Thank you Charles 😊👍

Thank you buddy 😊👍👍

Thank you DS. Much appreciated 😊👍

Thank you Paul. Very kind and much appreciated 😊👍👍

Mine too! The Britsh Audiophile is going to give the US reviewers a run for their money!...:-)

@@marcfoss7687 thank you Marc. Great to have your support 😊👍👍

Thank you Marc. Very much appreciated 😊👍

Most welcome. Thank you for watching and you kind words of support Rich 😊👍

I was in mid flow so decided to keep it in 😂

There's nothing wrong with a bit of digression - just ask Paul McGowan!

@@osliverpool Too TRUE LOL !

Thank you Mike. Much appreciated 😊👍

Thank you Jeremy 😊👍

@Joe Turner Thanks Joe. I keep some salt handy in view of Paul's frequent and self-confessed "shameless plug".

Thank you Alan. My experiences match yours 😊👍

The spatial information is in the 20hz to 60hz frequency band.

There are harmonics in musical instruments. The note might be 65 hz but it could have a harmonic at 32 hz.

That is great. Always a pleasure to hear from you 😊👍

I agree with the total plonker. Two RELs gets you closer to full range with no boomy b.s.. I put mine with all manner of budget book shelves and couldn't go without them now

Same here, two Rel Quakes on my bedroom, one Rel Storm III in the living room. I recap the subs with Mundorf caps, and dealed with the bad Rel Acoustics decision on using the R8 resistor with just 12k-1W by changing it to the right values, 15k-3W Mills resistor (Storm III). That is it weakest point, along with R6 resistor and the four less thermic capable transistors, changed them as well. Huge sound quality improvement...from Daweoo caps to Mundorf MLytic.

Thank you kjbiz 😊👍

Thank you Jose 😊👍

Thank you buddy 😊👍

Thank you Steve 😊👍

Thank you for watching and sharing your experiences Clyde 😊👍

You are most welcome Atri. Thank you for watching 👍😊👍

Thank you Trevor 😊👍

Thank you Sandeep. Hopefully, this video may peak the interest of some audiophiles who haven’t not tried subs as yet 😊👍

@@abritishaudiophile7314 yes, absolutely. Subwoofer set up is an art though. I hope you will talk on the subject sometime in future. It will help many many new audiophiles. I am absolutely certain that your style of explaining the topic with enough information and mixing it up with right amount of technical stuff will help them enormously.

@@san01yt thanks Sandeep. I may include it in a subwoofer review 😊👍

Thank you. I will probably do that in a future episode 😊👍

@@abritishaudiophile7314 Yes i would love to hear your take on that too! Have no subwoofer yet but really looking to add one to my system.

@@davidbujanowski8339 thank you David 😊👍

Thank you Rob 😊👍

Great anecdote John. Thank you for sharing. I agree no sub is much better than a poorly setup one. It is nice you have two audiophiles in the family 😊👍

Thank you for watching and sharing your experiences Richard 😊👍

Thank you Benjamin 😊👍

Very well said and articulately described. Thank you Peter 😊👍

Thank you Peter 😊👍

Cool 👍

Thank you. Much appreciated 😊👍

Thank you WK 😊👍

Thank you Andrew 😊👍

That is something I should do at some point 😊

Thank you for watching and your support Jeff 😊👍

Thank Andre. Well spotted 😊👍

@@abritishaudiophile7314 Cheers from Canada.

Thank you for watching and sharing your experiences Paul 😊👍

Agree. I have matching ASW600s stereo subs paired with my N805s. Wonderful improvement in soundstage & foundation.

@@playbackamusicloversjourne8620 cool 😎

Thank you for watching and sharing your experiences 😊👍

Thank you 👍

Well said Nathan 😊👍

Thank you James. Great to learn about your experiences. Please let me know how you get on with the second sub when you get one 😊👍

I would love to be able to accommodate two too 😉👍

@M S SVS make some good subs 😊

Just got the SVS 3000 micro to mate with my Totem Forests. Have not had a chance to optimize it, but out of the box I like what I’m hearing!

@@mauricecuffee7220 thank you for watching and sharing 😊👍

I find by having dual subs the integration being a whole lot smoother/easier, it's probably because i have two Rel 8" down-firing T5is positioned behind the couch, which are 6"-8" away from the corners and having them both connected to each individual stereo speaker binding posts (high level input) The biggest compliment I get is when a guest/friend ask.... "how come you get such a huge sound from at such a small speaker" 😁

Thank you for watching and sharing your experiences Mark. Much appreciated 😊👍

Some interesting stuff coming up 😉👍

@@abritishaudiophile7314 ti's a willsenton valve amp..... Some good reviews on it.. Enjoy Tarun, I've à couple of valve monoblocs 805As...only 40 watts... But brilliant.... Keep up the good work.. I've got a pair of home made speakers... Happy enough with them, could send you a photo if that's poss...

@@michaelmonaghan8026 thanks Michael. I am currently running listening tests on the Willsenton R8. I bet those 300B monos are something 😊👍

Thank you Hugo. We al, have to deal with these bass problems 😉👍

Thank you Archie. Great to learn about your experiences 😊👍

Thank you for watching Gary. Great to hear about your experiences 😊👍

Thank you Jim. I appreciate you watching and sharing your experiences 😊👍

Thank you Carlito. I am envious of your 2.2 setup. The 2nd sub would certainly help even out the bass across my room 😊👍

@@abritishaudiophile7314 well I'd love to hear that classic rel strata, tho my LRS are purported to work better with smaller driver subs;

It is worth doing Johnny 😊

Thank you Hermant. I will look into it 😊👍

Thank you my friend. I appreciate you watching 😊👍

It was intentional. Busted 😂👍

Thank you Amit. They are the Fyne Audio F700s. Review coming soon 😊👍

Thank you

Thank you buddy. Much appreciated 😊👍

Thank you 😊

Wow, something really went wrong with that comment! Ah well, I suppose you can translate it to something useful!

I got the jist. Sounds like those subs are doing wonders. Thanks for watching Mr J 😊👍

@@abritishaudiophile7314 Yes, basically an experience with wonderful generic 12" and some studio monitors made me realise bass was very real, music can sound amazing with the right playback mechanisms,, and the rest of my life since I've been searching for bass that clean and low.... I've not foind it, but on my journey I'm close enough that stereo is an all encompassing joyful experience with sounds all over the place! Please excuse my half awake ramblings!... Thanks again Mr T. :D

I find the same thing with the high level as well. I suspect you get a closer match with the speakers and subs receiving the same signal from the amplifier. Even though the active sub has it’s own amp. Thank you for watching and sharing your experiences 😊👍

It takes time to dial it in but you will get there 😊

It is tricky but worth it 😊👍

Thank you for watching 😊

Thank you GB. Much appreciated. I enjoy electronic music as well. Daft Punk, Kraftwork and Ghost Rider are among my favourites 😊👍

@@abritishaudiophile7314 There are many composers (Hans Zimmer, John Paesano, etc) out there who combine orchestral and electronic elements in their work. You would hear this a lot in movie/game osts, but they release studio albums as well...Listening to it without subs is just missing way too much. For instance, try the 'Tenet' movie soundtrack from Ludwig Goransson.

Thank you John. Much appreciated. It is a complex field and a tricky video to do. Everybody’s set up is different. It would be a worthwhile video to do though 😊👍

Thank you Marty. I appreciate you watching and sharing your experiences 😊👍

Thank you 😊👍

Thank you Peter 😊

Thank you for sharing 😊👍

Hi Eco, you should check out my video on speaker setup. I talk about that and other things. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jK5_jLubu7Cve40.html

Thank you for sharing your experiences 👍

Thank you Andzejs 😊👍

Thank you Michael. My wife is smitten with that amp 😊👍

@@abritishaudiophile7314 Enjoy Tarun... And once again keep up the great videos sir 👍👍👏

Thank you Kevin. If you will allow me I would just add a word of caution. My belief is that measurements and science are at the basis of our understanding of how this stuff works. That doesn’t mean that it explains everything. People who believe that are missing how science fundamentally evolves. It is a modelling mechanism used to determine causality by a process of inductive and deductive reasoning. The determinations are only valid within the framework of the model. Just look at wave/particle duality and you see how quickly we hit the limits of our understanding. This is something that I try to instil in my students when they are learning Physics. The words “truth” and “facts” smack of a certain dogmatic faith in the results that is a counter culture to genuine scientific progress. Sorry, you got me on one of my soap boxes. I will end with a quote from one of my favourite physicists, Richard Feynman, “Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts.”

@@abritishaudiophile7314 I’m glad you brought up Feynman. What a character he was, and brilliant. I really enjoyed the book “Genius”. I should read the books he has written though. Any suggestions? Nothing that’ll go way over my level of understanding though.

@@Steveh817 they can be pretty heavy going but the Feynman lectures on Physics are probably a good place to start. Also, I love the way Michio Kaku explains stuff and Brian Cox has a way of making things very accessible 😊👍

@@abritishaudiophile7314 didn't expect a reply but really appreciate your view on this topic. While I do agree with your fundamental view on how science has evolved, there is no denying that there are great amount of objectivity studies done in the fields of audio science and even in psychoacoustics. This really leaves the realm of subjectivity very little room for debate; yet audiophiles here and many ignore this fundamental fact and keep drumming up their mantra of "trusting your ears". They placed more faith in subjectivity instead of the other way round. Just to add on to the problem, manufacturers and marketing executives took advantage of buyers' ignorance and start selling cables and equipment at unreasonable price while marketing them with exotic claims. Take a pair of Black Rhodium Charlestown DCT++ speakers cable... god, a pair of these would set you back 4700 pounds... the marketing material claims that it will tackle unwanted vibration and produce clean sound; yet if you look at the specs, there isn't any published numbers in terms of resistance, capacitance, etc, which we know for a fact such parameters will affect sound. I am in the opinion, if they claim it will reduce vibration, then they need to prove it either in measurements or empirically by means of an blind AB test. Never have I seen any industry paddle so much falsehood as the audio industry. Are audiophiles really that foolish to ignore the established sciences led by pioneers such as Dr Floyd Toole and the tons of white paper written and published by the Audio Eng Society? Anyway, I am not an influencer... it is up to more youtube content makers such as yourself to educate their viewers. There will always be subjectivity - no denying but let's hope objectivity takes a more center stage... www.audioaffair.co.uk/black-rhodium-charleston-dct-cs-speaker-cable

@@kevincheong1516 I think we are pretty much on the same page Kevin. What can be explained objectively should be explained objectively. The Hifi industry and in particular the cable manufacturers have not showered themselves in glory when it comes to transparency and weeding out snake oil merchants. I just like to leave the door open to science not necessarily being able to explain everything. Certainly when it comes to how our brain interprets information. Thank you for indulging me in this discussion. I appreciate all the support you show me 😊👍

It certainly increases my enjoyment of music 😊

Thank you Deven. They are Target R4s. Filled with lead. Very heavy and sturdy 😊👍

That is great Martin 😊

Hi Alex, thank you for sharing your experiences. It is my understanding that if you position the sub where there is a null in the room that helps to even out the bass response. Having the sub in the same plane as the main speakers doesn’t generally work. Thank you for watching 😊

Great subwoofer 😊

Thank you for sharing 😊

Thank you for sharing PH 😊👍

Thank you William. That would be useful. I suppose it is because most people will want to DSP up to the transition frequency of the room that you don’t see it more often 😊👍

literally just get 2 good subs for under a grand and a minidsp box boom you got yourself high end bass REL is marketing, Monolith, HSU, SVS, Rhytmik is performance.

He Steve, I would definitely go with two small subs. You won’t go wrong with RELs. Unfortunately , there is no way of telling where to put your subs until you try. My advice, start with one and then add a second later 😊👍

@@abritishaudiophile7314 the new X range look excellent from REL. Saw them on another review site last week. They have just replaced the Ti range, so they must be good, as the ti range were excellent.

@@steverees1936 it caught my eye. Might review one at some point 😉

Cool 😎

It does seem counterintuitive but you will still hear the SBIR. The alternative is to try the sub in the locations you can get away with and see what sounds best 😊

@@abritishaudiophile7314 Like so often : Crime and punishment ( trial and error) 😬

@@astra004 Good one, thank you 😊

Thank you Maria. That is extremely kind of you to say. The truth is that 2 channel audio is limited, multi channel audio is technically superior and capable of providing you with a much more stable sound field and sense of immersion. So why aren’t there more multi channel high end systems? There are various reasons, the biggest being a problem with the lack of high quality music recordings produced in multi channel. Then there is the added complexity, space requirements and cost of developing a true high end multi channel system (more amplifiers and more speakers). For these reasons audiophiles stick to optimising two channel systems. As you have a HT system, I would stick with it and look to make improvements as and when your will and wallet allow. You can development it as far as you wish to go. The objective at each stage is to have a balanced system with no obvious weak links. Rather than get diverted into getting external DACs at this stage I would focus on future upgrades to your speakers and amplification. Don’t be tempted to upgrade in bite sizes. My rule of thumb is that you have to spend about 3 times what you have currently spent to get a worthwhile return on your investment. Even if this means waiting longer to upgrade. If your current speakers cost you $1,000 then you should be looking to spend $3,000 next time. Remember that the processor/amplifier then needs to be at the same level as the speakers. You will be amazed as to how far that approach can take you and the quality of the system you can develop in time. Good luck 😊👍👍

I have a HT system primarily used for surround music. I also have an expensive tube dac and integrated amp to enhance my 2 channel listening and agree with Taurun that listening to 5.1 multichannel SACD or Blueray is more engaging and immersive. Most dacs these days are 2 channel only so to improve it your looking at getting a high end preproccesor (expensive) or a high end blue ray player (hard to find in multichannel cause most use HDMI meaning the dac in your AV). I managed to find an old Pioneer reference BD-09fd for about 1k and a fairly inexpensive Denon SACD/DVD player that connects via Denon link to my AV for low jitter SACD playback and couldn't be happier. I had already spent a decent amount on KEF R series speakers all the way around and Martin Logan sub. HT has nice benefits for music like base mgmt. and dedicated center as you mentioned. Buying used electronics is risky proposition but has worked out well so far. All my speakers were purchased new though and agree speakers should be your first upgrade and dacs aren't nearly as important in my experience. The Wolfsons and Burr Browns in my players/AV are still pleasing even compared to my Sabre with 8 Telefunken tubes in the analog output stage. I choose to play my Elton John SACDs over streaming same albums through my 2 channel tube dac in hires every time. Given well done mixes, SACD and Blueray surround discs are still the best of the best IMO

Thank you Alex 😊

@@abritishaudiophile7314 love your channel by the way. I’ve learnt so much! Really interesting content.

@@AlexMcDermott thank you Alex. I appreciate you watching 😊👍

Thank you. I have a REL Strata III. I tend to use Jazz Trios and Quartets. It is easy to track the double bass and drums when there are so few instruments and I have some great recordings 😊👍

Cool 😉

Thank you SU. Nice analogy 😊👍

Thank you Mark. I don’t high pass my speakers. That is generally done in home cinema where you want to maximise SPL capability. My priority is to have more bass sources in the room to even out the response 😊👍

Thank you J Ked. I appreciate you watching and taking the time to share this 😊👍

@@abritishaudiophile7314 Of course. I always make time to watch your videos. Not full of dribble (american saying?). They are well worth the time.

@@abritishaudiophile7314 if you can find the time, try taking two subs , one on either side of you fire place half way up the wall. I think you will be surprised at the wave front that will create. It will look terrible but should sound great. I say should because we don't get to see the rest of your room. Also remember that the low frequency cut off is determined not just by the speakers but an even greater effect by the lowest allowable standing wave determined by room size. Sorry if I sound preachy. Don't mean to as I am sure you know that. It is easy for me to be an arm chair quarterback (another american term). I can't imagine how much time you put trying to figure out what to say, how much to put in and what to take out. That's you you do what you do and I just comment.

@@jked7463 I would love to that. Right in the null created by the length of the room. If I get hold of another sub, I may just try it to whilst the wife is out 😂

@@abritishaudiophile7314 exactly!

Thank you for watching and sharing your experiences John. I loved your analogy 😊👍

Thank you Mark 😊👍

Well said Joshua 😊

@@abritishaudiophile7314 Hey I have another track suggestion Check out Tess Henley Wonderland. Her vocals and musical style is very nice.

Thanks. Will do Joshua 👍

Thank you Shahed. The F700s should be next 😊👍

If they are full range then the main benefit will be in active bass management. Evening out the bass response in the room 😊

I have to small ones in my bedroom system just to smooth out the bass in the room. Thank you for watching Panagoda 😊👍

I'm in the same situation. I have a small listening room about the same size and listen about 6-8 feet away. I am looking at the REL T Zero subwoofers (two of them) to complement my bookshelf speakers...think it would be a good match, as I am very concerned about standing waves/boomy bass issues in a small room.

@@marcfoss7687 sounds like a good plan Marc 😊

@@abritishaudiophile7314 Thanks Tarun, still a few questions, but I'm getting there!

Thank you Ajay 😊👍

Nice sub ST 😊

Please let me know how you get on 😉

Thank you for watching and sharing Lee 😊👍

@@abritishaudiophile7314 No one likes my opinions like I do.

I like them 😉👍

T5/i's are on sale right now and it looks like they're being closed out. I'm thinking about picking up a pair for $1100 before they disappear. My listening room is never going to be large enough to demand something brawnier for exclusively 2-channel listening.

@@alm5693 They are being replaced with a new model costing, I think about $899. I'd say grab them. As usual I got in just in time to pay the higher price.