Aemond Targaryen Betrays Aegon (But Didn't In The Books)

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00:08 - Daemon's Conquest Harrenhal
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@greendragon4870
@greendragon4870 13 күн бұрын
In the books Aegon is actually capable ruler and dragon rider. And Aemond never betrayed him. Complete difference in tv show
@bivamshukhadka8953
@bivamshukhadka8953 11 күн бұрын
If he was capable and smart, he would have kept and Otto.
@MarcosSantos-dj6lk
@MarcosSantos-dj6lk 10 күн бұрын
wrong Aegon is not capable even in the books said that Aemond is more capable, the only difference is that Aegon is part of the plan since from the beginning
@5lim.0
@5lim.0 5 күн бұрын
Even GRRM has said Fire And Blood is written from bias POVs to make the Greens look good
@WhitneyAllisonGG
@WhitneyAllisonGG 4 күн бұрын
The problem the books are written to be propaganda from either of the Maesters and The Fool Mushroom. Neither of the sources are accurate and the Maesters due to the citadel location was team Green and pro Hightower. Mushroom account is pro sensationalist and prone exaggerating. That being said Aegon wasn't a competent ruler
@svenshrempf
@svenshrempf 2 күн бұрын
These du mbos thinks Aegon 2nd is Aegon the 4th.. smh this is why showrunners and writers nowadays still dumbdown their shows lol
@destinitaylor4360
@destinitaylor4360 15 күн бұрын
I was flabbergasted when I saw what Aemond did to Aegon and Sunfyre 😭 ngl the implications of this changes a lot
@Jay-vu6ng
@Jay-vu6ng 15 күн бұрын
Sunfire was basicly already dead tho. That claw to the chest bled more than deanerys dragon after the scorpion shot to the heart lmao
@JamesBond-hm3bw
@JamesBond-hm3bw 15 күн бұрын
Sunfyre will make a great ending in season 4.
@Hellsing7747
@Hellsing7747 15 күн бұрын
​@Jay-vu6ng but he isn't
@kap2652
@kap2652 15 күн бұрын
Aegon ain’t building him statue after this
@TM-qf6vl
@TM-qf6vl 14 күн бұрын
😂
@NPC1173
@NPC1173 14 күн бұрын
💀🤣🤣😂 fr
@peenoice5176
@peenoice5176 11 күн бұрын
He gonna conviently have amnesia or the writers will just remove that scene since it actually makes aegon likeable.
@ekpemirochiemeziem6298
@ekpemirochiemeziem6298 15 күн бұрын
I've believe he did in the books. Aemond seemed power hungry in the books and it's always been strange to me that the books say he descended from above on both sunfyre and melys, it seemed like a "I'm doing my job to everyone else including Aegon, but it would benefit me for him to be harmed, since I would be regent"
@maggyfrog
@maggyfrog 13 күн бұрын
exactly. the greens were incredibly power hungry in the books but is actually somewhat toned down in the show. in the show they make it look like aemond just saw his chance and took it. it doesn't even say explicitly in the book that aemond and aegon together fought meleys, just that they were all there and aemond charged into both rhaenys and aegon.
@flokiv8298
@flokiv8298 15 күн бұрын
Second season has been all about "Here's why team black is cool and greens absolutely suck" There is No brothership no honor no family, they literally took everything from team green, If you didn't choose team black in the first season you won't change it in the second, so I'm now like, IDC who wins anymore
@jaybee1466
@jaybee1466 14 күн бұрын
So true, the show is doing everything in there power to make Aegon and Aemond look evil without any redemptive qualities. It pisses me off I wish Aegon and Aemond had a true brotherhood going on.
@tracys169
@tracys169 14 күн бұрын
I guess, I'm a little different. I can see how actions by Alicent, Otto, Criston and Viserys have consequence on the future of the Greens. Albeit, Alicent started as 'naive' and a pawn of her father, but the years after Rhaenyra's marriage to Laenor, she made alliances (with foot fetish Larys, for example) to ensure Aegon's seat on the throne BUT unfortunately, without preparing him fully or being a true parent to him (to be fair, neither she or Viserys was parenting). Her marriage to Viserys where she also was a nursemaid had occupied her more and she could be seen as distant parent toward any of her children. Heck, you can see how disappointed (and irritated) she's been with Aegon, her lack of bond/understanding with Helaena, then disregard Aemond since y'know, he's just the spare to Aegon... I digress. The point being, I can see Aegon was actually a 'hurt child' inside and is more emotional and sensitive than he showed. It's clear on the last episode that he's frustrated, no one was truly on his side. Alicent, recovering from the realization that she might have supported/helped create the civil war, was not being very kind on him. Although Aegon just lost his son, feeling like no one was listening/minding him, etc. So Aegon decided to jump on Sunfyre and went to Rook's Rest to prove himself....Aemond on the other hand, has that stigma of being a 2nd son, always overlooked because of the order of birth, bullied severely as a kid for being late to bond with dragon and then lost an eye--'till now, he's still underestimated by his big brother whom he has grown to resent. While yeah, they're not 'great' but I can see how all the Greens are 'hurt' or 'wounded' beings...all except for Otto (he's just power hungry so far), possibly Criston (I just roll my eyes at him), Larys (ugh, need I say more) and Daeron (only on the account I've never seen this lad. Where the heck is this boy at LOL).
@varanisshouyou4379
@varanisshouyou4379 14 күн бұрын
In first season it was subtle now greens are cartoon villians i am very dissappointed in this show
@anchaleemathe9712
@anchaleemathe9712 14 күн бұрын
You are right
@sebastienc.2257
@sebastienc.2257 14 күн бұрын
@@varanisshouyou4379 How are they villains? No one on this show is like a Joffrey or a Ramsey. I think your perception is clouded by the idea that everything is black and white. Neither side is clearly right or wrong, evil or good. No one has done anything that is unjustifiable. Every characters action has a cause and even the most questionable characters on House of Dragons have not gone to kill or have people killed without reason or purely out of fear or bloodlust.
@Ninobeige
@Ninobeige 14 күн бұрын
People don’t want to accept the fact that the book is an account of what happened. Not the happening
@salixsalinas366
@salixsalinas366 14 күн бұрын
I was searching this comment
@cebokraai2487
@cebokraai2487 14 күн бұрын
That would work but not for specific events. Like Aegons second son not existing. Did all three accounts make him up? Your willing lieing to yourseld if you belive that. Only vague events you can say that
@phantasmaX33
@phantasmaX33 14 күн бұрын
​​@@cebokraai2487aemond still has time to shag helana and alicent is obviously to proud for such scandalous accusations so bealon or whatever his name is would honorably be able to be heir to aegons throne as "aegons son" when he becomes of age with aemonds blessing as lord region .)
@senorpupik320
@senorpupik320 14 күн бұрын
​@@cebokraai2487 Be honest, you just want to see 3 years old Maelor be choped into six pieces. I quite understand why they left out Maelor.
@cebokraai2487
@cebokraai2487 14 күн бұрын
@@senorpupik320 Thats not my point. Rhaenyra is more of a threat in the books, Daemon doesnt kill his wife and loves laena. So much has changed that negatively effected both sides. Maleor death was to show how evil both sides are.
@markymark2071
@markymark2071 15 күн бұрын
Fire And Blood is a way different type of book than the main ASOIAF novels. It’s not as detailed as those books because it’s not told through the eyes of present time pov characters. This gives the show a ton of 100% justified creative freedom and they’re using that freedom to tell us their version of how things went down. The show isn’t perfect but in my opinion them adding stuff like this is totally fine and it doesn’t stray too far away from the book or anything like that.
@FencingMessiah
@FencingMessiah 15 күн бұрын
Nah it's just bs show runners thinking they're better than grrm at writing
@eveturner96
@eveturner96 14 күн бұрын
@@FencingMessiah nope, read, then type :)
@FencingMessiah
@FencingMessiah 14 күн бұрын
@@eveturner96 take your own advice
@eveturner96
@eveturner96 14 күн бұрын
@@FencingMessiahI have read it, thanks for the concern
@FencingMessiah
@FencingMessiah 14 күн бұрын
@@eveturner96 so it's more a comprehension problem then
@aegorbittersteel2154
@aegorbittersteel2154 15 күн бұрын
I really wish instead of having Aemond actively attacking his brother Aegon just gets injury from the battle. But show Aemond really enjoying finally being the one in charge even to the point he is fearful of Aegon's recovery.
@Eternal_Knova
@Eternal_Knova 15 күн бұрын
He wasn’t going to kill him, he was putting away his sword.
@aegorbittersteel2154
@aegorbittersteel2154 15 күн бұрын
@Eternal_Knova I was talking about setting him on fire
@peenoice5176
@peenoice5176 11 күн бұрын
​​@@Eternal_Knovadude he burned him, i dont think it matters if he was going to finish him or not.
@madmatt6454
@madmatt6454 12 күн бұрын
Show fans seem very confused. They act like theyre entitled to claim the show is the one true canon and claim the book is just a second hand account. No, the show isnt the true canon. The show and the books are two seperate canons. Its this way now just as it was with game of thrones the show vs asoiaf books
@anotheryoutubeuser
@anotheryoutubeuser 13 күн бұрын
GRRM has already said that the show is not canon to the books. Moreover, not only are there characters that straight up don't exist in the show, but also the characterisation of many of the characters doesn't make sense in the context of the book. We can say with confidence that the show is just using certain characters and incidents from the book canon as vessels for a different story they want to tell.
@peenoice5176
@peenoice5176 11 күн бұрын
Yep its got all over again but this time the book is actually finished so its hwrder to fuck up.
@JMQA1
@JMQA1 12 күн бұрын
Good point, why didn't Baela see Vhagar move to this point if she has been scouting this whole time in the show.
@luvprue1
@luvprue1 15 күн бұрын
Actually Aemond did burn Aegon in the book.
@fuckoffgoogle1657
@fuckoffgoogle1657 14 күн бұрын
Unclear at best. “The dragons met violently in the air, a thousand feet above the field, with their fireballs bursting as bright as the sun. Meleys managed to close her jaw around Sunfyre's neck, just as Vhagar fell upon them, and all three dragons fell from the sky. They crashed to the ground so hard that stones fell from the battlements of Rook's Rest, half a league away. From the ashes, only Aemond and Vhagar rose unharmed. Meleys had half torn one of Sunfyre's wings off and Aegon suffered broken ribs, a broken hip, and burns that covered half his body. Meleys did not survive the fall, and was ripped to pieces when she hit the ground. A body believed to be Rhaenys Targaryen was found beside the carcass of her dragon, so blackened that she was impossible to identify.”
@jv_batizta
@jv_batizta 15 күн бұрын
Fire and blood is meant to be a history book written by unreliable third-party sources within the universe. Each with its own biased interpretation of facts. And as in the real world history, it's shaped to favor whoever ends up on top. GRRM, who works with the showrunners, has said that the show its meant to be the actual version of how things happened. Of course there's gonna be some things that change simply because it is in a tv show format. But regarding character motivation and private moments like this where only the main characters are around, the show it's the true version
@FencingMessiah
@FencingMessiah 15 күн бұрын
Grrm doesn't work with the show runners and he has said the show is an alternate universe. Plus the books are not unreliable to the point that ages are changed and characters disappear
@anotheryoutubeuser
@anotheryoutubeuser 13 күн бұрын
Why are you spreading misinformation in the comments? GRRM never said any such thing.
@FencingMessiah
@FencingMessiah 13 күн бұрын
@@anotheryoutubeuser it's so they can defend the nonsense. They think if it comes from grrm we won't go against it. What they don't understand about the fans is that we also criticize grrms writing in the original novels
@maggyfrog
@maggyfrog 13 күн бұрын
​@@FencingMessiah wasn't there a news prior to s2 wrapping up filming that george demanded a few re-shoots?
@FencingMessiah
@FencingMessiah 12 күн бұрын
@@maggyfrog idts
@aguspuig6615
@aguspuig6615 15 күн бұрын
Thankyou for the massive spoiler IN THE TITTLE, a DAY after the episode drops
@yoftahenegussie2244
@yoftahenegussie2244 15 күн бұрын
The episode has already been dropped
@cherrybomber69
@cherrybomber69 14 күн бұрын
Get over it
@halalbagnet420
@halalbagnet420 14 күн бұрын
If youre really invested in the story then try to watch ASAP. Havent you learned all these years? This is the only way to keep up from spoilers. Or better yet try avoiding Socmed till the latest episode.
@zovia2234
@zovia2234 11 күн бұрын
Womp WOMP
@BleedForTheWorld
@BleedForTheWorld 5 күн бұрын
A useful tip would be to delete your watch history that has to do with HOTD or GOT whenever you haven't watched a TV episode already aired.
@3DLASHnet
@3DLASHnet 15 күн бұрын
Now, thanks to the series, my wife will think I am a psychopath for liking Aemond
@fuckoffgoogle1657
@fuckoffgoogle1657 14 күн бұрын
Yeah these shows have been actively damaging the canon for years now and I’m really worried about dunk and egg being next on the chopping block
@tblaze8346
@tblaze8346 15 күн бұрын
Don’t put spoilers in your fucking titles dude
@ZeroFische
@ZeroFische 15 күн бұрын
Bababooey
@fuckoffgoogle1657
@fuckoffgoogle1657 14 күн бұрын
Read a book sometime. 🤷‍♀️ it’s like telling me not to spoil LOTR. You had years to read it. Get over it. Enjoy daemon vs Aemond and Rhae Rhae getting eaten by sunfyre the zombie dragon 😂
@forcecalibration924
@forcecalibration924 15 күн бұрын
I think the books are what history wants us to believe what happened and the show is actually showing us.
@MrMustache-yn4zm
@MrMustache-yn4zm 15 күн бұрын
that excuse worked earlier but it doesn't justify them only keeping the main points and changing just about everything else
@kap2652
@kap2652 15 күн бұрын
The show is not canon are the writers inworld? No they not they making things up and changing things they don’t like
@MeeloTheBoy
@MeeloTheBoy 15 күн бұрын
no thats bullshit the show isnt canon
@latj16x
@latj16x 15 күн бұрын
@@MeeloTheBoygrrm even confirmed himself the show & the book is 2 different universes so it make sense some of these events change
@asiaarias
@asiaarias 15 күн бұрын
One of Alicent & Viserys children doesn’t even exist in the show lol. I used to believe the show was what really happened, but now definitely not. It just doesn’t make sense. Nettles apparently might not even be in the show
@xeronix9774
@xeronix9774 12 күн бұрын
she was so scared of risking her sons' lives that her inaction killed them instead
@NolanDaddy
@NolanDaddy 15 күн бұрын
When i first read TPATQ, and it said that Vhaegar fell on them both from above , i took it as Aemond attempted to kill Aegon . Im kinda surprised that people took it as a accident but George is really good and making the reader believe whatever the maesters say lol . People still say dragons have genders because the maesters believe so but Barth says they are both and Barth is always right 💯
@Arigost
@Arigost 15 күн бұрын
So he regrets killing Luke but is fine with murdering his brother in cold blood? not making much sense.
@J10005
@J10005 15 күн бұрын
I think him killing Luke eventually makes him brush aside his regret and making think he can do what he wants since he's already a kinslayer.
@Mai2708
@Mai2708 15 күн бұрын
killing luke had the consequence of starting the war ahead of time without a chance for peacefully settling it, he felt bad for the consequences of his actions rather than his actions. killing aegon would have the consequence of him becoming king, and he had the excuse of the king dying in battle, if criston hadnt arrived. the consequence of that would end well for him. given how weve seen aegon treat him on top of it, it wouldnt surprise me that he would not be very fond of his brother. I wouldve personally preferred the book version though, but oh well.
@crimetimewithjess5366
@crimetimewithjess5366 15 күн бұрын
He didn't mean to kill Luke. Vhagher disobeyed him but he let people believe what they wanted. He has always thought aegon was ill fitted to be king. Aegon has done nothing but bully and belittle him. Him purposely hurting aegon makes all the sense.
@Rifi77
@Rifi77 15 күн бұрын
This was my problem with this scene as well
@Arigost
@Arigost 15 күн бұрын
@@crimetimewithjess5366 Murdering your own brother, the king and one of the few dragon riders you have is both a moral and strategic blunder. What right does he have to critique Aegon's lack of suitability when his own failings are responsible for the war.
@jlord9638
@jlord9638 11 күн бұрын
Might I suggested a video on the following topic: The show kind of made the Starks more rustic than they where in the books. House Stark in the novels where not as wealthy as the Lannister's but they where a lot wealthier than the show. First lets look at what they wear in the books which is nothing like there costumes in the show. Side note Lord Rickard owned Steel armour and gold spurs. When Arya is packing to go to Kings Landing she files where chest with silk and Sansa is fond of blue silk. In Kings Landing Eddard looked nothing like what he did in the show, he always wore what he called his council silk. Ned also commissions a new uniform for his guards. Long cloaks of heavy grey wool decorated with white satin borders. Their cloaks are pinned with hands of beaten silver representing there Lords office as hand of the King. When he was on the Iron Throne Ned wore a white double embosomed with a grey dire wolf. In Winterfell at the feast welcoming the King and Royal Family they all dressed grandly, including Benjen Stark. There are high born brothers in the Nights Witch from the north and south and I have never seen one dressed as well as Benjen at that feast, not even Lord Commander Mormont himself. He wears rich black velvet high black leather boots. His wide belt has a silver buckle and very heavy silver chain. When Bran is attacked by Wildlings he is attacked for what he is wearing and he is second legitimate son and he is wearing a wolfs head broch of silver and jet. Jet is a gemstone and this is not a formal event this is just outriding in the woods. Jon wears fine blacks and mole skin gloves which would not be cheap. At Winterfell harvest feast Bran is dressed quote, as befits a Prince and Robb wears a bronze crown and Catelyn describes her sons royal Kingly attire as quote magnificent. Also Theon Greyjoy dressed very well when he was living with Stark in silk and Gold and Balon fears the Starks have made him soft. I doubt Greyjoy money was funding Theon's extravagant lifestyle. When he takes Winterfell he crowns himself Prince of Winterfell and orders and orders a new crown forged with black diamonds and chunks of gold. Where did he get the gold and diamonds if not from Winterfell's plundered treasury. And before Winterfell Bran and Luwin gave the Manderley's gold and build a royal fleet and mint coins. At the Winterfell harvest feast Now lets look at Winterfell it is much bigger and much grander than in the show this is a Castle built of granite which is an opulent martial. Winterfell is a huge castle complex spanning several acres and encircled by two massive granite walls. Remember the Castle is built over natural hot springs and as the wiki explains. The water is piped through walls and chambers to heat them, making Winterfell more comfortable than other castles during the harsh northern winters. Also from the wiki Inside the walls, the complex is composed of dozens of courtyards and small open spaces. Weapons training and practice take place in those yards. The inner ward is a second, much older open space in the castle where archery practice takes place. It is located next to the broken tower. Inside Winterfell stands the inner castle, which contains the Great Keep and the Great Hall. Winterfell's towers and halls have diamond-shaped window panes.[6] Inner Castle The Great Keep is the innermost castle and stronghold of the castle complex. It was built over natural hot springs to keep it warm.[5] The Great Keep contains bedchambers for House Stark[5] as well as the solar of Lord Eddard Stark.[7] The building is connected to the armory by a covered bridge.[8] From a window on the covered bridge, one can see the entire yard.[9] Beneath the Great Keep are cellars with narrow windows.[10] The Great Hall is used for receiving guests and the place where the household dines together, including the Lord of Winterfell. It is made of grey stone[11] and has wide doors made of oak and iron,[12] which opens to the castle yard, and a rear exit leads to a dimly-lit gallery.[12] Inside it can hold eight long rows of trestle tables, four to each side of the central aisle,[12] and the hall can seat five hundred people.[13] There is a raised platform for noble guests, and the walls are covered with banners.[11] The hall contains the high seat of the old Kings in the North. The seat's cold stone has been polished by the many lords who have sat upon it, and its massive arms are decorated with the carved heads of snarling direwolves.[14][15] The small sept was built for Lady Catelyn Tully, a southron, by her husband, Lord Eddard.[16] Courtyard and Other Buildings The First Keep, a squat and round drum tower, is the oldest surviving part of the castle but is no longer in use. Around it lies a lichyard where the Kings of Winter would bury their loyal servants. The keep has gargoyles atop it.[17][6] Maester Kennet determined it was built after the Andals arrived.[18] The broken tower, also known as the Burned Tower, was once the tallest watchtower in Winterfell. Over 140 years ago a lightning strike set it afire and the top third collapsed inward, but no one rebuilt it.[19][20] It stands behind the old inner ward. Crows nest atop the broken tower.[19] The ancient godswood of Winterfell has stood untouched for ten thousand years, with three acres of old packed earth and close-together trees creating a dense canopy, which the castle was built around. At the center of the grove stands an ancient weirwood with a face carved into it, standing over a pool of black water.[16] Across the godswood from the heart tree, beneath the windows of the Guest House, an underground hot spring feeds three small pools, with a moss-covered wall looming above them. The godswood is enclosed by walls, and is accessed by a main iron gate, or smaller wooden ones. The Glass Gardens[21] is a greenhouse heated by the hot springs, which turn it into a place of moist warmth.[5] It is used to grow fruits, vegetables, and flowers.[9][22] The garden has green and yellow glass panes[10] locked in frames.[8] The crypt of Winterfell, located near the First Keep, is where members of House Stark are buried. The underground crypts are long and narrow, with pillars moving two by two along its length. Between pillars stand the sepulchers of the Starks of Winterfell, the likenesses of the dead seated on thrones, with iron swords set before them to keep the restless spirits from wandering, and snarling direwolves at their feet. The crypts are deep under the earth, cavernous and bigger than the complex above ground. They are accessed by a twisting stone stair and a huge ironwood door that lies at a slant to the floor. The stair continues below to older levels where the most ancient Kings in the North are entombed.[23][17][10] The Bell Tower is connected to the rookery by a bridge. The bridge is covered and runs from the fourth floor of the tower to the second floor of the rookery.[6][8] The maester's turret is below the rookery.[24] The Library Tower houses the library at Winterfell. A stonework staircase winds about its exterior.[8] The Guards Hall is in line with the Bell Tower, and further back, the First Keep.[6] Winterfell has undercrofts and cellars.[25] The castle also has dungeons,[25] including tower cells.[26] Walls Winterfell is a huge castle complex spanning several acres, defended by two massive walls of grey granite with a wide moat between them.[4] The outer wall is eighty feet high, while the inner is one hundred feet high.[4] There are guard turrets on the outer wall and more than thirty watch turrets on the crenelated inner walls. The great main gates[7] have a gatehouse made of two huge crenelated bulwarks which flank the arched gate[8] and a drawbridge that opens into the market square of the winter town.[27][28] There is a narrow tunnel inside of the inner wall stretching halfway around the castle, allowing travel from the south gate all the way to the north gate without interruption.[19] The Hunter's Gate is close to the kennels and the kitchens. It opens directly onto open fields and the wolfswood, so people can come and go without having to cross through the winter town. It is favored by hunting parties.[4] The East Gate[10] or east gate[29] leads to the kingsroad.[10] The Kingsroad Gate[7] may be another name for the same gate. The Battlements Gate is a small arched postern in the inner wall. It crosses the moat between the walls but does not have a passageway through the outer wall.[7]# When Jon Snow becomes Lord Commander of the Nights Watch he considers building a glass building but thinks it will be costly and for such fine glass he would need to look Myr and by the freedom of a few glass makers. We know Sansa loves lemon cakes and lemon trees do not grow naturally in the north importing lemon seeds to Winterfell from the reach or Doren would not be cheap. My guess would be the seeds came form Doren as one need only sail up the narrow sea than the up the White Knife. Finally Maester Luwin has his own turret and mentions having servents of his own. The Starks top servants have servants Not as wealthy as the Lannister but it clear Ned and Robb after him where unlike in the show 2 of the wealthiest man in the world.
@robe.1084
@robe.1084 7 күн бұрын
The show runners and GRRM have already addressed the changes. The books were written by the maesters and only has their perspective, the show is trying to provide the behind the scenes motives and content that the maesters were not privy to. It’s how things were vs how history recorded it.
@anchaleemathe9712
@anchaleemathe9712 14 күн бұрын
In the book Aegon and Aemond fight together with Meleys and he love his brother
@maggyfrog
@maggyfrog 13 күн бұрын
eh, it wasn't explicitly written that way. it was written so that you might think so, but the text basically just describes that they were all there, that meleys was attacking sunfyre, then from above vaghar charged in their general direction knocking both dragons to the ground and only vaghar rose without injury. there was no explicit vaghar AND sunfyre both charged meleys. none of that.
@apacalypsagon3758
@apacalypsagon3758 10 күн бұрын
Always thought that what i infered from aemond's loyalty to his brother was that he knew his brother was hurting because he lost his son ( throigh his killing of luke) that aemond feels responsible. So i infered how he emerged from the battle of rooks rest unharmed as just a conveniant coincidence. Although it wasn't until he engaged maely's that all 3 dragons plummeted. But by virtue of him being a second son he's naturally viewed with suspicion for taking power for himself. Like how maekar knew how he'll be viewed through murdering baelor breakspear even though it was an accident at the tourney if Ashford
@greennumberthree
@greennumberthree 15 күн бұрын
I just want to know who dies next without reading a word of the book 👀
@fuckoffgoogle1657
@fuckoffgoogle1657 14 күн бұрын
Vermax goes down next iirc
@eveturner96
@eveturner96 14 күн бұрын
Joffrey Velaryon
@eveturner96
@eveturner96 14 күн бұрын
and Addam Velaryon
@greennumberthree
@greennumberthree 14 күн бұрын
@@eveturner96 joffery is about to die? omg? this is why I'm team black. Fuck the Hightowers.
@kap2652
@kap2652 15 күн бұрын
Aemond being okay with Aegon injuries is okay but trying to have him kill him is taking it to far
@J10005
@J10005 15 күн бұрын
He already tried killing him. Finishing the job makes sure Aegon doesn't execute him for treason while putting him in line for the crown
@kap2652
@kap2652 14 күн бұрын
@@J10005but he doesn’t kill him he could have he could have been king he chose not to
@J10005
@J10005 14 күн бұрын
@@kap2652 Trying to burn someone alive and letting him fall from the sky like Mufasa in the Lion King is clearly attempted murder. The only reason he doesn't finish the job is because Cole is a witness
@anchaleemathe9712
@anchaleemathe9712 14 күн бұрын
No he keep his sword before Cole arrive
@kap2652
@kap2652 4 күн бұрын
@@J10005 not true he was putting the sword away I think he thought Aegon was already dead
@stefanvidenovic5424
@stefanvidenovic5424 14 күн бұрын
True.Changes and Changes.For Different and More Different than Book 📖 Fire And Blood
@rexnas8150
@rexnas8150 11 күн бұрын
I mean I've never read the books, but from what I've seen from lore videos, I feel as though some of these scenes are nice changes, while a good amount would have done better by sticking with the original story. And as the story seems to be narrated by 3 unreliable narrators, making it somewhat unclear what really happened, I think a mix of clear truths and a bit of ambiguity for the audience to play with would make it far better. I felt that dichotomy is played well within the better characters like Aemond, Daemon, and Viserys. And sometimes with Alicent and hopefully this Rivers woman. Also wanted to know if the dragons in the lore known to have unique personalities or behaviors? I found myself having issues with the battle of Rooks Rest. I thought it was pretty cool to see the dragon's fight and all, but I found that giving the Dragons personalities distracted me from what I thought would be the ultimate showing of Rhaenyra and Viserys's warnings of the power of dragons. Instead of awing at the absolute devastation and death brought upon the battlefield, I was more worried about these giant fire-breathing puppies that had feelings and cared about their owners as they screamed and died. Which I think is quite different from their portrayals in past episodes, as well as how Viserys describes them. Another issue I had was just how sneaky Vaghar is. I understand there was fire and smoke, but why not fly high above the field to spot the biggest dragon of Westeros.
@manomancan
@manomancan 14 күн бұрын
Man, love your videos incredibly, thanks for your hard work, but this is a straight-up spoiler in the title. I was looking forward to watching the episodes in a few days
@simbol5638
@simbol5638 15 күн бұрын
Wow!
@PeterPan-wi7dd
@PeterPan-wi7dd 9 күн бұрын
do you know why is gendry send to the wall? in s01 e10 he say "but my master got sick of me, so... here i am" to arya. Did I not notice something so obvious that no one else asks about it? Obviously he is a hard-working and good blacksmith, so why should the master be sick of him?
@PikachuRaichu-es8mk
@PikachuRaichu-es8mk 15 күн бұрын
Aemond is hilarious 😂💚
@ScarlitWidow
@ScarlitWidow 12 күн бұрын
I mean, it was ambiguous in the books. But not like what we saw in the show couldn't have happened based on what we know from the books.
@stefanvidenovic5424
@stefanvidenovic5424 14 күн бұрын
Second Season it's More Different then Be.
@OwnedbyCorgis
@OwnedbyCorgis 14 күн бұрын
I actually had slight sympathy for Aegon but not anymore what he did was awful to his own brother AND THAT DRAGON 😭
@stefanvidenovic5424
@stefanvidenovic5424 14 күн бұрын
In The Book 📚 And Season 1 it's Needed to Be Aegon The Conqueror And His Sisters.
@dibyp670
@dibyp670 13 күн бұрын
I liked season 1 but in season 2 everyone just suckssss...
@jesseandersen4055
@jesseandersen4055 4 күн бұрын
Yes this bothers me as so unrealistic, and even more so in the show. They even say "theyre daring us to send a dragon" and the only reason theyd do that is if vhagar was there. Alao their strength is in their number of dragons. In the show they could have sent vhagar moondancer and vermax. They could have spoken of dragonwarfare strategy. The smaller dragons are never to engage the larger, and use their agility and speed to ONLY attack tbe riders from above. Meleys could engage and distract the dragons in combat. I wish they had gjven us better reason to only send meleys, as ae know that happened in the books. Also i do not understand how baela never would have even seen vhagar. Its honestly clear incompetence. Everyone talks about rhaenyra and the blacks being portrayed as too righteous and moral, and the show being too biased in their favor but i literally do not see it. I wish rhaenys had agreed go with caraxes and daemon to kings landing. Theyd have won the war before it really got started.
@tajaemartin2251
@tajaemartin2251 15 күн бұрын
No one cares about book, book and show are different and the book not really reliable
@Eternal_Knova
@Eternal_Knova 15 күн бұрын
I care about the books. although you are right, the show takes a different path, the books are unreliable.
@aegorbittersteel2154
@aegorbittersteel2154 15 күн бұрын
@tajaemartin2251 I get not needing it to be exactly like the book Especially cause like you said , It's not supposed to be reliable. But ignoring the book completely and saying who cares doesn't really make sense ether. It is literally what the show is based on after all.
@kap2652
@kap2652 15 күн бұрын
Then why are shows being made about them? The show is not reliable even worse than the books and far more bias
@MrMustache-yn4zm
@MrMustache-yn4zm 15 күн бұрын
books are definitely unreliable, but they are still the truth so far in HOTD we have just seen the main plot points and everything else is different if it was completely unreliable then we wouldnt have seen the pathetic reign of Aegon II.
@MarwolfAeducan
@MarwolfAeducan 15 күн бұрын
Bullshit without the books they would not have a fucking story it will made up bs like Netflix series Witcher s2 &3
@snypes38
@snypes38 14 күн бұрын
Its so fucking frustrating as a fan to see them keep twisting shit to make the greens look worse and the blacks look better
@apacalypsagon3758
@apacalypsagon3758 10 күн бұрын
If he really did betray his brother than he must be pretty stupid to think he can take the blacks dragons with just him and daeron
@timothyyap5945
@timothyyap5945 13 күн бұрын
The author said that THE SERIES IS REALLY WHAT HAPPENED. The book is just an accounting of scribes :)
@kidmax407
@kidmax407 13 күн бұрын
Thats false. He said the show and books are their own universe. He also mention the changes in blood and cheese part is going to cause issues to the story. So showrunners are probably going to change events down the line that didnt happen in the books.
@Manish-ly7iw
@Manish-ly7iw 11 күн бұрын
Ya you just read it somewhere right. Give me the proof where he said that
@blondymonk1535
@blondymonk1535 14 күн бұрын
I don't like it.
@Superimperatoris
@Superimperatoris 12 күн бұрын
Honestly, you make really great videos but your thumbnails always make me cringe a little. I don't think you need edgy/clickbait, it kinda clashes with the actual quality of your content
@JustBalazs
@JustBalazs 4 күн бұрын
The problem the books are written to be propaganda from either of the Maesters and The Fool Mushroom. Neither of the sources are accurate and the Maesters due to the citadel location was team Green and pro Hightower. Mushroom account is pro sensationalist and prone exaggerating. That being said Aegon wasn't a competent ruler
@Hellsing7747
@Hellsing7747 15 күн бұрын
There are people complaining, saying the show isn't canon. For me, the show is canon. There are two canons. Tv show canon and books canon. Also, some of the events we read in historic books might not be true, but for us, it's the real history because enough people believe in it. Also, fans are giving way too much importance to what is canon or not,and sometimes it's annoying.
@FencingMessiah
@FencingMessiah 15 күн бұрын
The TV show isn't even cannon. There's plenty that don't match up with the got show. Also, the books are not so unreliable that everything the show omits is false.
@Hellsing7747
@Hellsing7747 14 күн бұрын
​@FencingMessiah Whatever you are saying. We are going to agree to disagree.
@twelve11
@twelve11 9 күн бұрын
Yeah, didn't like this change
@Mmm-nj5dk
@Mmm-nj5dk 12 күн бұрын
The show is making Aegon look stupid to hide Aemond's wickedness......but it's not working, Aegon is more Targerian and Aemond is more Hightower.
@ZeroFische
@ZeroFische 15 күн бұрын
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