Abortion in Dirty Dancing, Explained

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PBS Origins

PBS Origins

2 жыл бұрын

Dirty Dancing is an iconic film from 1987, but do you remember what it’s really about? Dirty Dancing’s entire plot wouldn’t be possible without the abortion that’s at the heart of the movie. Join the writer of Dirty Dancing Eleanor Bergstein, special guest Gretchen Sisson, and our resident professor, Danielle Bainbridge, as they trace the history of abortion access through Dirty Dancing and what it means for our world today.
A previous version of this video contained personal information in the background of a shot. We have blurred this in the new version of the episode.
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Credits:
Director: Dolly Li
Producer: Tien Nguyen
Consulting Producer: Danielle Bainbridge
On-camera appearances by: Danielle Bainbridge, Eleanor Bergstein, Gretchen Sisson
Written by: Dolly Li and Tien Nguyen
Voiceover by: Kiana Taylor
Director of Photography: Brian Inocencio
Gaffer: Seth MacMillan
Camera Operator: Dylan Bergeson
Online Editor: Travis Hatfield
Editor: Eurie Chung
Motion Graphics: Jonathan Gil, Travis Hatfield
Research Assistant: Allen Cao, Kiana Taylor
Makeup Artist: Dawn Coleman
Set Designer: Tori Laxalt
Fact Checker: Yvonne McGreevy
Post-production services & facilities provided by: Flash Cuts
Executive Producer for Flash Cuts: Eurie Chung
Executive Producers for CAAM: Stephen Gong, Donald Young
Supervising Producer for CAAM: Sapana Sakya
Coordinating Producer for CAAM: Czarina Garcia
Executive in Charge for PBS: Maribel Lopez
Director of Programming for PBS: Gabrielle Ewing
This program is a production of Plum Studios and the Center for Asian American Media (CAAM).
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@pbsorigins
@pbsorigins 2 жыл бұрын
A previous version of this video contained personal information in the background of a shot. We have blurred this in the new version of the episode.
@n-0-1
@n-0-1 2 жыл бұрын
PBS is deleting my comments. All of my comments fall within the terms of KZfaq and the 1st amendment, but I don't think PBS cares much about that.
@ronjaj.addams-ramstedt1023
@ronjaj.addams-ramstedt1023 2 жыл бұрын
Please block @anhedonia, it must be a bot or a spam team, considering the tens of comments and replies that account has already sent.
@sionnachmacbradaigh1010
@sionnachmacbradaigh1010 2 жыл бұрын
Mainly because America is a terrible place in which freedom is a illusion .
@goldenvulture6818
@goldenvulture6818 Жыл бұрын
@@sionnachmacbradaigh1010 You meant to write "is an illusion"
@nicholewojtanowski43
@nicholewojtanowski43 Жыл бұрын
@@ronjaj.addams-ramstedt1023 From what I can see, the account you want them to ban just has views contrary to yours AND they can explain and support their arguments whereas you cannot seem to bothered to…that isn’t justification to report them…to be honest, it is YOU who should be banned for attempting to get someone else banned using lies.
@valeriecarpentier6384
@valeriecarpentier6384 2 жыл бұрын
Why does america wants millions of poor babies they wont even support through education and medical care? Someone please answer me.
@nathanielcraig3588
@nathanielcraig3588 2 жыл бұрын
Third world country wearing a Gucci belt. There's no logic, it's about keeping the population stupid and poor so they're easy to control. That's why they're so against gun control, free quality education and Free healthcare.
@islandrebelmakeup4653
@islandrebelmakeup4653 2 жыл бұрын
For starters, AMERICA doesn’t want this. The majority of the country wants abortion to be legal. What it really is is conservatives being able to control us through bizarre processes (like how the supreme court is appointed) that make it so they maintain control. But I’ve also really wondered, why? Pretty much every decision like this that seems to hurt people comes back to money, but I can’t quite find how that’s the case with this. But then just days after their ruling on roe v wade was released, there was another ruling that effectively disallows the EPA (environmental protection agency) from protecting dumping in waterways. Basically they handed that right to regulation back to the states as well. Now I see where the money is in THAT, yet no one was talking about it. It seems like they came up with a very detrimental distraction.
@yadiaag7771
@yadiaag7771 2 жыл бұрын
Because the economy can’t move on or prosper without a large population. Why do you think Japan, China and South Korea will have problems in the future, the country cannot sustain themselves without people.
@DreamNationZz
@DreamNationZz 2 жыл бұрын
You already know the answer to this question 🙋🏽‍♀️
@rais14
@rais14 2 жыл бұрын
@Ndeye Delgado this.
@hunnerdayEDT
@hunnerdayEDT 2 жыл бұрын
Holy, crap. $250 in 1963 is $2300 today.
@n-0-1
@n-0-1 2 жыл бұрын
Ikr, isn't it crazy how much money it costs to murder a human being? Its almost like life is worth more than $2300? Even crazier, a pack of condoms are a whopping $10, them shits are waaaayyy too expensive. Maybe it should be cheaper to abort a baby than to use birth control?
@dodaprettygirlrock
@dodaprettygirlrock 2 жыл бұрын
Oh wow
@FC-hj9ub
@FC-hj9ub 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks inflation -_-
@n-0-1
@n-0-1 2 жыл бұрын
@@FC-hj9ub Condoms aren't that expensive, calm down.
@minanusskuchen2292
@minanusskuchen2292 2 жыл бұрын
What most people don't get: this isn't just about whether you are pro or against Abortions. It's also about who gets to decide. I want to decide what is right for my body, future and surcumstances, not what others or a few people in a government dictate. If I am the one to get pregnant, I should be the one to make that choice. And the past proves, even if abortions are made illegal, they are happening anyway. They are just more dangerous and inexessible.
@heart_beat_s354
@heart_beat_s354 2 жыл бұрын
surcumstances is circumstances Inexessible is inaccessible Please excuse my mild ocd (obsessive compulsive disorder). It is a thoughtful comment.
@nillyk5671
@nillyk5671 2 жыл бұрын
I understand when the person was raped but if you decide to lay with someone and it results in pregnancy, take responsibility for it. You don't want anyone deciding about what happens to your body but you can decide what to do with a baby's life? 😐
@xtinkerbellax3
@xtinkerbellax3 2 жыл бұрын
@@nillyk5671 Yes, because it needs my body to survive. Also abortion can be a responsible choice. Being anti abortion is just not a realistic stance when you break everything down.
@iamcasihart
@iamcasihart 2 жыл бұрын
Mina, ignore the assholes. You are a beautiful woman and your sentiments perfectly convey how I and many other women feel. I had my abortion 21 years ago. I was 17 days pregnant and it was the most crucial, important, best choice I’ve ever made in my lifetime. It was not easy. I did not take it lightly. It was painful and scary. I was on my own and afraid to talk to anyone about it. The amazing people at the clinic were such a support, and they gave me all of the information and never tried to persuade me one way or the other. I knew what I wanted and needed to do. They were kind and supportive. This was in Tennessee, and it pains me to know that girls and women in Tennessee now have no access in their entire state. They’d have to travel to Illinois or possibly North Carolina. It’s awful. I just want you to know that you matter and if you should ever be faced with an unwanted pregnancy, there are many women like me who would love and support you in any way we can.
@iamcasihart
@iamcasihart 2 жыл бұрын
@@nillyk5671 I took responsibility by having an abortion ASAP. I was 17 days pregnant. I cannot imagine anything more responsible than that, when faced with an unwanted pregnancy at age 22.
@sableindian
@sableindian 2 жыл бұрын
I am 72 years old. I graduated from high school and entered college while I was married. I got the opportunity to work for Pacific Bell TWICE, but never did. Each time a woman applied for a job at this company, she also had a pregnancy test. Both times, I was pregnant. I was devastated. The doctor said something that I never thought about. He said, "Now don't go off and do something stupid. You keep that baby." I had 9 pregnancies with the same husband. I have 7 living children. It turned out that I am RH - and I never took Rhogham. My husband was heterozygous. My last child sensitized me. I had one miscarriage and one still birth. But, I can imagine MANY women who may have sought an abortion to get that job. Plus they gave you the pregnancy test AFTER you passed the regular test. And, of course, men didn't have this physical test. Having an abortion is a very hard decision no one else can understand. Each situation is different and either way, the memory is with that person forever. These women need love and support. If it is a race thing for European women to have more babies, talk about it, the whole country will encourage it. But don't force women to do what men want and don't treat women like children who can't make an intelligent decision, no matter how hard it is.
@n-0-1
@n-0-1 2 жыл бұрын
I like how you are turning the issue of abortion into an issue of "men vs women." As if men are taking away women's rights just for the fun of it. Well sadly for you, there was never a constitutionally protected right to abortion, rather they only made the argument that the state should not be able to breach the privacy of a women. Stop trying to shift the focus of the actual problem of abortion. The only rights being taken away are the ones afforded to the baby that is in a mothers womb.
@FC-hj9ub
@FC-hj9ub 2 жыл бұрын
Should already be illegal to make women take pregnancy tests for a job. Should but this disgusting world doesn't work that way
@n-0-1
@n-0-1 2 жыл бұрын
@@FC-hj9ub It is illegal in the US to force someone to do something that they aren't willing to do. It is illegal in the US for companies and businesses to discriminate against their employees or hiring candidates. It is illegal for companies to access private health records of their employees. HIPAA. Certain jobs ensure the health of their employees or provide health insurance, which is why they must know if they are pregnant before providing such a service.
@dc9631
@dc9631 2 жыл бұрын
@@n-0-1 keep believing those lies....it might be illegal but it's done everywhere, every day. I was told on a job interview for an Accounting position that the boss only likes burnettes in 2021. I said that is discrimination and the interviewer said yes I know but that's what my boss told me to do. I don't have the means to hire a lawyer to pursue a lawsuit. So basically it doesn't matter. That company can discriminate until someone can afford and prove that it happened. My current employer hired their first minority.....you'd think management burnt the place down.....the old white people were so upset.....the younger ones didn't even notice. So that is great that there are laws but they don't actually apply to everyone.
@n-0-1
@n-0-1 2 жыл бұрын
@@dc9631 "I was told on a job interview for an Accounting position that the boss only likes burnettes in 2021." - Discrimination is different than finding the best candidate for a position. If HR wants to hire brunettes, this doesn't mean that they are discriminating against other hair colors. What you are doing is conflating choice with discrimination. Also, this is an abortion debate so you are way off topic.
@music_YT2023
@music_YT2023 2 жыл бұрын
Loved Dirty Dancing and I remember the abortion storyline and class stratification well. It's frustrating today because I have heard too many forced-birth advocates saying, "just don't have sex." What about couples who are trying for babies and something goes wrong with the pregnancy? What about miscarriages that the body just won't clear on its own? What about just having bodily autonomy? And what happens when the Supreme Court strikes down the right to contraception (which, along with same-sex marriage, Judge Thomas indicated in his opinion should be up for 'discussion')? Which 'rights' will be revoked next?
@lesussie2237
@lesussie2237 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting how Judge Thomas didn't mention Loving v Virginia which was ruled based on the same foundations as Roe v Wade
@soapy27
@soapy27 2 жыл бұрын
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@gur262
@gur262 2 жыл бұрын
Isn't it clear? Get married at 16 by whoever your father decided is gonna be your husband. They are fundamental radical christians, no different than the Islamic terrorists they like to talk about alot.
@anniikka
@anniikka 2 жыл бұрын
@@lesussie2237 Might be because the asshole benefits personally from Loving v Virginia, doesn't he. This shit is always about controlling others. He's not gonna want to hand over control over himself to someone else. But seeing as to who else sits on that SCOTUS with him, I'd be leaking in my shorts just a bit if I were him. Sorry about the language. That self-centered mofo gets my blood up.
@MH-be6hr
@MH-be6hr 2 жыл бұрын
These radical-reactionary conservatives believe that God/Jesus has given them the right to coerce a wayward society back onto the straight and narrow path again, in line with conservatively interpreted Biblical doctrine, consequences be damned! That's why there's no reasoning with these people. The right will not stop until it gets its way entirely, on its complete agenda. To do this, to carry out what they say is God's will, they will have to destroy our civil rights and liberties and overturn all court decisions and legislation seen as being an obstacle to their radical right agenda. 💔🇺🇸
@RavenFilms
@RavenFilms 2 жыл бұрын
Young women aren’t mature enough to make these choices, let’s give them a little human to be responsible for instead.
@limalicious
@limalicious 2 жыл бұрын
And no infrastructure to help!
@n-0-1
@n-0-1 2 жыл бұрын
Women have been having babies since their early teens for nearly a thousand years. Where did you hear this absurd argument? Its disgusting how your immediate solution to this rare issue is to murder the baby.
@n-0-1
@n-0-1 2 жыл бұрын
@@limalicious Ikr, women actually have to take care of their own children. Its crazy how women aren't able to just solve their issues by murdering their children like they did before.
@robynbrowne1277
@robynbrowne1277 2 жыл бұрын
so what if it wasn't there decision to have the little human. What is someone made that decision for her and she's left with no option. It's comments like this that think women only have kids by mistake and it's their choice to do it.
@n-0-1
@n-0-1 2 жыл бұрын
@@robynbrowne1277 In the majority of abortion cases, the woman isn't raped. In most cases, the mother murders her own child due to potential "inconveniences" that may affect their life. Most of these inconveniences are based on financing a pregnancy and raising child. Many of the millions of adopting parents in the US are willing to care for and love the baby, and possibly even finance the woman's pregnancy. It is comments like yours that leads women to believe that the only solution to an unwanted pregnancy is murder.
@onbearfeet
@onbearfeet 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who can't survive pregnancy, I appreciate your talking about this.
@Nan-59
@Nan-59 2 жыл бұрын
We really heard from people standing where you were. Thank you for speaking out, and I’m sorry.
@n-0-1
@n-0-1 2 жыл бұрын
Then don't have sex... Its sad how your immediate solution to your health issue is abortion, although you have both the ability to stay abstinent or to use any one of the dozens of various types of birth control. Disgusting. I've had like 20 people reply to this comment with questions. Please read the rest of the thread if you care for answers because I promise they have already been answered.
@duchesskenni
@duchesskenni 2 жыл бұрын
@@n-0-1 your comment is disgusting and unnecessary
@CB19196
@CB19196 2 жыл бұрын
She didn't say she doesn't use birth control. Birth control can fail even when used perfectly. By the way, empathy is a nice thing to have
@n-0-1
@n-0-1 2 жыл бұрын
@@CB19196 Intercourse, especially without proper protection, is risky. Except, your idea of risk mitigation strays from the other countless methods of avoidance, and entirely focuses on people's immoral belief that murdering the baby is the only solution to their potential inconveniences during and after pregnancy. Most, meaning most adults who have sex, fully understand that sex is risky due to the possibility of a pregnancy. Both the man and woman should use various forms of contraceptive before they participate in intercourse in order to avoid an unwanted pregnancy.
@mmmuuuuuuuuiiiiiiiiirrrrr
@mmmuuuuuuuuiiiiiiiiirrrrr 2 жыл бұрын
I think about this line all the time, "He was supposed to be a real doctor. He had a dirty knife and a folding table."
@n-0-1
@n-0-1 2 жыл бұрын
Regardless of how a baby is killed, it is still murder.
@lilyastley9892
@lilyastley9892 2 жыл бұрын
@@n-0-1 wow you really like spamming everyone’s replies with shaming abortions… did you even watch the video? “pro lifers” ironically don’t care about the mother when her life is on the line, and it’s great to say “well don’t have sex” until it happens without consent, or when someone lies about using protection
@lilyastley9892
@lilyastley9892 2 жыл бұрын
@@n-0-1 and it’s a clump of cells. i don’t understand why it’s much different to using antibacterial spray to kill bacteria, or killing plants to eat. they’re all living cells, a foetus is not a human yet and no one seems to care about them after they’re born into an environment which is not loving and lacks the right resources to raise a child properly
@n-0-1
@n-0-1 2 жыл бұрын
@@lilyastley9892 "It’s a clump of cells." - You are a clump of cells, I am a clump of cells. Are we not human? "I don’t understand why it’s much different to using antibacterial spray to kill bacteria, or killing plants to eat." - Killing a living, sentient, semi-autonomous human being that has intrinsic value is much different than just killing a plant that lacks most of those. "A fetus is not a human." - Fetus is a Latin word for baby. So when you are talking about a fetus, you are talking about a baby. A simple way to determine if a baby is human is if it is in the womb of another human, and originated from the mothers reproductive organs. Regardless of how conscious, how sentient, how autonomous, a baby is, it is human and has constitutional rights. "No one seems to care about them after they’re born into an environment which is not loving and lacks the right resources to raise a child properly" - Do the babies that grow up poor, or in a non-loving families not deserve the opportunity to live. Should we just murder the ones who grow up poor? Do you think it is the mothers responsibility and right to mitigate suffering by murdering her child? We need to create systems that protect and help children who are born into these kinds of terrible situations, maybe like church?
@n-0-1
@n-0-1 2 жыл бұрын
@@lilyastley9892 "wow you really like spamming everyone’s replies with shaming abortions" - I hope to inform people who aren't. I also hope to shame people who are ignorant. "did you even watch the video?" - yes. "'pro lifers' ironically don’t care about the mother when her life is on the line"- We care about both the mother and their children. In fact, pro-life people believe that both the woman and her baby should be saved during pregnancy complications such as ectopic pregnancies. If the baby cannot survive due to it somehow killing the mother, the doctor should strive to save both the mother and her baby. "'well don’t have sex' until it happens without consent, or when someone lies about using protection" - Victims of rapists should have the right to decide if their rapist is capitally punished. Sadly, the majority of women who have abortions aren't having an abortion due to unwanted pregnancies caused by rape. The only way to completely avoid the consequences of intercourse is to avoid it entirely, or to stay abstinent.
@ascent8487
@ascent8487 2 жыл бұрын
“The entire plot is driven by abortion.” That’s true and I hadn’t ever considered it.
@jocelynfisher3174
@jocelynfisher3174 2 жыл бұрын
Right? I knew but I didn't realize that without Penny's need for an abortion, the plot does, indeed, fall apart... wow.
@nocomment2468
@nocomment2468 2 жыл бұрын
The abortion plot is central to Baby’s disillusionment with her world. It also shows what a genuine and non-judgmental character she is.
@FrankieUtka
@FrankieUtka 2 жыл бұрын
I just cried so much as the gravity of the overturn finally set in. I have a uterus and I'm transmasc, and I truly feel like I almost have no more say in my own body.
@n-0-1
@n-0-1 2 жыл бұрын
Ikr, the gravity of this decision will save thousands of babies a year. Its almost like you don't have the constitutional right to murder, or to make decisions for someone else body. That other persons body being the baby of course. Your "right" to make decisions for your own body stop after conception, because then you are only making decisions for someone else body.
@karolinkiehl4097
@karolinkiehl4097 2 жыл бұрын
You are valid and I hope that you'll be okay. I don't think I'll find the right words to comfort you, technically I am just a stranger. But I am sure this isn't the end and it'll be alright.
@geezygee
@geezygee 2 жыл бұрын
When i performed Grease in HS, in the late 90s, the director changed the "virginity pin" into a bowling pin. Rizzo also didn't almost get pregnant either - completely changes the entire dynamic
@megamanx466
@megamanx466 2 жыл бұрын
$250 in 1963 would be about $2,300 today. Just a fyi. 🤔
@n-0-1
@n-0-1 2 жыл бұрын
Thats crazy, its almost like a human life is worth more than $2300?
@Veeravaara
@Veeravaara 2 жыл бұрын
@@n-0-1 it's not a human life yet, no more than a sperm cell or an egg. I hope you're using every one of your viable sex cells and not participating in baby massacre
@Mu51kM4n
@Mu51kM4n 2 жыл бұрын
youtube creator studio should have simple tools that allow you to make minor edits, like blurring things in the background or adding subtext in the video so that you edit the video without having to delete, re-upload and lose all your previous views.
@yennefer440
@yennefer440 2 жыл бұрын
I think it does already
@VeeLondon1449
@VeeLondon1449 2 жыл бұрын
♥️ Everything. Abortion is the main event of the story it’s weaved through this phenomenal classic summer romance via Penny and the circumstances of Penny’s unwanted pregnancy and the discovery of Penny’s abortion due to Baby telling her Dad (a doctor) which results in ending “Baby’s” Francis perceived innocence by everybody. And how her father views her. Francis matures from a pampered “Baby” to a young sexual women over that summer her eyes are opened. To the reality’s of life, class, lies, deception and ultimately finding love.
@n-0-1
@n-0-1 2 жыл бұрын
Actually this is a story of an irresponsible women who had sex and then attempted murder her own baby.
@music_YT2023
@music_YT2023 2 жыл бұрын
@@n-0-1 I see from your other remarks that you are just an incendiary troll. However, to this specific comment: women need abortions and it has nothing to do with your views of their sexual proclivity. Pregnancy is a result of sexual activity, but forcing someone to endure pregnancy as a form of religious moral punishment is unnecessary and cruel. Sometimes a pregnancy will go awry and result in a fetal malformation or partial miscarriage and requires outside intervention in the form of abortion care to remove the remains from the woman before she becomes septic and dies. Sometimes the sexual activity was unwanted. And sometimes, the sexual activity resulted in a pregnancy that cannot be endured - for whatever reason. And that is the main crux of why privacy rights between a woman and her doctor should be upheld. random stranger on the streets may have a variety of opinions on whatever the pregnant woman chooses to do, but that random stranger should not get to interfere in the woman's right to medical care.
@hopebabanskaya2819
@hopebabanskaya2819 2 жыл бұрын
@@n-0-1 wow are rally have nothing to do of you go over leaving mindless comments
@n-0-1
@n-0-1 2 жыл бұрын
@@hopebabanskaya2819 this wasn't mindless. In fact, what I said was factually true.
@saltf.3856
@saltf.3856 2 жыл бұрын
@@n-0-1 so you want women to die? Okay got it. 👌🏼
@toffeestrange7706
@toffeestrange7706 Жыл бұрын
I remember my older brother saying he had a female friend who couldn't get an abortion when they were teenagers, so she stole a bunch of pain pills from her mom and had all her guy friends beat her and punch her stomach till she miscarried...
@helene4397
@helene4397 Жыл бұрын
Did that friend survive?
@daisyadele967
@daisyadele967 Жыл бұрын
I had a friend that had her boyfriend punch her in the stomach to end the pregnancy.
@charlottesghost2845
@charlottesghost2845 2 жыл бұрын
it's not 'sort-of' a human rights issue.... it's a human rights issue, full stop.
@n-0-1
@n-0-1 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly, babies deserve the same rights as their mothers. It was always a human rights issue.
@Trioditis
@Trioditis 2 жыл бұрын
A human being has more rights than a parasite that starts out as a clump of cells. I don't think it's a difficult concept to understand.
@almamater489
@almamater489 2 жыл бұрын
@@n-0-1 in order for it to be a baby it has to be born
@n-0-1
@n-0-1 2 жыл бұрын
@@almamater489 actually, according to the 1st and 14th amendment, unborn babies have rights. Its literally in documents that specify the constitional meanings behind its terminology.
@juliaredbird6758
@juliaredbird6758 2 жыл бұрын
@@n-0-1 but you are not aborting an actual baby, you are aborting an embryo or at most a fetus that isn't even half way to being developed enough to survive outside the parents body. After about 1 month an embryo is the size of a grain of rice. It's literally just a bundle of cells. Why are you putting the existence of rice grain sized bundle of cells over the bodily autonomy, health and even life of a woman/teenager/child?
@jso6790
@jso6790 2 жыл бұрын
This was excellent, Dr. Bainbridge. I really appreciated how you were able to engage in some of the serious details, while connecting it to such a well-known and loved piece of movie-making. Showing us the shortcomings of the film, shortcomings because of the white washed world of these Catskills resorts, also helped underscore so many of the important points you made about inequality in health care. Thank you. I hope people will share this video with the Dirty Dancing fans in their lives.
@n-0-1
@n-0-1 2 жыл бұрын
This video wasnt made to display the inequality of health care in the US. It was obviously a strategy to shift peoples focus away from the actual victims of abortion.
@jso6790
@jso6790 2 жыл бұрын
@@n-0-1 No, the video very clearly discusses the true victims- living, breathing women who are having their rights stripped away from them, even though it doesn't name the religious lunatics imposing their religious views on us specifically.
@n-0-1
@n-0-1 2 жыл бұрын
@@jso6790 First, it was never a woman's right to kill their offspring, which is exactly why Roe v Wade was just overruled. Second, I am not religious at all, and have never been. Sadly, people like you think that you must have some religious agenda in order to foster healthy morals. While you are too busy focusing on women screaming in the streets because they will now be forced to have responsible sex, you are forgetting about the rights of the baby in the womb. Either you are ignorant and too busy focusing elsewhere, or you are too morally corrupt to think clearly and logically.
@cynfulification
@cynfulification 2 жыл бұрын
My question to the government that doesn't allow abortion. Do they want to increase more abortion deaths from back alley doctors? If anything the quack doctor business will thrive. Why not provide legal procedures that prevents more deaths from abortion?
@JeantheSecond
@JeantheSecond 2 жыл бұрын
The kind of people who support banning abortion don’t care if women die.
@emilybarclay8831
@emilybarclay8831 2 жыл бұрын
Because they don’t care if women die and they don’t care if that kills more foetuses. Literally all they want is control. Control of people’s bodies given to them freely by religions fools who don’t realise that their bodies are next on the agenda
@adrenalynn1015
@adrenalynn1015 Жыл бұрын
Ty for this. When my much wanted baby died in utero at 17 weeks and my body held onto the pregnancy for whatever reason, an abortion (also called a D&C) was the only treatment. Without it I would have died & my child who was 3 at the time would have lost her mother. Abortion is healthcare and whoever needs it should have easy access. I wish people would stop repeating the fiction that women use abortion as contraception. It’s absurd, no one does that. Also contraception should be free and easily accessible.
@BroverKillSauce
@BroverKillSauce Жыл бұрын
Stupid argument. Nobody wants to take away your ability to get rid of a dead baby's body inside you. An abortion is where you kill a LIVING baby inside you. BIG difference.
@yourfavoritebubbe7444
@yourfavoritebubbe7444 2 жыл бұрын
Shout out to the other Mount Holyoke students watching this. Baby is going to MHC in the fall and named after Francis Perkins (first female member of a presidential cabinet). As MHC students we watch this movie every fall at orientation. It is really magical and the story is really important and still relevant. GO BABY!
@jenniferworley9888
@jenniferworley9888 2 жыл бұрын
Love the inclusive language such as “all childbearing people” as well as the focus on bipoc struggles that are often dismissed or not addressed at all with this issue. Well done
@theladyprincess
@theladyprincess 2 жыл бұрын
i’ve seen this movie numerous times and the more i think about it though, if it wasn’t for baby befriending billy in the first place she wouldn’t have gotten to know penny and help her with the situation, she also wouldn’t have filled in to dance with johnny and eventually fall in love with him..
@neptunes_oeuvre
@neptunes_oeuvre 2 жыл бұрын
please remember that this is not only affecting cis-women. Trans & Non-binary & intersex people are also HEAVILY affected by this.
@Mckinley-mick
@Mckinley-mick 2 жыл бұрын
Yes!! It’s so fucking sad and awful.
@chelmrtz
@chelmrtz 2 жыл бұрын
This!
@n-0-1
@n-0-1 2 жыл бұрын
All those men transitioning into women will now not be able to abort their babies? How does that make any sense?
@Laquia
@Laquia 2 жыл бұрын
Disabled people as well. Let's not forget about them.
@n-0-1
@n-0-1 2 жыл бұрын
@@JenSell1626 I am not able to tell what argument you are making, but I can only assume that you are trying to argue that either women now aren't afforded "bodily autonomy" by the state, or that babies aren't human because they don't have full "biological autonomy." Before I explain why you are wrong in both ways, you must understand the difference between bodily autonomy and biological autonomy. Bodily autonomy is the ability to do what you want with your own body, whereas biological autonomy is the ability for a person (eg. a baby) to survive without assistance. Women have and always will have bodily autonomy, but it is highly regulated in various circumstances. For example, no person is allowed to use heroin recreationally. Although I would argue that women should have the ability to do anything they choose to their body, we must understand that a baby is not apart of her body. In fact, babies have different brain activity and consciousness, heartbeat patterns, digestive and nervous system, and often a different sex and blood type. Because it is both widely accepted and agreed in the science and medical community that a baby is an entirely different human from their mother, the mother should not have the choice or ability to do what she wants with the living human inside of her. To put this simply, a baby is an individual and human being with value and constitutional rights.
@missjoshemmett
@missjoshemmett 2 жыл бұрын
I am alive because mother chickened out of back alley abortion. And alive. And alive. And alive. When will this hell end? At 76, new people bought the apartment building I have lived in for 19 years. They have caused me to have an emotional stroke, a heart attack and heart surgery. Not to mention the anxiety, depression and fear. My life has been a 'living' hell since I was born. It never stops. Everyone else in my family got to die...but not me. I will go when God takes me and Heaven better be all it is promised to be. (I am white, disabled and poor...so can't move to another apartment.)
@missmiss6516
@missmiss6516 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry this is happening to you. God bless you. Where there's life there is hope. Do not give up.
@n-0-1
@n-0-1 2 жыл бұрын
Wait, are you saying that you wish your mother aborted you? And then you are also saying that you believe in god? That same god that will send you to hell for aborting your own children? Its pathetic that you would rather shift the moral obligation onto your own mother for having you. I feel sorry that you are in pain, but I feel even more sorry that you grew up with the idea that you should have been aborted and the only reason you weren't was due to your own mothers cowardice.
@c.w.8200
@c.w.8200 2 жыл бұрын
I feel the exact same way, my life has been an endless nightmare, my mother had an abortion and then had me out of religious guilt to make up for the aborted one. She didn't really want a child and was awful to me and told me every day I ruined her life. I don't understand why people who have something to live for get to die but I have to keep living. I don't want to hurt my Dad but after he's gone nothing will hold me back, then I'll do it myself.
@n-0-1
@n-0-1 2 жыл бұрын
@@c.w.8200 You need major mental health treatment. Your own guilt is making you value your life less then others. If your parents contributed to this idea that you caused only pain in their life, that is considered abuse in many countries. I recommend learning how to value your own life instead of making that decision for others.
@a.evelyn5498
@a.evelyn5498 2 жыл бұрын
At 29, I feel the same. Once my father is gone, so am I. Life is hell.
@hnybee113
@hnybee113 2 жыл бұрын
As a 5th grader when this movie came out. It was the first time I had a conversation about abortion regarding Penny. Very profound.
@Chamelionroses
@Chamelionroses 2 жыл бұрын
There has been a thing even when abortion was illegal is many that had a miscarriage in poverty were arrested for murder of a baby they were trying to have any how.
@n-0-1
@n-0-1 2 жыл бұрын
This is incorrect. Where tf do you get this information?
@pheonixrises11
@pheonixrises11 2 жыл бұрын
@@n-0-1 the outcome of a miscarriage and an abortion are identical, so it can be hard to tell. someone could very easily be accused of getting an illegal abortion when they had a miscarriage. whether a state prosecutes the carrier or providers of illegal abortions, it won’t be the same from state to state.
@n-0-1
@n-0-1 2 жыл бұрын
@@pheonixrises11 The intention is very different between abortion and miscarriage. The intention of an abortion is the destruction and murder of an unborn baby, whereas the intention after a miscarriage is to remove the baby from the womb after it has died. In states where abortion is completely illegal, it is quite easy to determine if a baby has been removed after a miscarriage or aborted. This process is done by determining if the baby was dead before or had died during the removal process. A sick and disgusting fact about the abortion process is that the baby is ripped apart while alive and sentient, limb by limb. First, the babies skull is cracked open and the abortioner sucks the babies inner cavities into a tube. Reports on studies have shown that babies feel pain during this process. Similar to the three degrees of murder, they are each defined by various terms. 1.) Intention 2.) Deliberation and Premeditation 3.) Malice Aforethought Most abortions fall into the category of second degree murder on behalf of the mother, whereas all abortions fall under the third degree on behalf of the abortioner.
@phantomkowai6621
@phantomkowai6621 2 жыл бұрын
@@n-0-1 and where r u getting your info from
@n-0-1
@n-0-1 2 жыл бұрын
@@phantomkowai6621 Depends on what info you are talking about. Many of the statements that I make are more common sense than analytical.
@sapphire_dragons6121
@sapphire_dragons6121 Жыл бұрын
I think it’s hypocritical for someone to have the right listed in the amendments only to take away rights from other people. For the people who don’t want abortion to be legal, just don’t have an abortion. It doesn’t affect you and no one is forcing you to have an abortion. I don’t understand why you should take someone else’s rights away just because it goes against YOUR morals.
@BroverKillSauce
@BroverKillSauce Жыл бұрын
I think it’s hypocritical for someone to have the right listed in the amendments only to take away rights from other people. For the people who don’t want rape to be legal, just don’t have an rape. It doesn’t affect you and no one is forcing you to rape. I don’t understand why you should take someone else’s rights away just because it goes against YOUR morals.
@sapphire_dragons6121
@sapphire_dragons6121 Жыл бұрын
I think it’s hypocritical for someone to have the right listed in the amendments only to take away rights from other people. For the people who don’t want women’s education to be legal, just don’t give them education. It doesn’t affect you and the all women in this world can make babies that you don’t care about nor consider at risk for being put under the poverty line due to financial struggles the mother might face. I don’t understand why you should take someone else’s rights away just because you don’t care about their current situation. Not everyone is born in a privileged world, not everyone will have the money to care for a child nor even the health to do so. Complications can kill the mother, that’s just another life you’re taking.
@tresvegan3633
@tresvegan3633 2 жыл бұрын
Human rights issue period! It just so happens certain groups will be affected the most
@n-0-1
@n-0-1 2 жыл бұрын
This is absolutely true. For 50 years, babies in the wombs of their mothers were not afforded the same rights as everyone else. Even though Roe v Wade was reversed, states like California still believe that babies don't deserve rights. The "certain groups" are none other than the people who have not been birthed.
@not.applicable.
@not.applicable. 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't think I'd like this channel as much after its rebranding but I was so so wrong.. this is excellent! And I'm quite pleased to see Danielle still makes an appearance.
@pbsorigins
@pbsorigins Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sticking with us ♥
@CWargh63
@CWargh63 2 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't there be an argument that any state criminalizing all abortions would be on the hook for any and all costs of every birth in that state?
@TheEmmaHouli
@TheEmmaHouli 2 жыл бұрын
It is an argument that pro choicers make. But the anti choice crowd don't see it that way. As far as anti choicers are concerned, if you don't want to get pregnant you shouldnt have sex, if you have safe sex you are still taking on the risk of pregnancy. And since you took that risk you should be willing to "pay for the consequences" and not expect the state support your bad judgement call. In the end, this is all about punishing women for having sex.
@n-0-1
@n-0-1 2 жыл бұрын
No, women make the choice to have irresponsible sex. Therefore, it is not the states problem to raise their children.
@CWargh63
@CWargh63 2 жыл бұрын
@@n-0-1 So women choose to be victims of sexual assault, incest and pregnancy that threatens the lives of both mother and child in your reality? I thought this reality was messed up...
@n-0-1
@n-0-1 2 жыл бұрын
@@CWargh63 Don't twist my words, you know for a fact that I didn't say that. Obviously, women who are victims of these crimes deserve justice and financial support by the state. Also, women who are raped are often able to sue their rapist which would help them financially during their pregnancy. Unfortunately, no amount of money can be given to fix these kinds of rare but unforgivable crimes. Although I personally believe that life begins at conception, victims of rape should still have the right to stop the progress of early pregnancy, such as with the use of PlanB. PlanB isn't necessarily considered abortion due to it only working during early reproductive processes. With that being said, abortion will never be a substitute for contraceptive and abstinence. Aborting the baby during cases of rape and incest is not justified because the baby is still a human being with intrinsic value and constitutional rights. In rare cases of Ectopic pregnancy, the baby would likely never survive during the development process and would likely kill the mother. In that case, doctors would work to both save the mother and the baby. Abortion isn't always necessary and is often misunderstood. Premature delivery shouldn't be conflated with abortion, because the baby would have never survived in the first place.
@n-0-1
@n-0-1 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheEmmaHouli It is not about punishing women. In fact, most people, even on the far right agree that only business such as Planned Parenthood that prey on women for abortions would be criminally charged. Everyone forgets about the rights of the baby, because they are too focused on preventing any inconveniences that the mother may face. Never forget; the baby has constitutional rights and intrinsic human value that shall never be undermined regardless of its age, level of consciousness, financial status, or conditions. In anti-abortion states, we protect the people who haven't yet developed a voice.
@bnthern
@bnthern 2 жыл бұрын
beautifully presented - the issues were presented with understanding of class and financial ability - go team
@n-0-1
@n-0-1 2 жыл бұрын
Ikr, poor babies don't deserve to live. GO TEAM! And remember, murder is the ONLY solution to your financial inconveniences.
@Brookecelani828
@Brookecelani828 Жыл бұрын
@@n-0-1 🍅you’re a clown
@mwoods4608
@mwoods4608 2 жыл бұрын
I was Elementary when I first watched this movie. And I never thought, gee this looks like something we should go back to. This movie birthed my liberal thoughts!!
@n-0-1
@n-0-1 2 жыл бұрын
You base your entire political ideology off of a shitty movie? I would say you are insane, but you are no different than many others.
@alias201
@alias201 2 жыл бұрын
We did this as a film study at school. Looking back now, wow, ballsy to make this a film study for 17 year olds!
@miafaske1868
@miafaske1868 2 жыл бұрын
Wow I completely forgot about this part of the movie!!! Neat insight from the writer Elenor
@n-0-1
@n-0-1 2 жыл бұрын
You really should find better media. Maybe media that isn't either outwardly biased or morally corrupt?
@juanitacanon3120
@juanitacanon3120 Жыл бұрын
@@n-0-1 lol “ you shouldn’t watch anything that defies your views of offer new perspectives “ you sound crazy
@n-0-1
@n-0-1 Жыл бұрын
@@juanitacanon3120 I don't know where you got that quote from but it definitely wasn't from here.
@dr4m4_qu88n
@dr4m4_qu88n 2 жыл бұрын
09:25 i like how she mentioned childbearing people because women aren't the only one having kids. beautiful representation
@angelika9396
@angelika9396 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, they should have reruns of this movie all over America NOW Edit: because of the abortion storyline obviously. Like, who wants that back..
@hopebabanskaya2819
@hopebabanskaya2819 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! A great video and important message i honestly forgot abortion as as a kid or teenage didn't think about it when watching it. And now of course i can not NOt think about it almost 24-7
@n-0-1
@n-0-1 2 жыл бұрын
You should think about the thousands of babies that are killed by their own mothers because of their irresponsibility and lack of accountability for their decisions. Think about how they rather murder their own children than deal with slight inconveniences.
@hopebabanskaya2819
@hopebabanskaya2819 2 жыл бұрын
@@n-0-1 and you should think about millions of men who can't put a condom on%))
@tecpaocelotl
@tecpaocelotl 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Not a fan of the film, but great highlight on the abortion issue.
@n-0-1
@n-0-1 2 жыл бұрын
Actually, they basically manipulated people into focusing on women's rights while shifting focus away from the victims of abortion, being babies.
@mayyatiaung3066
@mayyatiaung3066 Жыл бұрын
The US has slowly become Gilead....
@sahirygnobehi6448
@sahirygnobehi6448 2 жыл бұрын
I can finally watch this video. It was blocked for a whole hour.😊👍
@hueyahumana
@hueyahumana 2 жыл бұрын
No one has the right to command somebody to do something they don't want, even if it is the right thing to do. (freewill) A big part of parenting is support, love, empathy, comprehension, and discipline. Understandably, the government of The US does not want to pay for an abortion. Still, instead of being judgmental, it should be more severe on social interaction and environmental issues to improve people's mental health and self-esteem. And invest in parenting education at home and school, especially primary school; this automatically will reduce levels of abortions, instead of allowing this current toxic lifestyle promoted by all these trends in social media justified by the misuse of freedom of speech. Our surroundings influence our life, as does what we hear and see daily. Thank you for the opportunity
@n-0-1
@n-0-1 2 жыл бұрын
Wrong, actually both the federal and state governments of the US have the right to force and command others what to do, and what not to do. In fact, all states have laws that prohibit murder. It just so happens that the babies who are the only victims of abortion, since they are murdered. Women do not, nor have they ever had the right to choose what to do with another persons body, including the body that is within their womb.
@Mercel29
@Mercel29 2 жыл бұрын
@@n-0-1 then lets get rid of guns since the government can say what to do, lets get rid of the second amendment
@n-0-1
@n-0-1 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mercel29 Whatever you just said was incoherent. Im not sure what you said has to do with the murder of children.
@Ruby-wn3cl
@Ruby-wn3cl 2 жыл бұрын
“It’s not just women it’s childbearing people” …😐
@phuck8627
@phuck8627 2 жыл бұрын
you realize 8 year olds can sometimes get pregnant right? it's not just women, it's also literal children
@SweetCammieEyes1
@SweetCammieEyes1 2 жыл бұрын
That statement is all inclusive. Girls, trans men, and non binary people are child bearing people
@Ruby-wn3cl
@Ruby-wn3cl 2 жыл бұрын
@@SweetCammieEyes1 …ok buddy
@missmiss6516
@missmiss6516 2 жыл бұрын
Love With A Proper Stranger deals with the issue of illegal abortions too.
@vickygraham2444
@vickygraham2444 Жыл бұрын
"The unborn" are a convenient group of people to advocate for. They never make demands of you; they are morally uncomplicated, unlike orphans, they don't need money, education, or childcare; they allow you to feel good about yourself without any work at creating or maintaining relationships; and when they are born, you can forget about them, because they cease to be unborn. It's almost as if, by being born, they have died to you. You can love the unborn and advocate for them without substantially challenging your own wealth, power, or privilege, without re-imagining social structures, apologizing, or making reparations to anyone. They are, in short, the perfect people to love if you want to claim you love Jesus but actually dislike people who breathe.
@soapy27
@soapy27 2 жыл бұрын
Great, timely video. Thank you for making this.
@n-0-1
@n-0-1 2 жыл бұрын
This video wasn't "timely,." They strategically put this video out to shift peoples focus away from the true victims of abortion.
@Veeravaara
@Veeravaara 2 жыл бұрын
@@n-0-1 true victims a.k.a. 4 cells that don't experience pain nor have a want to live or even a pursuit for happiness
@n-0-1
@n-0-1 2 жыл бұрын
@@Veeravaara ok, how many cells does a human need before it becomes a human? Do all humans need to be sentient to be alive? What about people who are born without the sensation of touch? Are they not human? What about people who are short and naturally have less cells than someone taller? Are they unworthy of life? Cells that are generating by the thousands every day Indicate a desire for life.
@Veeravaara
@Veeravaara 2 жыл бұрын
@@n-0-1 my personal belief is that they become a human when they are able to survive outside of the womb. And no, cells doing what they are programmed to do, multiplying, doesn't indicate anything. A daisy doesn't have a desire to live, much less an early stage fetus. Even the animals you pay to be killed have more of a desire to live and be happy. By your metric a sperm cell has the desire to live and be happy
@n-0-1
@n-0-1 2 жыл бұрын
@@Veeravaara "my personal belief is that they become a human when they are able to survive outside of the womb." - Most reputable scientists agree that "life begins when the egg is fertilized by the sperm." Religious people call this conception. Are people who are disabled, in a coma, or paralyzed not human or unworthy of life because they can't survive on their own? Do they not deserve rights? "And no, cells doing what they are programmed to do, multiplying, doesn't indicate anything." - What are the indications of a desire or necessity for life then? Should we wait until the baby is born and can talk so we can ask it if it wants to live before we abort it? "A daisy doesn't have a desire to live, much less an early stage fetus." - Daisies reproduce at an incredibly fast rate, a primary indicator of a desire for life. Also, Daisies cannot be compared to human life because human life has intrinsic value. In fact, we don't charge Daisy killers with murder. "Even the animals you pay to be killed have more of a desire to live and be happy." - This depends on what animal you are talking about and why it was killed, or the intent. The intention to abort a baby is to kill it before it has a chance to inconvenience the mother, whereas the intention to kill a cow is to sustain human life. We as humans value human life more than other animal species and plants, which is a major reason why the human race is so strong. "By your metric a sperm cell has the desire to live and be happy" - "Sperm cells cannot divide." Also, sperm cells have a single purpose, which is to inject genetic material into the unfertilized egg. Sperm cells only have a single purpose, and their value is no where near comparable to the intrinsic value of an overall human life. When a man kills his sperm with spermicide, it isn't considered murder.
@adiksaff
@adiksaff 2 жыл бұрын
I have seen this movie only once, but because of PBS highlighting this cool factoid, I think I'll watch it at least 10 more times.
@salmaislam3415
@salmaislam3415 2 жыл бұрын
Here is Indian movie named Notebook (2006) with same concept
@emilycreamer1307
@emilycreamer1307 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, I haven't seen Dirty Dancing since I was a child, and I had no idea the plot was surrounding abortion.
@dotdotdotdotdotdotdottod
@dotdotdotdotdotdotdottod 2 жыл бұрын
the one thing ill say is that is atrosious is the fact the this 80s film is set in the 60s but looks like its from the mid 80s
@RavenFilms
@RavenFilms 2 жыл бұрын
I was born in 1984 so o probably should have seen this movie by now, but it’s never been my type of movie in a whole lot of way, but you better believe I’m giving it a watch now. I’m interested.
@megamanx466
@megamanx466 2 жыл бұрын
I probably would've never watched it if not for girlfriends. 😅
@RavenFilms
@RavenFilms 2 жыл бұрын
@@JenSell1626 lol 😆
@Leftatalbuquerque
@Leftatalbuquerque 2 жыл бұрын
Now let's look at Grease.
@wendyrock4260
@wendyrock4260 2 жыл бұрын
Well done
@diannaclark4252
@diannaclark4252 2 жыл бұрын
Well, DUH!! If you watched the film, a whole lot of it was the reasons why abortion should be legal. DUUUHHMMIES!!!!
@mwoods4608
@mwoods4608 2 жыл бұрын
the only issue was this movie and others like it, made me want the "bad boy" type
@n-0-1
@n-0-1 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that bad boy type who will have sex with you and then expect that you murder your own child.
@morganstarchild5359
@morganstarchild5359 Жыл бұрын
But he really wasn't the bad boy, imo he's just surviving
@jruiz2694
@jruiz2694 2 жыл бұрын
Loved this
@maggpiprime954
@maggpiprime954 2 жыл бұрын
I think I would've been a lot more interested in watching this movie when it came out if my friends had understood its context. "Trust me, you'll love it! Just go see it!" is not a compelling recommendation, imo. Not then, not now. I'm glad Canada is stepping up to help, but I know it's not nearly enough.
@n-0-1
@n-0-1 2 жыл бұрын
Canada? You mean the country that doesn't allow you to defend yourself? Or the country that undermines peoples fundamental right to speak freely without legal consequence? Oh yeah, you mean the Canada that doesn't have constitutional protections that save babies from the women to want to kill them?
@IchiHishi
@IchiHishi 2 жыл бұрын
Reupload?
@aidaimcshmidai
@aidaimcshmidai 2 жыл бұрын
I’m sad that they did not include AAPI women in the statistic. :( They also did not include Trans people, who will also be be affected by the overturning of Roe v. Wade
@kguerr197
@kguerr197 Жыл бұрын
Trans-radicals are making their cause toxic to everyone else because they want to force their ideology onto everyone they can affect. They want to change the language and how people interact with them as if they are little babies with fragile egos that need to be catered to. Roe vs Wade is a woman-centric issue and that needs to be addressed first before turning to those who only identify as a woman but not biologically. Sorry, women needs to take care of their own issues first. We're not going to cave for the trans-movement at this time when our very own rights are threatened.
@jpe1
@jpe1 2 жыл бұрын
I’m curious why this was public, then made private (apparently mere moments before I tried to watch) but at least it’s public again. I’m assuming it’s be edited in some way…
@Caterfree10
@Caterfree10 2 жыл бұрын
The description gives the reason
@jpe1
@jpe1 2 жыл бұрын
@@Caterfree10 thank you. A simple explanation that makes sense 😉 I see the explanation is now a pinned comment so others will see it as well (no insult intended, but who reads the text descriptions of videos?)
@Caterfree10
@Caterfree10 2 жыл бұрын
@@jpe1 I do on occasion. It’s always good to check there for reupload info at the very least (incidentally, my most common use of it lol)
@indrinita
@indrinita 2 жыл бұрын
@@jpe1 I very often do, particularly for educational videos
@sl57492
@sl57492 Жыл бұрын
Forced birth advocates donate their organs to people dye ing on waitlists challenge
@desireehernandez2159
@desireehernandez2159 Жыл бұрын
It's a movie . It's a movie . Every film and tv show has a rating either it be rated r or pg13 or pg or g
@maheshgavaskar8093
@maheshgavaskar8093 2 жыл бұрын
The geographical divide b/w pro and anti-abortionists clearly shows that the US is split right in the middle. Tenacity of religious beliefs in south and central US also reflects present-day political divide b/w republicans and democrats...
@n-0-1
@n-0-1 2 жыл бұрын
Not entirely, there isn't a significant variance of beliefs between states. Also, this isn't a issue stemming from religion. In fact, many people who are not religious agree that a baby in the womb of a mother deserves individual rights, and therefore is not considered apart of the mothers body. This means that abortion is murder and always was murder.
@pheonixrises11
@pheonixrises11 2 жыл бұрын
@@n-0-1 sure, call it murder, but you can’t consider yourself a good person for outlawing it altogether. a person can think abortion is morally bad and still not advocate for it becoming illegal, and here’s why: while the minority, there will always be cases of people whose lives are endangered by a pregnancy, and making abortion illegal will result in deaths. also, making abortion doesn’t address *why* they happen. if we don’t attack the source, how can we say we’re solving the problem? making abortions illegal will only increase illegal and unsafe abortions. we need to educate people and make contraceptives more accessible. there is a lot of misconceptions about how pregnancy happens that are still floating around, there are schools that think telling horny teens “abstinence only” is enough(even though many will be more influenced by their personal beliefs and peer pressure, rather than a teacher as to whether they will choose to have sex), rather than explaining pregnancy and how to use contraceptives properly. how can we say people need to hold responsibility for their own actions when our education system is as garbage as it is? not only that, but can you say you are good if you tell someone with an issue that it is their problem to deal with and not offer any help? many people affected by abortions becoming illegal will be poor. give more money and support(daycares, baby products, etc) and that will also reduce abortion. rich people will continue to have abortions!!! they may say that they’re anti-abortion, but they only say that to be viewed positively by certain groups of people. they don’t care about morality, they kick the poor while they’re down and want you to vote in their favor. CONCLUSION(for if you want to skip the paragraphs above): I think it is drastic an unsympathetic to make abortions illegal with the state of the country as it is now. healthcare is abysmal, as well as the education system. If you want to help people and unborn babies, you have to offer help, rather than seeking to punish those you deem as bad. maybe there’s a future for countrywide banning of abortion, but it is too soon and it will be too hurtful to do so now.
@nnuu7618
@nnuu7618 2 жыл бұрын
It not only stems from religious beliefs but also as a way to punish and oppress people with reproductive systems by forcing them to carry and give birth. Democrats and Republicans actually have more in common, both are the same except democrats like to pretend they're progressive whilst actively not doing anything against laws that oppress and harm minorities groups.
@nnuu7618
@nnuu7618 2 жыл бұрын
@@n-0-1 the baby is very much part of the mother's body as it lives off her and cannot sustain itself outside of her.
@n-0-1
@n-0-1 2 жыл бұрын
@@nnuu7618 It is physically attached to her but not apart if her body. Your argument is flawed because that baby is still human and has rights regardless of it is attached to the mother.
@DiamondsRexpensive
@DiamondsRexpensive Жыл бұрын
0:03 🔶
@samwill7259
@samwill7259 2 жыл бұрын
Well...Dirty Dancing sounds like a metaphor for the thing that could lead to the need for...yea, yknow.
@zuburgirl
@zuburgirl 2 жыл бұрын
What do you mean "what"?
@Happy_HIbiscus
@Happy_HIbiscus 2 ай бұрын
😥😥😥😥
@angelinimartini
@angelinimartini 2 жыл бұрын
I think at some point, everyone who pro choice needs to come together and have an agreement on what that means. And then we have to determine, what is the most likely to pass into law. I am pro choice but to a certain extent. I believe an abortion is fine in the first trimester, and thereafter only fine in cases of rape, incest, and life endangerment. I can get a lot of conservatives to agree with me up to that point as well. But looking at late term abortions for whoever, that I think gets more complicated to pass across the board. We could spend a lot more money funding with volunteer dollars, woman who can’t afford an abortion, as well as contraceptive care/family planning, if we stopped having to fund a whole bunch of fighting against the other side.
@maisie9705
@maisie9705 2 жыл бұрын
Late term abortions only really happen for medical reasons, wherein the foetus is unlikely to survive or will cause harm to the birth parent. But I see what you’re saying! Might just be easier to try to compromise so at least we get somewhere
@erich6336
@erich6336 Жыл бұрын
I feel this isn’t black and white as much as a socioeconomic thing. The more one group of people get out poverty the sooner we can stop obsessing about color.
@Terra2000Z
@Terra2000Z 2 жыл бұрын
What happened 😕 to this video!?
@Caterfree10
@Caterfree10 2 жыл бұрын
The description explains what happened
@practyze4191
@practyze4191 Жыл бұрын
6:52 8:48
@MrFrenchyge
@MrFrenchyge 4 ай бұрын
Pro-choice here, but looking at the graph abortion deaths were already plummeting before the 2 abortion rights milestone dates occurred.
@3katfox
@3katfox 2 жыл бұрын
My grandma flew from Detroit to New York and back on the same day to get a safe abortion in the 60s. If she hadn't shed have been having haler drunk husbands baby, and she would've been stuck with him forever
@eliskaprochy4679
@eliskaprochy4679 2 жыл бұрын
It might seem unimportant, but I appreciate leaving out the little Tv’s face - the winking used to be so annoying (from my perspective) that I wanted to stop watching this series
@robertortiz-wilson1588
@robertortiz-wilson1588 Жыл бұрын
No.
@ioslugs
@ioslugs 2 жыл бұрын
!
@meander112
@meander112 2 жыл бұрын
Engagement for the engagement god!
@alexmartinez9097
@alexmartinez9097 2 жыл бұрын
I miss the origin of everything, I don't like this new format
@SalsadArte
@SalsadArte Жыл бұрын
Abortion needs to be legal and available. Do we want it to happen less? Yes, of course: then let’s work on free contraception, early sexual education in school, let’s fight violence on women and let’s support families in need and single women who may want to keep the child.
@EduardoM
@EduardoM 2 жыл бұрын
I love this ❤️❤️
@goldenvulture6818
@goldenvulture6818 Жыл бұрын
Most supporters of abortion stop supporting it at third trimester abortion. It makes them no different than their pro-life opponents.
@melanie-annethibeau2087
@melanie-annethibeau2087 Жыл бұрын
I am very disappointed in the comment that included "this is only white women's stories". It wasn't needed and actually feels forced. EVERY piece of fictional media does not need to represent EVERY race on this planet. I've never watched an all black cast movie and thought, "You know what the problem is, it's only black people's stories". Stop forcing, it's cringe.
@BroverKillSauce
@BroverKillSauce Жыл бұрын
Oh no! Women get harmed while trying to butcher their children for being a minor inconvenience by being alive!
@allengalbreath5062
@allengalbreath5062 2 жыл бұрын
Why she got to dance and had to go get her father?
@nrjohnsocam
@nrjohnsocam 2 жыл бұрын
0:10 before the face reveal I thought Wendy Williams was talking 😁
@cassie4965
@cassie4965 2 жыл бұрын
Gotta love how the cis producers of this thought it was a cute light hearted point at the end to include trans people 😂 no problem with what Danielle said just how producers framed it, conveniently let us forget this isn't just a cis women's issue the entire time then we're like oh yeah and trans ppl *cute lil boop*
@shylady8711
@shylady8711 2 жыл бұрын
This is kind of a stretch for its connection to abortion. There are lots of other films like this, not just dirty dancing. Other films played a part in showing this issue too. And they keep talking about pre-Roe. pre-Roe. pre-Roe. What about pre-abortion period? There was also a time before abortion was a thing. And it precedes the Roe vs Wade issue. Maybe it's time that we stop acting so casual about intimate activities between people. Take responsibility about possibilities of creating a life through one's actions.
@alexmartinez9097
@alexmartinez9097 2 жыл бұрын
🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
@trenae77
@trenae77 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who is staunchly Pro-Life, I still believe abortion is not something that can be effectively legislated. There are too many nuances to consider: was effective birth control available; did the woman have any allergies or medications she had to take that made the contraceptive less effective or negate her ability to use it in the first place; did the man even consider HIS part and take precautions on his end,or leave matters completely up to the woman? And these are just the tip of the ice berg. What happens if the pregnancy becomes untenable? Either the child is dead or dying in the womb, or the woman’s health is steadily declining due to the pregnancy? What if nature tragically results in a miscarriage that does not completely expel the fetus? While ending a life of no other reason than the desire not to continue the pregnancy is not an outcome I would want, rendering a procedure illegal that in so many cases would prove life-preserving is unacceptable. What we all need to remind ourselves is this; overturning Roe V. Wade does NOT equate the federal government outlawing abortion, but rather takes the decision out of the Federal courts and releases the decision to the individual states. Petition you local governments and work up the chain to state senators and Governors. Rather than pushing women into a dangerous corner, consider other outlets such as counseling and accessibility to a wide array of contraceptives. Encourage the male population to step up and take their part. If a young woman finds herself pregnant and chooses not to terminate, have community resources that will offer support without stigmatizing, and open avenues for adoption that are beneficial to all involved. Life in and of itself is precious, and I will forever strive to encourage my friends considering abortion to think and reflect seriously on why they want to terminate; but at the end of the day the choice is theirs. They will still be my friend, and if they face complications - be it emotional or physical - from the procedure, I can wholeheartedly assure them open arms and a heart that holds no judgment.
@annieboookhall
@annieboookhall 2 жыл бұрын
This is why we need to make a more equitable society overall - aid to the poor, parental work leave, and access to education/vocational training. Abortion is not the answer to these issues. I will not be responding to comments
@megamanx466
@megamanx466 2 жыл бұрын
Technically, more post birth services to compensate women for essentially being forced to take care of a baby that wasn't planned(about 50% of the U.S.) would help balance out the injustice of overturning R v. W. HOWEVER, that's not likely to happen... so it'll continue to be a great injustice! P.s. your response isn't needed. My comment is nearly rhetorical anyway. 😏
@Chamelionroses
@Chamelionroses 2 жыл бұрын
Kinda reminds me of the George Carlin joke on Nimby.
@Chamelionroses
@Chamelionroses 2 жыл бұрын
@@megamanx466 true
@rosieg6989
@rosieg6989 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, so pro-lifers saying they care about babies should make laws that cover childbirth, family leave, early pediatric care, and funding for stuff like daycares, there should also be more funding for schools. Instead they want to force people to carry babies they don't want to term (or until it kills the carrier) and then don't care what happens after that. Even in a world were the government helps pregnant people and helps the baby through its first few years at life, some abortions would still be needed, such as for if someone is raped, if its discovered the baby is missing vital organs and will die the moment its born, for people who can get pregnant but can't safely bring a pregnancy to term, or if the pregnant person gets sick but is not allowed to start treatment while pregnant.
@JeantheSecond
@JeantheSecond 2 жыл бұрын
Too bad the people who are banning abortions are also opposed to all those things. Abortion is a perfectly good solution to many problems: including a rape pregnancy, an ectopic pregnancy, people who need cancer treatment, people who can’t carry a pregnancy to term safely, people who have miscarried but not delivered the miscarry fetus, and people who don’t want to be pregnant at that time in their lives.
@katiejon17
@katiejon17 Жыл бұрын
PBS: Propaganda Broadcast Station
@tommieaurelien9898
@tommieaurelien9898 2 жыл бұрын
Okay I get it all this abortion in the movie but the Dirty Dancing appropriated salsa in the movie it’s a question of cultural appropriation did Dirty Dancing cultural appropriate Latin American tradition dance move?! I remember watching this movie as a child since I was a kid with my mother of course we watch the movie but I never understood the character was having an abortion I know there is a reason why women want to have abortions because they don’t feel ready to have a responsibility to be a mother Dirty Dancing The majority of casting members due to The reference in the movieIt’s majority cast was White all the casting for White that we’re dancing salsa and each dance moves from another culture and you never saw people in other races practising these dances that comes from another culture like salsa or other dance moves I cannot remember there were other dance but I think it was on the southside they were doing in Dirty Dancing why wasn’t there any Latino cast and the abortion in the movie did it concern only a white woman’s problem because the majority of the cast were white?!
@adw5111
@adw5111 2 жыл бұрын
As a Latina I can say with confidence that I and all my Latin friends and family have never thought to be insulted by non Latin people dancing salsa. There is a difference between appropriating and appreciating. Most people view salsa as a fun and sexy dance, so if they want to enjoy it but aren't Latin, what's the problem? It's not like they're bashing on salsa and saying it's a stupid dance from a stupid culture. Just be glad that most Latinos don't get offended by "appropriation" of our culture, because then we could argue that avocados and chocolate should belong and be eaten only by us since they originated in Mexico.
@tommieaurelien9898
@tommieaurelien9898 2 жыл бұрын
@@adw5111Okay if you say if you see that they are appreciating your culture So people that have Latin America origin in the culture for you watching this movie it’s appreciating and what about the inclusion it doesn’t matter to you?! For example I have an AfricanOrigin and if someone that is not from my Heritage that practice the dance move from my background I probably will feel offended if they don’t include people from my origin and my rootsSometimes you have people when they will use someone’s culture to make it all about them this is why it’s important to acknowledge peoples culture They can appreciate they just need to acknowledgeAnd they need to give some credit to peoples culture
@kareytanner
@kareytanner 2 жыл бұрын
You didn't see people from other races learning these dances in Dirty Dancing because it is a period piece set in the Catskills in the sixties. Resorts like the one in the film really existed, and they basically catered to rich white people. The class divide between the guests and the staff is the main thrust of the story. Just because Penny is white doesn't mean abortion has only ever been a problem for white women- if that's the message you got from this film I suggest you watch it again, more carefully this time.
@tommieaurelien9898
@tommieaurelien9898 2 жыл бұрын
@@kareytanner Oh okay I don’t need to watch the movie now I rememberIn the movie Dirty Dancing baby and Jonny they came from two different world separate apart because of the difference baby she came from wealth so she is privilege and Jonny he came from a non-wealthy privilege life so he was the poorest White guy since she fell in love with himShe didn’t care what he was if he wasn’t in her level but the problem is I remember I just saw two black couples dancing but they were not the main character in the movie it was just some scene with two black couples dancing I don’t know if they were a couple but there wasn’t enough explanation in the Dirty Dancing movie I couldn’t say that the movie Did not want to have any inclusion to other races of people it was just the story of the movie no one could imagine a baby had to fall in love with someone that came from Latin America who was Hispanic that comes from Argentina or from Brazil or Puerto Rico whatever country I love interest would’ve been if it wasn’t White or it could be that I love interest would have been someone that has Latin American roots That has Latino origin
@tommieaurelien9898
@tommieaurelien9898 2 жыл бұрын
@@kareytanner and I also want to say that the movie just ended so quick I didn’t feel like there was enough storyline to know everything about the characters they just fall in love Jonny just taught her Jonny was just the dance teacher in the beginning and they fell in love and he taught her how to the Dances a lot of chemistry That was at the end of the movie they lived happily ever after just like a fairytale similar OG movie to Greece lightning
@seancssu
@seancssu 2 жыл бұрын
Deleting comments? Tisk tisk
@davidmiranda4745
@davidmiranda4745 2 жыл бұрын
Its a reupload smartie
@Chamelionroses
@Chamelionroses 2 жыл бұрын
Likely youtube itself seeing as spam or during a reupload. KZfaq tos many don't read it. Capitalism and laws many are mot educated or really care to be. Sovereign citizens are " just traveling" tsk tsk.
@seancssu
@seancssu 2 жыл бұрын
@@Chamelionroses comment was after the reupload, quite a few people supported protecting babies in the womb
@kmwilkerson04
@kmwilkerson04 2 жыл бұрын
What are the statistics on how many people get abortions based on rape vs. living on a “instant gratification” moment?
@Chamelionroses
@Chamelionroses 2 жыл бұрын
Talking on rape... there is still legalized forced (consent of age) child marriage. It is a state to state thing rather than federal law on such. There is some odd laws on the books over contraceptives being illegal at one point or ignored to other laws too. Guess we will have to see what happens in the democratic republic of the US next.
@Chamelionroses
@Chamelionroses 2 жыл бұрын
Bad Joke: ask the catholic church or Warren Jeffs...?
@anniikka
@anniikka 2 жыл бұрын
“Instant gratification” moment? The fact that you believe you have the right to judge the "quality" of any circumstance leading to pregnancy tells me a lot more about you than about anyone else. OddZero already discussed forced marriage and obstacles to accessing contraceptives (but forgot to mention that beside localized regulation-based obstacles, there is a significant poverty barrier there as well, related both to access and education). 81 percent of American women reported experiencing sexual assault in their lifetime. Every two out of three rapes go unreported (in the case of sexual assault on children, only 12 - read that again - 12 percent is reported), which means that as a reason for abortion sexual assault is horrifically under-reported. Please keep in mind that even the numbers I quoted are based on people who were willing to admit to being assaulted; not everyone is. There is also the factor that culturally, our society is messed up enough to have convinced women (and men and everyone else) that some forms of rape are actually not rape, such as marital rape, passed-out rape, rape when clear "no" was not stated, rape without a physical fight, rape without physical violence, etc. The number you're looking for is insignificant because it's inaccurate. Grossly. As for that incessant bible-thumping rape vs you play - you pay nonsense, get a grip. It's not your place to judge. Ever. Your judgement can only apply to you because not everyone else has to share your values. We don't have an obligation to live our lives the way you'd like us to. If you need guidance on that, I advise you to consult the bible. It has some things to say on the topic of tolerance and acceptance, unless you're an old testament hate-monger. Moreover, it's naive to believe that anyone, and I do mean anyone, has repeated "instant gratification moments" that lead to pregnancy and just have an abortion because it's so easy. It's not. It's a taxing decision that's undertaken by people who see it as the best solution in their given situation. It's hard to access for a large number of people, it's costly (in terms of actual price, travel, time off, etc.), it's stigmatized by people who think it's a "lifestyle choice", and it takes a psychological toll. Nonetheless, 5 years after, 95 percent of people who had an abortion say it was the right choice for them - that should tell you that's it's a decision not taken easily or thoughtlessly. As someone who's currently watching women dying needlessly in a neighboring state that introduced such ridiculous abortion laws doctors don't even perform medically-indicated abortions where the fetuses are dead or dying because they fear being sent to prison, I have little tolerance for your suggestion that abortion can ever be split into those resulting from rape vs. those caused by “instant gratification” moments. As if the latter was even a thing, and if it were - as if the two were the only possible reasons for needing an abortion. And it's always a need. It's good you're not too far gone to understand that rape victims/survivors should not be forced into a resulting pregnancy but it also means you're woefully under-informed or a well-intentioned bigot. Either one needs fixing.
@kmwilkerson04
@kmwilkerson04 2 жыл бұрын
@@anniikka there will always be people that have more knowledge or education on certain subjects than I do. I’m ok with that. It is why I asked the question about rape statistics (because that is how you get a conversation started). What I’m not ok with is being called names or put down because you don’t agree or are triggered by something that I said. As to your information listed, I don’t disagree that many things are not reported and you do make a good point about some laws being in place (or lack of law) because I was born and raised in a state where law of consent is 18, and I don’t know more than 2 people over thousands that I have encountered throughout my decades on this earth to have abided by that law. On the flip side, I have to question (with a lot of empathy and patience) who is telling the truth nowadays. That is the worst thing to be wrong about and yet when money gets involved; I have seen people change who they are, what the believe, and what they say to get what they want. This is not an easy topic but one that should be discussed. I would love to keep communicating as long as you can refrain from the unnecessary name calling that doesn’t suit my character. Thanks
@anniikka
@anniikka 2 жыл бұрын
@@kmwilkerson04 I understand your point but, in my decades of existence, I have encountered way too many people of gentle tone and demeanor with the same attitude of judgement, especially when it comes to trusting women, and I developed very low tolerance as a result. And I do admit I did call you out in less than respectful terms. On the point of whose accounts are or are not truthful, I have to disagree. There is no benefit to reporting assault, to police or anyone else. In litigation, victims/survivors are seldom successful, both in criminal and civil court, and the idea of financial benefit is a mirage. It's like saying cancer just disappears every time because your ______ (insert person) was diagnosed with cancer and it just disappeared on its own. Does it happen? Yes. Is it true for the majority of victims/survivors? Sigh. In reporting assault, men subjected to it usually report even less frequently than women, yet their veracity does not get questioned as often (though their masculinity does, go figure). The simple truth of the matter is that we, as civilians, have no way of establishing whether anyone is or is not lying and we shouldn't be trying to because it's simply not possible. Generally, the only course of action is waiting for a verdict of the justice system, but I've discussed how well that works. That is why victims of more prominent offenders turn to the court of public opinion, and sometimes get shut up by being paid off without any admission of guilt by the offender. They accept not because they're greedy but because it's the only form of justice they will ever get. If you are truly curious and have been sheltered enough not to be exposed to just how ugly this all gets, Kate Harding's Asking for It is a good starting point. If you can stomach it. (All the usual ebook retailers carry it; a bunch of hardback/paperback sellers do as well.) www.goodreads.com/book/show/17836520-asking-for-it?ac=1&from_search=true&qid=ToTUS0L5kq&rank=2#
@jpdevito
@jpdevito 2 жыл бұрын
You are not losing a right. The apparent right to life of unborn children is now open to plebicite and state legislation.
@melomelody9796
@melomelody9796 2 жыл бұрын
I was talking with a friend who is pro- abortion and she is vegetarian, she was mad at me for eating so much eggs because it was a living being who was cut the opportunity of existing and how it was like a murder. So I asked her " what about fetus tho? They are fertilized eggs making them more living being than these eggs" she said " it's not the same" and went on a rant to explain to be how it's not the same. We just don't valorize life enough
@radurte
@radurte 2 жыл бұрын
So I don't know about your friend, but vegetarians usually eat eggs just fine. Vegans never do. Now, the reason why vegans don't eat eggs is not because the eggs would become cute little baby chicken. Commercially sold eggs aren't even fertilized. It's because of the way egg-laying hens in commercial farms are raised and kept as egg machines without being properly cared for. So when you think about it, it makes total sense to be against eating eggs as well as being pro-choice; it all comes down to the hens as well as the pregnant women having autonomy over their own lives and bodies.
@melomelody9796
@melomelody9796 2 жыл бұрын
@@radurte I don't understand vegan and vegetarian I'm just saying what my friend said, but I'm lost with your comment, how is eggs being kept in bad condition have to do with being pro- abortion, because let's be real everyone is pro-choice the word is misleading to make pro-life look like dictators, it's about pro-life vs pro-abortion in the end of the day everyone does what they want legally or illegally. But can you explain the correlation between lack of good conditionnement of chicken fetus and the fact that human fetus should not bee seen as living being. I'm genuinely curious
@jeanneann3545
@jeanneann3545 Жыл бұрын
im ex vegan and thats ridiculous, most vegans refused to eat eggs because the inhumane condition the chickens keep in. And abortion is the right way, if you want a child that much, adopt.
@n-0-1
@n-0-1 2 жыл бұрын
When people say, "I cant believe women are actually losing their right to abortion," what they are actually saying is, "I can't believe that we actually have to use contraceptive."
@alexandrasattele7429
@alexandrasattele7429 2 жыл бұрын
Because first some rapist will ask the woman before raping her if she takes the anti-baby-pill regulary. And second because all contraceptives come with a Statistik, how likely they are to fail.
@nnuu7618
@nnuu7618 2 жыл бұрын
Uses of contraceptives aren't always 100% guaranteed to prevent pregnancies.
@rosieg6989
@rosieg6989 2 жыл бұрын
Contraceptives aren't 100% effective so even people on the pill and using condoms get pregnant, nor do people use contraceptives when they are being raped. Also some people who originally planned on getting pregnant sometimes still need abortions such as for if its discovered the baby is missing vital organs and will die the moment its born, for people who can get pregnant but can't safely bring a pregnancy to term, if their financial or housing situation has changed, or if the pregnant person gets sick but is not allowed to start treatment while pregnant.
@n-0-1
@n-0-1 2 жыл бұрын
@@nnuu7618 When multiple forms of contraceptive are used it is almost impossible to have a child. You are delusional. Its sad you how think the only solution to an unwanted pregnancy is murder.
@zwischenburkaundbikini2418
@zwischenburkaundbikini2418 2 жыл бұрын
@@nnuu7618 most unplaned pregnancy exist because of lack of cpntraception or an incorrect usage though.
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