Not so mucn depth but more width that way

I did that numerous times over the years. One time looking everywhere only to discover my glasses on top of my head. 🙄😳

@@davidfromamerica1871 I'm the opposite, I check on top of my head numerous times, like somehow the first couple of times I somehow woulda missed 'em.

@@roofpizza1250 I have always shopped for glasses for comfort first. There have been a couple of times looking for my glasses. I was wearing them..🙄😳😀

Thanks, Gary! That really makes me happy.

Absolutely! Some other factors that will also contribute are baffle width (the narrower the better), room treatment (or a lack thereof) and of course there are also di-pole & bi-pole speakers that can also help to create a larger sense of depth of the soundstage beyond a traditional box speaker, but will often require more space around/behind them.

@@hoth2112 Yes, I agree on those points, but for some music I tend to prefer the sense of depth to a soundstage should be that which was intended by the studio mastering the music with the depth embedded in the audio recording rather than too much ambient reflections added from the room. Making a studio recording sound like a larger room live recording can put some "realism" into the experience but it wasn't truly intended. In fact, much modern music is optimized against the balance you get on earbuds, headphones and desktop systems more than large audio systems (which can be a bummer for us audiophiles, I must say). Thus it's much about personal preference and what specific music taste you have. Unfortunately, I have a diverse taste in music and find myself often realizing a particular music track is not optimum for the way I'm listening e.g. earbud listening at work with large soundstage music optimized for speakers. So I began to make playlists optimized with music for near-field (desktop, earbuds, headphones) vs. ambient speaker setups (like what you are talking about).

That improves the immersion for me too.

100% yes! Eyes open in the dark and the brain creates some amazing “visuals”.

Same

Lucky you 12' ceilings... I can only dream.

Oh yeah. My soundstage is so good I had my eyes closed and the singer literally kicked me in the head. Oh wait that was the wife telling me to turn it down. Mwahahahah! 😂

That works here. I considered replacing my 1980s Dutch Translator Impact 5 towers with Kef LS50 Metas on stands, then I realized the towers have the same height as those stands. So why not use the towers as stands? I tried it and the enhanced 4-speaker system now has great soundstage. A better result than the Translators or the LS50s can deliver on their own, and saving money on stands at the same time. But to be fair it takes a good amplifier to pull it off.

i somehow managed it in my 4x3x2.5m livingroom / pc room (i am a student). its like there is a whole virtual bigger room behind the speakers.

People have been doing that for years if the speakers are heavy. For lightweight Magnepans and other lighter designs you can easily pick them up to move back and forth, no wheels required.

Thanks for that. I don’t like that style of music typically but listen to it through headphones. I can see why you think it. I’ll give it a go later on my system as everyone in the house is still asleep!

@@gumbygreeneye3655 try to stream the version by the Tallis Scholars. The recording is incredible!

I just finished what I could do to get my speakers working right and they sound pretty good - despite not moving everything out of my bedroom and laying down rows of painter's tape. Now I have another problem...after using the tracks on the SACD all my regular CDs now sound flat and lifeless!

Many people DO care about having the metadata that FLAC or ALAC offers. Cover art, track names, album name, etc. It adds to the pleasure and experience of listening. If decompressed properly the result is EXACTLY the same as the original .wav file. Free LOSSLESS Audio Codec is what FLAC stands for and it is. Any decent streamer today can decompress them, even FLAC level 8, on the fly just fine. We are a long way from the early 2000s in processing power. Besides, any GOOD DAC takes the stream and reclocks it after buffering, so the DAC doesn't care that it was once a FLAC file. Storage is cheap now, but not free. The same applies to Internet bandwidth.

Like some aspects of soundstage, there can sometimes be an depth ambiguity that can be resolved in several ways if you concentrate. This is analogous to the Necker Cube (see Wikipedia) optical illusion. I think other aspects of sound stage also can yield to concentration but behave more like a Random Dot Stereogram (also see Wikipedia). Tweaks, whether they are room setup, equipment or visual can create favorable conditions that lower the concentration level required.

That's what most of the KZfaqr review guys always say, so there must be something to it. But why is the question...

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Dac's are completely unnecessary

@@ericschulze5641uh, not exactly unless you want to live in a vinyl or tape world here in 2023.

​@rosswarren436 I returned the one i had from that company that sounds like a bad word "made in usa" it sounded terrible, so what your saying is $200. Isn't enough ? How much before I find one that makes my system sound better than it already does ? $700. , 2K , ?

@@ericschulze5641ah, that would depend on a lot of variables. How good is your system? What is currently your weakest link? How good are your ears and are you a critical listener? How important are these to you: tonality, soundstage width, soundstage depth, and imaging? What connections do you have? Do you want a separate DAC or a combined "streamer/DAC"? Someone could be happy with a $500 DAC or it might take a $2K one on up and up and up to something like a Mola Mola Tambaqui which goes for $9K. Then there are crazy ones even higher in price. For me, I look at my system which currently totals about $12K, which some of those on Audiogon would think was a "mid-fi starter system" compared to their $50K and up ones. But I think it'd be stupid to spend more than about $2K tops for a DAC for my system. I'm likely not going to hear any benefits above that. It'd be like popping $2K for a phono cartridge for a $500 U-Turn Orbit turntable. Good luck to you in your search for a satisfying DAC. After watching numerous KZfaq video reviews, I've come to the conclusion that many of them are hype at best and outright lies at worse to create "buzz" for products. Still, I'm leaning towards the Schiit 2/64 Multibit Bifrost, the Geshelli Labs Dayzee, or taking a chance on a Chi-fi Denafrips Venus II which is an R2R ladder architecture DAC (skipping their entry level Ares II 12th - 1 model and going for one that likely has better bass definition). Which one will I get? At this point I'm not sure.