If a king would have showed up it would have been the best upset hands down

You beat me to it

While I admit that there's something to be said for inappropriate premature celebration at the table, they also were trying their best to SAVE this idiot from calling with kings He deserved to lose just as much as they did.

right?!

Yup

I was thinking the same thing. There was still someone in the hand with a decision to make. The disrespect was horrible.

It was also pretty dumb, I mean she was saying she had AA.

They were definitely trying to influence the action, stupidly wanting a fold from Richey

@@andrehanderson yeah exactly lol

She gave too many chances to fold, wat a donk😂

That's what you get when real life barbies with megalomaniac minds are allowed to walk freely

This!

Yet... He goes in with kings...

It's not the main event it's a 3k

She is coke addict

True. But how dumb do you gotta be to call with Kings in this situation. Both players were literally telling him what they had

Joe Buck: "That was a disgusting act by Shak and Hellmuth..."

​​​ KK is the same as AA before the river comes. Better when both the other aces aren't in the deck. The players with pocket rockets are pretty much depending on a flush... which is what, 2%? Its essentially the same as duece deuce til all the cards are flipped. Thats what makes poker so fun. A trash nothing hand can become the nuts. AA gets cracked all the time. Idk how many times I snap folded like a 8 3 offsuit, as I should... and it would have been trips or a full boat lol.

​@gwoody4003 how is KK the same before river ??? You are behind and have to hit a 2 out river... its not the same.. lol.. the aces don't have to hit the river

@@bestvalet70 what I mean is a pair is just a pair til all the cards are flipped. Your opponent could have like... 7-2 off and manage to turn trips or 2 pair and your kings are worthless.

Nah never fold kings.

@@mrhumble2937 Doyle famously said something like "a great player can count the number of times he's folded kings on 1 hand"......THIS is the exact situation Doyle was talking about, you 100% fold kings here

Especially when Hellmuth insta calls and says I called in a quarter of a second. At the same time Shak is dancing saying I got it. He must have been oblivious to everything and all he contracted on were the kings

The woman was literally saying I got them to her husband 10 feet away throwing up ace signals and asking if she had them. What a fool with KK

@@MainStreamRegimeDemocratsFold KK EVERY time in that situation. The consequences for calling off are too great. Live to fight another hand.

With less than 10 BB left ? No.

Easiest fold???? You should switch to playing chess or something

@russbrown3159 You should've stopped after "life"

@@Alex-uo7th bro who cares about that. They are basically telling him they have aces

​@@russbrown3159Of course. Because the Aces were basically guaranteed to split. But just because he was the only one with a chance to win the whole pot, doesn't mean he was favourite to beat the Aces 😂. In other words, both the Aces had a 75% chance of splitting a win, while the Kings had only a 20% chance of winning it all. So he still made an unbelievably stupid call 😂

Nowdays it would never be a fold, becasue people understand shoving ranges better and with 10BB, and a shove from a 16 BB stack plus an overcall by an 8BB stack. It goes in. ALWAYS

@@michaeljames3912 Exactly this, this is a call even if the opponent show the aces directly before the call. People here doesn't seem to understand that the stack is even more important than the cards. After that he is committed to an 80k raise, probably 5-6 bb left if fold, you call this spot even with 7-2 off

@@Alex-uo7th Even if they show the aces?! 😂

​@@michaeljames3912I mean, Beth was literally dancing and saying "I got it", Phil was grandstanding. Knowledge of shoving ranges doesn't mean anything when people are literally telling you they have Aces.

​@jamesbell1613 😂 yeah that's like showing me a gun fully loaded and asking me to go first in Russian roulette

He knew they both got the same hand. Hence he’s drawing live. Two for the price of one.

​@@CCharlie-vb5mn😂😂😂😂

@@CCharlie-vb5mn 1:34 Nah, you can clearly see him being disappointed the moment he saw they both got 2 aces. So he indeed got what he deserverd.

and Phil was arguing he snapped call ^^ He would have think a little with AK or QQ, almost easy fold with KK here, the acting girl is smiling to be snap call by PH... and PH is PH... What the heecckk did he think they can have, at least one of them?

50 cards vs 2, what are u thinking

Yeah I though I saw him.

It's called gambling .. he gave himself a chance to win a big pot.. he prolly thought Beth's acting job ment she had A/Q A/K again..

Dude has 10 big blinds. This is basically a hyper turbo.

EZ fold right

Coming from someone who doesn't play poker professionally.

@flyawaytodie You might be uneducated. Just because it appeared that they told him on a tv broadcast doesn't mean he caught on nor does it mean it was that obvious. Its a TV edit. Clue in.

why high five, after a hug... silly. You high five first, and grab their hand and pull them in for a hug

let's hope that this didn't tilt him.

Splitting the pot is not winning the pot.

@@LetsMoveAwayFromUSA-cy4fo knocking someone out of the tourney is though.

He is so awkward. I would bet money he is on the autism/aspergers spectrum. Definitely a narcissist at best.

​@@PW-om1dsThey were both literally announcing to the audience that they had aces. You don't need to see the cards when they tell you what they have.

This was 2007 when things were different. I would have hated it but I would've folded.

its +ev call if you know they both have aces

@@jarkkokettunen200 no it's not. You're still crushed lol.

Yup. But computers won't.

KK is the same as AA or 22 til the cards are turned. Better when both opponents have AA. If thats what he put them both on, that was a solid call. They need a flush to win. Thats like 2% Its just top pair. It didnt pan out... but it was a solid call.

@@gwoody4003 I disagree. If he put them both on two Aces, he had to know that it's still only 20% chance of winning. This is relatively easy to estimate, you have 2 outs at 5 cards so the chance to lose is roughly (1 - 0.05)^5 [2 cards of 46 remaining is about 5%] which again is roughly 75%. Count in that a flush will also kill you since the player with the corresponding Ace will win, and your loss chance goes up to somewhere near 80%. Killing yourself with 80% chance while only having the chance to triple up is suicide. I agree that this is not a perfectly easy calculation to make, but for a poker Pro it should be mathematical basics.

@@felixaquila9701 I wonder if he really did put them both on AA. Cus yeah, AA is likely to be cracked 20% of the time. KK vs AA has 15% odds of winning. Idk how it compounds when there's 2 AA out there or in the case we know the other 2 aces are dead. But if I knew with near certainty both opponents were AA and I had KK, I think I would still make that call. They are already guarenteed top pair... but near improbable to improve beyond top pair. Idk it would really depend on how my day was going. Some days you just have better luck and if I been connecting all day I would probably call it lol. Hindsight is always 2020, and you can't really get bogged down in shoulda coulda thinking in Poker or you will end up timid or on tilt. I noticed a lot of players deep in a tournament seem to get exhausted or bored and wanna get it over with and take gambles they wouldn't in early rounds. Having a guarenteed profit sewed up I am sure has a lot to do with it. 3rd place is a decent payout, I wouldn't be as worried about being wrong like getting cleaned out early would make me.

We know how it turned out and could see everyone's hand, and so its easier to say we would turn that down and it was a bad call. And despite the obvious tells, you never KNOW for sure what they had. If he won we would be praising the genius 4D chess move 🤣. I wish he had won, the Hellmuth meltdown would have been epic. You could tell he was worried a little when those other 2 aces were shown.

@@gwoody4003 "But if I knew with near certainty both opponents were AA and I had KK, I think I would still make that call." - Why? I can see that someone would disregard the possibility of 2x2 Aces because this event is so improbable, but if you were near certain that you had to beat the Aces, and you know that this will only happen in 20% of cases, why would you still do the call? Or why would you make the call depending on previous luck? I mean, I can absolutely understand playing risky when doing recreational poker, but in a tournament, this would just show a lack of mental discipline.

100%

That would have been justice to see that POS lose after all that BS

I'd have had her hand called dead for taking cards off the table

she was definately on coke here

Except a K wouldn't have busted her because she had both players covered.

Would have*

She had aces.

how do you get 52 likes for a comment that makes zero sense ?

​@@stopsheepingso? He would have had a set

@@jamesshaw4272 is someone a little jealous 😂😂🤦‍♂️

Pricesless brainless?

If I remember correctly if he folded it would’ve left hime 6.5 BB. Maybe ICM says fold but idk 🤷‍♂️ Now,these days the poker math wizards probably would’ve folded

​@@jjjrjjjr1being left with 6.5bbs is still way better than going all in in a spot where you know you're absolutely crushed.

I was playing 2 online tourneys at the same time once had pocket aces on both at the same time lost both

Your memory is off. He had 424k left, so 14 big blinds.

She comes across as a bit of a dingbat to begin with.

Glad someone else noticed she was yeeted

Definitely glad someone noticed the drug use

Doyle said most poker pros can count on 1 hand the time they folded kings , this should have been 1 of those times for that kid

lol right! When a player is literally dancing after being called all-in, that's called a 'tell'. If you can't fold KK then, you never can.

@Nick-jb4xi Its a tv edit, relax. She was likely doing that all of the time considering how drunk she was.

Nobody in these comments is noticing that the guy has about 10 big blinds! Helmuth has 8bb! Its a crap shoot donkament you get kings in here all day long.

@@michaeljames3912 80k was a raise wasn't it? So multiply those numbers by 3. So the maths still says call, even if the tells say fold.

With Blinds 15k/30k , 80k committed on raise and less than 8 BB left if fold, you cannot fold even if the opponent show the aces in your face before the call. Simple Math.

@@Alex-uo7th He has to call 424k, pot is 823k, odds vs two AA hands are 20%. Simple math - easy fold.

@@Spailzor Are you sure that your numbers are correct? 424k is the call amount shown based on the stack of the raiser that went all-in, but does he have so much stack? I remember that he had just few BB remainings after the eventual fold. If your numbers are correct, you are right, but i remember him having a much shorter stack.

@@Alex-uo7th It's indeed really hard to understand stack sizes with this information. I try to look at pot size. Before Hellmuth's all-in pot is 661k, after that its 823k, so it looks like he has 162k. Also, his move is shown as all-in, but Shak's raise is shown as 504k, so she has more than anyone. So, it seems that 504k is Richey's stack. Also, when he calls the pot increases by 424k as well - from 823k to 1247k.

@@Spailzor Your numbers seem to adds up and, on this situation, is indeed a fold. The only thing that i'd like to add is that is very hard to assign aces to both opponents. He did a large raise, she went all in (still QQ-AK possible), and Hellmuth instacalled ALL-in with the original raiser that still have to talk (so AA), so it's possible that he assigned only AA to hellmuth, that was less dangerous regarding the stack, and even if lost to Hellmuth, he could have ended in profit with the side pot.. I did a quick MATH (WRONG, BUT NOT BY MUCH) and the chance of that hand dealt preflop is 1/10.793.861 so we can't really blame him for not assigning ACEs to both opponents, while he have kings. IF AA were assigned only to hellmuth (that is a reasonable logical thinking), the decision to call is the right one.

It was the easiest KK fold of all time by the way they were acting

Well, they got the third person in, so who knows, maybe their antics worked ?

When you make it to the final table of the WSOP everything you think you know about tells is actually the opposite. They were trying to give a weakness tell by demonstrating strength tell behaviors to get the call, and it worked.

​@@gordo3582I doubt that. She looked obviously GENUINELY excited

You don't forget it, that's why you'll never be a decent player.

@@danmc8084 agreed, that's why I quit

I did exactly that to someone else! Hope it wasn’t you 😬

Been there, on both sides. After millions of hands it’s just funny…

Phil only had 5.5 big blinds. His hand doesn't matter.

Phil still winning braclets in 2023...

Robbie you do realize that Helthmuth had to improve his game over the years..and if he still played the same way he did back then, he would be getting crushed now a days..meaning the original comment still stands as is.

Back when poker was exciting to watch

@@DefundtheIRS1776 power to you if you like watching a game you should be able to beat in 2023 as a 2/5 player. i would rather see the very best version of the game being played than watching these "characters" with very little concept of how to play.

@@DefundtheIRS1776 keep in mind that there's someone left to act in this hand and in 2023 there would be huge controversy regarding their decision to speak whilst another player has yet to act. this is just amateur hour and it attracts peoplet hat don't understand the game and want to see the characters and the drama. you still have characters, you still have drama, but in 2023 you have much, much better poker players and they have better etiquette

I wasn't, anyone who makes that stupid call deserves to lose

Take it easy, he knows what he's doing

phil vs the frenchman ur refering to xd

I was just noticing that! The garbage we get from poker go is barely watchable. One table only, with the same two camera angles for hours

​@@tonydoinstuffI agree. ESPN's coverage was on a different level to PokerGo. Massive downgrade in cinematic experience. You should never fix what isn't broken.

Sharp 100,000 us dollar to peso

Common sense? A raise A reraise A re re raise all in And she's dancing "I got it I got it " You don't even need common sense to fold that

​@mckmck672 How many times have you folded kings preflop? Both players he is up against would go all in with jacks or queens. Listen to the commentary. "We know she likes to go all in with AQ". Brett also knows and realizes Phil could isolate and hopefully have a weaker pair like jacks or queens.

@@ilove9489 Phill Hellmuth is not going to look at a raise from early position and a reraise all in and snap call with JJs Also no one is going to dance around saying "I got it I got it" with Jack's or queens

@@ilove9489literally any time someone acts like this, let alone 2 players acting like this. 😂 it was blatantly obvious.

I suspect you have no clue what you're talking about

@@tommypatrick166 Yup... trying to spike a king against AA makes no sense.

I mean, that's one way to look at it. It's not a profitable way to look at it, but it still remains a way to look at it.

That's a possible explanation. If the king had hit, everyone would have been calling him brilliant.

Yeah, it's 400k to win well over 1.2M. He only needs to NOT be up against aces, what, 20% of the time for that to be a profitable call? I'm not so sure that was his actual thought process, but it's not a *crazy* thought process.

I have seen quad aces lose to a Royal

Shak is a woman and had AA. How you are completely unaware of this after watching the video is a mystery.

@@zac6499 EXACTLY!