Adeptus Mechanicus are Looking SCARY Again?
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Күн бұрынLet's talk about the big Admech changes in the Balance Dataslate, and the big damage that the omnissiah's servants can unleash...
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0:00 Intro
2:12 Core Rules Changes
3:53 Doctrina Imperative
8:20 Skitarii + Kataphrons
10:01 Ruststalkers
11:24 Other Squads
12:50 Improved Vehicle Datasheets
18:12 Belisarus Cawl
19:38 Other Vehicles + Characters
22:16 Closing Thoughts + Outro
@H-aruspex 14 күн бұрын
From the moment I understood the weakness of my codex, it disgusted me. I craved the strength and certainty of the Balance Dataslate.
@nanapoltjoj 13 күн бұрын
I aspires to the purity of 3+.
@graves8389 13 күн бұрын
I craved the strength and certainty of the +1 BS
@The_Penguin_8964 13 күн бұрын
Your kind cling to your Codex and Index, as though it will not decay and fail you...
@Sir_Tomoyuki 13 күн бұрын
@@The_Penguin_8964 But I am already safe, for the balance update is immortal.
@graves8389 13 күн бұрын
@@Sir_Tomoyuki *Angry nerd scream with robotic background*
@danielhan4537 14 күн бұрын
Ad Mech, gets good, wins 1 tournament, GW: NERF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@powderedtoastman-boogas9445 14 күн бұрын
Till then might as well enjoy it! 😅
@chrisspyroman 14 күн бұрын
Nerfing without balance dataslate means points increase Which is an absolute win with the rules change we got now
@MantisTobaggon69 14 күн бұрын
How it feels to be a grey knights player rn lol
@jproductions7469 13 күн бұрын
And Necrons got off with a slap on the wrist
@JohnBryett-wt9uj 13 күн бұрын
It's better for the faction now because they were playing like knockoff guard and admech were rediculously expensive to collect to the point getting a warhound titan was cheaper than to fill out 1000pts. And all of their rules and weapons got buffs so its more of a rework than a nerf
@sheldonobrien4358 14 күн бұрын
Let's take a moment of this Admech coverage to recognize Auspex as a blessed machine switched over to conqueror's imperative for this dataslate.
@Cannonhead 14 күн бұрын
I swear, every other sentence of this video had me doing a miniature evil laugh. I am so psyched to have some games with my AdMech now.
@GM-rs2fv 13 күн бұрын
Finally brother
@cigman777 13 күн бұрын
BY THE OMNISSIAH WE’RE FUCKING BACK
@saintmayhem9873 14 күн бұрын
I'm not weeping. I'm looking to the sky scanning for the inevitable GW nerfhammer.
@EmperorNapoleon1815 13 күн бұрын
I’ve been so invested in my Tyranids this edition, I have let my Ad Mech fall to the wayside. Now, both of my factions, chitin and machine, have risen mightily. Time for battle!
@lt.danhooper1635 13 күн бұрын
Meanwhile the Guard twiddling their thumbs waiting to not just be "Dorn spam"
@Cyberbooli 14 күн бұрын
Update: Admech no longer positively fuming.
@mycatistypingthis5450 13 күн бұрын
Au contraire, they revved up their engines and positively started fuming joyous irradiated smoke.
@reginlief1 13 күн бұрын
Just from a fun perspective, Cawl being able to make himself a battleline unit and trigger other battleline adjacency effects feels so fluffy and is exactly the kind of army rule interaction I want from 40k’s design. I’m really happy to specifically see that effect.
@vineheart01 14 күн бұрын
Most things went up slightly but i am fine with that because ADMECH IS NOT A HORDE ARMY DAMN IT! THey got a lot of buffs. New doctrines are just rude, striders double the shots and sustained1, crawler guns better, etc etc. I need to actually crack open that box holding my admech that have been sitting there for well over 2 years.
@0XFallen 12 күн бұрын
Changes are a good start, but they are still a hoard and the most expensive army by far. Combat patrol is also still under 300points
@vineheart01 12 күн бұрын
@@0XFallen Oh for sure this isnt enough to completely fix them. I agree theyre still too hordy. Some units still got nothing and thus are still in a weird spot, their detachments are largely meh, and the two doctinas are so different it might be hard to include certain units at the same time. Im not competitive though so i dont care if theyre amazing i just want them to be fun and not auto-lose bad.
@The_Penguin_8964 11 күн бұрын
@@vineheart01 According to nowaday's points, I'll say that that hordest detachment is still (unsurprisingly) Hunter Cohort, but in a MUCH different way🤔 But let's say that you just want something looks cool and actually do damages, almost all detechments can do this right now (except Rad-Zone Corp, no one loves it btw🙄) 👍🏻so yeah, feel free to try more possibly on your flavour, as things start gets better now😆
@warnschnick0126 10 күн бұрын
@@The_Penguin_8964 Rad Zone Corps has/had a Playerbase. It's one of the better detachments if you play around its strength. But the change to double use Stratagems really limited some of its more fun combos.
@ianstraiton21 13 күн бұрын
Cawl getting an 8" move means that he can keep up with ruststalkers and use his cantile to get battleline to give them +2 to charge.
@JacobTONeill 13 күн бұрын
I got to play a game with the updated AdMech today, and we're looking good boys! Ballistarii be BLASTIN, ruststalkers be SLASHIN, infiltrators be BLOCKIN, and the new doctrines feel really good. Admittedly, I did only use conqueror, but that +1 AP is a game changer on so many profiles.
@scottamelville 14 күн бұрын
And that's why you don't buy the physical codex
@kennetheisenbraun5217 9 күн бұрын
That and so you don't end up having to shelve it a month later for a new edition
@Ruffy112 4 күн бұрын
I started with 10th, got the Codex, Datacards, Dice etc. Guess it is a collectable now?😅
@scp_redacted989 4 күн бұрын
Books becoming outdated so fast is what kept me out of the hobby for so long. A certain wiki that has all the rules and datasheets got me to hop in though.
@zackjensen9779 14 күн бұрын
Praise the omnisiah! Our targeting systems work again
@bedstiker1 14 күн бұрын
Ave Deus Mechanics
@LordCrate-du8zm 13 күн бұрын
I’m so proud of all you Admech players. Never stop fighting! - an Imperial Fists player
@CharlieALeigh 13 күн бұрын
Think its worth remembering 13:57 the eradication beamer has D3 sustained on top, so very swingy but maxes out at a crazy amount of hits
@vicio19995 13 күн бұрын
while true, that is more impactfull when you hit less acurate, in average , it got 1 extra shot with this data slate, not a great buff and +30 points on cost. Or 2 shots if you are in +1 Bs
@CharlieALeigh 13 күн бұрын
@vicio19995 wasn't it 1d3 shots before and now it's 2d3? That with the previous sustained is pretty big
@vicio19995 13 күн бұрын
@@CharlieALeigh it was 1D6, it got more consistent and higer floor. 1-6 shot bfore averagr 3.5 before 2-6 shots now average 4 now
@CharlieALeigh 13 күн бұрын
@vicio19995 ah right, didn't notice that! Thanks
@SFCDaddio 14 күн бұрын
Phosphor blaster actually tripled its shots
@user-YuHaoHuang 13 күн бұрын
twelve shots with ignore cover and twin-link is actually nasty
@user-rz7ih2vh1c 13 күн бұрын
Whoever thought 130 points tank with 4 S6 -2 1 shot was ok was totally brain dead.
@YouWinAFREEiPOD 14 күн бұрын
BRO I HAD LITERALLY JUST BUILT 2,000 POINTS SOMEHOW AND NOW THEY GOT BUFFED AND I HAVE TO REMOVE UNITS Oh my God, what an absolute Renaissance!! It is Ascension Day come at last! 🙏
@skillfulwave6592 14 күн бұрын
WE ARE SO MECHANIBACK
@TheSilverDragon1 13 күн бұрын
I wish robots got a little more outside of the detachment for them. since I own 12 of them.
@The_Penguin_8964 13 күн бұрын
They have to do something big to the detechment, and really need those 30k buddies come back🙈 A long way to go, I have to say🙈
@simonbailey585 10 күн бұрын
I honestly think the Heresy robots will get data slates like the knights did. The reason they didn't for Marines is they already have enough!!
@MerryMusicMoth 14 күн бұрын
The machine is immortal
@jarrodmccutcheon5198 14 күн бұрын
The Enginseer also no longer gives a 4++ from his ability to the vehicles he repairs, instead giving a 5+ FNP, which makes those vehicles extra tanky. Running them with Onager Dunecrawlers looks genuinely scary (albeit about twice the price as it used to be XD)
@SFCDaddio 14 күн бұрын
That's an older change, that's not new
@ericwolf9664 13 күн бұрын
I'd argue that they were kind of needed with a block of Kastellans as the first one they attempt to hit would have a save profile of 2+/5++/5+++. Good luck cracking that anytime soon, that said a full skew list did get hit quite a bit if you don't run cawl to babysit the gun line.
@lukebm5555 13 күн бұрын
The imperial guard regimental enginseer is the one that gives 4++
@chrisspyroman 14 күн бұрын
Anyone who complains about point increases for Adeptus Mechanicus should volunteer for servitorisation
@chrisg8321 13 күн бұрын
Apparently one guy here deemed the increases "nasty" whilst admitting they were due to buffs... LOL
@sonarchy5158 13 күн бұрын
@@chrisg8321 Funnily enough, that guy's comment was right under this one on my end
@steventhompson7473 14 күн бұрын
lets go! The changes look good so far
@christerprestberg3973 14 күн бұрын
Nice to see some changes for Cawl, imo the coolest model GW has made.
@darkarms88 14 күн бұрын
Happy admech sounds
@ThePoopoo12345 13 күн бұрын
Just want to point out Sicarian Infiltrators gained +1 attack
@petersutherland6181 14 күн бұрын
Points increases are nasty (lost 175 points from my army) but those are some nice buffs to compensate. 😁
@chrisg8321 14 күн бұрын
So its not nasty then....
@petersutherland6181 14 күн бұрын
They are when I have spent money and time making models for said army only to now find I can no longer fit them in the list. But like I say, the buffs are good, so more than compensate for that negative.
@GoranTheCat 14 күн бұрын
@@petersutherland6181 I would think with these sort of changes, you would be considering redesigning your list anyways
@Basically_Anybody 13 күн бұрын
The point of the point increases was so that along with rule changes and datasheet buffs you no longer had a horde army that was bad at being a horde army
@Basically_Anybody 13 күн бұрын
Also now you can have some list variety with those extra units
@SnowElf_96 13 күн бұрын
All the factions about to get massive lore are gonna be boosted in game
@whichDude 13 күн бұрын
10th is the Tyranid focused edition, and this is the weakest they have ever been
@DrakonPhD 12 күн бұрын
Admech players weeping tears of joy at their army getting across the board points increases.
@gregoryshinn9805 13 күн бұрын
Thanks for the video
@gyro8332 14 күн бұрын
we are so back
@GoranTheCat 14 күн бұрын
Brb, need to grab my toaster real quick
@lukehendriech3812 13 күн бұрын
Praise the Omnissiah and pass the ammunition
@ominousowlman7504 13 күн бұрын
For the first time ever 40k players are happy about a points increase. You can finally afford to play now
@sarinat3101 10 күн бұрын
My 2 Disintegrator/2 Onager list: "OUR CANNONS SHALL SING"
@IHADTHECAKE 11 күн бұрын
We were finally reached about our ad mechs extended warranty. Praise be to the ommnisiah
@admiralkun8996 11 күн бұрын
Vanguard riding in a dune rider just got a whole lot scarier for point storming and clearing, dune rider with 18 AP -1 shots plus a vanguard squad having 30 AP -1 shots having full reroll to hit from marshal and full reroll to hit from the dune rider ability is a TON of dice rolls
@Paranormal-Stupidity 13 күн бұрын
If only the Space Marine Codex, with the same win rate as Admech before the buffs, had received this sort of attention. Instead it got nerfed...
@batshit36 13 күн бұрын
my brothers in the Omnisiah, Rejoice! The Machine god has heard our prayers
@thelegendsmith3063 12 күн бұрын
Cries quietly in the corner (deathwatch)
@bonogiamboni4830 12 күн бұрын
ABOUT FUCKING TIME.
@jonalen4217 13 күн бұрын
No now Auspex, I'm still watching the hour long video you released earlier today!
@JADorsey93 14 күн бұрын
Omnissiah Bless!
@jangogorgonzola 14 күн бұрын
Apart from that, I really like your videos, keep up the great content👍
@ethanlieske9678 13 күн бұрын
I like this idea of admec being an accuracy army , its different and its very thematic.
@veameal9725 12 күн бұрын
Never been so thrilled for a points bloat in a codex.
@MrGabXavier 3 күн бұрын
Admech VS World Eaters Yesterday, Score was 26 to 38 at the end of turn 2, I tabled World Eaters on Turn 3. My Neut laser + Erad. Beamer Dunecrawlers plus Laser-Ironstriders absolutely crushed my opponent 'Oops all eightbound!'-list. I deployed by feeding my Rusttalkers and Dragoons to the front line of my deployment zone, Angron wouldnt pop 2 Dragoons in one swing, my saves were hot! Knowing that WE can turn-one-charge you is not all that scary with preparation, the large and tough dragoons will not only survive attach but also fallback and charge to allow shooting later. The -1 to be hit in melee DRAMATICALLY dropped WE damage, maybe 25-30% less killy from that rule alone.
@dimagoloborodko6106_va 13 күн бұрын
The day before yesterday was a good day to start planning an admech army, but damn admech is kinda good now
@schaaf9637 13 күн бұрын
Looking forward playing Dunecrawler
@swoosh2503 13 күн бұрын
TIME TO FINISH BUILDING MY ARMY
@thatsthemdogsrealvoice 11 күн бұрын
Guess we finally appeased some machine spirits
@kylewolff1728 13 күн бұрын
Ave Deus Mechanicus! *Makes sign of the Cog*
@oscarholloway4443 12 күн бұрын
PRAISE THE OMNISSIAH! (aka Auspex Tactics, he must be a tech preist at least)
@joshuathomas1847 13 күн бұрын
Admech is my only 40k army since 8th. I'm mostly happy but the points increase is rough. The very awesome new army rule could make up for it, but I'm not sure.
@LargeBlueCircle 11 күн бұрын
Good analysis! We had someone from AoW on the unofficial discord the other day and this tracks. I still dont think Onager will see a lot of play, and IMO robots are overrated- the ones who use them REALLY love them but closing the distance is still rough. But big boost to our most standard forms of play and having rusties again is an excellent boost. Skystalkers got nerfed through the general grenade nerf. That one hurt.
@Tremadog102 13 күн бұрын
It sounds like I might be powering up some of my soldiers of the Omnissah once more. I don't need them to be top tier but playable. Losing blast on the Neutron Laser seems perfectly fine for the other improvements, and having my unit able to actually hit targets again will be lovely. Never before have I actually been happy to see an update with across the board point increases, what a time we live in!
@FavoriteKarma 13 күн бұрын
losing blast on the neutron laser is almost entirely a buff imo. Not being able to shoot into melee if an enemy dreadnought or something similar charged you was absolutely brutal.
@Tremadog102 13 күн бұрын
@@FavoriteKarma A valid point. Firing at a target where the blast was useful was generally massive overkill anyway. You've have needed to run out of hard targets completely to have to resort to firing at large units of models.
@The_Penguin_8964 14 күн бұрын
Praise the Omnissiah, for the machine is...eternal⚙️⚙️⚙️ Soo happy for the update🙈😆
@kookooburu 13 күн бұрын
Not an ademch player but very happy for the playerbase, this looks like a lot of good change!
@BBEMN 13 күн бұрын
I played a game with the new rules the day they came out. I brought 0 Kataphrons and killed multiple tanks. I'm so happy 😭
@1Viewer_ 10 күн бұрын
This update is just what we needed! I might be a but biased, butvI don't think we're so strong now that we wilk be nerf big in the next Hitting on 3 finaly! And hitting on 2s if standing still Or get a exte ap but then hit on 4s I looking forward to try this out :)
@eldoriath1 13 күн бұрын
Vehicles with overhang and round bases should be included in the 2" pivot cost. Non-vehicles/monsters on oval bases should only pay 1" pivot cost.
@knightsljx 14 күн бұрын
AdMech needs to double the points and effectiveness of all their units, just to make them barely affordable again
@0XFallen 13 күн бұрын
This. it's been a good start but wasn't enough to not be the most expensive army by far.
@seanalonzo9244 13 күн бұрын
Some of the prices are just cruel. Compare a rhino to the ad mec transport.
@hellsong23 11 күн бұрын
If stuff is hitting on 2s with devastating wounds or anti whathave you, then of course there have been points increases lol. Bad news for me is my mate started collecting them. My poor Ultramarines :(
@darkbotx 14 күн бұрын
i pray gw lets us keep this for a bit i am so hyped for these buffs
@brochat1669 14 күн бұрын
Beep Boop!
@d.t.m8393 13 күн бұрын
Edit: Apparently they've changed Hazardous to do MWs now for all units. Don't think I like that particular change(as if FNPs aren't already powerful enough in 40k!) but we'll see how it plays out. Things are still looking up for the worshippers of the Omnissiah! 🤖
@royart4781 13 күн бұрын
For the next two days
@tastefulavenger 13 күн бұрын
Well with them fixed can we contemplate how to go about Codex marines getting hammered for year straight now?
@dabo77777 14 күн бұрын
I'm a little disappointed by the reliance on battle line, but that seems to be a focus in 10th, so these updates are still rad.
@ofaal9755 11 күн бұрын
Anyone know where I can find those rules changes for the Skitarii Marshal and the Dunerider, I don't see them in the dataslate, so I'm assuming their in some other document I can't find.
@kennetheisenbraun5217 9 күн бұрын
On the metawatch article scroll all the way down and download the Adeptus Mechanicus one under indexes. It's an errata.
@warp-smith 13 күн бұрын
U know what? Good for u admech players, y’all who stuck with this faction deserve some fun rules (🤞 this lasts for a while, not til next dataslate!)
@bradleymartinez185 14 күн бұрын
My optical sensors are leaking from what i assume joy equates to (i only have 1 kilo of flesh remaining after my latest upgrade) Jokes aside, I am beyond happy with what they've done. A little less hordey and its perfect
@spaceMerine 11 күн бұрын
where can i find these changes?
@alexNicoleWa 14 күн бұрын
Why did I take my cards out of the plastic before even playing my army😢
@grahamcumbley222 13 күн бұрын
More to the point why did I buy them before reading the codex, my cards are still the plastic!
@WeOnlyEatSoup 14 күн бұрын
Finally!!!
@slambler6702 13 күн бұрын
I thought that a hit roll can’t be modified by more than +1 or -1
@user-hf3hd3pw1p 12 күн бұрын
The imperatives have 2 steps. The flat increase (+1 BS or WS) and the Heavy stat (reduse the BS by 1 from +4 to +3). So what happens is Heavy makes their BS +3 and the imperative increases it by 1 resulting in a +2
@josephpolk9660 10 күн бұрын
To put it succinctly, improving/reducing ballistic/weapon skill is not the same as adding or subtracting to the hit roll, so both can occur, allowing a 4+ unit to hit on 2s.
@1inimilian567 13 күн бұрын
Does the army rule cover the hole army? Because that was the thing I cared about
@stevencarmody1755 13 күн бұрын
With exception to the datasmith and kung-fu panda bots who get it through the detachment rule
@RageDuck0 13 күн бұрын
Apologies if im simply being impatient. But will all these updates be added to the warhammer app. Or should i find all of these and print them to keep in my codex?
@ruslanhoncharenko2179 12 күн бұрын
Yes, they will be updated in the app.
@jondavidgriffin 13 күн бұрын
No longer hitting like wet noodles :D
@adamclarke5299 7 күн бұрын
Tech priest manipulous is 85 points
@quintu5 14 күн бұрын
Why do people by the Codex Books again?
@edwardknight4633 14 күн бұрын
Surely rar battle line unit only gets the boost if within 6in of an other battle line unit
@josephpolk9660 14 күн бұрын
Nah the rule says "and/or" which means either if near battleline and/or if it is battleline.
@luske2 14 күн бұрын
That physical Codex is just a paper weight at this point 😅 Hope you enjoy using the app or at least appreciate the pages of lore and artwork 'cause those pages of rules/stats are completely unusable now...
@PhillipOnTakos 13 күн бұрын
I think we all had hope this would be good but this is GW. They exceeded them in every way. Not even with this stuff like the Tyranids and even the Dark Angels buffs out of where.
@roofkorean2A 3 күн бұрын
I want to get into 40K and decided to build admech. Can anyone guide me on a 2k build after this balance change?
@matthiasendres5944 14 күн бұрын
Why 2+? I thought the BS/WS cant be improved more than ones. So BS 4+ cannot be improved to 2+. Or am I wrong?
@brendanmckenna7613 14 күн бұрын
Its the difference between modifying the characteristic and modifying the result of the roll. Heavy modifies the result of the roll, this rule and for example the death guard army rule affect characteristics.
@matthiasendres5944 14 күн бұрын
Nice, thanks for the clarification
@adamclarke5299 14 күн бұрын
When is this coming out
@user-hf3hd3pw1p 12 күн бұрын
It’s out
@jpcartwright37 14 күн бұрын
Tears of joil
@peterallen5575 13 күн бұрын
*weeps in WD-40*
@tiberiumnp8030 6 күн бұрын
Seems like an over correction, but we’ll see.
@genetix250 2 күн бұрын
👍
@markmatthews9102 13 күн бұрын
Awesome stuff. Whyyyyy put points up so much though? Will have to see if it's an overall boost.
@alpharius7755 13 күн бұрын
because nobody wants to play Admech horde and even less with their prices?
@LordCrate-du8zm 13 күн бұрын
“Why does nobody want to pay 2k for an army? GW’s points nerfs suck!”
@mostaverage9824 13 күн бұрын
Before this update I was looking at list trying to get an idea what to do with the army and the 2k list cost around $1750 so I’m not complaining that I need less units
@astral_ragtime5365 14 күн бұрын
Let them PLEASE go up in points further so they're not nearly so expensive to collect
@GM-rs2fv 13 күн бұрын
lol admech players in the comments have learned helplessness from all of the previous GW abuse. Hopefully this time is different
@TheLofren 13 күн бұрын
I love how we admech players are so starved for good stats that we get an update that barely puts us in par with the average armies and we treat it like the holy grail that will make us competitive again
@Skitch213 13 күн бұрын
Too little, too late for anyone else?
@ManateeTunes 14 күн бұрын
YIPPEE
@Damnedlegion40k 14 күн бұрын
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