I have been using the split module for a year and a half now, using GC9N firmware and have been very happy with the performance, the upgrade to Achilie firmware was easy and works very well, I know this has taken a lot of time to develop and I was more than happy to donate thru pay pay, I appreciate the hard work!
@tomrosch86907 жыл бұрын
The update worked flawless. I just followed the creators instructions and everything is fine. The features are awesome, I've been using the stock firmware for half a year now and this makes things so much easier. Props to the creator for spending so much time and work to give us this awesome (and cheap) receivermodule.
@JoshuaBardwell7 жыл бұрын
Be sure to throw him a few bucks via Paypal if you can.
@cmtetaboaco7 жыл бұрын
Now it's officially the BEST module in the market today!
@iMACHINEfpv7 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this update. Good to see your review on it right away. Thanks!
@jaywindlinger12166 жыл бұрын
Great job! After much research I purchased a Fatshark Dominator V3 it just looked better thru my old eyes and for the antenna module I went with the Realacc pro plus with Achilles 2.0 firmware, pagoda 2 and triple feed patch. I am very happy with the way it works . I am sure there are way better goggles out there but I am old and slow now. Thanks for all the great info you are my favorite keep up the great work. Jay
@yksikaksikolmen7 жыл бұрын
I just love the firmware, the ultra mode is soo nice . Very easy to upgrade. And have of course donated.
@ddarkfly7 жыл бұрын
I am using it for few weeks, it is very nice firmware loaded with features.
@HighVoltageProjects7 жыл бұрын
I've had this installed for a couple of weeks now and I gotta say it's proper uped there game! And so easy to update too. Gotta love when the cheaper option is just as good, if not better. Not sure the fan boy's would agree but don't knock something till you tried it ;) Thanks for your vids, great as always.
@raymondwilliams68787 жыл бұрын
I own LaForge. I also owned True-D. Those were really all there was for diversity at the time I got my first set. Right after I bought my first modules did the cheaper versions come out. If I were to buy now, these would definitely get a look! Just the way the event scan function is implemented would make my life so much easier at races. I can admit that, but I'm not a fanboy -- but I do love my LaForge.
@HighVoltageProjects7 жыл бұрын
Raymond Williams I have tried the LaForge firmware on this module but found it very lacking even in comparison with the stock firmware. That's not to say the hardware is bad. I'm open to trying out different options and finding what suits me best, I guess I was lucky enough to have others to try. The Furious looks nice but again I found it lacking. The ultra mode is really very good, super handy and saves a lot of time, lost model is bloody genius but the downside of not being able to get decent doors is pain for lots of ppl. Not for me as I'm using Attitude v2's so had to cut a hole and hack the old module out.
@magemerlyn88877 жыл бұрын
I've been running it for a few weeks and it's great firmware!
@3rd_coast2237 жыл бұрын
Great review...i was on the fence between this and a furious true-d just a couple weeks back. I ended up pulling the trigger on the true-d instead of realacc and am happy with my purchase but after reading through the entire archilles thread on rcgroups believe that the realacc with archilles is a great module at a very reasonable cost. There is no true winner as this has some great features but the true-d 3.5 did perform a bit better and as you say here, in most every day flying the realacc will do just fine. I hope the next revision of true-d will have the "find lost copter" option.
@papofpv.56337 жыл бұрын
thanks on the review im using it for 3 weeks or so its realy good
@jklong036 жыл бұрын
You should see Achilles Plus on the Eachine 58 Pro. I've got "in goggle" OSD! Puts LaForge on their ear.
@weavostigercat20007 жыл бұрын
Hi Josh , I have the same module and I have loaded thei FW really happy with the results and performance ,.Graham .
@ifpo2386 жыл бұрын
I'm going to put Achilles Plus on my Eachine Pro58 module when it arrives. I hope to find that the combo is awesomesauce.
@mrp192857 жыл бұрын
Nice. I might have to make these fit in my teleporters until I can get better ones.
@wyvern45886 жыл бұрын
Downloaded the Achilles V2, good God is it easier to setup vs. the stock "firmware" if you can call it that. So far bench testing with a 50mw with a dipole, I can go on the far end of my house behind all the walls and cover the antennas, and I still get a good picture! Looks like the best $50 I've spent!
@turbomaniafpv74167 жыл бұрын
Excellent results !! Thanks for your insight....
@kawsper7 жыл бұрын
That looks like a very nice interface.
@soulesperanza7 жыл бұрын
If you get the hands on, please test the eachine pro58 diversity for fatshark. ~ 24 dollars. I use it and it works great, I have not compared to other modules, though.
@JoshuaBardwell7 жыл бұрын
+soulesperanza2 but geez it looks so cheap.
@rockcityfpv91177 жыл бұрын
There is a firmware update for this that fixes the diversity problem with the Pro58
@BluegrassMultirotorFPV7 жыл бұрын
I've tried reaching out in the RCG thread, but haven't been able to get much of a reply yet. Where can I get my hands on the fw for it... Got the Pro58 and ST-Link ready to rock, would love to do some testing.
@rockcityfpv91177 жыл бұрын
The only thing you lose is the beeper and the ability to change the channels with the fatshark button but that will be fixed soon.
@billybbob186 жыл бұрын
@@BluegrassMultirotorFPV you'll need to pay for the firmware. It's around 13 bucks. It was well worth it. It fixed the diversity bug where channel b would be automatically favored. Eachine wrote crap software for awesome hardware(32bit STM vs 8bit in all others).
@propularmechanix37057 жыл бұрын
This is Fantastic! Thanks!
@rfmxbr6 жыл бұрын
this firmware will be growth so much more... and now realacc release a new RX5808 with built-in ftdi and usb port.
@FabioKastro7 жыл бұрын
I ordered today the new Pro Plus version. Hopefully i can make it fit on my Att V3s without much trouble
@capt.america71267 жыл бұрын
just a thought for video , why electronics do not work together , exp. just replaced transmitter on my quad everything is getting power checked camera on another quad it works turn on receiver get channel black screen . why some electronics do not work together . and just on different note why don't cameras have led to show operation power .
@JulianGoesPro7 жыл бұрын
Oh it does for sure ;) Just waiting for the top button support (in software, hardware mode isn't that hard)
@mrrius65534 жыл бұрын
does it have audio?
@SaltyFarm6 жыл бұрын
JB, I heard you mention in one of your videos that you were going to see if the Achilles firmware would work inside the Hukiya. I've searched around and couldn't find anything else so I was wondering if you have had the chance to check yet and if so is there anything you know that would help me. Thanks
@SKIDOOSH7 жыл бұрын
Hey Joshua...the MXK 48ch RX5808 also has osd :)
@Ottivad7 жыл бұрын
nice!
@colelandreneau3047 жыл бұрын
You have a video on how it via dvr yet?
@prorezfpvthomashewankorn58796 жыл бұрын
Eachine pro58 with Achillez software we need the steps please
@LAOhiphop7 жыл бұрын
Been searching for a new diversity solution. My furious 2 is complete trash. Been using tbs module and its heads and shoulders above the furious 2. Need that patch tho.
@JuanRodriguezArchitect5 жыл бұрын
No pirx firmware review?? :-(
@danman76657 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a great review! Does the firmware support osd feature? It would be really helpful!
@JoshuaBardwell7 жыл бұрын
OSD in goggle requires additional hardware that is not on the RX5808 module. GC9N has a project where he builds a micro minim OSD into the goggles to provide OSD, but it's not really for the faint of heart.
@foadysfah5 жыл бұрын
I want to buy this FW for my Pro58, but the website has been down for more than a month now and the Dev is not responding anywhere :( Anyone has heard any news? Is George ok?
@JoshuaBardwell5 жыл бұрын
George is fine. He's cut a deal with Furious FPV to put Achilles on the Furious Achilles module. I'm not sure what the status of the open source project is now.
@ZeroFPV7 жыл бұрын
Still on the "normal" GC9N firmware. There I can set a custom boot screen and it works well enough.
@JoshuaBardwell7 жыл бұрын
Whatever makes you happy.
@ZeroFPV7 жыл бұрын
;-D
@dvnstone7 жыл бұрын
I really don't understand the "drift" of a VTx. I can set up the vtx on a certain channel,, yet my VRx pics up the video on multiple channels. How do receivers with dip switches deal with drift?
@JoshuaBardwell7 жыл бұрын
You're not experiencing drift. The channels are just wide enough that they overlap. So if your channel is actually 5800, then if you tune in to 5810, you will see the 5800 channel but it will be weaker. The drift that Achilles deals with is usually caused by heat changing the frequency of the oscillator, and it is only on the order of a MHz or two.
@rolandburrows48596 жыл бұрын
Josh, have the pro plus module and the Achilles firmware. Whenever I power up, the firmware defaults to favorites. If I wanted to change it to ultra, how do I do that?
@JoshuaBardwell6 жыл бұрын
I think you switch to ultra then long-press the dial, then save.
@codmanhaddock6 жыл бұрын
can someone help me i have dom v3's with an achillies module with diversity on either side and as soon as i plug them in to connect they turn of and keep rebooting, i am a noob to fpv have checked the conections they all seem fine.. any ideas?
@gc9n6 жыл бұрын
re download the firmware Achilles V2 and update your module
@sammie_samson7 жыл бұрын
Hello Joshua, First of all, great video as always! But I would like to ask one simple question if I may. I didn't notice that you showed how to add some band and channel that I've manually selected, to the favorites. So would you please be so kind and help me out with that? Because I'm struggling almost all day how to add my selection to the favorites. Thank you very much in advance for your reply! Take care. :)
@JoshuaBardwell7 жыл бұрын
Long Press when the desired frequency is selected. Save to favorites will be in the menu that pops up.
@sammie_samson7 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for your quick reply! But when I'm on the desired frequency and I long press the middle button (I have a "home made custom" diversity module with Achilles 2.0 on it, and it has three buttons instead of a rotary switch) it says saved successfully. But then when I go into favorites I don't know to which favorite number it saved that chosen frequency because it doesn't show me the frequency when I'm in the favorites menu. But don't worry, now as I know how to add it to favorites I will play around and hopefully will find a solution. :)
@Seaweedaids7 жыл бұрын
Any chance of a patch antenna shootout in future? Since running the Achilles firmware I noticed that I get a way higher percentage on my patch if I am using my menacerc invader, than with my fat shark patch. I wonder how the invader compares with some of the other alternatives too.
@JoshuaBardwell7 жыл бұрын
Honestly, it's really hard to do a good antenna test, because there are so many different criteria that make an antenna good or bad. For omni antennas, it's a little easier, but for patch antennas, the difference in beamwidth can make one antenna great for one situation and terrible for another. So you can't just say "this is the best", at least not very easily. Also, testing axial ratio (multipath rejection) is difficult. So I'm not saying it'll never happen, but it's not imminent.
@GoatZilla7 жыл бұрын
You have to carefully plan this sort of testing. I think a construction analysis with basic instrumented bench tests yield the most information. (Kind of like what Bruce Simpson occasionally does.) But most of this "hurrdurr imma randomly fly around in my backyard" "testing" just isn't helpful.
@wyvern45886 жыл бұрын
Everything is subjective so in the case of antennas, stick with whatever works best for YOU.
@devel666x7 жыл бұрын
hi josh i have the firmware n i tryed to update but the pins sliped off mid flash and now i have a bricked unit do u know any way to unbrick the module at all?
@Just-A-Guy-Learning7 жыл бұрын
John Bailey eeprom clear and reflash it
@Shauny_D Жыл бұрын
I have an actual Achilles module v1 and can't find any info on it. Even Achilles site is blank on their v1...
@JoshuaBardwell Жыл бұрын
It's been a loooong time.
@Shauny_D Жыл бұрын
@@JoshuaBardwell yah i think i found an updated app and a couple pages of a manual. But we’ll see… haha
@Hellmuthsilva6 жыл бұрын
Whats the difference from this and the one in your link that is blue?
@JoshuaBardwell6 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure which other one you're referring to
@plainuser485967 жыл бұрын
Why would one use split version instead of integrated and vice versa?
@JoshuaBardwell7 жыл бұрын
The split version is a little more low-profile in the goggles, and some people like having two antennas on the opposite side of their head. The integrated version is easier to install.
@Danimal-3D7 жыл бұрын
Can I take my Attitude V2's and drop in this module? I"ve already replaced the original module with Fat Shark FSV2442 32ch 5G8 Race Band Receiver Module. But -- the Race Band module does not have these features. Just seeing if I could do another mod and get diversity the Achilles
@Danimal-3D7 жыл бұрын
Great info! The V3's have the module hatch where as the V2's do not. I'm not against cutting/ modding the goggles though - -just not sure if I can drop in this Achilles Module on V2's since they're a bit different. May just have to order one and try it :)
@JoshuaBardwell7 жыл бұрын
I don't think Attitude v2 can take a FS module drop-in. I think you have to cut away part of the top of the case. Not 100% sure though.
@Danimal-3D7 жыл бұрын
Right on, thanks for the response Joshua!
@BIGDRONEFLYER77RC7 жыл бұрын
awesome brother, subbed ya. thought I did already.I know I have ya on Instagram. thanks for sharing brother.
@deezpropsfpv78406 жыл бұрын
Ok got a question. I'm running this same exact diversity reciever with achieelies 2.0 but I'm actually running the video feed to an av in on my goggles. Now I notice when it's on antenna A diversity the image looks fantastic, as soon as it switches to antenna b I get a darker screen and slight distortion in the video. Only when diversity is on b. I tried different antennas and recalibrating to eliminate being an antenna issue. I hope my reciever is not going bad. Please help any insight please.
@JoshuaBardwell6 жыл бұрын
This is die to difference in video bandwidth between the modules. This is very difficult to design and manufacture around, and it is something that higher end modules like rapidfire account for.
@deezpropsfpv78406 жыл бұрын
Joshua Bardwell so In simplest form I just got to deal with it or get a new higher end reciever
@scavenger17767 жыл бұрын
Would you say that the module is more energy efficient with the Archilles firmware than the default version.
@JoshuaBardwell7 жыл бұрын
No, not at all. I mean... I haven't verified it, but I've tested a bunch of these modules and they basically pull the same current regardless of what firmware they're running. So I would be really surprised if Achilles was more efficient.
@Nexxus06065806067 жыл бұрын
Good day. Thank you for the excellent video. Explain to me how the receiver firmware can improve its performance. Why did I get better after the firmware? Sincerely .
@JoshuaBardwell7 жыл бұрын
The firmware selects which RF module is being seen, so the decisions it makes can cause performance to be better or worse.
@Nexxus06065806067 жыл бұрын
HUGE THANK YOU - YOU ARE A VERY GOOD AND SMART MAN - GIVE YOU GOD HEALTH AND GOOD LUCK
@polarbearjf7 жыл бұрын
+Joshua Bardwell Please! Tell me will this module work on the Attitude V3, can't find a clear answer anywhere. If not can u suggest a divertity module that works for the V3s? Thaanjs for all ur hard work, keep it up!
@Dropoff5107 жыл бұрын
POLARJFPV the dominator goggles have a taller module bay than the attitudes. So unless you want to cut the top of your attitudes module bay it won't fit.
@porknick7 жыл бұрын
I have att v3 and mine fit just fine. All you have to do is loosen the screw that holds the left side of the goggles halves together and gently squeeze the module in there. Tighten it back up and you're set!
@thekuz19827 жыл бұрын
porknick have you found a 3D Print file for a cover?
@gamerfoo82877 жыл бұрын
Fits reasonably well in the Attitude V3 - that's what I'm using since day one. The trick is that you will need a pin header that extends the pins just a little bit and this way it fits without any modification of the goggles. I think I'll put up a video on that this evening.
@porknick7 жыл бұрын
www.thingiverse.com/thing:2117123
@lonnyharris90376 жыл бұрын
I’m a bit confused with the diversity modules. Will the True-D 3.6 module fit the FatShark Focal DVR Goggles?
@JoshuaBardwell6 жыл бұрын
I would guess yes, because it looks very similar to the Attitude shell and I doubt that they made a whole new mold just for the Focal. You will need the True-D Attitude cover not the one for the other fat sharks.
@agat19736 жыл бұрын
Hi Joshua. I’m trying to install Achilles on the eachine pro58 but my one doesn’t seem to have the solder pads on the front..... is there a workaround for this?
@JoshuaBardwell6 жыл бұрын
I think newer versions of the Pro58 can't have Achilles installed on them.
@agat19736 жыл бұрын
Joshua Bardwell ahhhh bugger. Shall I order the realacc then?
@slothFPV7 жыл бұрын
I assume this works on the hobbyking version, the hbo-dadeda thing
@JoshuaBardwell7 жыл бұрын
I haven't verified this, but I am 99% sure it will work with any of the generic RX5808 modules. If it takes the GC9N firmware, it should take Achilles too.
@riley4x46 жыл бұрын
So I'm having a problem or actually 2. When trying to upgrade to Achilles firmware on my realacc Pro Plus the first problem is I can't find any driver updates for the realacc Pro Plus and my second problem is X loader I can open it up and get my hex file in set my device comport andbaud rate hit the upload button and then it immediately freezes non-responsive any help would be much appreciated.
@JoshuaBardwell6 жыл бұрын
Be sure in Xloader that you have selected the correct type of board (Uno, Nano, etc.) in that pulldown menu. For drivers, I suggest downloading and installing the Arduino app. It comes with drivers that I think will work with your module.
@riley4x46 жыл бұрын
Joshua Bardwell Duemilanove/Nano(ATmega328) is the board that I'm getting from all of the videos and research that I've done I just don't know what I'm doing wrong I'm at a total loss but I definitely appreciate your quick response
@riley4x46 жыл бұрын
I was able to figure it out that program that you told me to get helped with the drivers thank you very much
@ol-man-duffyj6887 жыл бұрын
Josh great video and have the same firmware. My diversity is split across the goggles. I have noticed on the video and guys on the forum saying it favors the patch antenna and almost immediately shows 100% on the patch side. Is this normal? I speculate the answer is yes due to most flying being out in front of us but I did notice in your vid it does the same thing. Favors the patch side.
@JoshuaBardwell7 жыл бұрын
It's favoring the patch because the patch has like a 120 degree beamwidth and 10 dBi of gain. So as long as you are flying in front of yourself, the patch is the right antenna to use.
@ol-man-duffyj6887 жыл бұрын
Joshua Bardwell : thanks for confirming my friend. 👍🏼
@StevenSchoonover6 жыл бұрын
I wish I never installed it... I wish audio would work.
@ronin8869697 жыл бұрын
@Joshua Bardwell Can this be wired into my Quantum Cyclops goggles I wear Thick glasses and cant do the fatshark types but want more RX
@JoshuaBardwell7 жыл бұрын
It takes 5v and has a standard video output. It is technically possible to wire it into your quanum goggles.
@ronin8869697 жыл бұрын
Then it should be pretty easy ! the Receiver inside is 5v! My reception is actually better than my Eachine VR D2 and fit more comfortably ! But more is better ! I may give it a try and maybe a dvr
@petermabbort4567 жыл бұрын
Hey Josh. I've got he original Relaac that first came out. The split system too. How do I know if my module is compatible? Cheers, Peter
@JoshuaBardwell7 жыл бұрын
Hmmm I guess I would just try to flash it and see what happens.
@assimeon7 жыл бұрын
yes it does,the only difference with the next batches was a 6.5mhz resonator www.google.gr/search?q=resonator+6.5mhz&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiPvfm42ovVAhXIMhoKHZGJDqkQ_AUIBigB&biw=1360&bih=662#imgrc=uRI4oWLXBhbkcM: that has no influence in the firmware we have tested it
@chris.peters7 жыл бұрын
ive got the split and the upgraded firmware works just fine
@28daballa7 жыл бұрын
Will this fit in my Attitude v4?
@JoshuaBardwell7 жыл бұрын
I believe that Attitude v4 does not fit standard sized fatshark modules, but the Furious v3.5 says it fits. So I guess the answer is maybe, I don't know.
@loctuantran7 жыл бұрын
Have you tried to flash it on Holybro?
@JoshuaBardwell7 жыл бұрын
No, but I'm told it should work.
@gc9n7 жыл бұрын
Joshua Bardwell no it will not work. I am fixing the firmware specifically for this module
@Crisposhot7 жыл бұрын
is it compatible with attitude series? or just dominator
@JoshuaBardwell7 жыл бұрын
I always assume that a Fatshark module won't fit Attitudes without modification unless somebody specifically tells me otherwise. I haven't been able to verify this one. I guess I could try it in the Attitude v4.
@glen.d64357 жыл бұрын
You need to undo the screws that hold the 2 halves of the goggles together. Take off the face plate. Separate the 2 halves enough that the module will fit in. tighten screws again. The goggles case will apply enough pressure on the module that it wont come out. You will have a wider join gap in the goggles at one end but thats ok
@glen.d64357 жыл бұрын
It fits v3's if you follow the steps i listed above. Got it in my Attitude v3's and works fine. The 3D printed covers wont fit unless you cut off the mounting tabs and double side tape it to the module (not required as the module will not come out. But did it for added screen protection)
@glen.d64357 жыл бұрын
I did say there will be a small gap at one end, but they are in there and working fine. And have been for 6 months. If you don't want a slight gap that does not affect anything and cant really tell unless your looking for it, then don't do it. Just trying to answer a question Bro. The fact is you can get it to work which is the point of his question I believe. Yes the bay is too small.
@marksherman6307 жыл бұрын
Does this software work in the Eachine Pro58?
@JoshuaBardwell7 жыл бұрын
I really would expect it to work with almost all of the RX5808 modules out today. The exception would be a few of the Big Boys who have made improvements to the module that break compatibility. If it can take the GC9N firmware, it'll take Achilles.
@marksherman6307 жыл бұрын
Just did a search and it appears the Pro58 doesn't have a way to flash new firmware! Too bad.
@MrTheguywiththemoney7 жыл бұрын
Joshua Bardwell the pro58 uses a stm32F1 not a atmega328p chip like everyone else. It would have to be ported, so the short answer is no it will not work
@Wtf_drone_productions6 жыл бұрын
does this mdule have to be used with fatsharks or is it possible to mod it to fit into a pair of box goggles? i think so but just wondering if anyone has tried it?
@gc9n6 жыл бұрын
Everywhere you like !
@Wtf_drone_productions6 жыл бұрын
? do you mean any goggle i want? like i could solder this up to my eachine ev800's and use this module instead of the factory installed one?
@Wtf_drone_productions6 жыл бұрын
thanks
@gc9n6 жыл бұрын
If you know what you doing yes. Why shouldn't, it has video out and needs only 5v just find the pin out of the fatsharks pins. Goggle it.
@Wtf_drone_productions6 жыл бұрын
sweet thanks! at the surface this stuff seems so difficult and scare, but if you read a little and look carefully it turns out to be straight forward. i was thinking that there was something special in the goggle to make it work. i haven't held one of these modules in my hands yet to play with. i will soon though! thanks again.
@LeoVasquez7 жыл бұрын
Wow, sure seems like you gotta do alot just to save about $40. Not everyone is a geek.
@JoshuaBardwell7 жыл бұрын
Yup. But some people are geeks, and for them, maybe $40 is more than worth it. To each his own.
@kentboehm19817 жыл бұрын
If you think updating the firmware on a module is for 'geeks' I am not sure how you are managing to get by in this hobby! ;-) Honestly it is very straightforward and 40 bucks goes a pretty long way these days. You could almost use it to upgrade to a runcam eagle 2 for example.
@LeoVasquez7 жыл бұрын
Listen, for a new person, having to watch a confusing video, buy some parts, read some long and confusing instructions, and then figure it all out when you can spend an extra $30-$40 is not the best advice to give someone that is getting into this hobby. And he also states he is a paid Amazon Associate is also why he recommends this ridiculous process. Sorry you got your little geek feelings hurt.
@kentboehm19817 жыл бұрын
Leo Vasquez Josh is always very upfront about affiliate links. Considering the significant time he has put into reviewing many other modules available on the market I think it's pretty safe to say he's not recommending this module just for the Amazon kickback. Many people are very happy to do a bit of tinkering to save 40 bucks, so why wouldn't he make a video about it? Sure there are people who would rather their gear not need any extra efforts and are happy to pay for that. Still, this module isn't a bad option. I've used it with the stock firmware for a year now and it's been great. this firmware is just a nice bonus. As Josh said, to each his own.
@skelldogTalo6 жыл бұрын
Leo, if you can't follow such easy and useful instructions then you won't go far in this hobby, seriously. You always need to have clever ideas to solve your quad problems.
@Dobemandan7 жыл бұрын
This firmware is fantastic! Been using it for almost a month now.