ACE COMBAT Original Aircraft Official Commentary #5 ASF-X Shinden Ⅱ

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ACE COMBAT Original Aircraft Official Commentary #5 ASF-X Shinden Ⅱ

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Жыл бұрын

*English captions added.
The "ACE COMBAT Original Aircraft Official Commentary" is a special project that invites actual experts on the fictional fighter aircraft and weapons that appear in the ACE COMBAT series to reveal the details of the settings in comparison with reality.
In Commentary #5, foresaw the future?! the guests will discuss the ASF-X Shinden Ⅱ, experimental aircraft with vertical takeoff and landing capability for the first time in ACE COMBAT series.
✈Guest✈.
Masato Kanno (Art Director, Bandai Namco Studios Inc.)
Noritaka Otani (Editor-in-Chief, J-Wings, IKAROS PUBLICATIONS, LTD.)
Osamu Takeuchi (Military Journalist)
✈Staff✈.
Director:Takao Oshima
Production: IKAROS PUBLICATIONS, LTD.

Пікірлер: 107

@isam133 Жыл бұрын

エンジン縦積みはやはり英国面の影響によるものだったか…

@f-1451 Жыл бұрын

ようやく来たな、毎回楽しみにしてる！そしてやっぱり河森正治先生すげぇ…てか、今回最終回！？

@Kisaragi_Redline Жыл бұрын

震電が当時としては異質な後退翼で震電2がこの時代では異質の前進翼になってる対比が好き PS ここからは視聴後のお話エスコン開発チームの先見の明というか先を見据えてコンセプトを立てて行くのがすごいよね。 ACAHの曲神曲が多い。最後にDark Blue流すのいいなぁ…ことの終わり感が最高。

@user-sc6kq2ts7l Жыл бұрын

この機体の「実在しそう感」良いよね…

@9875963 Жыл бұрын

河森氏へのリスペクトも込みで、竹内先生文句なしのアリ！

@user-nz8ut6rw5l Жыл бұрын

将来ASF-Xと日英伊共同開発ステルス戦闘機同じエスコンで編隊する未来像くる

@user-oq6ir6ye9w Жыл бұрын

インフィニティで失速しても機首を水平にできて90km/hくらいで降下しながら前進できる機能が面白かったなぁ。確かAV-8、F-35B、フェンリアも出来たと思う。「出来たからなんや？」って機能だったし、ノズルが稼働する訳でもなかったけどフリーフライトで遊んでた。 7で垂直着陸モドキが出来なくなってたのはちょっと残念。次回作はVTOL機能再現してほしい。

@KH-je3zr Жыл бұрын

首都攻略戦でワシントンマップだと敵拠点が母艦だったから、ホバーASMでロケポ撃ちまくってたな

@MrLemmy82 Жыл бұрын

Damn, poor Fenrir got completely forgotten as the first VTOL Ace Combat fictional to be designed! Also since that was the last episode, I guess we're not seeing a video on the original Ace Combat superplane, the XFA-27 once again gets overlooked...

@janusz4156 Жыл бұрын

Taiga ASF-X Shinden II (in the name and history of the company there are references to Fuji Heavy Industries, currently Subaru Group, producer of the legendary Impreza WRX STi) is all the more unusual that it could have a chance to be implemented, but as I mentioned in your test about him that it took many years to work out the details. Therefore, a similar aircraft with V/STOL properties - Lockheed Martin F-35B Lightning II - will go to Japan. I have a vision regarding the last update to Ace Combat 7: Skies Unknown after the release of "eight".

@lonemarkkingoftypos3722 Жыл бұрын

Xanonically, Fenrir is made in 2020 (that was thr year of rhe Aurelian-Leasath war) so Shinden II is "technically" the first fictional VTOL aircraft?

@MrLemmy82 Жыл бұрын

@@lonemarkkingoftypos3722 These videos are from a development and design perspective, not a lore one (Because the Shinden II has zero Strangereal lore so far), ACX just gets forgotten, as it often does, because they want to hype the Shinden II to sell more model kits of it.

@lonemarkkingoftypos3722 Жыл бұрын

@@MrLemmy82 tbf, if they did sell its model kits, alot of AC fans would buy it (i would too if i had spare money) as some way of "supporting" the game and Project Aces. Aswell as an anticipation for thr next installment.

@user-vu3yp9uo7w Жыл бұрын

開発経緯にあるように紅茶面決めたようなエンジン配列が面白い

@kz-lo7qw Жыл бұрын

日英共同開発って、ACESのストレンジリアルのリアル具合にはいつも鳥肌が立ちます。もちろん、突き抜けたとんでも兵器も好き‼️ この、架空をどんだけ現実で語れるかの企画またやって欲しいな🎉

@xof5678 Жыл бұрын

震電2の設定細かいなあしかも現実が追い付いて来てるも凄い…… 架空機解説最終回お疲れ様でした今までの解説楽しんで見させていただきました

@KH-je3zr Жыл бұрын

今作のDLCでストレンジリアルにも存在する事が確定したけど、灯台戦争ではノースポイント辺りに配備されてたのだろうか。VTOL母艦は開幕の無人機攻撃で狙われただろうし

@user-tc2jl7dx9j Жыл бұрын

ちょっと整備の面が大変そうだけど、やっぱロマン過ぎる見た目だわ。カッコいい。

@blackswan3xx Жыл бұрын

SU-47ベルクト好きとしては前進翼に惹かれました。架空機解説楽しかったです。🌈

@willof1384 Жыл бұрын

>The first experimental aircraft in the series with vertical takeoff and landing capabilities Fenrir fans are sheething rn.

@user-sw5cl3zv4h Жыл бұрын

今度は巨大超兵器もやってほしいが、次回作エースコンバット8のPV告知はやって欲しい ASF-Xも次回作エースコンバット8に出してほしい。

@Koneneko08 Жыл бұрын

締めでエスコン7の曲使うのは、さすが公式、わかってるって感じたわw

@user-ee4kn2og9c Жыл бұрын

日英伊の新型戦闘機が実はこれと似たものになったりして……！と思ったけど、前進翼はステルス性が劣るらしいから難しいかな…

@rytitsk2975 3 күн бұрын

最新のモックアップはラムダ翼からデルタ翼に変わりましたね

@Burnett003 Жыл бұрын

ASF-Xといえば、エースコンバットイカロス・イン・ザ・スカイというライトノベルも面白かった。誤字があったりするけど、インフィニティの蝶使いに通じる衛星軌道からのドローン操作とかあった。

@KH-je3zr Жыл бұрын

クォックスの群体指揮とか面白かった

@leeee8550 Жыл бұрын

アサノがカッコ良すぎる

@user-gq3xo9lk7b Жыл бұрын

また、同じような機会があればヴィルコラクやADF-11Fもやって欲しい…

@shunkawaii Жыл бұрын

凄すぎる… 現実の情勢がまさにそのようになりつつあるのも凄い…

@haotehmao Жыл бұрын

As expected from Kawamori's designs. But alas, Fenrir my beloved. . .

@Rhino_bolter Жыл бұрын

全体的にはかなり奇抜な形状だと思うのですが、ダイバータレス超音速インレットを備えている所などは今までのエスコンには無かった新しい要素かなと思います

@rzero21 Жыл бұрын

3:41 damn, this guy really knows about fighters history...!

@user-wr6xb9kw4q Жыл бұрын

一番好きな架空機で、ムックもプラモ(2種)も持ってますけど、さすがに可動部多いし、英国面だし Xかな～と思ったけど〇ありがとうございます凄い興味深くて楽しかったです。最終回と言わずｱｰｸﾊﾞｰﾄﾞやｸﾞﾚｲﾌﾟﾆﾙとかの超兵器も含めて、全部やってください

@ACECOMBOI Жыл бұрын

Love the fact that PA/BN added English subtitles

@razgriz350Z Жыл бұрын

AHのBGM聞いたらまたやりたくなってくる

@user-sr8us2sv4q Жыл бұрын

ほとんど初めてでてきた架空機ではないのに時代が追いついた部分もあるのはほんとに考えられた機体なのだと改めて感じました。素晴らしい企画ありがとうございました!😊

@gripen777 Жыл бұрын

Shinden II is beautiful. One of the best planes in AC!!!

@zannzaburu1 Жыл бұрын

河森正治はマジですげえって事ですね

@user-qt6jl3mp2n Жыл бұрын

此の機体のデビュー直後はまさか日英共同開発がリアルで実現するとは思いもよりませんでしたね。

@RY-xm8og Жыл бұрын

めちゃめちゃ面白かった〜！是非またエスコンで新しい架空機が追加された際にはまたやってほしい！

@DeltafangEX Жыл бұрын

Kawamori is always strangely prophetic with his mergers/joint development. You can see that with some of his earlier speculative mergers in Macross as well.

@nicoferguson1215 Жыл бұрын

Something to note, the stacked twin engine design has been used IRL, most famously by the English Electric Lightning, which was a interceptor that rivaled the F-104 Starfighter

@kdog350 Жыл бұрын

They mentioned that in the video

@Knight6831 Жыл бұрын

Yeah here is a point to consider If the British had not suffered the issues they did, the English Electric Lightning could have been equipped with 2 Rolls-Royce RB.106R Thames which would give it 30,000ibf dry thrust and 41,500ibf Reheat The problem is for English Electric would be if Rolls-Royce continued with the RB.106 and not the Avon then the Lightning will not other option to take 2 Thames engines because the design is too far along to be redesigned so all English Electric could do prior to production is to reinforce the airframe to handle the massive thrust

@leeee8550 Жыл бұрын

acahでの愛機！小説も読んだぜ！！！

@user-xl5cd4ib8l Жыл бұрын

巨大兵器シリーズとかもやって欲しい

@Shad0wReaper133 Жыл бұрын

No love for the XFA-27?

@aa-ws7nh Жыл бұрын

このシリーズとても楽しく見ました。次は是非エスコン恒例のトンデモ兵器をレビューしてもらいたいです！シンファクシとかはいい線いきそうな気がします

@rarityadf11f Жыл бұрын

If we compare F-35B with ASF-X, yes the ASF-X will win in almost every aspect easily due to its Spesification and Ability

@Spudtron98 Жыл бұрын

I believe it's known as the Lightning III in British service, fittingly.

@tzk6968 Жыл бұрын

ハセガワから1/72のキットは出てるけど1/144は個人のガレージキットでしか出てないから、コトブキヤに期待したいけど難しいかな。

@user-cj1qh6kq2h Жыл бұрын

またやってくれー！出来ればPSPのカリバーンとフェンリアもやって欲しいー！

@MemoGGG16 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for rewarding our community. I would love more content like this!

@user-fr4fv3nz4d Жыл бұрын

コレもカッコイイ😳

@grgm205 Жыл бұрын

I wonder why both the ADF-11 and XFA-27 aren't covered here despite both planes being DLC's for AC7

@user-md5yz4gt2p Жыл бұрын

縦置き双発エンジンはどちらかが故障しても(重心が変わらず)安定する。前進主翼も空母以外でも短い滑走路の空港でも使える。

@solowingborders3239 Жыл бұрын

The Shinden II is kind of blursed to my eyes, personally, I'm not a fan of the vertical engine stacking nor the variable airframe. I love the concept though and how forward thinking it was considering the forthcoming 6th generation design. The Fenrir, XFA-27, ADF-11 or even the Underrated XFA-24 Apalis would've been cool to see in this series. Ah well, Project Aces, ありがとーございました。

@blacay251 Жыл бұрын

I hope they do an episode of the XFA-27 in the future, it's my favorite fictional plane

@user-er3dd3dz4d Жыл бұрын

凄く良い企画でした！専門家さん達のお話も、ゲームをやってるだけじゃ分からない戦闘機の奥深さを知れてとても面白かったです。エスコンの架空機が(使用される事無く)実用化されるのを楽しみにしていますw 有り難うごさいました！🎉🎉🎉

@user-sf4po2vo1t Жыл бұрын

速度域でウィンウィン動く所が多すぎて✖︎かと思った

@tenn-im6hm Жыл бұрын

面白い企画だったなぁまたやってほしい

@SoloWing88 Жыл бұрын

I own the masterfile shinden ii and I do like the lore That I could gleam despite not being able to read it. So it's nice to see some of it in this.

@bluemoon4178 Жыл бұрын

とっても楽しい企画ありがとうございました

@takuminfle 9 ай бұрын

震電2はそのままガォークになれそう

@rzero21 Жыл бұрын

After watching this series and the recent development of warfare... I think AC3 is the most accurate game so far... Tele-existence and IN-SAT-NET technologies would play a huge role in modern warfare. Perhaps Project ACES doesn't think that high about AC3, but AC3 is quite close to what modern warfare is all about. Operating aircraft from far away without real pilots involved into actual combat. I could even say that F/A-32C Erne would be pretty close to the new JASDF combatant design. The F/A-32C was a Twin Engine Design, just stacked pretty close together...

@shiroganekokuyou Жыл бұрын

2040年代のエスコン3というかニューコムな世界はあり得ると思うんで、X-49とかR-331とかもっと前の時代に考案の機体なのにどれだけ先見の明があったのか掘り下げてみてほしい

@zawasu47 Жыл бұрын

確かにちょっと架空機にしては、不格好だなーって思ったけどデザイナーの目論見通りだったわけか自分の様な１ユーザーでは考えが及ばないようなところまで、ちゃんと考えられてるんだな…

@jpdcmo Жыл бұрын

When the best plane in our galaxy the XFA-27 ?

@tylerritchie2736 Жыл бұрын

I would have loved to have heard the take on the Fregata. That quad engine design is gorgeous.

@visunax2708 Жыл бұрын

○が貰えてよかったw 確かにかっこ良すぎないところが逆に魅力的！

@lonemarkkingoftypos3722 Жыл бұрын

The whole design definitely looks podsible, though the most concerning part are those bending/moving wingtips/stabilizers. As that will be a nightmare for the maintenance crew (especially since it moves as the plane reach certain speeds.

@paulinagabrys8874 Жыл бұрын

Mój drugi ulubiony fikcyjny samolot, zaraz za Morganem. Bardzo dobrze gra się nim w multiplayerze. Kawamori zrobił bardzo dobry projekt, godny Macrossa Plus

@user-kp9xv2pn1r Жыл бұрын

もっと聞きたいですねカッコ良さ全振りのXFA-27とか、全翼複葉のX-49ナイトレーベンとか。 FB-22もいいなぁ

@hai-tyuu_2012 Жыл бұрын

河森監督の描いた機体だから無茶苦茶あるけどアリだろうなとは思ってた。が、まさか時代のほうがコイツに近づくとは思わなかったからなぁ・・・ｗ

@user-gl5ho7bu5b Жыл бұрын

BANDAIと提携して河森監督がデサインするのに、何でVF-0やVF-Xが参入しないのかなぁ…20年待ってるのに😵

@jocax188723 Жыл бұрын

I'm kind of surprised Kawamori got a pass - I always thought the wingtips and tail swivel mechanisms were unrealistic, but perhaps that's not the case. Then again, given what his other designs usually do, maybe this was tame by comparison.

@lonemarkkingoftypos3722 Жыл бұрын

Its possible, but a nightmare for rhe maintenance crew and budget.

@TheSergioTurbo Жыл бұрын

Cosnidering his "usual designs" are space-grade fighters with thermonuclear engines capable of turning into robots... yeah, the Shinden is very tame!

@goroumido7952 Жыл бұрын

今の日英共同開発の経緯と同じじゃないかぁ！

@-zkk4677 Жыл бұрын

これ一番好きな機体だから嬉しい〜！！！！

@ok-wl7ge Жыл бұрын

ACAHの曲が良すぎて内容が頭に入って来なかったw この震電Ⅱのケイナガセカラーのプラモデル買ってまだ作ってないから完成させないとなぁ

@user-hy8uq5rb2h Жыл бұрын

縦双発…イギリス… バグパイプの音が聞こえたな…

@wataruhimeno7733 Жыл бұрын

待ってました！

@sterabrs4793 Жыл бұрын

ぜひATD-X(INFではATD-0)も7なり、次作で実装していただきたいですね。Xの機体ももちろんですが！！

@username_2667 Жыл бұрын

Потрясающе. Я знаю что такое J7N1 Shinden и концепт новейшего самолёта, который создавали как оммаж, выглядит прекрасно.

@user-zu2oj4bv5o Жыл бұрын

私の耳が聞こえないけど、日本語字幕嬉しい！

@SulejmaniP Жыл бұрын

ニューコム機もやってくれ

@user-gm1ng2zv9j Жыл бұрын

次回はXFA-27A、Xシリーズの機体、3のRナンバーを解説してほしいなぁ

@rinnefujishiro6650 Жыл бұрын

うーん、河森監督はやっぱり戦闘機やって貰ったら右に出る者がいないんだなぁ

@lixim3546 Жыл бұрын

Rナンバー来ないかと思ったら終わっちった

@koma9sensey Жыл бұрын

Thats it??? B...but ACE COMBAT X... like dude... come on... 😐

@fgfhjfhjfbhfghf5771 Жыл бұрын

Put Ace Combat on Switch please

@emilia0829 Жыл бұрын

ADF11Fもやってほしかった

@Krystalmyth Жыл бұрын

It'd be nice if Namco added something of substance to the game. Every other developer is making real DLC content for their successful games. But Namco just releases skins and planes for Ace Combat 7 for 5 years. 😔

@MIDORInoKYURI Жыл бұрын

2030年に本当に三菱の力を借りて作っちゃだんだよね…

@jya1883 Жыл бұрын

やはり英国面を感じるよねこの機体w

@user-qi6ik1fl2v Жыл бұрын

でもウェポンベイにしてもらいたかった、翼の下にぶら下げちゃうとな…

@acceptablecasualty5319 Жыл бұрын

Hey, i really appreciate all the cool extra stories, but the audio design is lacking, in my opinion. The music choice is very aggressive, it is too loud, and the interviewees microphones cannot compete with the BGM. It makes listening difficult, even though the music is very good!

@Skyjack-sv1no Жыл бұрын

子持ちししゃもみたいなお腹がいい

@janjapan1689 Жыл бұрын

垂直尾翼が動き過ぎじゃないですかね…

@FM-hw8yv Жыл бұрын

What about the dear Fenrir?

@narvelous_cipher_N Жыл бұрын

自衛隊機に前進翼機が配備される日を願わずにはいられない！（ｵﾁﾂｹ）

@TheManeymon Жыл бұрын

I'm gonna miss these. I hope Ace Combat 8 will be as good as the PS2 trilogy and 6. 7 was ok, but it lacked in the story department and the gameplay was a little off compared to the PS2 games or 6. The TLS getting nerfed was sad, it barely scratches ships now when it used to destroy them quickly. Multiplayer needs more modes like capture the flag, domination, or even a racing mode. Co-op campaign would be interesting to see too.

@user-kp9tz7lu8b Жыл бұрын

こいつVTOLできんのか

@yuyushiki3677 Жыл бұрын

主翼端や尾翼の反角が変わるのも、それが実際稼動する場面も、まったく有用性や現実性が示されていないのが残念ですね。離陸時にわざわざ主翼を折り曲げて翼面積を狭くするなどナンセンスが過ぎる。主翼端の変形が効いてくるのは超音速領域の話しで、あとは巡航時のドラッグ減少に若干(ウィングレット的な)意味があるか程度でしょう。