I don't usually comment on vids but nice one. You explained something that has been plaguing me for a while when i write a specific genre. Thanks dude.

The buzzy saw/sine sound you made in the saturation section was because when you add non-factory waveforms into Serum, for whatever reason a lot of times it chops off a little part of the first cycle, giving that cycle a buzzy sound every time it happens , hence only the first cycle having that buzz, then smoothing out in the second cycle.

My first time seeing your vids, great job!

Super helpful tips with the sub frequencies, thanks man!

You're a great teacher man. Very informative.

Extremely informative. Essential information no matter what daw software you're running

Thank you for pointing out that sub bass key thing. If anyone would tell me this couple years ago, I would not believe it. But all my mobile dj experience is telling that it's pretty much true.

Simple and effective, I like it. I think if I was going down to some of those lower 'no-go' sub frequencies for a while, I would automate those higher harmonics to be a bit louder so that even though the full punch of the sub wouldn't be there, the progression would still be audible. In music the brain fills in the gaps surprisingly often.

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Make sure to pull down the random knob on the OSC so that the phase starts at the beginning of each midi notes. In this instance, the re-sampled wavetable phase was offset.

Nice video! I'd actually stay away from saturation, amps and filters on the sub itself, as it often kills the fundamental and/or introduces unwanted offsets and phase shifts. Better to get your harmonics at oscillator level if you can, and Serum is perfect for it since you can get all the harmonics you need into one perfect osc cycle, giving it more predictable phase and easier for any physical speaker to play. Better to add presence on a separate sub layer with distortion etc. that's highpassed as the last step and mixed in gently to complement the sub. You should also be aware that the MG filter in Serum introduces DC offset as part of its sweet, sweet sound, so you actually kill 2-4db of headroom by using it rather than the normal filter. I recommend using the Filtered Saw wavetable that comes stock with Serum in Osc 2 instead if you wanna add harmonics. Try watching your waveform through scopes like Vengeance or Melda (both free) switching filters and you'll see the difference is pretty severe. Some advanced tricks in Serum I wanna throw it out here in case it helps anyone (assuming you know Serum basics) : First understand the principle of using bins to create your own oscillator waveforms. Create a primary sub sine using bins, a secondary an octave above, adjust volume to taste, and a third going either a major 3rd over, or a perfect 5th. This is going to be the deep sub that goes down to C1, so play C1 notes and adjust the upper partials/harmonics so they're audible on smaller systems. Now, make another window in the wavetable editor, and make the same combination of bins - only this time play bright C2 notes and adjust the upper partials to not give that intrusive bright sub feel. Now select both and edit - morph spectral to get a smooth transition between them. You can now adjust the amount of harmonics in your osc (and it's cycle perfect, so no worrying about different oscillators going in and out of phase) using the WT Position knob, having perfect sub from one oscillator. Now assign the keytracking modulation (lower right corner by velocity) to the WT Position (you might have to tweak the curve) and your sub harmonics is now getting lowered as you play higher notes! This way you can go as deep as C1 and still be audible on smaller systems, and you can control that feeling of sitting inside a vacuum when the pitch goes higher. I prefer to assign the keytracking to the Osc volume as well, so the volume lowers a little when the moves go up. Again, tweak the keytracking curve so you don't lose any power around your fundamental key. If you want to take it even further, you can actually make a third wavetable with a C0 on it that keytracks in, so you start filling in the lower end when you play higher notes. The principle is like a Shepard tone, like a spiral for sound. Or you can AM (amplitude modulation) a C2 with a C1 to fake the movement of C1, getting a slight C1 feel. SORRY FOR WALL OF TEXT FOLKS

Thank you man, simple and to the point. I am totally amateur trance producer, actually not even close to the commercial standards but I strongly think that SUB can push to 80ish Hz. At least that is how I treat it. Other than that it is crystal clear. All the best. Thank you.

With the notes, with the sub notes you saved me. Thank you, oh really thank you

Hey bro, Thanks for the tutorial.. Very well explained.. Worth it!

that chekky little resample to oscilator B was the business my g. good trick

This is some twisted dark magic, the whole distortion thing is very well known but the way you resample the waveform in serum is some serious shit!

Helpful video! What are you using to record your voice, the screen and the computer audio?

really really good Video. this is what i am looking for. understanding it. what is the name of the spectrum you use?

Thank you, this video helped me out 😊

Great work dude!

I am working on a song in c# but the subbass has a lot of power at around 65hz and it seems to work pretty well so I don't know about that chart you provided on which notes work in sub frequencies and which ones don't.

Great video, up to you saying "I hate spring reverbs" lol.

I assume you produced the beat that starts at 9:21 ? The subs sound super clean and professional as hell. Do you have any vids showing your workflow from start to finish? That mix sounds really nice and it would be extremely helpful to get to see your process.

Really helpful! Thank a lot !

Great video!! Thanks!

if u are doing this does it alter the original sin wave that is the sub frequency? i heard a woofer can struggle moving sub frequencys that are not a sin

Very helpful, thanks...

very useful , thanks!

very useful! thanks a lot for this video :)

Maaaan, thanks for your videos :) i really improved a lot

learned something from this, but since in the context it's important: the note at 5:14 is not F# but A#. Quite high and more easily audible even without harmonics. Great video anyways

If ur saving u cant go lower then 40 hz to get a good sound How do they munipulate the sub to have a deeper/almost lower octave with the same animation of a melody with out changing the over all tone Are they running multiple midi tracks changeing the eq and saturation of the octave as the track progresses or am i missing something

With adding those extra harmonics aren't you gonna be cutting those frequencies out anyhow to make room for the kick? What is this talk about a "mid sub" Could you elaborate on that as well.

but what does saturation give me for a real subbass that is highcutted at 70 to 80hz... do i still got advantages of a distortion?

If say you track was in f minor and you bass was hitting the note f would it be OK to have your sub underneath hitting the note g

Hi bro ! First, thanks for this tutorial. Second. I’ve actually struggled a lot with this subject. A lot of times I have Made a clean sub, and layer a bass on top of it to make it audioable on phones etc but I’m afraid it Can get messy layering the lowend. So - maybe this is a better Way. Would you always go for saturating the sub instead of layering it with a bass?

Do you think there should only be one instance of sub bass plugin used in a song? Or can it be used more than once? Should it only be used on kick or bass or what about master buss? What do you think they are doing on post Malone “circles” ? Only on kick or drum bus?

Great video

Kool bro thank yu

although testing that the range from G1 range for ableton is in the 90hz range not deep enough

whats the name of the outro song?

Is that the sound effect from "Pony" by Ginuwine in the outro song? 9:31

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great one

I mean you could sidechain...

Damn that worked! Thank you!

Is d sharp/ e flat still good?

Your voice is so mesmerizing

Simple, to the point

Will start used "saucy" as a descriptive word also.....😂 But seriously nice quick tip vid....as usual you always get it right

Nice upload

My sub bass creates a lot pressure to the ear. I want to reduce the pressure. How can I reduce the hardness?

In EDM is the kick the important thing .. or the sub ?

whats the beat at the end ?

"Emotionality" is a perfectly cromulent word. Keep on using it.

Please be Echo......hell yeah

I would believe the optimal frequency range for sub bass as you described, but I find lot of tracks lately on EDM that go down to C0, for example check out SHM Heaven takes you home. So I’m questioning, is really that bad too go lover then E?

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The song 'Take u there' by Jack u is in C .

So whats the problem if my "sub" bass is above 62 hz?

On serum with just a init sine g1 is one octave up at 98 hz but with nexus g1 is 49hz. So serum is off by 1 octave up by default? i have to shift down 1 octave to get 49hz in serum which in the piano roll is G0

do one on psytrance bass, tricky asf

Tip 4. Add stereo widening to the higher frequencies of the sound.

wow I didnt know you could resample post effects! thats cool!

Nice. Want to add: you can definitely go outside this sub range. I know you mentioned this but Team Sleep's "Foreign Flag" is a perfect example. I think the song is in E but they hit a fat B0 during the chorus. I think B0 is about as low as you want to go but I'll agree you probably don't want to use that as a Big Room drone.

Check out MR bills tutorial on subs with the oscilloscope 👍🏼

how to remove initial click sound from sub bass

thank you for the tutorial. very helpful. i recently spilled some orange juice in my kitchen and i was wondering if i could use the broom on your head to clean it up.

this is magic!!!

In what frequency range and on what octaves is the sub-bass??? (EDM) (20-150 Hz)

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Hate spring reverbs ? Try Softube one. Pan first one 100% left and other one with slightly different settings 100% to the right and you will have just great atmosphere...

Well that makes sense :)) thx

Please do Tips for a Perfect Sidechain!! I waste so much time A/B’ing various SC Comps against LFO Tool just trying to find the best settings on every track I do. So inefficient and there has to be an easier way to quickly dial in settings to get the bass out of the way of the kick, and do it transparently!

when i bounce the sub in audio file , it gives quick mid range attack sound on starting of each note although i have cut all mid & high freq. how to fix this?

My subwoofer box is tuned to 32hz I would say the scale is more like between 30 and 60 30 and 70hz & below that's what my high pass cut off is set at on my crossover

That's really sad to hear, that there isnt even a whole octave to work with. I suppose it's not the end of the world if you push it a bit on the high side though.. I did notice its hard to work with subs when I'm in C. Now I know why, thanks

Dont these upper harmonics muddy up other areas of the mix? I typically have two separate instruments for sub and bass. I tend to leave just a little bit of crossover frequencies around 90hz. Typically for me, above 100hz is just the bass instrument and below 70 is just the sub. I m concerned that if the sub instrument occupies frequencies above 100hz, its gonna start interfering with my bass and muddy up that area.

The key doesn't matter as much so long as you're conscious about what you're doing. Want a low C in that octave? Make sure you got harmonics in that wave. Want to go higher? Then your kick will fill the sub bass and you can EQ some of the bass frequencies differently. No rules, mixing is an art.

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Sub bass with kicks is pretty even in Trap, especially like mambo from tropkillaz. BAM OOOOO vs. Like Alone Marshmallow which is baOOOOOM baOOOOOOOOOM. or like Arby's Burial BAM oooom BAoom , BAoom BAMbooom. But again, some of the best are even kicks with subs (bam is kick boom or ooo is sub bass wuuuuuh). Like for example Monxx Paradise and some other stuff; BAM BOOOOM BAOOOM BAOOOM BAOM BAOM BAOM BAOM BAOM BAOM BOOM, BAOOOOOOM BAOOOOOM BAOOOOM ETC.. or another dubstep, Louder from flux pavilion. Just thought I'd say this.

The natural harmonics are 2nd at one octave & 3rd at 1+5th of an octave. Adding saturation is a dirty way of doing this, but lacks control. If you remove the fundamental 1st harmonic you get the psycho-acoustic illusion on bass, i.e. bass on laptop speakers. Watch the philosophy of bass video on KZfaq

Always put reverb on ur sub

i dont get it, so are we never supposed to make songs in the other keys in red? don't all songs require a sub? or no

I would separate these into two layers.. one for low and one for high, then glue them together. Just a thought.. good tutorial though.

Can you recreate a bass like the one in Ella Mai - Breakfast in bed?

So if my fundamental is a D I'm pretty much screwed?

Can I blend a true bass-guitar sound and a sub bass? 🤔

Mood... is the word your looking for

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You know what they say, only tracks in G# make hits. Duh.

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I'm considering emotionality a word. From here on

i do D# Note

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Sub Bass = 32Hz highest. So low enough to not tell what the note is but to feel a rumble and hear a noise

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I'd say B0 is as low as you can go

How to make cool sub bass? Put reverb on sub bass 😎