The battery leaked on these motherboards, are they ruined?

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Adrian's Digital Basement

Adrian's Digital Basement

3 жыл бұрын

NiCD/NiMH batteries leak when they are old and severely discharged, and this commonly causes damage to vintage computers. Here is a 286 and a 386DX motherboard that had the battery leak. Are they ruined?
386 Motherboard:
Unknown brand
C&T Chips Chipset P82C205, P82B305, P82A304, P82A303, P82C302, P82C301 P82A306, PA82B305
Information page on Stason.org:
stason.org/TULARC/pc/motherbo...
286 Motherboard:
DTK PTM-1030 Mini '286
Chipset: VLSI VL82C100
stason.org/TULARC/pc/motherbo...
-- Video Links
DTK case repair (damage caused by battery leakage)
• Restoring an old AT co...
BIOS post codes
www.bioscentral.com/postcodes/...
ISA/PCI Post Code Diagnostic Card:
amzn.to/3twmBXc
BIOS images and pictures for the 386 motherboard:
archive.org/details/ami-386-b...
High Res Pictures:
Sorry not uploaded yet
-- Tools
Deoxit D5:
amzn.to/2VvOKy1
store.caig.com/s.nl/it.A/id.16...
Jonard Tools EX-2 Chip Extractor:
amzn.to/2VazxDS
www.jonard.com/Products/EX-2-...
Wiha Chip Lifter:
amzn.to/3a9ftWw
www.wihatools.com/precision-c...
O-Ring Pick Set: (I use these to lift chips off boards)
amzn.to/3a9x54J
Elenco Electronics LP-560 Logic Probe:
amzn.to/2VrT5lW
Hakko FR301 Desoldering Iron:
amzn.to/2ye6xC0
Rigol DS1054Z Four Channel Oscilloscope:
www.rigolna.com/products/digi...
Head Worn Magnifying Goggles / Dual Lens Flip-In Head Magnifier:
amzn.to/3adRbuy
TL866II Plus Chip Tester and EPROM programmer: (The MiniPro)
amzn.to/2wG4tlP
www.aliexpress.com/item/33000...
TS100 Soldering Iron:
amzn.to/2K36dJ5
www.ebay.com/itm/TS100-65W-MI...
EEVBlog 121GW Multimeter:
www.eevblog.com/product/121gw/
DSLogic Basic Logic Analyzer:
amzn.to/2RDSDQw
www.ebay.com/itm/USB-Logic-DS...
Magnetic Screw Holder:
amzn.to/3b8LOhG
www.harborfreight.com/4-inch-...
Universal ZIP sockets: (clones, used on my ZIF-64 test machine)
www.ebay.com/itm/14-16-18-20-...
RetroTink 2X Upconverter: (to hook up something like a C64 to HDMI)
www.retrotink.com/
Plato (Clone) Side Cutters: (order five)
www.ebay.com/itm/1-2-5-10PCS-...
Heat Sinks:
www.aliexpress.com/item/32537...
Little squeezy bottles: (available elsewhere too)
amzn.to/3b8LOOI
--- Links
My GitHub repository:
github.com/misterblack1?tab=r...
Commodore Computer Club / Vancouver, WA - Portland, OR - PDX Commodore Users Group
www.commodorecomputerclub.com/
--- Instructional videos
My video on damage-free chip removal:
• How to remove chips wi...
--- Music
Intro music and other tracks by:
Nathan Divino
@itsnathandivino

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@adriansdigitalbasement
@adriansdigitalbasement 3 жыл бұрын
I tested all the RAM I took off the 286 motherboard in the ZIF-64 and found the one bad chip. It's in the dead parts bin now!
@HAGSLAB
@HAGSLAB 3 жыл бұрын
@@ianhanschen Souvenirs I guess, as a reminder of all the old computers he's been repairing. That's why I do it anyway, well, also because I've seen Adrian do it ;)
@johnpossum556
@johnpossum556 3 жыл бұрын
Is that a battery leak or are you just happy to see me?
@TheNews1990
@TheNews1990 3 жыл бұрын
I used to have a 286 Baby AT from 1989 similar to that 386DX. It wouldn't boot without a keyboard, graphics card, and monitor plugged in.
@sprybug
@sprybug 3 жыл бұрын
I was going to ask about that. Thanks!
@JoaoVitor-cw2vg
@JoaoVitor-cw2vg 3 жыл бұрын
1 guy 2 ruined motherboards, nice vid
@LGR
@LGR 3 жыл бұрын
Dang, that second board ended up as quite a nice little setup, especially with the changes made. Feelin' 286 envy 😁 Having spent so much time with IBM AT-class machines in recent years, when you got into the BIOS I was thinking "whoa, a 286 system setup without needing diagnostics disks or GSETUP, that looks great!" Proceeded by your remarks about the BIOS being awful, heh. It's all relative, right? Makes me wanna build a really nice AT clone sometime.
@nickwallette6201
@nickwallette6201 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that BIOS was pretty snazzy! Check out all the animation. :-)
@adriansdigitalbasement
@adriansdigitalbasement 3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha!! Yeah definitely relative. I've already swapped the BIOS with a nice AMI one that works the way I expect. I tried out a few before I settled on one that was basically the most useful and modern one. Incidentally the AMI one also has some diagnostics built in too. I guess there is just "extra space" :-)
@DavidKehley
@DavidKehley 3 жыл бұрын
I Love to see other youtubers comment on people that are in the same field as them always love watching your videos Clint as well as Adrian’s
@jameslewis2635
@jameslewis2635 3 жыл бұрын
Is it wrong that I can't read your comments without internally hearing your voice in 'Duke' mode?
@stonent
@stonent 3 жыл бұрын
@@adriansdigitalbasement I used to keep an AMI 286 board around for the sole purpose of the integrated drive utilities. I would buy junk MFM drives from a local computer store (The one 8-bit guy used to work at) and would try to fix them with the AMI drive utilities. Nearly all were usable in the end. The one bad track 0 drive I had, I fixed by altering the end stop for the head so the track was slightly skewed and re-did the full low-level format on it, and it worked perfectly after that.
@Hal9526
@Hal9526 3 жыл бұрын
I love that you treat all computer platforms with equal respect and enthusiasm.
@themegaman91965
@themegaman91965 3 жыл бұрын
These are all powerful in their own way, and I definitely agree that these deserve the same respect as their newer counterparts. I love that preserving computing history is a thing, since my first computer was a 486DX2 at 66 Mhz for Doom back in the 90's.
@BilisNegra
@BilisNegra 3 жыл бұрын
@Tano I guess they are now relatively collectable, one of the reasons being precisely that they have been regarded as junk and scrapped at some point in the past, maybe 15-20 years ago, so they are scarce today.
@kaitlyn__L
@kaitlyn__L 3 жыл бұрын
@@BilisNegra yeah the price is going way up. As you say, precisely because that attitude has increased the scarcity to a similar level.
@tetsujin_144
@tetsujin_144 3 жыл бұрын
4:22 - "I'm not sure what this chip does here" I believe it patrols California's highways
@Fifury161
@Fifury161 3 жыл бұрын
groan....
@tomf3150
@tomf3150 3 жыл бұрын
Badum Tsss !
@minty_Joe
@minty_Joe 3 жыл бұрын
Needs salsa...Mmmm, salsa... :-9
@GalileoAV
@GalileoAV 3 жыл бұрын
I giggled a little when it flashed a ton of glitchy post codes. Like saying "you want a post code, I'll give you ALL THE POST CODES"
@Deathshead419
@Deathshead419 3 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a little PC build episode tucking that 286 motherboard into a new home. Nothing fancy, just showing it up and running as a computer again.
@stathissim
@stathissim 3 жыл бұрын
My favorite time of the week has come!
@sebastianwalker1081
@sebastianwalker1081 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Adrian, your videos are a joy to watch, entertaining and educational. This old hardware makes me very nostalgic.
@rvenden
@rvenden Жыл бұрын
Love your approach to forensic analysis of these machines. Thanks, Adrian!
@Aruneh
@Aruneh 3 жыл бұрын
Nice to see some PC stuff! I have some old motherboards that I will take another look at after hearing some of your troubleshootings tricks.
@ropersonline
@ropersonline 3 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU for mentioning stason.org! I'd totally forgotten the URL, and new age woo aside, the TULARC/pc archive is SO, so useful!
@CPUGalaxy
@CPUGalaxy 3 жыл бұрын
Great video as always! 👍🏻. I love the 286 board and actually I did not know that there is so much performance to gain with 0 WT! Really cool. Sad that the 386 is broken, but I already had no hope when I saw the dashes at the first time on your post card. As you said at the end, one time you win and one time you lose. Thanks for this video and greetings from Austria 🇦🇹
@nickwallette6201
@nickwallette6201 3 жыл бұрын
They’re not in an unknown state. They’re in Oregon! 😁
@DerekWitt
@DerekWitt 2 жыл бұрын
More like the state of confusion. ;)
@Fred_Raimer
@Fred_Raimer 3 жыл бұрын
Love the lighting in this one, Adrian! You look downright angelic at the opening! LOL
@poofygoof
@poofygoof 3 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate the resuscitation efforts on the 386 board. You went above and beyond what I was expecting when you picked it up. (Bodge wires!) I wonder if it was deliberately overclocked late in its operational lifetime? The video has been a great (if unintentional) birthday present, too. Thanks again, and I hope I can get you (and your viewers) some more interesting (and working) hardware at some point in the future.
@rberlim79
@rberlim79 3 жыл бұрын
I really learn a lot on your channel, thank you!
@drPeidos
@drPeidos 3 жыл бұрын
Hope you manage to fix the 386 board in the future :)
@droopysloopy
@droopysloopy 3 жыл бұрын
Have you tried swapping those bios chips around on the 386 motherboard? They gave the same issue on the 286 board whenyou had them installed incorrectly.
@danijelcerin6912
@danijelcerin6912 3 жыл бұрын
watching you on a almost vintage Mac, 16 yrs old Mac PRO, and Im loving it...
@Hobbiekip
@Hobbiekip 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Adrian, how are you doing? Just wanted to chime in and thank you for sharing your expertise on troubleshooting amongst other things. You have a great impact on my understanding of logic boards and how they function!
@ninja011
@ninja011 3 жыл бұрын
@Adrian's Digital Basement The 386 board you have here, is one that was common for industrial workstations and space-saving units, to fit inside of a case that was more compact than normal. The space where the ram would be sticking up into was usually filled with disk drives and maybe a hard drive. Though, I saw mostly machines that had that board, if they had a hard disk, it was a disk on module setup.
@intel386DX
@intel386DX 3 жыл бұрын
Very cool BIOS SETUP :) especially the animations :D
@8BitRetroReFix
@8BitRetroReFix 3 жыл бұрын
Always a pleasure watching your videos Adrian.. you among other's have inspired me to start doing my own videos ... ;)
@whiskeyjuliet
@whiskeyjuliet 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great video Adrian!
@yeastboyuk
@yeastboyuk 3 жыл бұрын
Adrian, takes me back to my first pc, 286 12MHz 4Mb RAM and VGA graphics ! woo woo, was kicking in 1991. The only thing I have left of it is the cute little motherboard manual! Thanks for your channel, there was a charm in these systems that has been lost these days
@yeastboyuk
@yeastboyuk 3 жыл бұрын
@richard myer lol, indeed , my brother managed to get it wholesale at £30 / MB, £120 was a lot to add on for a student. What he didn't tell me was the finished PC didn't have an OS. My Formatted 40Mb HD just blinked a cursor at me! An education
@oldofftime
@oldofftime 3 жыл бұрын
I was about to start cleaning the (home) office, new video from Adrian... can't have anything done today... ;-)
@francoisfritz198
@francoisfritz198 3 жыл бұрын
next to you im some kind of ignorant restorer, battery leaking is the most nightmare ever and i appreciate to restore it with proper treatment and patch wire even if it s very time consumming! thanks a lot for all, take care, bye from France
@kaitlyn__L
@kaitlyn__L 3 жыл бұрын
I always thought the 286 didn’t get enough love. I’ve even seen it denigrated as merely a microcontroller or basically just an 8086. Sure, its protected mode wasn’t forward-compatible and it didn’t add as much new stuff as the 386 and 486, but it’s still a neat stepping stone. Lots of people often go from talking about the 8088/86 right to the 386.
@StuBonham
@StuBonham 3 жыл бұрын
Without further ado, I watched this video from Adrian as soon as I got the notification. Perfect COVID Saturday viewing
@mikeuk666
@mikeuk666 3 жыл бұрын
keep up the great work Adrian 🕹 ♥
@LarryDeSilva64
@LarryDeSilva64 3 жыл бұрын
Good job getting the 286 to work at least one board out of two is 50% not too bad of an average. The other one for sure can be useful for parts. Thanks for another great video.
@OzRetrocomp
@OzRetrocomp 3 жыл бұрын
Those DTK computers seemed to be everywhere in Australia in the late '80s, although it seems as though the majority of DOS machines Down Under were Taiwanese clones of one sort or another.
@bluebirdpod
@bluebirdpod 3 жыл бұрын
Taiwan made the best clone stuff, DTK was very good hardly any problems. Opti chipset motherboards had lots of problems. Tyan Titan motherboards were a little pricy but usually rock solid. they made very good boards back then. Shuttle Computer also made good boards. Most boards with the Vesa Local Bus slots had problems because those cheap Multi IO IDE cards did not align into the VLB slot very good. they shifted inside the slots from front to back, those where the days . . . . . . . . . (early 1990's working at a PC CLONE computer shop)
@more.power.
@more.power. 3 жыл бұрын
Your channel is so excellent thank you Adrian
@kaitlyn__L
@kaitlyn__L 3 жыл бұрын
Hearing you say “post codes” so many times was so strange to me! I know what it means in this context, but where I live, it’s like saying “zip code”. It’s almost as if I can feel my brain rewiring to accommodate the conflict with POST error codes (how I’ve always thought of it), haha
@muttBunch
@muttBunch 3 жыл бұрын
Regardless of winning and losing, I still watch Adrians videos all the way through and enjoy them either way ❤️
@angrydove4067
@angrydove4067 3 жыл бұрын
A good video tainted by being Rick Rolled numerous times by that little TV thing.
@cairsahrstjoseph996
@cairsahrstjoseph996 3 жыл бұрын
Dr. Adrian is on the cases!
@CaptSkidmark
@CaptSkidmark 3 жыл бұрын
Good job! I have a 5150 board with similar damage. I'm waiting for a delivery of patience before tackling it.
@brainiac9579
@brainiac9579 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, Adrian, a Word is made up of a lower and an upper Byte (16 bits). Still widely in use in the Automation Industry. Great Video, as always!
@bitoxic
@bitoxic 3 жыл бұрын
I am already 5 minutes into the video... maybe a little premature to say... but as always... another fanatastic video! 😁👍
@scottlarson1548
@scottlarson1548 3 жыл бұрын
This brought back memories of how hard I had to work to get everything in my PC working if I dared to buy a new motherboard. There was nothing but Usenet newsgroups to help me back then. Fortunately motherboards were so expensive back then that I didn't do it very often.
@proximap2151
@proximap2151 3 жыл бұрын
I love the trs-80 badge on your monitor.. lol my first computer was a trs-80!
@SomePeopleCallMeWulfman
@SomePeopleCallMeWulfman 3 жыл бұрын
That's a lot of memory modules on the 386 motherboard! I remember my first 386 came with SIPP modules.
@jameslewis2635
@jameslewis2635 3 жыл бұрын
That 386 board looks like it was probably quite highly specced for the day because of all that onboard memory, which I remember as being quite expensive. The fastest 386 series CPU I can remember was a 40mhz DX model which, I think, came onto the market either shortly before or at the same time as the first 486 chips.
@OzRetrocomp
@OzRetrocomp 3 жыл бұрын
Yep, the 386DX/40 was one of AMD's first 386-class chips (and arguably where the Intel vs AMD rivalry kicked off)...and kids these days reckon that Intel vs AMD kicked off with Ryzen. I wonder how many of those kids' dads had similar Intel vs AMD arguments when they were their age!
@jameslewis2635
@jameslewis2635 3 жыл бұрын
@@OzRetrocomp Yeah, and it started coming to a head when Intel decided to launch the Pentium range under a proper name rather than a number so that AMD couldn't make 'clone' CPU's after the 486 era.
@kaderud
@kaderud 3 жыл бұрын
So cool, I had the same 386 mobo in the late 80s, it had 4MB onboard and 4MB memory expansion board. Also, this is where my love for the AMI BIOS was born :)
@jabbawok944
@jabbawok944 3 жыл бұрын
Listening on headphones. Started bobbing my head to the intro. I’ll be doing big-fish, little-fish, cardboard box if there’s an 8-bit dance party.
@minty_Joe
@minty_Joe 3 жыл бұрын
Do Donkey Kong instead. :-)
@GabrielZ666
@GabrielZ666 3 жыл бұрын
The full Neon song is a masterpiece!
@rarbiart
@rarbiart 3 жыл бұрын
the 386 is a NEAT chipset, which was rather advanced/costly, mainly found on BAT form factor mainboard.
@ultrametric9317
@ultrametric9317 3 жыл бұрын
It *always* amazes me that you NEVER see an 80387 math coprocessor installed. Next to maxxing RAM and getting fast storage, no upgrade would make a bigger difference to performance. One reason the 486 was such a giant leap was the built-in math chip.
@danielmantione
@danielmantione 3 жыл бұрын
There wasn't a hell of a lot of software that did support the x87, so there wasn't much point buying one for the average person. It is exactly the integration in the 486 that made programmers start to use it.
@spacewolfjr
@spacewolfjr 3 жыл бұрын
I remember my family's first PC was a 386 whitebox from a company called "BOSS Computers". It wasn't until watching LGR's videos that I realized the case they used was a complete IBM 5170 (PC AT) rip off. It also had DIP memory but not very much, I recall we couldn't run Windows 3.1 on it due to the lack of memory.
@retropuffer2986
@retropuffer2986 3 жыл бұрын
Good to see some PC love. 😁
@CGIEBERT
@CGIEBERT 3 жыл бұрын
I did development like this motherboards with 486 up to Pentium III: one of my tools was a "BIOS" that only contains "Inc content of io 80" and jump back in "RESET vector" helps a lot in cases like this. You cannot read but measure frequency on data lines. Check voltage, clock and reset like you did is a good start. If this still does not work: mostly no fix possible. Btw: Having most adresslines high at BIOS is normal short after reset (reset is equvalent to a jump to FFFFFF0) as far as I remember.
@terryraymond7984
@terryraymond7984 3 жыл бұрын
I had a post card and never knew how to use it thanks
@akaJughead
@akaJughead 3 жыл бұрын
8 MB of RAM on a 386DX 16!? That probably would have been a pricey machine back in the day, that was a lot of memory for a 386.
@d2factotum
@d2factotum 3 жыл бұрын
The weird ISA slot with additional pins suggests there was something special about that machine--I don't think I've ever seen anything like that before.
@akaJughead
@akaJughead 3 жыл бұрын
@@d2factotum I've never seen anything like that either. too bad he couldn't get it running, it looks like it came from a unique machine.
@poofygoof
@poofygoof 3 жыл бұрын
I like to think that the system ran SCO at some point, although netware is also a possibility.
@solar3mpire
@solar3mpire 3 жыл бұрын
That magnifying Mitutoyo is a godsend (I also ordered one when you got one in a mail call)
@joe--cool
@joe--cool 3 жыл бұрын
Those are up to 400 bucks. WOW.
@millenniumtree
@millenniumtree 3 жыл бұрын
Holy COW that 386 is massive!!!
@garthhowe297
@garthhowe297 3 жыл бұрын
I started working for a PC reseller in 1990, and built a lot of systems, but I don't remember a system board having nearly that many dip sockets.
@aCivilServant
@aCivilServant 3 жыл бұрын
Would be really cool for you to make a retro 286 build off that board. Pity abut the 386 though.
@Natures_Intentions
@Natures_Intentions 3 жыл бұрын
Gotta love vintage computer motherboards!
@jimadams7765
@jimadams7765 3 жыл бұрын
Early congrats for the 100K. 💙💚💛🧡😊
@TheGreatAtario
@TheGreatAtario 2 жыл бұрын
Holy moly that's a lot of chips
@rwdplz1
@rwdplz1 3 жыл бұрын
"ISA and PCI card" HE'S A WITCH! A WITCH!
@ropersonline
@ropersonline 3 жыл бұрын
Ctrl + Alt + Esc is a combination I actually remember from one of those early barebones BIOSes. Not from the nice AMIBIOS, but from some stupid early BIOS from way back when. Maybe from a 386SX.
@Douglasvj
@Douglasvj 3 жыл бұрын
When I was 11 or 12 I had a 286 and 386 motherboard from second hand machines that people had given me. Somehow there was a BIOS password on the 386 machine and I didn't know how to get around that, so my solution was to move the 286 bios into the 386 motherboard. Worked like a charm!
@fabriciocabral3987
@fabriciocabral3987 3 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@sampoturunen9337
@sampoturunen9337 3 жыл бұрын
That 386 motherboard is so beutiful. And those rams, oh man!
@PatrickDunn13078
@PatrickDunn13078 3 жыл бұрын
On that first board the porch light was on but nobody was home!
@winstonsmith478
@winstonsmith478 3 жыл бұрын
On the '386 board, did you remove, deoxit, and reseat the socketed motherboard chipset ICs?
@corygraves2402
@corygraves2402 3 жыл бұрын
When he said green Krusties I pictured Krusty the clown from the Simpsons😂😂
@jaimecosta2966
@jaimecosta2966 3 жыл бұрын
excelente vídeo wish you well
@leadf00t
@leadf00t 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video quality. What camera are you using?
@phillipwigley6806
@phillipwigley6806 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Adrian's Digital Basement. I hope you are keeping well. I have a similar acorn archimedes A3000 Board with battery damage, and firstly let me say corrosion like this doesn't do any boards any good. The acidic or alcalinic fluids seep through the thin layers of copper or other metal tracks and render them unrepairable. I Know there are people on utube who have repaired similar boards to mine. He had quite a few whole computers so he could swap bits. I didn't. Good luck with yours. It all depends how long its been left to rot and how good the board was in the first place, and how pedantic and clever you are. I have put my one to one side for now untill I have accumulated more Knowlege or time. I live in Nottinghamshire England by the way. and have worked in an electronic sevicing center in Nottingham but I have now retired and just do bits to keep my hand in. Kindest regards Phill W
@andrewlittleboy8532
@andrewlittleboy8532 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, all them IC's!
@JapanPop
@JapanPop 3 жыл бұрын
I had a Chips 386sx-25 board just like that, but it had 30pin RAM slots. Only supported 2048k. I built a 286-16 with 4MB DIP RAM like that. My dad’s 286-12 with Harris chip had SIPP RAM. That was an outlier!
@joea3728
@joea3728 3 жыл бұрын
That 386 Motherboard Looks like one that I used to have. I still have the memory expansion board for it. It has 72, 1 meg 80ns Goldstar chips. I also noticed it has dual sockets on it. There are no markings other than the component Silkscreen. So I can't say for sure. Too bad it does not work.
@horaciosaucedo8114
@horaciosaucedo8114 3 жыл бұрын
very smart man
@ZerodJailbreak
@ZerodJailbreak 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like you missed a via on the backside of the board. There's what looks like a mangled one that you haven't repaired.
@wishusknight3009
@wishusknight3009 3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't mind taking a crack at that 386 board.
@shmehfleh3115
@shmehfleh3115 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, what's that little doohickey on your shelf that's showing the Atari logo and stuff? And where can I get one?
@hiroprotagonist1587
@hiroprotagonist1587 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know what it is but if you keep an eye on it you'll occasionally get rickrolled by it.
@jeffreyduncan4852
@jeffreyduncan4852 3 жыл бұрын
I was wondering the same thing. I was frantically googling and found nothing.
@Zeem4
@Zeem4 3 жыл бұрын
Many years ago I swapped the BIOS chips on an IBM 5170 AT with AMI BIOS ROMs from a broken generic clone motherboard. The main advantage was that it contained a ROM-based setup utility, rather than having to boot the setup floppy every time as the IBM had no battery in it. I seem to recall that it also allowed me to use 3.5" disks in 720K format, where the original IBM BIOS would only support 5.25" drives. I sold the machine a few years ago due to shorted tantalum capacitors on the board, and a lack of space and time to do anything with it.
@ForteIDB
@ForteIDB 3 жыл бұрын
had this exact same issue with a Varta battery on a 486SX motherboard. luckily the traces weren't completely damaged and after a few good scrubs with vinegar and alcohol, posted with no problem. those batteries are a public menace though.
@autohmae
@autohmae 3 жыл бұрын
Man,what a special board this is....
@chadhartsees
@chadhartsees 3 жыл бұрын
That machine was a monster with that much RAM in 1989.
@alisharifian535
@alisharifian535 3 жыл бұрын
Those flashing colors has meaning,they are debug colors,they show up when computer passes a specific stage in booting or rebooting.
@teekay_1
@teekay_1 3 жыл бұрын
I believe MS's Xenix/286 that was one of the few OS's (other than the first versions of OS/2) that would take advantage of the 286 chip.
@SidneyCritic
@SidneyCritic 3 жыл бұрын
The way the card socket is corroded, it might be under that one. Would've like to have seen some voltages checked.
@pivanow1
@pivanow1 3 жыл бұрын
I have a DTK 386 class machine with a big board and the setup screen seems to be exactly the same. That motherboard has a Dallas DS1287 real time IC with that creepy internal battery who was preventing the setup settings to be saved... I had to service the IC and install an external 2032 battery before being able to boot the machine... I guess you should make a video about these Dallas DS1287 some day, it would be useful for somebody.
@paulclarkson2583
@paulclarkson2583 Жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this video, very engaging! I have an issue with my Rog Maximus hero extreme my bios battery split and ran in to my Pcie slot, I have no idea if it is the cause of my stability issues but I only ever get stability when my GPU was in slot 2. Do you have any advice for me and my situation please. I'm lost trying to find a company to repair it, seems a rare trade nowadays.
@perhansson6718
@perhansson6718 3 жыл бұрын
I would lift the P82C206 chipset PLCC and check for corrosion since it is so close in proximity to the battery leakage and handles the CMOS
@Toby1952
@Toby1952 3 жыл бұрын
Adrian, at 17:17 when you were working on the 386 motherboard I see what looks like are pin headers that are bent and touching each other (left edge of the board). Even at 1080p I can't see that area clearly, but I thought I would point it out in case there were any jumpers shorting against each other.
@adriansdigitalbasement
@adriansdigitalbasement 3 жыл бұрын
I just took a quick look and none are touching now so I must have straightened whatever was bent out. Still no dice Thanks for the tip though!
@kaylaandjimbryant8258
@kaylaandjimbryant8258 3 жыл бұрын
I had the 1987 version of that dtk board. I ran it hard for five years until I got my '486-66 in '93. Never had a single problem with it, but my ST-4096 (80M MFM drive formatted for about 150 megs using a sequel erll controller) made some really hideous sounds when it died in '92. The dtk board might still be out there somewhere, who knows. Those '286s were freaking workhorses. Got a bit warm, but never needed a heatsink, unlike my current rigs, both delidded, using conductonaut & kryonaut, with 240mm AIOs, then again, this 8086K is a wee bit faster.
@charlescostain8066
@charlescostain8066 3 жыл бұрын
Remember on old old boards.. it is typically best practice to insert the vga card into the first isa / pci slot.
@Fridelain
@Fridelain 3 жыл бұрын
"let's stick it randomly at the end of the board" "my wire is tight, barely reaches" lol
@terryraymond7984
@terryraymond7984 3 жыл бұрын
it has power, you can check for 3.3 VDC on the power connector that plugs into the MB!
@bitslasher89
@bitslasher89 2 жыл бұрын
I have a very similar 386 board, a SY-011, a 386DX-16 with 8MB on board and the 386 copro... it also is currently suffering a hangover from the "battery juice." Mine at least tries to post-- it stops at post code 0x20, and then beeps and shows a message on the screen: "CMOS INOPERATIVE." I'm at the stage of trying to figure out if I have any bad traces. Seeing what you did here helps a lot! I'd gone a long time without an EPROM programmer, but this repair has finally pushed me over the edge. Wanted to be able to read the BIOS and make sure it wasn't corrupted. If anyone has dealt with this particular error before, tips are welcome! I do have a related question: So when these Varta batteries do their worst-- and cause massive corrosion all over the place-- what's going on there? I don't mean right around where the battery is, and gravity could have pulled the battery acid "down hill." I mean at some distance away, like pins inside a nearby slot, or pins inside a chipset socket? It's almost like the battery has a "vapor" that is evaporating and travels in the air and condenses back onto metal surfaces?
@BigBud69
@BigBud69 3 жыл бұрын
Now you have to put that fixed 286 MB into a case for a retro PC build LOL
@chriswatson2407
@chriswatson2407 3 жыл бұрын
Swaps bios chips. Fun, but insane!
@cleetusmacfarland9453
@cleetusmacfarland9453 3 жыл бұрын
I'm bad, the only thing I saw there was some good Agnus sockets and a bunch off TTL and ram chips for Commodore repairs
@batlin
@batlin 3 жыл бұрын
28:20 nice, I had a feeling it might be a Y2K bug in the setup program...
@retrogamer33
@retrogamer33 3 жыл бұрын
All that RAM on-board the 386 deserves a RAMMY moment.
@morgorth3242
@morgorth3242 3 жыл бұрын
so what haped with that power suply repair onthe SGI system??
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