Advanced OpenTTD - Self-Regulating Networks

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4 жыл бұрын

Self-regulating networks are a type of advanced network where trains are controlled not by their orders, but by pathfinder traps and logic circuits. This video is an introduction to the weird world of SRNW.
Link to PSG 275: wiki.openttdcoop.org/PublicServer:Archive_-_Games_271_-_280#gameid_275
Orderless SRNW w/ Multiple Cargos Demo by jewo GRFS: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ZpaCmZilsbjakac.html
Music: Pixel by boxboys boxboys.bandcamp.com/track/p-i-x-e-l-2
OpenTTDCoop Wiki on SRNW: wiki.openttdcoop.org/Self-regulating_Network (poorly written)

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@LugnutsK 4 жыл бұрын

Orderless SRNW w/ Multiple Cargos, demo by jewoGRFS: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ZpaCmZilsbjakac.html

@Quiltfish 4 жыл бұрын

Sure, it works, but imagine being a passenger at that Berkeley station. You have to board at the far platform from the town, roll 20 meters, transfer to a closer platform on the other side of the train, board another train and only then get to go towards your destination. People would riot at the ticket office.

@LugnutsK 4 жыл бұрын

Yes >:D Maybe the transfer station at the very end of the video is more realistic, but then that has the logic trains spinning around. SRNW doesn't score that well for realism :p

@damian_madmansnest 4 жыл бұрын

You could market dummy train as some sort of high-tech moving waiting hall 😂

@HelmutKohlrabi 3 жыл бұрын

And the guy at the ticket office tops it off by requesting the Passierschein A38 to exit the train maze.

@vgg175 Жыл бұрын

pretty accurate to inter-european rail

@PaulFisher 3 ай бұрын

in fairness, as an openttd passenger, you don’t really have a “destination” per se. it’s as if you walk into the train station in a daze, wanting to go *somewhere* and getting on literally the first train that will take you, lacking any concern about where it may or may not go.

@FHBStudio 2 жыл бұрын

1:19 "Next stop.... I don't know!"

@videogames991 4 жыл бұрын

im crying rn you have little slugs going into massive slugs this shit got me in literal tears+

@KashouWannabe 4 жыл бұрын

Been playing OpenTTD for a couple of years, it is of a genre that I dabbled with back when I was a kid; A-Train on the Amiga 1200. TPF1 is great and all, but there is something that always draws me back to OpenTTD. I find your videos on logic gates and such totally mind bending, but it goes to show what the software is capable of with the right GRFs. As much as I enjoy your series' I love your one off videos, great for inspiration and new ideas. So, thanks!

@LugnutsK 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your wonderful comment!

@null_subject 2 жыл бұрын

I hope you are aware that A-Train is still going very strong to this day! The latest version just released this September (2021).

@Dextrian1 4 жыл бұрын

Really interesting and technical video, thank you for your time and effort!

@daniel69 3 ай бұрын

This is just art at this point.

@beauxguss6321 8 ай бұрын

I've found that with no orders (except dummy) a few backwards facing path signals is all you need to control. That is, one back facing at the decision point, one on the main line after the decision point and a regular forward facing signal at the waiting position. Back facing paths don't force orderless trains to stop the way forward facing ones do, so they act more like block signals on the main line, but will always send a train to a forward facing signal first. Also, if you have a path signal on the waypoint side of the dummy platform, then make the dummy orders to the far end, it will turn around before unloading, allowing the waiting train to enter the station while unloading is still taking place. Wouldn't have figured any of this out without your primer... thanks @LugnutsK I've learned so much from your videos.

@IlayarajaS1997 4 жыл бұрын

Wonderful video as always. It does look fun to make.

@pablo.g 4 жыл бұрын

Great video, good to see you back!

@cavorkehl6777 2 жыл бұрын

When you realize passengers have to wait in empty cities with only train rails, those stations designs feels like sci-fi or cyberpunk scenes.

@Random0890_ 8 ай бұрын

1:05 you're telling me I could have done this the entire time instead of changing the entire schedule every time I add a station I wish I knew of this before

@RedSaint83 Жыл бұрын

Brilliant. I've hit 500+ hours in OpenTTD, and had just gotten bored of the regular way of playing it. Learning this mechanic I might squeeze another couple of hundred hours out of the game :)

@jewoGRFS 4 жыл бұрын

And that's what I call The Perfect Manual 👀👌👍👏

@UntouchedWagons 3 жыл бұрын

I may use the dummy train mechanic but god damn the rest of that is just absurd.

@Yvax99 4 жыл бұрын

WE ARE BACK BOIS!

@PiotrDzialak 3 жыл бұрын

You are crazy (and it works)

@FHBStudio 2 жыл бұрын

I can only pity all of those passengers. And train conductors. Nice cash tho.

@srulyfasten1039 4 жыл бұрын

Finally

@Gamer-Clark 3 ай бұрын

12:09 Sadly the save game download of the coop game doesn’t seem to work for me. It’s taken me a long time to understand the design of the sub network for the pickup / transfer trains. The reversers hidden in tunnels are the key to encourage trains to take the waiting bays.

@KhanterWinters 4 жыл бұрын

I missed ur videos! So this would solve issues of giving orders all time? Also, that road newgrf, is of Europe Newgrf or US?

@LugnutsK 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, you can add more stations to a SRNW without needing to make new trains/orders! Road GRF is the American Road Replacement Set.

@leediffusion 4 жыл бұрын

I'd missed your video's! Partly because KZfaq had unsubscribed me

@LugnutsK 4 жыл бұрын

Oh no!

@siri_cz685 3 жыл бұрын

5:29 would it be possible to use entry signal on the entrance and exit signal on the splitted tracks and on the station route don't put any signals untill the station? I think that would be a bit easier that needing to turn on the two-way command

@siri_cz685 3 жыл бұрын

Btw sorry for bad explanation. English isn't my first language and I am still learning it, so sorry bout that

@CiaranMaxwell 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, but that wouldn't force a full load. The goal was to force a full load. Edit: Your English is fine. I have yet to see someone who offers that apology and is worse than a native speaker. (They're usually better than most native speakers!)

@siri_cz685 2 жыл бұрын

@@CiaranMaxwell oh yea, now I understand, thanks

@S.Gamedev-zc2wp 28 күн бұрын

Open and exit signal can work instead of 2 way eol, no need to change settings

@kevinwatts8221 3 жыл бұрын

Couldn't you make it so the next train doesn't go to Oxford UNTIL the full load has transferred and is waiting?

@Duck1en 2 жыл бұрын

So i can't do it without the console command? I wanted to try in the multiplayer

@dayman888 2 жыл бұрын

Where do you get all those different types of signals from? I only have a few signal types.

@mmneander1316 Жыл бұрын

I understand that in newer releases of the game, the UI by default shows only path signals and not the "classical" entry/exit/combo signals. But you can still re-enable those "classical" signals in your Settings.

@dayman888 Жыл бұрын

@@mmneander1316 Sweet, thanks!

@mmneander1316 Жыл бұрын

@@dayman888 My pleasure. :-)