel back when i was imagining the second movie. i wanted her to face it/him and for him/it to have considerable mental powers that would have made it hard to get near him.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, it was a bummer to see the Supreme Intelligence killed off so quickly. That said, it did provide a solid motivation for Dar-Benn's revenge. But they could have done alot more with the Supreme Intelligence if they were given the chance.
@lawznwdsc
@lawznwdsc 8 ай бұрын
@@AbitofEverything4U I hope if the MCU do does a soft reset lots of the villains come back and get more focus.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
@@lawznwdsc I'd be so down for that!
@marzman4
@marzman4 8 ай бұрын
Ultron has the potential to return so I never really considered him dead expecially with his memories ending up in white vision. Also his final quotes towards the end of age of Ultron. Edit: I also am under the belief (because I love spoilers) that Dr.Doom was supposed to show up in wakanda forever because if I'm not mistaken, the infiltration scene with the (I think) Americans never went anywhere, and Namors ambitions never really made sense because there was supposed to be someone behind closed doors pulling the strings for the conflict. It was speculated he was cut because of either budget or the fact that the leaks came out, I'm not entirely sure. But i find it really weird that in MOM there was an empty seat for what was presumed to be t'challa, and they took the time to introduce reed too. I'm just really hyped to see Doom enter the scene tho and I pray they do justice to his character too! -on a side note. Lmso
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, Ultron is a tough one...I honestly hope he returns, perhaps in Armor Wars. But it does kinda seem like if he was still out there somewhere, we'd have seen him by now. I do like the idea of him returning due to White Vision. That's a cool idea. And yeah, it sure feels like Doom was going to be introduced in WF. Not sure why we didn't see it happen, but I do hope we get him sooner than later!
@Levi_52_336
@Levi_52_336 8 ай бұрын
20:40 The timeline book says he was incinerated.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Oh yeah! It does, doesn't it. Niiiice! Okay, thanks for the reminder on that!
@Pigwars420
@Pigwars420 8 ай бұрын
In Dr Strange, Kacleius isn't killed, he's just made into a mindless one. hes immortal by all counts
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, I forgot to mention that he's not really dead...that said, he actually got a fate far worse then death...poor dude likely wishes he'd been killed!
@leedixon2072
@leedixon2072 8 ай бұрын
Wish they would stop killing off all the great villains. Noticed there’s a correlation between hiring British actors and them being portrayed as evil then dying… Loki (multiple), Ronan, Malekith, Ulysses Klaue, Aldrich Killian, Maya Hansen, Arnim Zola and most recently… well I’ll not say who so as not to spoil that!
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Oh wow...that's a fascinating observation. I hadn't noticed that before, but you are right!
@leedixon2072
@leedixon2072 8 ай бұрын
There’s more if you include villains turned good, and also just generally good characters… Definitely an agenda 😂😂
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Very true indeed!
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