That’s a fascist speaking, plain and simple.

The media needs to stop giving Greenblatt airtime.

The ADL version of Stephen Miller.💀

The ADL is completely on the wrong side of history and morality here. If they want to continue to be relevant, they need to have a serious attitude adjustment.

I have no hate for Jewish people. I do not support Israel's government. How dare Greenblatt say things like this. He's so into denouncing Jewish hate, but does he not care about stoking hatred for Palestinians? No. His team is good. The other is bad. You criticize his team and you're with the opposition. It's pure nonsense and lacks nuance. It's a simpleton's view of things. It's manipulative. Love MR for doing this good work.

A state based on religious principles can not, by definition, be democratic. That would be an oxymoron.

As someone from an Ashkenazi background, Greenblatt's comment makes him sound, to me, more like the CEO of the JDL than the ADL.

Calling anti-zionism anti-Semitic is like calling anti-segregation, anti-white.

Criticizing Israeli government "policies", I think by now we can call it genocide, is *not antisemitic*!

ADL = ARAB DEFAMATION LEAGUE

Seeing the world through holo caust coloured glasses is systemically problematic. Its not healthy to interpret yourself as the forever victim to justify forever war. Everyone has the right to defend themselves.

How come no one ever mentions how Palestinians are actual Semites.

If oppressing a religious/ethnic underclass is inherent to Israel's existence, then no, I don't think it has the right to exist. But if it's not inherent to Israel's existence, then why should it be so controversial to ask them to exist without the oppression? How could it possibly be antisemitic or anti-zionist to criticize the Apartheid state if that is not an inherent quality of Israel? These people need to get their story straight, what does it mean for Israel to "exist" in their minds?

The pro Palestinian movement has been growing for years. Sympathy is a powerful emotion, apartheid is an easy thing to despise.

I don’t think that a religious state can be democratic at all. Democracy is an expression of the will of the people, not the mandates of some higher being, which would be a dictatorship.

Maybe I'm just in a squishy hippie area but I'm meeting an increasing number of Jewish people who are highly critical of Israel or just outright anti-Zionist. They're mostly young people. Israel's long-held PR advantage is slipping away I think

If you aren't familiar with Greenblatt this is totally his schtick, he is really good at dividing left and right, one week the right is anti-Semitic, the next week its the left. Reminds me Edward Bernays who could go from Klan meeting to NAACP.

I cannot stand that Greenblatt guy. So many false equivalences. It's people like him doing their rounds on mainstream media that helped me search you guys out as an alternative news source in this growing conflict. No more MSNBC for me.

Greenblatt's disingenuous conflation of Judaism and Zionism arguably promotes antisemitism, which is pretty ironic.

It's too bad that Sam didn't get Emma's point, because it's important. The idea that every Jew is obligated to support the government of Israel and the cause of Zionism is the same logic underpinning the belief of white supremacists that whiteness is not only a cause unto itself, but the most righteous cause. In other words, according to Greenblatt et al, Zionism is what it means to be a Jew.

Saying that Anti-Zionism is akin to anti-Semitism is to say that being a Zionist (hence pro-Israel) is an inherent immutable characteristic of being Jewish, which is anti-Semitic in of itself! But this also implies that all jewish people living in diaspora specifically, have an allegiance to the foreign (for them) state of Israel, which is also an anti-Semitic trope. The logic is sound.

Greenblatt is despicable

Free Palestine 🇵🇸

Regardless of the intentions behind Israel's founding, let this be a lesson to the world that there is no such thing as a "good" ethno-state.

I never knew who this guy was until October. I so want to go back to the days before I knew this scum existed.

Love Emma, such a kind soul and of course Sams thoughtful , deep views, and also the invisible producer guys

I think the issue is over the name "Israel". I don't think we can really have a state of "Israel" that isn't an ethno-state. An equal rights, freedom of religion, democracy needs to replace it. If the name "Palestine" is considered too loaded at this point, then call it "Canaan".

No, "Israel" doesn't have the right to exist. The issue is that "Israel" is necessarily and explicitly built on Jewish supremacy. A one-state, secular, democratic Palestine that serves the needs of all citizens is the only option. Saying that "Israel" doesn't have a right to exist does not at all necessarily imply that "Israeli" citizens would have to be displaced. They are part of the population that get to make up the newly made Palestine. Except for Settlers. They can go back to Brooklyn.

As a Jewish liberal American with an Israeli born father, I've avoided speaking on this issue because I have a lot of conflicting emotions and opinions right now but this man just pissed me allllll the way off. There's no argument anymore that antizionism is antisemitic???? I actually have an endless list of arguments for him.

ADL just lost a lot of credibility

But did the refugees condemn Hamas before they were blown up ?

I choose Door #3: Anti-Netanyahu-ism. It fits with my opposition to current and former leaders like Trump, GWBush, Boris Johnson, Modi, Bolsonaro, Erdoğan, Tony Abbott, etc. Right-wing leaders of supposedly democratic countries.

Love you guys,please keep up the good work.

You guys are exactly right!! Thank you for your clarity on this situation. Also, I'm disappointed on how Greenblatt calls just about everything/everyone and anti-Semite if they disagree with some of Israel's laws and handling of this situation.

I was vaguely aware of Greenblatt before. Ever since he went on genocidal rants on multiple shows on MSNBC about a day after the attacks, I have him and the ADL blocked on Twitter.

Mr Greenblatt "People can be deceived temporarily, but the truth eventually becomes apparent."

So much respect for Sam Seder for integrity and intellectual honestly.

Imagine ppl calling out criticism of the taliban treatment of women and girls as Islamophobia

When Germany committed genocide it was split into three parts with one becoming part of Poland and the others occupied. Israel has forfeited its right to exist as a state.

Has Jonathan Greenblatt and Naftali Bennet ever been in the same room? Just wondering 💭

James O'Brien asked what I believe is the most insightful question about the present situation in Gaza: "If HAMAS had infiltrated Israel and was hiding among Israeli civilians, would you support the same tactics being used by the Israeli military?" His question brought all the back-slapping right-wing government supporters to silence.

what is going on with zionist supremacists losing their hair?

Y'all missed a key point here. No state has a right to exist. People have rights. States have responsibilities and obligations.

Palestinians and Arabs are also Semitic people.

The psychological toll of occupation on Palestinians is obvious. But on the Israeli side, perpetrating this kind of injustice must also produce damaging psychological effects and inner conflict on those who reflect. The more ethical lines are crossed, the more absurd and extreme the rhetoric needs to be to distract people from their consciences and this is what has happened with the rise of the extremist right in Israel, both religious and secular. The present Israeli society is not sustainable bc societies eventually reach a breaking point where they decide that their conflict needs a conclusion and being wishy washy won’t do that. So the only logical future paths for Israel are either following the extreme right to a 1200bc book of Joshua cultural mindset that allows them to psychologically tolerate even greater violence than ever, which I don’t think most Israelis want, or finally finding the strength to make peace. These are I believe the only two paths Israel could possibly take from here and either one could happen though I hope peace is chosen. I think Palestinians and Israelis have had enough and can achieve peace.

I personally condemned hamas 10 times a day.

No *country* has a right to exist. The *peoples (plural)* do, but not the countries. The establishment of a country - a permanent set of instutions claiming a mandate from the people to act as a sovereign power over a specified area - is a privilege, one which most people would agree should be made and kept contingent on meeting certain minimal conditions, not the least of which is consent of the governed. Israel fails that standard from its very beginning through the present (it is not alone in that regard, but Israel is the country in question here). There are thousands of extant and recognizable peoples on earth, and almost all of them *don't* have an ethnostate claiming to function in their name. Many countries have a population in which a particular ethnic group is in the popular majority and may also be culturally dominant, but this is not the same thing as explicitly guaranteeing that group's primacy over others in law and practice (a supremacist/apartheid order). So no...Israel does not have a right to exist. Israel in its current form can and should be dismantled in favor of an order which meets at least the most basic conditions of legitimacy.

4:09 "There is no argument that anti-zionism is anti-semitism" Correct, Mehdi Hasan thoroughly dismantled that argument in debate 😆 but seriously, how can he say Zionism is the same as Judaism?

Part of the difficulty is that there are two definitions of Zionism, the sensible one and the theocratic. If you say that all Jews deserve a sate, that's sensible, if you say there must be a Jewish state, that is theocratic and bad. I'm against theocracy, I don't think any religion should have state power. I am for democracy, I believe all people, regardless of religion and ethnicity should have a state. Israel is denying Palestinians their right to a state, and their war crimes are causing people to react with violence. Israel's war crimes don't justify further violence, but they do cause it.

Im shocked guys. This has been a theme for decades.

The fact that the ADL would try to do this is so duplicitous and evil.

Oh no. I can't go get a pastrami sandwich without people pointing out I'm a racist genocide supporter. What a shame.

The Palestinians are Semitic too, and the Palestinian and Jewish people are pretty much genetic siblings. So where does that factor into his logic?

Opposing the killing of children, shouldn't be controversial. This is unreal.

I'm in no position to decide what is and isn't anti-semitic, but I agree with Emma that conflating support for the (current, right wing) state of Israel and Judaism is probably anti-semitic. By saying that anti-zionism is equivalent to anti-semitic, as Sam pointed out, he is implying that Jewish people who are anti-zionist are self-hating.

Anti zionism is not the same as antisemitism. Any body can see that. The ones that propagate that theory have their own agenda

ANTI ZIONIST & ANTI SEMITISM are 2 completely SEPERATE matters 100%.

Around 8:50 Emma makes a great point.

Thanks for calling me young 😂😂😂

The whole purpose of creating the words antisemitism and antizionism was for a very special breed of people highly adored by christians.

It’s time to find out whether sunlight really is the best disinfectant.

A new law has been passed in most of the American states stating that you cannot boycott Israel, otherwise you will lose your job. With all due respect, this is simply a violation of the American constitution

Fun fact: the ADL for nearly all of its history denied the Armenian Genocide.

This is nothing new for the ADL

has Jonathan Greenblatt never read The Chosen?

Emma's moral clarity is admirable!

🎯"An anti-Semite used to be called a person who dislikes Jews. Now it is a person who Jews dislike" _ Dr. Hajo Meyer, Holocaust survivor, 1924-2014.

"ADL considered scrapping its US police training trips to Israel, decided not to." ~Times of Israel, Mar. 18, 2022.

He does it deliberately, it’s a way to avoid criticism of the Israeli government no matter what it does. The ADL has really lost its way

Rosenblatt should consider a new name: How Bout "Satanstein"

Great take @sam!

Having grown up with far right fundamentalist Christians who strongly and consistently supported Israel yet were virulently and openly anti-Semitic, I could never quite understand conflating the two. I abhor anti-Semitism. I abhor the dehumanizing of ANY group of people. Morality cannot be linked unconditionally to the actions of any government. To insist on that invites backlash when that government errs.

Some Israelis always equate criticism of Israeli policy with anti-Semitism, so why not also equate anti-Zionism with anti-Semitism while they're at it?

Fascism first hand. I'm an Atheist but I have to support religious states for a particular people only & it's not up for debate. Fuck that.

Standing up against a violent apartheid state is not antisemitic. Conflating religious beliefs with settler colonial ideology actually is.

We have been saying "timeout" greenbelch we pronounce it "ceasefire"

Denying the Jews that are against Zionism.

Not actually that important but can someone tell Sam what he keeps referring to is the Sinai not the Negev. The Sinai (peninsula) is the desert in Egypt on the other side. The Negev is the desert in the south of Israel fyi. Not actually that consequential but it’s irking me lol

This is so sad to justify the unaliving of babies.

He doesn't conflate anything. anti- Zionism is antisemitism.

Greenblatt needs to resign or replaced along with Netanyahu. He has been bullying for sometime by calling everything someone says is antisemitic. When it is not. It loses its true power.

FRIENDLY WARNING DON'T START MESSING WITH FREE SPEECH

That guy is warped and evil.

Subjectively false? Or objectively?

You can see a clear difference how people present themselves. The people that are honest are usually very calm and open to a conversation. They let you be the judge and make your own opinion. Then you have maniacs and liars that speak very loudly, almost shouting, and trying to force their views upon you. Only their view is acceptable and you cannot have your own say 🤦‍♂

The "Jewish state" phrase in Israel's declaration of independence, means a state for Jews as per the 1947 partition plan and Benjamin Ze'ev Hertzel's vision of an explicitly secular state, which are specifically referred to in said declaration, before "a Jewish state" is declared. This phrase has been bastardized to imply a religious state, both by the religious who believe their messiah is yet to come, and the religious who believe their messiah would return. Just like the U.S., according to the document Israel is explicitly secular. And just like the U.S., it is intentionally ignored and misrepresented by the religious who don't like what it means.

i agree with emma that it seems antisemitic to pigeonhole all jewish ppl by saying antizionism is antisemitism, implying that jewish ppl need to be zionists or support zionism. i'm not jewish, but i wish sam spent a few more moments on that point.

The ADL need to deal with that lawsuit sue Farrakhan quit putting out that dis information

He is a Major Dik so carry on people...nothing to see here..

Gee, and the ADL was so useful to the blue zombie propaganda machine too!

When Sam says the word “you” he sounds like Eddie Murphy doing Bill Cosby 😮 I would like to talk to YUUUUU.

Sam what Emma was saying and I’m sure she probably explain this after the show is that to say you’re Jewish you obviously love Israel and support Israel is like saying you’re black you obviously love watermelon and fried chicken. It’s assuming all Jewish people think the same way or like the same things.

People on this show say some really silly things. There is never going to be a "single state solution". Israel would never take in millions of people who elected Hamas. And the Arabs did have the right to stay during the 1948 war. Those that stayed in Israel became the 20% of Israeli Arabs.

Do pals have the right to exist?

The respect that I have for you guys for being so honest and so fair on these topics is beyond words. Seriously, thank you. Thank you for explaining things the way that you do and addressing certain things that no one else will.

GREENBLATT HAS EVIL OOZING OUT OF HIM

"ADL’s CEO Disingenuously Conflates Anti-Zionism And Anti-Semitism" What, slow news day for you Sam? "Sun rises in east"

I think the ADL has an important mission. I don't know that this guy is in an ideological position to achieve that mission. These types of comments will increase anti-semitism. When people like this are the figureheads, it becomes very hard to shut down people cloaking their actual anti-semitism in hate speech about Israel. I am *entirely* for strenuous criticism, even condemnation, of the Israeli state's current choices and actions. But the fascists are only too happy to start chanting about how "Israel never had a right to exist" or "israel has always been a country of pure evil" and other such crap. And this kind of shit runs cover for them.

Antisemitism and Antizionism are two different things. Jewish people are against are Israels as well. Being pro-Palestine does not mean you are an anti-Semite.

disagreeing = Antisemetism