In Monster he said "I'll become the monster to everyone but us" but he didnt mean his crew. "Us" meant 3 people and 2 of them are in Ithica rn.

1:09 “I feel like I am being sucked into a whole magical realm, okay? Like I’m just picturing the animatics already…” You just captured exactly what it felt like to listen to this saga lmao

What makes the betrayal even sadder is that Ody and Eury were brother’s in law, Eury was married to Odysseus’ sister 😭

Another thing I’ve seen people miss: You can *hear* all 6 men being eaten in the background while Scylla is singing. Some of them are less eminent but you can hear the moment all 6 of them die

By killing the cattle of Helios they signed their death certificate. Its almost like Eurylochus knew they weren't coming home so he chose to die on his own terms😔

Eurylocus told Odysseus that if he wanted all the power, he would have to take all the blame. Then I find it interesting that as soon as Zeus showed up, he called Odysseus 'Captain' again, giving him back the reins when the consequences of his actions came knocking. I'm not blaming him or excusing what Odysseus did, but it's something noted. The call back to the first song of the Troy saga got me. Zeus is forcing Odysseus to make an impossible decision, and Odysseus is begging him not to make him do this. Again. The prophecy is coming true. He sacrificed his men, and his crew and friend betrayed him. Odysseus is not the man he was when he left Troy.

"I see the song of past romance, I see the sacrifice of man, I see potrayals of betrayal and a brother's final stand..."

You will be pleased to know Gigi is already doing the first two together

the entire video i was like "oh no he is not ready for the next song" lol anyway some information to keep in mind 1) the crew did not know about Scylla only Odysseus since they had wax in their ears only odysseus who read the sirens lips knew what was coming 2) Scylla is a supernatural female creature, with 12 feet and 6 heads on long snaky necks, each head having a triple row of sharklike teeth, while her waist has the heads of baying dogs. 3) six heads six torches six men died. Odysseus planned for this the torches were handed out to attract the heads to certain people 4)In Puppeteer at the start Eurylochus was trying to tell Odysseus he had opened the bag 4)listen to Luck Runs Out again then listen to Mutiny and you will see the parallels 5)Nobody had their throat slashed that was a cow Eurylochus killed 6) Eurylochus for the first time used a nickname. before now he always called him captain or the one time he called him brother so after the mutiny Odysseus is no longer the captain there are no longer any titles standing between them leaving it as just two brothers trying to help each other understand.

Eurhylochus opening the bag did infact get 558 men killed. If you remember, they could SEE ithaca when he opened the bag and sent them to the land of the giants. Scylla sinks ships if you dont feed her 6 heads. He did the only possible thing to get through.

I love this saga but i feel like it does not explain Scyla well for people who dont know the mythology. Scyla is a six headed monster and ody is giving six men lights to feed them to scyllas heads so they can drive away while she eats them.

Thank you so much, it's always so entertaining to watch your reactions to Epic!! Answering your question: nobody got killed during the "Mutiny". Odysseus was about to kill Eurylochus ("i am not letting you get in my way!"), but got slashed by crew, trying to stop him ("my brothers, why?"), and then knocked out and woke up ("my head.. where are we?") when they found the island!

Eurylochus did open the bag, but Ody doxxing himself for no reason was the reason Poseidon killed everyone. Poseidon was gonna kill him either at sea or flood Ithaca. Both honest and stupid mistakes, but Ody making Eury light 6 torches to unknowingly mark 6 of his friends for death after he was guilt ridden over the bag was pretty cruel. Glad they still cared for each other after the fight at least, even if it ended tragically. Eurylochus calling him “Ody” and saying they weren’t gonna make it home was so sad, he just gave up hope

This saga did something to me... Anyway, if you want to know what exactly Scylla is, she's a female creature with six heads and twelve feet. The men who were holding the torches got eaten by Scylla and Eurylochus would have too, but I believe he handed a torch to someone else. Also, the crew didn't kill Odysseus. Before he got the chance to finish off Eurylochus, one of the men stabbed him, he was knocked out, and they ended up on that island with all the cows. Eurylochus killed one of the cows by slashing its throat and... Yeah. The female voice in Suffering and Thunder Bringer was supposed to be Odysseus' wife Penelope. This saga is the beginning of Act 2, as well.

10:02 FINALLY SOMEONE REACTING TO THE REVEAL!

So they knocked odyssey out and tied him up. That's why he couldn't stop them from killing the cows

One of the first things Odysseus said to these men in the musical was "do what I say, and you'll see them (their families) again", It was almost a sort of promise. The 6 torches were the first real time when this was truly broken, an order which knowingly cost lives. It's as much a betrayal as the mutiny is after.

This saga! It was so flipping good! Scylla and Thunder Bringer are my favorite songs in this one. I’m so excited for the animatics, we all know they are gonna go HARD!

If you look at Jorge shorts there’s a animatic of Odysseus in the water while the ending melody of Thunder bringer is playing in the back. He played it as a teaser to promote the Thunder Saga however with context now it’s the aftermath of encountering Zeus. If you watch it carefully, he is bleeding from a abdomen wound. During Mutiny he was stabbed by Eurylocus.

Eurylouchus had killed the cow. 18:34

The first red flag in suffering was the lack of violas, watch out for them motifs y’all!

To answer a couple questions you might have... 1. Odysseus had Eurylochus light six torches to mark the men Scylla was allowed to take as the toll for allowing them to pass. I think Ody had Eury light the torches hoping he'd keep one and end up being fed to Scylla as payback for leading them to poseidon by opening the bag costing the lives of 557 men 2. It was Odysseus that got stabbed in Mutiny... During the livestream Jay chose a animatic that showed this... Ody had actually beat Eury quite easily and because of this a crew member stabbed him in the back to save Eury from Ody's final blow... 3. Essentially Zeus destroyed Ody's ship killing the entire crew except for Odysseus himself but as Zeus was flying down to do so Eurylochus and the crew attempted to kill Odysseus missing him by a hair as Zeus kills them.

exactly what happens in Scylla and Mutiny can be a little hard to follow with audio only, especially if you're not familiar with the original story or what Scylla even is(beautiful woman upper half, 6 headed sea-serpent/dragon monster lower half). its why during the livestream premiere for these song he had animatics/rough animation showing the action scenes and not just the lyrics and some extra text saying what's happening(though that was there for other parts). other comments have explained what happened in the scenes well enough already so i wont go into it here, but i do hope the animations that were made for the livestream either gets released onto youtube, or those animators do the rest of the song and put it up as its own animatic.

I LOVE this reaction, and uggh! in the end when he said "But we'll die.." sound just like a little kid but he's been the muscle the whole time, it just hurt my heart to hard. Def subscribing, I wanna see more, you had me vibin with you the whole video.

In case no one has said it before the Troy and Cyclops saga got renewed and now you might want to listen to those so you can hear the newer versions of the Cyclops and Troy saga :)

In Scylla Scylla is a 6 headed 12 ft tall beast, she uses her false body to lure in people and then eats them kind of like a lantern fish. In the song when she says “Deep down” and “Give up your honor and fame!” The reason her voice is layered is because all 6 of her heads are singing in unison. I thought that was really cool.

I am literally obsessed with your energy, you're JAMMING IT OUT and it's so contagious 😭

In mutiny, the first slash you heard was Odysseus’s crew stabbing him

Eurylochus messed up but he didn’t know he’d end up causing most of the fleet to die by Poseidons hand. Odysseus was well aware that six men needed to die, he ordered Eurylochus to choose five others to hold torches. Odysseus made Eurylochus unknowingly choose five men to die along with Eurylochus himself. That is incredibly twisted. It’s only thanks to Eurylochus dropping his torch that allowed him to survive Scylla.

Fun Fact: Eurylicus is Odysseus's Brother-In-Law in Homer's The Odyssey. Whether that's still the case in Epic, I don't know, Jorgie's taken a lot of liberties so far. Scylla is also a giant sea monster with a beautiful female as a lure, and six hound-like heads that sprout from her groin, no I'm not kidding.

Amazing video!

Love that "no longer you" tells us whats to happen but still leaves surprises as to how it happens

Man had the same reaction as me during Mutiny 😂 perfection

I knew you would love this. Honest I was looking forward to the Thunder saga more than any other saga and it did not disappoint!!!

Fun fact about Scylla, she used to be a Nymph like Circe but got turned into a monster by her, cause she was jealous of a mortal-turned merman who was crushing on Scylla (pre-dog headed serpent body) and asked Circe for a love potion. So Circe, angry at Scylla for stealing her crush (even though Scylla wasn't interested in the guy), used a poison to turn her into a monster.

Joey you need to watch the VOD of the live stream, the official animatics he included will BREAK YOU

Yo, I'm new to this series too and it's been one of the greatest adventures I've ever been on!

They killed one of Apollo’s cows. That’s whose throat got sliced and why Zeus came and delivered justice

woo! first premiere I've gone to!

Mutiny: my heart just shattered Me: just wait another minute (l live your reactions)

I love your expressions ! This saga is truly an emotional rollercoaster !

i love how excited you are to see the animatics!! i feel the same LOL I know they're going to eat for this saga (but at what cost to my emotions 🙃)

First time here, but girl your hair looks AMAZING

So idk if you intend on watching the whole livestream that the Saga was released during, but either way, Jorge had numerous short animatics commissioned for many of the songs. This is especially true for several songs in Thunder Saga. What's happening makes more sense because it's being explained on-screen by Jorge or explained via the short animatics. Someone named 4W Element Ender uploaded the Thunder Saga segment from the livestream if you'd want to watch it, it makes things make more sense for pretty much all the songs. It's especially true for Scylla, Mutiny, and Thunderbringer.

Thx for the reaction

Flashy Hades haha

I absolutely love your energy.

You may have my favorite reaction of all time.

THUNDER BRING HER THROUGH THE WRINGER!

What a cool sing intro

WILD Act 2 opener! It made sure I’d hate Odysseus until the end of the musical tho 😡

At 8:53 I misheard you into thinking you were saying “I am gay”. This may be due to me looking at your most viewed videos and reading the title of your Jadien animation reaction

18:41 around here, you were asking who was killed, nobody was killed, the sound you heard was a member of the crew, specifically the one who says "how are we supposed to trust you now?" Before the rest of the crew join in going behind ody and stabbing him in the abdomen before he killed eury, eury then knocks him out and he wakes up when they're at helios' island

LOOOL BRO when you said "I'm gagged" I heard "I'm gay" hahhaha like nothing wrong with that but that caught me so off guard haha love ur stuff as always tho

being p well versed in greek mythology, the moment Odysseus said "light up six torches" I knew where this was going.. it also made the end to Mutiny torture - I was just going "nooo you idiot Helios sees EVERYTHING!" the entire time

This is a old vidio from johnnie the name of the vidio is i can't belive i did this and colby from sam and colby are in it and johnnie geting his love and hate tattos you shuold watch it. But it's really short like 5 min. Love you and you're vidios

Favorit moments Oh no....

Damn you switched up on Eurylochus QUICK. Like fair.

I love this great job and can you react to Deaf, Mute, and Blind making pizza from Johnnie

Odysseus really can only do extreams, from mercy in the worst places to, fucking letting the sirens drown instead of just killing them... Like wtf odysseus, you damned hypocrite

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You should listen to kim Dracula's music i think you would like it

Poseidon not afreyd from scllya this write for the musical

whEN👆-eVER, i speak of the thunder saga.. I (me) oNLY speak of Luke Holt! NEVER🙅 Zeus. Hera I mean nOTHING by any compliment I give. It's aimed at Luke! Thunder Bringer is pro-Zeus propaganda and we are all victims. ✨Please don't hurt me✨

Zuze killed the rest of odyssey man but odyssey is just droning in the water and then he will end up and calypso iland and if Athena can’t convince zuze and the rest of the gods to let him go then he is stuck on that iland for ever