Thank you so much. The loss of personal will is rarely spoken of, and the loss of even the personal interest in spirituality is actually never mentioned at all other than to point out how lazy the disciple seems to be. That is what I received. So my advice is: accept to do things you really have to do, from a function place. Just do. Do not at all fight against the lack of will or interest or blame yourself. Trust the process. The process is actually who you are. Everything you lose is meant to set you free. 🙏

Ego says I'm lazy and I need to get a full-time job. God says sitting in fear and dissolving is my full-time job :)

When you have an aim, but no energy, it might be better to drop the aim and become aimless, yet with energy. Then goals might become reachable without having reached for them.

This has been happening for years and it's not fun Moments of bliss but manim surrounded by motivated people It's lonely

I may be 10 years late on listening to this message. But goodness me , such a relief. 💚

I have been in this limbo, faling apart for about two years now. Sometimes it can be very confusing. Although I had awesome spiritual honeymoon and was once very clear I started seeking again, because of how confused I was. The mind cannot hold the orientation of its own surrender for very long. It feels like god is dragging me in and I am kicking and screaming, not knowing what is happening, helpless and hopeless. Ideas of responsibility towards somebody else, keeping and making promises, this or that should hapen is really the egoic hook for this body. I am really not sure I can ever again provie somebody with value to make money. That is my personal hell. I hope god finishes soon i have no nails no more.

This video had a huge impact on me. I just realized that for the past 6 years, all of the decisions I've made to help make my life better were actually causing me more suffering because they were coming from my head-centric intellect/ego which uses logical and rational reasoning to make decisions. Telling myself what I "Should" and "Shouldn't" do. I realized that I am caught in the trap. Now is when I realize that the best way forward is to go inwards through meditation and conquer the ego so I can listen to the voice of my true self, not the fake self (ego). Decisions and choices should be made by following gut and intuition.

I really needed this. I am experiencing exactly what this woman is feeling.

„The very effort to escape IS suffering. The attempt to escape delusion is the highest form of delusion there is“

Went through this process last year and it was crazy. It feels as if the ground you’ve been walking on your whole life was taken away.. best thing to do is not to cling to anything and just let yourself fall away..

Exactly this. “Thy will be done.”

Oh I love every word of this video!!! I experienced this fierce grace several years ago. I was angry, scared, desperate, and above all - unloved by existence itself. I studied psychology at the time and they talked about experiments developing "learned helplessness". I was reading about it and crying in complete desperation (and helplessness) because I saw that it was exactly what existence was doing to me - whatever I did (or did not do), I was "punished" by life, nothing worked. My negative, positive, or neutral responses - all were wrong. At some stage I even thought that life was pushing me towards suicide because it just did not want me here. I could see that other people were making severe mistakes and yet they were supported by life, while I was painfully punished for everything. As Adyashanti says - everything "unceremoniously is taken away". But yes, I can see now that it was an act of a great compassion and so his words sounded like music to me.

Such a profound and beautiful talk about dissolving the self! Thank you🙏🏻

I love this message. I get it, I'm living it, I understand it and I can be with the bliss of the nothingnesst, but it's very inconvenient for being self-supporting financially. I generate income via my offerings in my business and it's challenging when I don't feel motivated to create anything. My worried mind is not on board with the nothingness, either. I'm not sure how to navigate this, but I'll show up as needed. I am looking forward to seeing how this unfolds and where it leads me.

Boy did I need this. Lost in limbo. No longer afraid. thank you love

I used to be "clinically" depressed, but that's gone - sitting for years and self inquiry blew that away, it was NOT easy, but it worked. Maybe the sitting is getting to other layers of thought patterns that I could live without, when they surface it's not easy, but I look at them. I think the wants are draining because I know, at the heart of it, that even if I got what I wanted, it wouldn't wake me up, it would just make me satisfied for a while. Thanx for the replies, much appreciated.

Thank you, I have experienced being empty and have seen my no thing ness. This assisted me in understanding what it was that I underwent. I have never heard anyone say anything about the empty and nothingness like that. You have to actually experience it to know it.

Well I can give you empathy that's for sure. You're not lazy, you're seeing that worldly rewards are not what will do it for you - not really. The more time passes, the more that stuff looks like a lie. What I decided to do is start meditating again everyday and I have started to learn a martial art. It's amazing how much I'm learning about myself with Kung Fu and during those classes I do feel motivated. Anyway, it's your ego telling you you're a 'lazy slob'. You're not.

So beautifully articulated. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

This is an issue for me - I own businesses and have many employees. My family depends on me to provide a safe life for them. My businesses cannot fail, or I will lose everything for the rest of my life. Adya can say "it's ok" because he makes his living with his words. The rest of us in society make our living through our work. Not enough gurus address this. Business performance often depends on high activity levels and requires exercising the ego. I can say "oh I need to find freedom and peace so I just need to stop trying" but this is completely selfish and will cause immense suffering for my family. So I consider it my spiritual practice to sublimate my ascension process for the good of those whom I love. Christ on the cross. Put me up there too. I achieve spiritual surrender and freedom by taking my responsibilities seriously. I feel a deep sense of responsibility to my family and the families of my staff to use my business abilities and provide. Monks and gurus have a place in society, but they also must remember that most humans must produce more than they consume in order to add to society and care for the people around them. My highest love for the world is to exercise my gifts in a way that provides for those who cannot care for themselves without me.

Thank you Thank you and so many more. This is where I have been and from which I have been slowly, gently emerging. Every single word was a perfectly accurate description of my experience, confusion, and fear. You have confirmed what I had dared hope. I'm coming home.

Wow this is profound. Something like this happened to me sometime ago, it was so uncomfortable, yet so exquisitely beautiful. So awesome to hear insight that helps explain this experience.

Thank you Adya - always right there and on the case.

I'm not depressed, but yeah, maybe this is apathy - I just don't know. My wants or desires are going and nothing much seems to be replacing them. I guess I can just keep sitting...

It's the falling away of desire wich triggers some part of your true self : emptiness, love spontaneous act... thanks

Thank you for posting this video! It's extremely helpful.

That is true so...even more we see duality...even more it haunts u= 2 grazy all of it= feels like a extraordinary mindlabyrinth...not a nice play at all....though u also can not really go back where u were...u just rather deal with it better...when u not care or worry about it anymore and maybe just chill out in it. Thx 4 the uploud...perfect timing.❤

I have this for several years, but found some great relief in new knowledge. For me always fear of meaningless life comes up. I learned that fear does not exists, only love. I always tried to fight meaninglessness with searching for things to do, which made the fear worse, because I couldnt find anything fun to do... What helps me very good is to remind myself of the real truth. There is only love! What I am feeling is fear, but this is an illusion, it doesnt exists. Remind yourself fear does not exists. Everything is one. Denial of illusions works very good. This helps me to get out of the feeling very fast, to make room and remove the blockage of the energy which gives you strenght in the situation you are in.

Thank you. I’m smack bam in the middle of this 🙏

Thank you, I so needed this today following return from Vipassana and trying to get back to my business. Lost interest and identity - spot on! Really helpful

This is helpful. I’ve been going to different healing practitioners to help get me ‘back on track’ but just wasted thousands off $ and none of what they suggested worked. Right now I can’t’ do’ anything. That’s been stressing me out but have to accept and surrender. Thank you Adya. 🌟🙏

Adyashanti helps me realise that it's okay to have your personhood completely melt away. What else is the spiritual path for than to dissolve all ideas of individual self? Embrace and experience the beauty inherent in letting go

ohhhh right, its like I thing I should and have to do this, but while im trying to do it energy is just not wanting to do it at all

Personal will - I'm starting to get that it's a crock. It's been draining out of me like a tire with a small hole in it. And he's right, it's not romantic. I don't want this or that, but I should. I don't want to achieve whatever is supposed to be worth achieving. Ego tells me that I just need to fall in love with someone - as if that would do it. I don't even have enough to want to snap out of it. How long does this last??????? IT'S A DRAG.

From my own experience, it is important to distinguish genuine clinical issues from increasing insight into no-self (though all illness is an opportunity to gain insight). Once I received proper medical care for my mental issues, my moods stabilized and I felt more alive. The anxiety of seeing into impermanence is still there, but I can integrate the feelings better without the chemical imbalance in my brain.

💙thanku for your profound guidance...really helps me to gain perspective and so keep doin wat im doin...nothing much at all....because i dont want to distract....jus observing from a kind of apprehensive surrender🤔💜its like being in contracted labour..as th mother AND th unborn babe...💞

Oh thank goodness Google recommended this today. Right on time.

I LOVE YOU ADYASHANTI !!! THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU

No I don't think things are falling apart. You can't lose something you haven't got.

Yesss!!! I found myself in a very isolated location when the lockdowns started and had already been here and not super happy about it. With being very cooped up and totally alone I became extremely upset and sad (samsara). Finally one day I just surrendered it all and began meditating and from here my true happiness grew daily. I can't tell you how trapped I felt and unable to change much about my life. But here is where I found my spiritual freedom.

what's crazy is when you continue thinking i can do it , i can control it, even after years and years of experience shows otherwise.

Ah I see. Finding the motivation to keep seeking the truth has been key for me when the nihilistic feelings such as you describe come billowing up. I remind myself that there is no way out but through, as this is the state of the universe for all things to arise and pass. And also that it is indeed possible to integrate such an apparently monstrous realization, by listening to inspirational teachers such as Adya, who excels at describing the richness and freedom of the awakened state.

This last year has been a case of losing my spiritual identity, the idea of "what a good meditator/practitioner I am" and so hearing talks like this is very helpful.

So beautiful...

Thank you! thank you.

“Immediately after the interaction with the police officer I just wanted to get out of there. It just wasn’t me,” he said. “I’ve always been regretful and ashamed of being there, not because I’m in trouble but because I saw what happened and it was disgusting.” Rich is usually filling vanity.

Thank you so much Adya. 🙏

Beautiful and true

thank you ..love you

@Andrew Fury Thank you so much. You are kind to send me a message .not many ppl care even thou they are massive in spiritual mastery...makes no sense at all...

Enjoying everyone’s comments and sharing. Thank you. Is there a forum where I can connect into a community who are sharing about this process? 🙏

Thank you

Thank You ❤

It’s like quicksand

no energy to study or doing homework....

The fear of letting go

Well I'm in a sort of limbo for years now...But it changes constantly. Everything changes all the time, personality falls away then changes then falls away again...Maybe there is a huge resistance here or there is just an enjoyment of suffering. Or just is what it is, it's irrelevant anyway :)

Namaste 🙏

he went on to make his point with that parable, even though he said it backwards.....xxx

Well I see myself as a great artist and I love my work which I do from my heart , my work is a very important part of me it tells me my life story as well, and the story of humanity...and with my works sucess I want to be able to provide for the homeless people in the world as well... Does it means I must or should stop doing what I love , give everything up, go and live under the bridge...?? 😳😥My work is a God gaven talent and I can not just give it up this is a part of my life...! Thank you God for my amazing talents...Thank you for the video and interesting info...Namaste!!❤

Pick up an activity that feeds your spirit like yoga, meditating, or a martial art and make those activities your focus. Everything else is just everything else. I've come to the point where I know that until I dissolve all of my false beliefs, chasing this or that is stupid. Good luck lizr8484 - at the very least, you know you're not the only one in that place.

Just a thought... Luke 22:42 NLT 42 “Father, if you are willing, please take this cup of suffering away from me. Yet I want your will to be done, not mine.”🙏

How does one differentiate loss of personal drive from apathy or cynicism?

oh yes it is really is im in that place now i dont know what to do wih myself feel like a lazy slob but i have zero motivation and it seems to be lasting forever dont know what to do ammusi have you got your motivation back yet???

Having a hard time with Spiritual contradictions. On the other hand somebody else will tell you you are God and you can change your life with the right application of your mind. By raising your vibrational frequency you can make the law of attraction work for you, vla vla vla !!! So which one is the truth? Surrendering/giving up on everything or trying to change everything?

that's right....it's easier for a camel to pass through....not sure why he didn't catch that. I love Adya.....

I am resisting having unwanted throughts, as I want to live in a thoughtless state, which is my personal will..... The more resisting I am, the more I feel caught up, and very tired in this closed loop. This is exatly what Adya said.... I need to open myself to everything without a trace of resistence.... Live as a whole, not as a isolated me....

how can i we have a true self, AND all be one?

I wish god would stop using me to smoke cigarettes. It’s awfully costly on every level. God stopped once for 3 years and now god has been smoking again for the last 3 years. Serious but also not serious. 😂

Naked is the Real Self. Totally stripped from illusion..it hurts, it hurts, it hurts...and then it won't 🙏🏼

please question the belief that you need to commit complete "spiritual suicide " in order to survive this life. to be human is to be susceptible to suffering, and without it could we really appreciate the joy? I can't believe that the point of being incarnated as a human is to become un-human, to destroy our separateness, there is such beauty in our individuality - self expression is beauty, interpersonal relationships are beauty just as much as they cause pain. have we given up on ourselves and on life after too much pain? so much so that we can no longer celebrate the joy of being separate and non separate at the same time? celebrate life! as an individual who is able to do such! know yourself not just as oneness but as separate too - i beleive its a grave mistake to devalue the "relative" and glorify only the "ultimate" ...and how can we help anyone if we are no longer "anyone" - we cant help if we arent also separate and one at the same time - boundaries are required for healthy interpersonal relationships and to support others - if we merge with others all the time, we are no longer able to do this. ask yourself if youre on this path to avoid the pain that is natural in life? we can instead face pain with grace, with self compassion - develop self compassion rather than self- annihilation - in the latter we are divided against ourselves - we can never GET RID of our ego - our egos are driving the spiritual path anyway - cultivating grace, acceptance, compassion that includes the relative self, warmth, gentleness with ourselves - this i believe leads to positive transformation that doesn't leave us stranded in the desolation of our individual expression, healthy desires, drives, etc. don't blindly follow those who "bulldoze your entire self and then stand on top of the rubble triumphantly"

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Keep going U create ur own suffering The more u try to get out, the more trapped. Let go

Does that include not getting a job? I am out of regular work for 5yrs. Do i stop looking??

So apathy when being stuck is....

Hello all! I am at a place where I lay in bed most of the time not wanting to do anything but rest as awareness. It's been that way for a few months. Adya says that as the personal will disappears a new energy come to drive our lives but I don't feel it. I need some help and guidance.

I only worry that Adyashanti's advice here may make people complacent about losing motivation and thereby ceasing practice, which has never resulted in awakening as far as I can tell.

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So many comments here. Someone will reply to a comment by asking a question, but the original poster of the comment never replies. I wonder what happened to all of these people.

You need to make sure you're not confusing loss of motivation in material things with depression or apathy though.

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While listening to this, I felt a heavy pulling underneath my feet. Did anyone else have a feeling in the root chakra area?

It’s “easier” for a camel, not harder. Just sayin

I'm not implying that you have clinical issues, btw. But often 'just sitting' or zazen is radically insufficient for true progress in insight. Adya's own experience was unbelievably easy compared to what most people go through, and I think that has leaked into his teaching, e.g. just sit long enough, do some self-inquiry, and BOOM, you'll wake up.

Or it might be all you of you are just being lazy?? :)

This video was so deeply helpful when I first heard it years ago. Still is. Priceless pointing to an unglamorous but crucial aspect of all this. 🙏🔥🫥⭕️🌻💜

@Andrew Fury Thank you so much. You are kind to send me a message .not many ppl care even thou they are massive in spiritual mastery...makes no sense at all...