@@davidnoelfranks1124 Assuming the Russians win, that is.

@@davidnoelfranks1124 So far the advancing direction of the Russian armed forces is backwards

@@davidnoelfranks1124 yeah, kinda doubt that.

ship building capacity isnt as weak as you think

Kiev-class battle carrier and Kirov-class battlecruiser sitting in the corner: *sip wine “You don’t know what they can really do when they’re serious.”

the type054 series were made to be cheap and mass producable since at the time china's navy lacked any modern warships. It set the baseline for the modern chinese navy.

I would rank FFG(X) higher than AG: Constellation has significantly more advanced sensors (Radar and EW), can carry more missiles (due to quad-packing ESSM, which is equivalent/superior to redut and having 16 NSM) and has a significantly superior ASW capability with an Variable-Depth Sonar which AG lacks completely and a SH-60+ MQ-8 combination (SH-60 being a heavier, more capable helicopter than Ka-27)

@@felixhanisch4005 Definitely agree on these points, though it severely lacks in its SSM capabilities, 16x NSMs are decent, though extremely limited range and very antiquated compared to what Russia and China are fielding.

I'm a little surprised the PLAN acquired so many Type 054A frigates as well. I guess they are still quite good for ASW escorts, and are OK in mid-range air defence. Type 054B definitely needs to come soon though

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Actually very true.

Thanks for your support!

It is probaly a win for the Gorshkov because newer build one with 32 cell 3S-14 for Kalibr, Onyx and Zircon + the 32 for Air defense (probaly a mix of 24 9M96 and 32 9M100) it will out match it

@@kqckeforyou4433 I'll wait for him to give his views, thanks.

@@asiftalpur3758 No problem 😉

@@kqckeforyou4433 😊👌

I think it's a little too early to compare the Gorshkov with the Type 054B, given we only have unofficial info or what I consider fairly credible rumours on the Type 054B so far. My opinion is that the Admiral Gorshkov should still retain much better surface-to-surface firepower with its long-range ASCMs including the Tsirkon that will enter service soon, but the Type 054B should be more suitable for area air defence, particularly if it uses the Chinese UVLS as I believe it will.

Yes, I agree!

How many RBS15 can it withstand before going to accompany papa Moskva considering this missile has been widely deployed in Baltic region.. I bet it won't exceed a couple.

@@kentony7672 The ship that Moscow, back in 1994, should be scraped, because she was already obsolete at that time, for Russia it was basically a loss of reputation As for RBS15, then N missiles * the probability of their interception, everything is exactly the same as in any other ships of any countries, but after the first missile there will be a casus beli and the question immediately arises whether can Stockholm, together with all the inhabitants and infrastructure, can withstand againts 16 thermonuclear charges 2 megatons each, which this ship is designed to carry in zircon format. There is reason to believe that the maximum is zero, taking into account all possible air defense. In terms of strategic destructive power, this is a very powerful frigate (although I think that everything directly and directly goes just to the fact that all parties will use destructive force even before construction is completed, ruining the entire civilization, but this is my opinion) And so, if nevertheless this does not happen by some miracle, then reducing the size of ships and increasing their striking power is a trend that all countries will follow. It's much better to have a bunch of these frigates than a lot fewer capital ships. This strategy works everywhere, as technologies get to stuffing anti-ship missiles into tens of thousands of stealth drone boats made of plastic, warships will simply be floating docks for such boats, most likely also automatic, and all the situation, guidance and control will be transferred to satellites (which in mostly owned by the leader of an alliance). Drones will also conduct anti-submarine warfare, just like the boats themselves will also be drones, and on this the era of warships, even of this size, will go into the background

@@kentony7672 If I'm not mistaken, the Russian Ministry of Defense made an official statement that the ship sank due to a fire caused by the crew's error! You have some new information, that that ship was sunk by a missile!?

@@struvrim7637 Even the overpriced wunderwaffe zummwalt will go down after 1 hit. I don't think even carrier would survive 1 hit from modern AShM. The key is don't get hit, use decoy, EW, interceptor anything but try not to get hit.

I think a lot is still up in the air around the project 23560... it's not clear whether it will definitely happen given the preferences given to the Super Gorshkov

@@EurasiaNaval thanks for the update👍

Are those indigenously manufactured or the Chinese just threw a watered down export version of the Type 54?

It's a little too early to compare the Gorshkov with the Type 054B, given we only have unofficial info or what I consider credible rumours on the Type 054B so far. My opinion is that the Gorshkov should still retain much better surface-to-surface firepower, but the Type 054B should be more suitable for area air defence, particularly if it uses the Chinese UVLS as I believe it will.

@@EurasiaNaval and how about the Tughril class of frigates?

@@muhammadhuzaifaazam Definitely superior to the Type 054A/P in every single way, in my view

The Russian Navy has always been a stepchild of the armed forces. Today more than ever.

The problem is not hardware, its the army

@@pjdu5yifutd Planes and helicopters shot down, missiles that are woefully inaccurate, air space regularly breached by Ukrainian activity and their navy moved out of harms way following the sinking of the Black Sea flagship. The Russian army has little to do with any of that?

@@aib0160 ussr stock are you dumb?

@@pjdu5yifutd Well it was you blaming the army, I was just pointing out that Russia's losses and poor performance isn't just their army. Their equipment has proven to be crap as have their tactics. But you carry on with the insults if that makes you feel better. That is something the Russians are good at, just like fighting unarmed civilians and rag-tag armies of the third world.

@@pjdu5yifutd cope loser

They don't plan to mass produce any of their ships... They plan to build 15 of these frigates, they have built 3, they are building 5, and when they finish those 5 they will start the next 5... and that's it. Everything is as they planned, they don't have any problems there.

Yes. They plan is to have 15. 2 are in the navy, Another just complete its trials, And another 5 are under construction

That ship is complete and in service for several years, but new weapons are appearing that the Russian Navy is immediately testing on the ships. This ship, as the first in its class, is also a testbed for new weapons and can spend its entire career in that purpose... It is much simpler for the Russian army to upgrade existing platforms, all that is required is for the Ministry of Defense to give an order to the state-controlled military industrial complex. Unlike the Russians, the US must go through the senate at least twice to approve funding, first for the project and then for the upgrade, so upgrades are carried out periodically on all ships in the class, which is known as a block. So maybe it confuses you that that ship is still not complete...

Horizon class is a destroyer, idiot.

This whole account seems like it's extremely biased towards Chinese and Russian designs. The kinzhal failure should be proof enough that Russian hypersonic is a joke

​@@zachdebuhr6347Patriot get destroyed must be a joke SAM😂. US and Nato lost in afghan war prove that Western military equipment is a joke and garbage😂. Look at leopard 2a6 also a flying turret😂.

​@@zachdebuhr6347sent a video khinzal got shot down😂. Only claim by ukraine with fake khinzal piece😂

🤣😂Where is proof of Kingal got shot down nowhere and before you show any just 1 fake video don't forget to prove that it has Kingal in it or ship Moskva I seen them them fakes anyway Ukraine uses they old almost similar looking ship but not the same size and burn it for a prime video because it was old and it cost to much to renew and 3rd country like Ukraine can have ships not enough money because they beg none stop USA for USD and tech all destroyed in 7+ years lol hahaha Kingal hit all the military UKRnazi buildings as all videos show whole world seen it

Instead, replaced with Palash CIWS

@@Yourlocalhuman8 oooooO yes palash . Tankyou sir🙌

Nah they are pretty legit. You and I have been thru some of the most intense propaganda campaigns seen in human history. Not all is as it seems. Dont just assume what you hear regarding Russia is always true, whether good or bad.

Specs are fine. But corruption has severely impacted maintenance of their ships and sanctions have probably made it even worse.

@@jamesmandahl444 No they really are not. Is now known Russia inflates all its military specifications and capabilities.

Still runs, give me your money.

This ship has been running for some time

It was the flagship of russia's Mediterranean fleet parade on Navy Day

They did, and yet here it still fights and yet still it’s bombing ukraine with moskits and zircons

Well lets Say the Operator because the crew can be good but the rest can be shit

@@kqckeforyou4433 Fair enough.

@@clausjensen5658 Thanks but with the rest your right and its kinda sad to have one of the Super Powers of this world in a state like this

Are all Lazer pig fans this stupid? like I knew y’all were braindead but this is a different level of stupidity 😟

may I ask what channel is that?

@@val91122 he's talking about binkov. tankies hate him because he's honest about russian and chinese military equipment (aka mostly trash in russia's case and mostly untested and trash in china's) whereas this channel is basically a hype machine for russian and chinese military hardware lol. not that i have a dog in this fight but the comment sections are always hilarious especially since this channel proclaimed the movska as some unstoppable beast yet it got sunk by the ukrainians embarrassingly

Binkov's battleground

Haha thanks for your support. I actually find Binkov's videos on Chinese naval and air power to be not too bad. He makes an attempt to be impartial, and what he says is defensible, although he does stay on the more conservative side in terms of PLA asset numbers and capabilities. For example, in his recent video on the surge in Chinese combat aircraft production, I think he undercounted the J-15 and H-6K/J/N numbers somewhat, but the estimates he presented for other aircrafts were defensible. He clearly tries to get hold of the correct sources, or have people working for him that scour Chinese language forums. I can't speak for Binkov's videos on Russian equipment or military affairs though, because I haven't watched many of his videos on that topic, and I know far less about Russian capabilities in general.

Very anti-China, i think. His comments are through the roof anti-China. Critic is ok, pure hate is bad. He cant do anything about that but still annoying. But thanks for trying to be un-biased.

Nah it us pretty impressive. Getting tired of the thick anti ruskie propaganda

I would'nt say that. Reality speaks better than words. Look at the Moskva it sunk because it was sent out in poor condition with its defence technologies was not working. Look at the akula months before the US could not locate it in the Atlantic. Now it was spotted off the coast off Norway. Did US technology improve over 4 months or is the akula not being mantained properly hence it's stealth being deterioriated.

@@jamesmandahl444 if you look at it from another pov, given the russians relatively small military budget compared to the US and china, it's only logical that they would struggle to maintain a lot of equipment. servicing a military that requires a large yet elite navy, army and air force on such a poultry budget...it's only inevitable that there are going to be major holes when it comes to general upkeep and training. dude mentioning the sinking of the movska and the spotting of the akula is right. heck even vostok 2022 they couldn't even send more than a quarter of the ships they had announced to participate. i think the criticism is fair

It’s a brand new ship there’s a different between a ship from the 70s and 2022 😂 you fool

@@jamesmandahl444 it's not an anti-ruskie propaganda when theres a leaked report on how badly the Russian Navy maintained their former Black Sea flagship.

Moskvas flaw was it's fire fighting capability and overall age No wonder it was due to be scrapped next year.

@@BoleDaPole BS, had repair/maintenance/upgrades done (one paper looks like mostly) to server another decade or two.

@@mindaugasstankus5943 Nope it didnt, it was supposed to have, but lack of funding denied it an modernization in those areas.

kinda lame comparing an old ship wich the moskva was. against a brand new one

@@lexburen5932 cope

It has nothing to do with weapons, I am wondering where you guys leave your brains when listening or your are just all about talk?????

What's the problem?

The mightiest army of the world of 1950 couldnt defeat a rice peasants army and the poorest of the world. In Vietnam war, the p00r USA army was again the stronghest and mighties army of the world. The rice-peasant army of Vietnam is pissing their pants of laughing. The stronghest NATO army under USA command invaded Afghanistan to bring demon-crazy, human-abuse and free-dumbs and failed. 20 years of occupation and Afghanistan still 1 of the poorest country in the world. Yes, poor USA is a beacon of failure.

Well in case you wrote Something i can't see it

@@dafonsecaaugustojose4423 It has. A System has two crucial elements. The System itself and the Operator. As we have no 100% unmanned object ( because at somepoint a human started it or deactivated it) everything falls under this. It doesn't matter how good a weapon is if the Operator can't use it full pontential. Sry for my Bad Englisch xD

thats any ship tbh, todays attack is stronger than defense tech. look at russia can use their hyper sonic missiles and destroy literrary all usa navy lol.

@@Khalid_Looby cope more loser

Yeah, they should focus on building single-purpose $4.5 billion dollar ships that can are only armed with artillery guns that fire $800,000 rounds.

@@definitelyfrank9341 Yeah...but when your Navy's budget is two and a half times larger than the entire Defense budget of your nearest peer competitor you can afford to "experiment".

@@brianfoley4328 A retard would know that ship is useless, you can't avoid the truth.

How did your multi-billion-dollar, single-purpose Zumwalt go?

Because that isn't smart?

@@definitelyfrank9341 what’s the point of having a navy if you send its best ships on intimidation cruises rather than have them fight in the war you are actively engaged in?

@@collinwood6573 Because they aren't part of the fleet nearest to the enemy they're fighting, and they really have no need to put such a high value target there. They already have missile boats which are much lower value targets and can get the job done.

Sebilam slava. Svalka - ukraina.