Active Sky XP 12 vs X-Plane 12 | Weather Generation

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In this X-Plane 12 video, we conduct a series of tests to compare the weather generated by Active Sky XP 12 vs X-Plane 12 built-in weather generation engine to determine which of the two is more accurate. Please do note that this video is not a feature or tutorial video, but rather a comparison overview to determine which engine produces more accurate weather in X-Plane 12.
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@Thrust-Set-Simulations
@Thrust-Set-Simulations Жыл бұрын
Your results are pretty much in line with what I have seen. Another thing that AS seems to be at is downloading and using the most recently available metals. Compare the times of the metars being used and you will see what I mean. I have also seen quite different Wx depiction between AS and XP, again with AS being more correct. I also really like the VATSIM Wx feature as pretty much all my flights on done on VATSIM. One last thing, if you start AS before XP, manual Wx will be automatically selected.
@Q8Pilot
@Q8Pilot Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and for watching the video Bill!
@iain8837
@iain8837 10 ай бұрын
It’s a pity AS gave a free upgrade to XP11 users but didn’t email the users “as it risks going in your spam folder” so they say.
@oleisaksen9350
@oleisaksen9350 Жыл бұрын
Metars generally only gives you clouds up to 10 - 12000 ft agl. For a weather engine to be exact it should include both the general forecast and the metar, not just one or the other.
@Q8Pilot
@Q8Pilot Жыл бұрын
Even with that, Active Sky provided more accurate weather. It is Beta and still needs work, but generally speaking it provides better results. Thanks for watching!
@marknovak9310
@marknovak9310 Жыл бұрын
I don't think that is correct. Check any METAR with clouds in the USA and you will see clouds listed at much higher elevations, if they exist.
@mogumogu3686
@mogumogu3686 Жыл бұрын
Excellent review... Thank you Q8Pilot👍👍👏👏
@Q8Pilot
@Q8Pilot Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching my friend!
@0321Sjoerd
@0321Sjoerd Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your excellent work and continuing stream of excellent content!
@Q8Pilot
@Q8Pilot Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@Felipeozzy
@Felipeozzy Жыл бұрын
Great content as always, keep it up!
@Q8Pilot
@Q8Pilot Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your kind words and for watching the video!
@smaze1782
@smaze1782 Жыл бұрын
This doesn’t surprise me. I loved active sky in XP 11 so this makes sense. Thank you for the excellent comparison.
@Q8Pilot
@Q8Pilot Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@phjo5117
@phjo5117 Жыл бұрын
Thanks very much Q8 for this excellent short comparison. Not sure which way I'll go at this stage, was a user of AS for XP 11 and still looking at how far we get with XP 12 without too many addons. As I don't fly on VATSIM, exact weather (the definition of which is obviously subject to some debate...) is not as crucial for me, so I might stick to XP weather for now. On another note, LR need to keep working on those cloud aspects and textures: interestingly in your first example XP weather shows cirrus clouds on the weather panel but in the sim they look like puffy cumulus. Again many thnaks for all your very well balanced and thoughtful work. Cheers
@Q8Pilot
@Q8Pilot Жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to share your experience. The upgrade is free, and you can turn off VATSIM weather. Try it out and if you don't like it, don't use it I suppose. Thanks again for your continued support.
@lordchive8944
@lordchive8944 Жыл бұрын
Excellent comparison!
@Q8Pilot
@Q8Pilot Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@skson5838
@skson5838 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing this comparison. It would have been fair to mention that ActiveSky for xp12 is still in beta and I'm sure the developers will improve it further before initial release.
@Q8Pilot
@Q8Pilot Жыл бұрын
I think you are right, and yes it is still in Beta and it is the very first beta. I should have mentioned that, but my bad.
@protovack
@protovack Жыл бұрын
its impossible to get 100% exact weather. just because it matches the local airport, doesn't mean it's "more accurate". things shift all the time. as long as its close, it works. what matters a lot more is how it feels to fly in, and how it looks through the window.
@gfar4964
@gfar4964 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, I have used Active sky in XP11, and will now get the upgrade to XP12.
@Q8Pilot
@Q8Pilot Жыл бұрын
Happy flying my friend!
@benjamincasey6617
@benjamincasey6617 Жыл бұрын
You have the most distinctive voice of flight sims. It's been so many years I've watched you , thank you bro.
@Q8Pilot
@Q8Pilot Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your continued support and watching the video!
@maverik19671
@maverik19671 Жыл бұрын
Great video....thanks for the review
@Q8Pilot
@Q8Pilot Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@leiflavebrink9639
@leiflavebrink9639 Жыл бұрын
Dear Friend, Again, again and again you create invaluable material that is of maximum benefit to all of us in the community. Only you can perform these honest assessments, evaluations and insightful analyses. What a relief that you have now confirmed what I suspected for a long time. When I fly on Vatsim, I am usually the only one who has a certain weather and wind, which causes problems and I have occasionally had to disconnect. That's why I'm usually back to XP11 and xEnviro which gives the right data and a fair presentation. With ActiveSky for XP12, part of those issues seems to be solved in a good way. Just a shame that we seem to need a bunch of plug-ins even for XP12, also for the bare essentials. The weather presentation also needs to be solved for XP12 to feel realistic. Getting accurate weather data and realistic weather presentation is absolutely critical in flight simulation with no room for compromise. Thank you for all the effort and time spent which adds enormous value. This was another masterpiece by the master himself.
@Q8Pilot
@Q8Pilot Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your kind words and for sharing your experience Leif. Appreciate it!
@greghellems5101
@greghellems5101 Жыл бұрын
In my experience with ASXP so far, it wasn’t accurately depicting winds aloft. It just the surface winds from the METAR all the way through the flight levels. It’s also not depicting high level clouds. I loaded at my real life location the other day XP12 weather was much more accurate than ASXP. I think they still have some work to do. XP12 might still be a little behind but seems to be more accurate overall.
@darcyb19681
@darcyb19681 Жыл бұрын
As ussually excelent video!! Thanks a lot! Specially now I know it's possible free upgrade for active sky. Thanks once again!
@Q8Pilot
@Q8Pilot Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@davecat1458
@davecat1458 Жыл бұрын
Good review Q! Just purchased. On sale as well 30% off.
@Q8Pilot
@Q8Pilot Жыл бұрын
Happy flying my friend!
@egemukan
@egemukan Жыл бұрын
Hello buddy, Thank you very much for this informative video.
@Q8Pilot
@Q8Pilot Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching and for your support!
@Chikyel
@Chikyel Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video
@Q8Pilot
@Q8Pilot Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@Thomas22may
@Thomas22may Жыл бұрын
Was the opening pan during the intro done from LSZM (formerly LSMF)? Very much looks like it Also thanks for all the content, really enjoy watching your videos :)
@Q8Pilot
@Q8Pilot Жыл бұрын
Yes it was! Thanks for watching!
@Thomas22may
@Thomas22may Жыл бұрын
@@Q8Pilot Awesome, I thought it was, looks too familiar to not be, I would have been surprised if it wasn't, very cool seeing my local GA airport in you video :)
@davejones542
@davejones542 Жыл бұрын
good review, but why in the world are there so many buttons on asxp12 when you just want one which is current weather on or off.
@Nighthawk9611
@Nighthawk9611 Жыл бұрын
Can you make an autoOrtho installation video for X-Plane 12?
@tombulva
@tombulva Жыл бұрын
It is a pity that the new ASXP12 is not backwards compatible with XP11, which was the intention of the publisher at the beginning of the product release, and from which they unfortunately had to withdraw. I believe this is a temporary inconvenience and will be resolved in the near future. Currently, people using XP11 and testing XP12 (testing, because when flying in VR, XP12 is not a "finished" product) must install the old or new version of ASXP each time, depending on which sim they use ;-)
@Q8Pilot
@Q8Pilot Жыл бұрын
The product is in Beta, so probably some improvements are coming.
@ChrisHargreaves2
@ChrisHargreaves2 Жыл бұрын
I just wanted to contribute something quickly in regards to the wind direction accuracy, not speaking to the overall accuracy discussion between XP12 and ASXP12. Wind direction in a METAR is based on true north, and in an ATIS/AWOS is magnetic north. In your example of Valdez airport (PAVD), there is 19 degrees of variation to the E between true and magnetic north. This means that in the simulator weather depiction, 100% accuracy at PAVD would show a 19 degree difference between what is being depicted in the simulator and what the METAR says.
@grey_8797
@grey_8797 Жыл бұрын
Hey, loving the videos! I’m thinking about purchasing X plane 12 and I was wondering if I have to completely repurchase my payware aircraft from X plane 11 for X plane 12?
@Q8Pilot
@Q8Pilot Жыл бұрын
Some aircraft are free upgrade some require an upgrade fee. Check the product page of your favorite aircraft to be sure.
@grey_8797
@grey_8797 Жыл бұрын
@@Q8Pilot thanks for the help! If it doesn’t say if it’s a free upgrade or not and it just says for xp11 and 12 is that the same as a free upgrade?
@Aleksandar6ix
@Aleksandar6ix 11 ай бұрын
Have you had a chance to look at AS with Xplane's new cloud depictions? What's it like?
@Q8Pilot
@Q8Pilot 11 ай бұрын
It is improved a lot since this video but still needs some work especially cirrus clouds.
@tomrach8092
@tomrach8092 3 ай бұрын
And the clouds change smoothly, e.g. there is little cloud cover and the next METAR reading shows CAVOK? Is it like in xp11 that suddenly everything disappears?
@F.A.S.D
@F.A.S.D Жыл бұрын
Hello mr Q8 sir, i'm really hooked with your review for this plugin and decide that i want to bought it. But if I may ask sir, currently there are 2 product in store AS for XP11 and AS for XP12. My question is, can I just buy one of the product and use the same license key for both product? Or do I have to buy all of them for their own each license key? Thank you very much in regards sir. Please reply
@Q8Pilot
@Q8Pilot Жыл бұрын
No the license can be used for only 1 version.
@irenenowak8155
@irenenowak8155 7 ай бұрын
Nice vidéo as Always but for me Active Sky IS not a major Addon for XP 12 as it was for Xp11. Don't loose money for that !
@CryptoBlog230
@CryptoBlog230 Жыл бұрын
the intro still reminds me of Matt Davies
@JehadHamdan
@JehadHamdan Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your video. As per my understanding and I have been old user of AS, AS uses METAR source only and then interpolate the weather data to upper layer which is limited and not accurate specially on low airports area; however, XP12 is using METAR source for airports weather and NOAA grid weather for upper layer which gives more accurate weather at upper layer. I am not sure why XP12 showed wrong data at airport maybe a bug.
@Q8Pilot
@Q8Pilot Жыл бұрын
It could be a bug, but it was the case for all the 10 tests I performed before making the video.
@mrmangosir
@mrmangosir Жыл бұрын
Nice comparison. But once you've introduced its xp12 and active sky 12, just say the version number all the time isn't necessary and can get irritating.
@Q8Pilot
@Q8Pilot Жыл бұрын
Noted with thanks!
@martinwhite1715
@martinwhite1715 Жыл бұрын
The first set of METAR have observed at 1530 UTC and it was compared to one at 1500 UTC The second set was observed at 1556 UTC and compared to one at 1456? A lot can happed during that time difference when it comes to weather? Am I missing something?
@Q8Pilot
@Q8Pilot Жыл бұрын
You are missing something. The tests were done at the same time but time in sim is not set to real time.
@Glasairmell
@Glasairmell Жыл бұрын
They did not send out emails on the free upgrade and i do not follow social media. Missed that as I was out of town. I liked the program a lot in XP11. 42.86 USD is just too expensive for what it provides. Almost the cost of the simulator itself.
@Q8Pilot
@Q8Pilot Жыл бұрын
They sent out an email regarding this upgrade. Not sure you hadn't received it.
@Glasairmell
@Glasairmell Жыл бұрын
@@Q8Pilot Yes, I have to take responsibility for missing the opportunity. They made no mention of an email. Quoted from their support. "This information was posted on May 8th, 2023 on our Homepage News, Support Forum, Facebook and even in the News Window in The ASXP/12 User Interface". I figured a coupon would at least be in order as a compromise. No biggie.
@Yonlawlawlaw
@Yonlawlawlaw Жыл бұрын
The bad thing is that you can not use simultaneously Active sky in xp11 and xp 12 you have one option use it in xp11 or xp12
@nealparry
@nealparry Жыл бұрын
Yes you can, check the HiFi forum for instructions.
@somil07
@somil07 Жыл бұрын
Usual marketing aside, you could have given a slight bit of attention to abrupt weather transitions based on current conditions in active cell at plane's location which goes against the principle of having a global weather model.
@Q8Pilot
@Q8Pilot Жыл бұрын
That's a good point, thank you!
@bobblack4604
@bobblack4604 8 ай бұрын
Is there any weather add on for xplane12 that shows falling white snow? The falling snow in xplane12 is black. xplane11 had good snow effects why not xplane12?
@Random_Flight_Database
@Random_Flight_Database 11 ай бұрын
Hello my friend, do you plan to make a video about visualxp soon? Thanks
@Q8Pilot
@Q8Pilot 11 ай бұрын
I bought it this morning but honestly I don't like what it does to the lights. The fog is not done well. I might revisit again. Are you looking to buy it?
@Random_Flight_Database
@Random_Flight_Database 11 ай бұрын
@@Q8Pilot Yes, I'm still hesitating. When I see some of the images, it's really appealing. I did read on Facebook that there was a problem with the lights, but maybe that will be fixed in a future update. Unfortunately there aren't many videos on this plugin so I'll wait a little longer before making up my mind.
@Q8Pilot
@Q8Pilot 11 ай бұрын
I would suggest you wait. It needs work still.@@Random_Flight_Database
@hiddenmonkeyofdoom
@hiddenmonkeyofdoom Жыл бұрын
I will stick with stock, because stock takes in more than just metars and using metars as your sole based judgement of the weather is highly inaccurate. Metars are only up to 12k AGL and less than 5 miles around airport. Also ActiveSky will fall prey to the fact that the APIs LR exposed for third party devs is purely tied to the current weather station, so no proper weather fronts.
@Q8Pilot
@Q8Pilot Жыл бұрын
The comparsion I provide suggests that Active Sky is providing more accurate weather for metars. On that account it is more accurate and my judgment is strictly on metar data as I have clearly indicated.
@angelicguru4066
@angelicguru4066 Жыл бұрын
Why did you just compare the metars and not the general weather-conditions above? As far as i know ASXP is much less realistic in that regard for now.
@Q8Pilot
@Q8Pilot Жыл бұрын
All the data I have interrogated shows more accurate results with Active Sky XP 12. Cloud layer, Cloud Cover, Temperature, QNH, surface wind. I think ASXP is still missing winds aloft, but overall I find it more accurate.
@angelicguru4066
@angelicguru4066 Жыл бұрын
@@Q8Pilot Yes the metar-datas are more accurate. But did you also compare the high altitude clouds? And did you notice that when a new metar got « catched » the whole sky gets the clouds from this metar and the previous clouds behind you disappear? Thats why i think that for now, the default weather is better than ASXP.
@mcshiggitypilot5901
@mcshiggitypilot5901 Жыл бұрын
Just my thought that why can't Laminar inject real weather just as well if not better than Active sky? Why do we have to have so many addons?
@Q8Pilot
@Q8Pilot Жыл бұрын
That is something I always wondered about my self. Good point!
@pvmatos250
@pvmatos250 5 ай бұрын
Is there any possibility to use the AS on the macOS ?
@Q8Pilot
@Q8Pilot 5 ай бұрын
I don't think so.
@dub2967
@dub2967 11 ай бұрын
Is the update to AS XP12 still free for previous users?
@Q8Pilot
@Q8Pilot 11 ай бұрын
No I don't think so. The offer expired.
@demontraitor69
@demontraitor69 Жыл бұрын
On my flight today from LPPT to EGKK running XP12 and ASXP12 I could see snow on the south coast of UK... 🫤
@Louis_Delgres
@Louis_Delgres Жыл бұрын
What do you think about ShadeX?
@Q8Pilot
@Q8Pilot Жыл бұрын
In all honesty, I think it does what it promises to do, but it is useless in my view.
@gjoillinois
@gjoillinois Жыл бұрын
Hi can you tell me how to update the airac of active sky, I have subscription with navigraph. Regards
@Q8Pilot
@Q8Pilot Жыл бұрын
Download the FMS manager from navigraph. Once open, go to addons and use "Scan for Addons". It will automatically detect your installation. Click save, and then update your AIRAC.
@gjoillinois
@gjoillinois Жыл бұрын
@@Q8Pilot Thanks for the support airac active sky updated .
@omarflight5412
@omarflight5412 Жыл бұрын
Good video but I think the clouds in msfs it's better
@Q8Pilot
@Q8Pilot Жыл бұрын
Yes the weather representation in MSFS is much better I have to agree with you.
@rafapiloto195
@rafapiloto195 Жыл бұрын
There is any alternative for this Active Sky?
@Q8Pilot
@Q8Pilot Жыл бұрын
There is xEnviro but what don't you like about active sky?
@Sh4d0s
@Sh4d0s Жыл бұрын
So thats pretty much a no brainer for user who already have AS XP11.
@kam_a3216
@kam_a3216 Жыл бұрын
Hi Captain - 1st and foremost many thanks for taking time out of your busy life to create this comparison. I do own AS but currently am not using it as it blocks flow of METAR data in planes that are ATSU/AOC equipped.(as a VR flyer that system comes very handy). I recently discovered NOAA weather injection which also now allows for METAR data to appear n the Avitab . I have not done a detailed comparison as you have here but so far I like the results. Would love to get your opinion on that. This is what I am using in XP12 : github.com/biuti/XplaneNoaaWeather/releases/tag/v3.2.1
@Aviatn11
@Aviatn11 Жыл бұрын
Do you know anything about the ff777v2 and when it’s coming? Sorry if you don’t. I’ve looked on the instagram already
@Q8Pilot
@Q8Pilot Жыл бұрын
I only know it is work in progress =)
@Aviatn11
@Aviatn11 Жыл бұрын
@@Q8Pilot ok thankyou :)
@decendx
@decendx 10 ай бұрын
You are lucky.I deleted all ToLiSs aircrafts because after I finish one flight with it and switched to another aircraft throttle does not work.
@Q8Pilot
@Q8Pilot 9 ай бұрын
Never had issues with Toliss. One of the most stable addon for XP12.
@decendx
@decendx 9 ай бұрын
@@Q8Pilot Sadly I have XP11 because XP12 lags in my PC.
@rangerrick8220
@rangerrick8220 Жыл бұрын
What really bothers me are the fake puffy cottonball type of clouds that Xplane 12 makes. And does Active Sky use alot of FPS slowing down the computer?
@Q8Pilot
@Q8Pilot Жыл бұрын
I haven't seen any performance hit from Active Sky.
@louie0683
@louie0683 Жыл бұрын
Hello Q8 Pilot! If you don’t mind me asking, what do you do for a profession? I am deciding what path in life I’d like to take regarding my college major of choice. I am aware that Embry Riddle University has a very good aviation program, and would like to know if you have any college experience, what have you studied? What is your work life like? Is aviation a part of what you do for a living, or just a hobby? I’d love to know a little more about yourself, thank you! If you aren’t comfortable answering this publicly, perhaps we could exchange emails/discuss 101? Kind Regards - Louis
@Q8Pilot
@Q8Pilot Жыл бұрын
I hold a degree in Computer Science, a minor in Mathematics, and work in Information Technology in the banking sector.
@louie0683
@louie0683 Жыл бұрын
@@Q8Pilot Wonderful! Thanks for letting me know and great videos!
@flightvision
@flightvision Жыл бұрын
Sorry but that misses a lot of depth. How long after the METAR has been issued have you done your test? Could it be that XP just had the previous METAR? That has nothing to do with accuracy. It is by design in XP.
@Q8Pilot
@Q8Pilot Жыл бұрын
The times between checking and METAR issuance was taken into consideration. I have done more than 10 tests all together, but I only show the results for 2. The results are always the same.
@flightvision
@flightvision Жыл бұрын
@@Q8Pilot Have you checked if XP12 depicts a little older (30-45 min) METAR? I am finding at least the METAR depiction very accurate in respect to VATSIM (which also delays METARs by ~20min). I find the XP12 weather lacking more in local variation like believable thermal locations and strengths and Cu over lakes and lower ground where it should have more over mountains etc. but that is something that ActiveSky does not solve either yet in X-Plane.
@Q8Pilot
@Q8Pilot Жыл бұрын
@flightvision I suspected that this might be the case yes.
@geofflawrence8995
@geofflawrence8995 Жыл бұрын
What is "accurate' data? Numbers on a meter and in a piece of software match? I would be much more interested on what the Visual Differences are! Can the average pilot SEE any monstours differences? Look. feel, quality of then experience should be the key factors. I find this take interesting when your earlier take basically said you could not really SEE any meaningful difference!
@Q8Pilot
@Q8Pilot Жыл бұрын
Visual difference? Have you really watched the examples I show in the video? Two examples clearly showing the visual difference.
@luftbilderhd
@luftbilderhd Жыл бұрын
It’s horrible to watch those 4K videos on mobile devices. Those tiny fonts within the settings windows are unreadable. Please enlarge overlay windows (like ActiveSky in this case) or reduce recording resolution.
@justbob588
@justbob588 Жыл бұрын
I'd recommend turning the video quality on your mobile device down to 1080p
@luftbilderhd
@luftbilderhd Жыл бұрын
@@justbob588 I know what you mean, but this doesn't help. With 1080p the resolution is getting lower of course, but due to the Q8pilots recording setup (i.e. tiny windows on a big screen) the texts and menus in the video won't get bigger or "better" with a 1080p resolution on a mobile device.
@justbob588
@justbob588 Жыл бұрын
@@luftbilderhd Ah I see what you mean now. Yeah that wouldn't help.
@simonsmedley5434
@simonsmedley5434 11 ай бұрын
I purchased this software and what a total waste of money it turned out to be. It works for about two minutes and then all clouds disappear leaving clear weather only! What a rip off!
@Q8Pilot
@Q8Pilot 11 ай бұрын
You need to change the weather to Manual weather from the XPlane weather settings.
@simonsmedley5434
@simonsmedley5434 11 ай бұрын
@@Q8Pilot Thanks very much for replying Q8. I have set weather to manual and it still happens. Works for about five minutes then the clouds disappear and I am left with just clear weather. I have gone back to XPlanes weather as I am totally fed up trying to get Activesky to work. Have a great evening my friend!
@olasaven245
@olasaven245 Жыл бұрын
Xp12 own wx engine sucks. If fly in scandinavia during winter time you will experience 100 % frozen taxiways and runways. You should have studded tires in order to turn your aircraft proberly , arrgh! And icing effect is absolutely grazy, nothing to do with conditions of IRL. And metars, omg , total crap I dont fly with xp12 anymore, bored with wx engine😢
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