I find these reviews very calming and incredibly enjoyable. You’ve very quickly become my go-to source for reviews and I’m likely to purchase an aircraft to be honest if you suggest it’s ok. Haven’t really done that in the past but yeah, your format and your obvious professional context lends a demonstrable and clear validity to your views for what is, at the end of the day, a sim. Cheers.
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much Mark! Very kind words all-round and very much appreciated. I never actually set out to create a “review channel” haha, but I basically just try and show what I, as a simmer, would like to see. I generally try my best not to influence people’s decisions, rather just to demonstrate the addon for what it is. I think even more importantly (to me at least), I’m happy you enjoy the flights! For me that’s where the fun of making these videos comes from; I like to try and create scenarios that are interesting in their own right, with the review taking place alongside. I’m sure there are still many ways I can continue to refine my videos, reviews and channel, but I’m really happy you’re enjoying the content and once again I very much appreciate your sentiment! Thanks again and all the best : )
@williamlow11742 жыл бұрын
I flew the Twin Otter while in the RCAF, three years out of Edmonton, two years out of Yellowknife, including time on Medium flotation tires, wheel/skis, and floats.I was very much looking forward to the Aerosoft Twin Otter. But I'm very disappointed, and will not be purchasing this product. This aircraft is pretty well defined by its engines, as are the Turbo Beaver, Porter PC 6, TMB 930, and many other PT-6 powered airplanes. For heaven's sake, when an engine shuts down, it automatically feathers, as oil pressure drives the propeller to finer pitch. How almost all reviewers ignore this, while discussing texturing in the wheel wells is beyond me. I'm sticking to the excellent Milviz Porter, thanks very much.
@fontana1012 жыл бұрын
Would you say the Milviz Porter is way better then the Asobo version?
@CCitis2 жыл бұрын
Yep. Check out the SWS Kodiak too. I never understood the hype on this... nothing about its previews was very impressive to me. And Aerosoft do not support their products like others.
@jxk45002 жыл бұрын
Mate the milviz porter is an absolute beast. Actually even more detailed than the Kodiak in some ways. You're absolutely right for the feathering on the Twotter. This plane needs proper pt 6 simulation, then it would be perfect. It doesn't need to be study level, but the pt6s are the heart of that machine.
@jxk45002 жыл бұрын
@@fontana101 oh my god yes. This thing simulates beta descent and pt 6 stress failures.
@CCitis2 жыл бұрын
@@jxk4500 Like the porter alot, but the Kodiak is faster
@Peter-552 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. I have bought the Twin Otter knowing that the limitations that you have brought up might be there. However, as you say it is fun to fly and I am really enjoying exploring in this aircraft. I am most interested in the cockpit experience rather than the outside texturing so I am mostly happy. Let's hope that Aerosoft continues working on it and bring some upgrades as time goes on.
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
My pleasure once again Peter - thanks for watching! The Twin Otter really seems to have divided the community and indeed I even have split opinions myself haha. From a “simmers” standpoint, it’s a shame to see Aerosoft apparently go down the road of catering to a more casual crowd. That being said, I’m really enjoying the aircraft despite its shortfalls and like you, I’m only really interested in what’s going on inside. There are definitely some improvements that could be made to the aircraft and I gather a patch is on the way. Maybe / hopefully Aerosoft will consider “Xbox” releases and then “Extended” releases in the future. Cheers! Happy flying : )
@joemarkowski44652 жыл бұрын
"It could be user error on my part, but I can't seem to get the prop to actually feather." I'm actually really glad you caught this and mentioned it. YOU CAN'T. Feathering is not actually modeled for, get this, Xbox compatibility reasons. It's not just the lack of systems modeling (re: autofeather, if you had tooltips on it would show INOP when you mouse over it. That entire engine check panel is INOP except the test light), but it turns out that features and animations were actually excluded and cut to make sure it works on Xbox. It's not just "not a study level" plane, it's been actively hamstrung for consoles. I was willing to wait for a patch to the sounds and the bugs, like the outbound CDI. I was making peace with not being able to follow the checks IN THE PROVIDED MANUAL because the test systems aren't modeled (the official Aerosoft answer is: "we'll change the manual"). But finding out it's actively been hampered for Xbox reasons? I sought and was granted a refund from Aerosoft. This is NOT what I was expecting from them in the slightest, and it's actually really shaken my confidence in them as third party devs. I understand the market is now about 50/50 PC/Xbox. I wish them well in the market as a whole, but if this is the price for it, their planes are not for me.
@CMACJAZZ2 жыл бұрын
Fair points well made, that’s a great pity the fidelity intentionally hampered to comply with X box requirements.
@Vograx2 жыл бұрын
I really don’t understand this “slash quality for sake of console compatibility” mentality alot of developers and games seem to have adopted. It’s like gaming is regressing rather than progressing. Why can’t they make the features INOP for Xbox and functional for PC? Isn’t it just a matter of disabling said features for Xbox rather than not implement them at all? Agree with your conclusion; it’s making me lose confidence in developers if they can’t figure out how to deliver a product that makes the fullest for the platform it is used on, rather than cut everything back to the lowest common denominator, ie the consoles.
@AITullball33332 жыл бұрын
Source?
@CMACJAZZ2 жыл бұрын
@@Vograx Points well made, lrts hope the community on PC platform can bring pressure to Aerosoft>
@joemarkowski44652 жыл бұрын
@@AITullball3333 KZfaq seems to not like links in the comments. In the Aerosoft Twin Otter forums, under the Models, Animations, Sound, Manual sub forum, there is a topic Control Surfaces Not Animated? Look there. There are additional examples all over the official forum.
@jxk45002 жыл бұрын
Ok this is a bit of an interesting one. I bought it on release but there's a couple of things missing here. 1) no feather animations and bad prop textures compared to Milviz or SWS and then the sound is a tad off and clunky. For the rest its very good. This plane is a lot of fun and has potential to become something great, but aerosoft needs to step it up a notch on these things. Having no prop feather animations is like having no flap animations nowadays. Either way, the competition for good quality turboprops is getting intense and judging for how long this plane was in development, it clearly wasn't a massive priority for them as they had plenty of time to build an amazing product. When I saw the release of the freeware PC6 in the game of the year edition (which was made by aerosoft ), I knew the twotter would show deficiencies. Hope they do some comprehensive updates to get it on par with the competition. For the rest its a great plane and a good addition to the hangar.
@joemarkowski44652 жыл бұрын
Not sure where my other comment went (maybe removed because I had a link to their forums) but it won't be fixed. The lack of prop feathering is just one of the many casualties needed to make it compatible with the Xbox.
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it wasn’t me that removed it Joe. KZfaq will have (unnecessarily) removed it for containing and external link I’m afraid.
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
Spot on Joni! The Twin Otter is great fun and I for one am enjoying it a lot, but it could have been so much more than it is currently (and probably ever will be by the sounds of it). It sounds like Aerosoft have made up their minds about which direction they want to take (going for Xbox / mass sales) and whilst it’s a little bit disappointing to see them ditch the “simming” community quite so readily, at least they are upfront about it. I guess MSFS is going to mark a “changing of the guard” to some degree, with Captainsim, Aerosoft et al now catering to the Xbox, and SWS, FlyingIron etc moving in to fill the void. I’m sure Aerosoft will patch the aircraft up to a “quality” state, but it sounds like they won’t ever be looking to get it to a “simulation” state. Again great, balanced post. Cheers!
@jxk45002 жыл бұрын
@@IntotheBlueSimulations true and Milviz - it looks like they have a great line up this year. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/g9qTa8Zhzd6-cqs.html
@jay-rus443710 ай бұрын
Hopefully this comes back as a study level aircraft. Without it we are really missing out on a strong twin engine mid size aircraft.
@IntotheBlueSimulations10 ай бұрын
I believe the Twotter should be making a reappearance at some point, Jay. There are some other great twins out there though: If you’re after a turboprop, there’s the Black Square Analog King Air and if you’re after a twin more generally, there’s the Carenado Beech 18 (with the Denarq mod), the FSW C414 and the BlackBox Islander (although graphically, the Islander does look rather dated), all of which are decent mid-sized twins : ) All the best!
@BobbyFuzzy2 жыл бұрын
I haven't grabbed this yet, the community definitely seems split on a few areas of this one! Thanks for the great review as always, I have to say after watching a number of streams and now this, I think I agree with you on your conclusion. Thanks again!
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
Haha, it does indeed seem to have divided opinions Bobby (including my own haha). I’d say it’s fairly straightforward though; if you want something to have fun in, its generally a great little aircraft. If you want a complex simulation of an aircraft, there are better options elsewhere. My pleasure on the video! Thanks for watching and all the best : )
@BernardLangham2 жыл бұрын
a good example of the lack of "failure modelling" is the fact that you can start the engines with the boost pumps turned off, which doesn't work in the real world because the fuel tanks are underneath the floor and the engines are on the wings, so they can't be gravity fed. in a livestream one of the devs stated that they deliberately chose not to model what happens "when the pilot does wrong things", so, mission acomplished, i guess.
@williamlow11742 жыл бұрын
The real world Twin Otters I flew had the fuel tanks in the wings....what makes you think the fuel is in the belly??
@williamlow11742 жыл бұрын
My mistake! Fuel in the belly as you said!
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
Certainly a valid point Bernard. For me personally, I don’t mind (for this level of addon) when something can be operated incorrectly, so much as when it cannot be operated correctly, if that makes sense. Ie the fuel pump issue doesn’t really bother me, as I will just operate them in accordance with the checklist, but the feathering issue does bother me, because I can’t feather the props period. We’re all different of course. From what I’ve heard / read though, it doesn’t (disappointingly) sound as though Aerosoft is too bothered about catering to simmers on this one and quite possibly on their future releases. . . All the best!
@BernardLangham2 жыл бұрын
@@IntotheBlueSimulations i'm also pretty sad about the lack of feathering support. my immediate response would have been, "well, the DC-6 has feather support, so what's the problem?" on further research, however, it appears that PMDG ran into a nightmarish situation on the console where the xbox version of the DC-6 was utterly broken, literally couldn't be started, guages didn't work etc, and they had to pull it from the marketplace and offer refunds. the xbox-only bugs were due entirely to undisclosd "limitations" in the console version of the simulator. (disclosure: i honestly thought the codebase would be pretty much identical across platforms, since the xbox is really just a locked-down pc, but apparently not). so, to cut Aerosoft some slack, it seems that console support is more problematic that one might have thought--which is of course entirely MS/Asobo's fault, and not the addon devs'.
@maximepatterson83452 жыл бұрын
Finally, the one review I was waiting for
@willemfs67332 жыл бұрын
Sorry but this was a YT Jockey all over the place!
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
What was all over the place Willem; my flying, the video, or both haha?
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
Well thanks very much Maxime. Very kind of you to say! The Twin Otter really seems to have split community opinion, but I hope the video gave you some sense of what the product is (and isn’t) at any rate. The aircraft definitely has its flaws, but I have been enjoying it nonetheless. All the best : )
@christianpankratz2 жыл бұрын
The landing was excellent again. Thanks for the review. I like the engine sound of the plane.
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
Haha, thanks very much Chris! ; ) My pleasure on the review, hope it was of use. I think the engine sounds still need some work regarding the transitions, but otherwise I think they’re alright. You and I seem to be in the very small minority though ha. Apparently Aerosoft are now doing a full re-recording of the sounds, so hopefully they’ll be better yet - great to see them taking community feedback on board at any rate. Cheers : )
@christianpankratz2 жыл бұрын
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Yes I've hard about the issues with the sound afterwards too.
@green847052 жыл бұрын
Very nice review, thank you also to fly the Solomons am working for the solomon airline so was happy to see it
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much Theodore, my pleasure! I'm glad you enjoyed our outing in the Solomon Islands - it must be a lovely place to live : ) Cheers and all the best!
@green847052 жыл бұрын
Sure is a great here in the islands, I really enjoy your review of the aircraft and enjoy working on it. Keep it coming
@imellor7112 жыл бұрын
You've Sold the MSFS 2020 Twin Otter to me. I do have it in Xplane 11, but forgotten how good she is....
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
Haha, well it wasn't an intentional sales pitch Ian, but I'm glad you found the video "motivating" enough to want to pick the product up. The Twin Otter is by no means a perfect addon, but I think it's very enjoyable nonetheless! I do hope you're enjoying the aircraft as well. Happy flying! : )
@shackas_83982 жыл бұрын
Took a Dash8 Q-400 to Nusatupe, stayed at Gizo, then a tiny little island with one hut somewhere off the coast. Absolutely amazing place.
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
Sounds delightful sir! A small island with a single hut sounds like a dream right now actually haha. I was thinking it was a long way for you to go, but I guess it wasn't that far from home before ; ) All the best! : )
@ozsimflyer2 жыл бұрын
Another superb analysis and assessment. Thanks for taking the time and sharing your thoughts with us. Awesome job once again.
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much Chris! My pleasure as always, glad you enjoyed it. A bit of a shame I couldn’t have given the Twin Otter more glowing praise, that being said, still enjoying the aircraft for what it is. Once again, thank you very much for watching! All the best : )
@needlesbeckett2 жыл бұрын
Another enjoyable video, thank you. Always good to gat a real-world pilots perspective 👍
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much Andy! Glad you enjoyed it : ) Always wanted to have a go at flying the Twin Otter, never have though - I guess the virtual version will have to “make do” for now haha. Cheers!
@Stwutter19732 жыл бұрын
Thanks - as always - for the thorough review. Always enjoy your take on stuff. Have to disagree on the sounds tho'. They are so, so bad. How this got released with the sounds in such an appaling state is beyond me. I know they are working on that, but I paid £30 for this and feel duped ATM. I literally won't fly it unt they fix the sounds. It feels like this was in development for about 50 years, and there's really no excuse.
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
Hi Stwutter, Thanks once again! Absolutely fair enough - chances are, I’m not always going to come to a conclusion that everyone finds agreeable. I must have a pretty poor ear though, as I often seem to be ok with sounds that the rest of you dislike XD To be clear, I’m not onboard with the abrupt change in engine sounds, they’re a bit rubbish and need to be fixed up (I had initially thought that was only going to be an early-access issue). The actual engines sounds though, I thought (whilst overly loud) were okay (but again I seem to be in the minority haha). I gather an update for the product is being worked on, but as ever with these sorts of things; if it’s already getting a significant update, then it wasn’t ready for release! Sorry you aren’t happy with your purchase at the moment. I certainly hope Aerosoft get the aircraft to a point where you are! Cheers again. All the best! : )
@labradoodleparadies2 жыл бұрын
Indeed, I will not buy this aircraft now. I have been reading many things and find that there must certainly be a good solid aircraft at the heart of things... but no feathering and stalling that does not work and terrible sounds poorly timed... well that is too much for me. I will wait and see what they do. Time for a Kodiak, I think.
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
A very fair take Jonathan and honestly, one (the developer) reaps what they sow - the Kodiak is a fine product and SWS deserve all of the support and adoration they get for it. I think / hope you will enjoy it. All the best : )
@Howrider652 жыл бұрын
Good people doing videos and KZfaq killing them with more ads.
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
Hi Howard, Apologies if you were inundated with ads. KZfaq is indeed over the top and inconsistent with its ad placement (some countries will see all of the ads and others may see few). For what it’s worth, I actually delete around 50% of the ads KZfaq automatically places - I aim to have one ad show every 15 mins. Cheers and all the best! : )
@johnarmstrong37822 жыл бұрын
Very nice review. I agree with you apart from the engine sounds. I think this plane is sub par and has been over hyped.
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
Thanks John! I must have a very poor ear haha; I often seem to like sounds that nobody else does. . . I think the engines sounds themselves are okay (could be better for sure though), the abrupt sound changes definitely need fixing though and I was very surprised to see them on the release version (I had assumed it was just an early-access issue). I agree that the Twin Otter has not lived up to the hype. I do think though that some of the hype was community-induced. Aerosoft were pretty open about the fact that the aircraft would be “dumbed-down” for the Xbox in fairness. I guess none of us quite appreciated what that meant though. Do I enjoy the aircraft? Yes. Is it up the standards I was expecting / hoping for? Sadly not. . . Cheers and all the best! : )
@hefy2jefy6 ай бұрын
I was able to feather the props simulation an engine fire. I have dual throttle sticks; bring the pitch lever all the way back then use the mouse to get to the feather position
@IntotheBlueSimulations6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the info Geoffrey; I think Aerosoft may well have updated the addon, after this video was recorded (a few features were added / tweaked after initial release). Cheers, all the best : )
@winny-razzy2 жыл бұрын
Solomon airways... 😍I'm from solomon islands 🇸🇧 👍 great video mate.
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
Ah nice Ben - I’d imagine it’s a pretty lovely spot in which to live! Glad you enjoyed the video and a little bit of Solomon Islands / Airways representation haha. All the best! : )
@GWAIHIRKV2 жыл бұрын
Fast becoming the best MSFS pilot 👩✈️👍
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
Well thanks very much Ken, very kind of you to say! I certainly try my utmost to create quality content, so it’s always very much appreciated when someone says they are enjoying it : ) Cheers and all the best!
@XCougar85X2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the nice review. Really torn between this one and the Islander. I feel both would be nice additions to the Kodiak that already resides in my hangar.
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
You’re most welcome Coenraad! Hmm (sadly) that’s a tougher call than most were perhaps expecting (since the Twin Otter was expected to far surpass the Islander originally). Graphically there’s no contest, the Twotter is far superior, it also has a slight edge on the systems front. I would say right now I’m enjoying the Twin Otter more, but just to throw a spanner in the works, the Islander is due to get a “study level” systems upgrade (according to the dev). I agree that either one would be a nice addition to the virtual hangar. Neither aircraft is ground-breaking, but island hopping in the sim is fun and they both tick that box. I would say perhaps wait and see what Black Box have in mind for the Islander upgrade (although I’ve no idea how long that is due to take) and then reassess. . . I’m sure that has been of no use in helping you make up your mind! XD All the best : )
@XCougar85X2 жыл бұрын
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Thanks for the reply as always. I had forgotten about that update. Should come with or after the Trislander iirc. Trying to decide for my Neofly trip around Australia, so not too keen on waiting. But this is seriously busting my OCD head haha
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
Haha. Well if it were me, I’d go for the Twin Otter in that case then. It’s more up to modern standards graphically, a little bit more capable and has somewhat more systems depth in its current state etc. Despite all of the flack it gets (some of it deserved), I rather enjoy the Twotter myself overall. The Islander is fun too, but I think the FSX-style visuals might start to wear by the time you’ve made it all the way around Oz XD I was watching some cracking Islander vids the other day - made me wish we had *this* in the sim! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ptpipMWGs9WVkaM.html Did you manage to decide which one to go for yet then? : )
@XCougar85X2 жыл бұрын
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Thanks again. Aye seen that video, some crazy flying right there, zero room for error. You know, i ened up with the Islander, and imo, yes it is fun, but tbh i wish i had taken the Twotter haha. The visuals don't bother me that much, however what does bother me is the wonky flight model. The nose popping up at very low airspeeds and the near 2000ft/m climb rate at WoT. Even at climb setting climbs closer to 1300ft instead of 800-900ft/m. The climb rate at cruise setting (20") is actually closer to the proper climb rate. And the landing is also a bit weird, on how she changes pitch very agressvely with throttle adjustments. 1 stage flaps also does feel like it ads too litle drag. Once stablished on the aproach and stuff she does behave well, and she sounds great and the cruise itself, is actually rather pleasant. I asked on the MFS forums yesterday and the devs replied that the climb performance is something they will look at and rectify when the "study level" update will happen, so i don't feel that bad. But may end up with the Twotter to fly untill that update comes after all haha. Edit: Little edit. I just fly her now at 25" on takeoff and 20" for climb, and that is actualy quite alright. I just pretend 25-30 does not exist. Did a nice flight to Adelaide. Went really nice. Bit bumpy over the mountains. (btw that swinging cable in the ceiling is a really cool touch)
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
Ah well I wouldn’t feel too much buyers remorse. As I say, there isn’t too much difference between the two aircraft in terms of quality; they both have their ups and downs and the Twotter’s flight model is hardly a bastion of accuracy either haha. Sounds like quite a cool little adventure overall though! I did cover most of Oz as part of a world tour a few years ago - gosh it’s big and empty haha! But it’s also beautiful and desert environments tend to be some of the best looking in the sim (even where the photo-imagery quality isn’t stellar, it’s hard to notice when the landscape is fairly uniform anyway). I’m sure there is a mod for the Islander’s flight model somewhere out there, unless your purchased from the Marketplace? Hopefully the dev does fix things up. He will have to really, if he wants to call the aircraft study level. . . Believe it or not, the engine power has already been reduced on at least one occasion (and I think maybe even two) XD Aaaanyway, happy flying! : )
@CMACJAZZ2 жыл бұрын
Hello, I was not purposely laying blame at your review in pre release stage or any other reviewer, as you suggested there was high expectation and hope certain anomalies would be rectified and enhanced, sadly not the case, I am enjoying the A/C as well but knowing it been "dumbed Down" to meet the gaming platforms is such a distraction -well for me anyway. Thanks for all you do on reviews always fair, measured and factual at the time of review. Cheers for now Charlie
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
Oh no no, I didn’t necessarily think that you were Charlie (though equally it wouldn’t be entirely unfair to have done so), but I thought you raised a very fair point. Generally in my previews, I try not to be too critical of a product, as who knows what might change between the video and release. Unfortunately that’s the issue though, I’m none the wiser than anyone else. I thought the Twin Otter was coming along very nicely, but I was also expecting to see all of the rough edges rounded off (figuratively and literally haha). I’m quite surprised we didn’t see that from Aerosoft (I’ve enjoyed many of their products in the past) and I think we know now why that is. . . So I got a little bit caught out myself. Unfortunately I don’t see an optimal workaround for these sorts of situations, but perhaps in the future I will make mention that “whilst it’s pre-release and we can expect improvements before release, equally there may not be any). Thanks as always! : )
@volkerjansen39012 жыл бұрын
Excellent review! I could not resist to buy the Twin Otter, but I think I will wait for an update from Aerosoft before I spend more time with it.
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Volker! Glad you enjoyed it. Personally I’m enjoying the Twin Otter for what it is, but for sure it could use a few fixes (at the very least). Waiting for an update (which I hear they are working on) isn’t the worst idea in the world. Hopefully we don’t have to wait long! All the best : )
@volkerjansen39012 жыл бұрын
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Mathijs mentioned on the Aerosoft forums that they have fixed many of the initial problems (especially auto pilot and harsh sound transitions) and a patch should be released on Monday or earlier.
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
Ah ok. Thanks very much for the info Volker. Looking forward to that then! : )
@andrewbennett25822 жыл бұрын
Don’t have time to watch your vid at the moment, as working, but if you mentioned the autopilot issues, we have found a few cfg tweaks that fixes it...
@philipford6183 Жыл бұрын
I really like the authentic-sounding ATC radio chatter. How is that done?
@IntotheBlueSimulations Жыл бұрын
Hi Philip, The ATC is real-world recordings (from LiveATC.net), which I’ve then edited into the video. There is actually an ATC chatter app available for MSFS though, if that’s the sort of thing you’re after : ) I hope that helps. All the best!
@davidh72802 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your review, as always insightful. My P3d Twotter has full sets of failures operated via the fully interactive checklist, via Shift 2. The engine fire procedures also enable a fully feathering prop. Since I kept P3d on my PC, I won't need to purchase the Twin Otter again. I'm still looking for a simulation that I can buy and genuinely say, "Wow"! That's an impressively accurate sim. I'd like the Mjc Dash 8 Q400, maybe? Now that would be something?
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
Thanks David! Hehe, definitely sounds like you’re better off sticking with P3D for now then. Ironically, I had always wanted to try the Twin Otter extended, but never had the funds at the time. I figured I would finally get to experience it in MSFS, but it would seem not. . . I hear very good things about the Majestic Dash 8 for sure. I don’t know if you’re an X-Plane man at all, but the Hotstart Challenger 650 seems to be getting some rave reviews (touted as “the most study level aircraft ever” etc)! Might be worth taking a look. . . Cheers : )
@Topcat19522 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this! Just wondering what add-on you use to get the local dialect language on the radios? Those are not the boring MSFS voices.
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dennis. My pleasure as always! The radio sounds are actually recordings from LiveATC.net, that I then edit into the video. I believe there is an MSFS radio chatter app available though, if that's the sort of thing you're after. I hope that helps a little. All the best : )
@liamp512 жыл бұрын
Personally, I'm having fun with this aircraft. I didn't get hyped about it and didn't really follow the development. Is it currently as good as the SWS Kodiak? No. Does it have a lot of potential? Yes! To be honest, the Xbox compatibility stuff doesn't really bother me that much. It'd be ideal if AS does an "Extended" version for PC only, but if not, I'm not too upset. Whether we want to admit it or not, there is a LOT of revenue in the Xbox market and those who fly MSFS on that platform deserve good addons too. I'm not excusing AS for omitting things JUST to make it compatible with the Xbox, however. Hopefully the first update address a lot of the niggly things like sound blending and things. Overall I'm pretty satisfied!
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
Very nicely put Liam! I agree with all of that. I am enjoying the Twin Otter for what it is, having a lot of fun with it so far. All of your points are valid as I say. I think the main reasons Aerosoft have taken a bit of a beating on this one; 1) Some of their “concessions” sound rather questionable. 2) I think people feel a bit neglected, that they’ve been supporting the company all of these years, only for Aerosoft to turn around and follow the $$ (which of course they’re inclined to do, but it perhaps could have been done a little more “sympathetically”). It seems to me that going forward, the obvious thing to do (as you have also suggested) would be to have an “Xbox version” and an “Extended version” - keep both sides happy. Cheers and all the best! : )
@WhiteHawk772 жыл бұрын
Ya know, after all I’ve seen and read, I think Aerosoft will not be getting my money. I was looking forward to the Otter, but it’s clear that Aerosoft are one of those developers that are not moving with the times and upping their game to the higher standards that are now possible. I’m sure their will make a good amount of money from the casuals that don’t know any better or don’t care, but their reputation in the flight sim community will be damaged by this lack of care and that’ll do attitude. I’ll be sticking to the much higher quality Kodiak for now and unless they release a Extended version with less bugs and more features it’ll stay that way, I’ve spent more than enough on this sim and it has to be good to make me spend any more.
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
I fear they are “moving with the times” WhiteHawk, but unfortunately their move (in this particular case) seems to be with an eye towards the Xbox. . . On a personal level the modelling, texturing etc didn’t really bother me. But the abrupt engine sound changes are bizarre (I really thought that was just an “early-access” issue) and not being able to feather a prop just seems crazy - Carenado have been pulling that one off for over a year now (I still maintain they aren’t nearly so bad these days haha!). I gather people have been trying to reach out to Aerosoft regarding some of the issues, but not been warmly received. I can never understand why devs take feedback personally; having your audience care about the product you’ve created is a good thing - embrace it! You make a good point: If Aerosoft want to cater to the Xbox crowd (and that is genuinely the reason the product has been hamstrung), then they would do well to release Extended versions of their products at a later date, for PC simmers. I’m not sure I buy the story about the Xbox “not being capable” etc though. . . All the best!
@stevesanacore74592 жыл бұрын
Yesterday I read a post from someone at Aerosoft about why they won't be making extended versions anymore. According to AS 99% of the MSFS market don't care and won't pay extra for it. At least we now know exactly how they feel. Those of us who want deep systems and aerodynamic accuracy need to stick with P3D and X-Plane for now. Let's see how PMDG and Milviz do with their upcoming releases.
@WhiteHawk772 жыл бұрын
@@stevesanacore7459 so they have now said they won’t be doing an extended version? Last I heard they may do one for the otter in the future. If that’s their attitude they are not getting my money and there’s others I’m sure that will avoid them too.
@Vograx2 жыл бұрын
I enjoy the plane a lot. Noticed two issues though. The IAS doesn’t seem to work. And when you turn on “Intake Anti-Ice” it lowers torque on the left engine only, even though there is only one switch for both engines. So either torque is bugged or anti-ice is not working on right engine.
@joemarkowski44652 жыл бұрын
IAS is not modeled so won't work, and yes, anti-ice is bugged and only hits the left engine currently.
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
Likewise Vograx! As I mentioned during the review; whilst it certainly has its issues, I’m still enjoying it a lot personally. Aerosoft could have made more of it though I feel. . . I expect the anti-ice bug will get fixed up. Strange that they didn’t bother to model the IAS hold, since even the default Asobo autopilot (on the Garmin) has such a feature modelled. Ah well, I gather an update is in the works. Fingers crossed that irons out some of the creases. Happy flying! : )
@Inpreesme2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much Kevin! : )
@rotol2 жыл бұрын
I do enjoy this aircraft. The non feathering and awkward start prop rotation are a bit disappointing but not a deal breaker. Can you use the FSX textures on this one?
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
Hi Roberto, Glad you’re enjoying it! Agreed, there are some annoyances, but it’s not a deal-breaker for me either. I would strongly suspect FSX repaints won’t work with the MSFS version, but there are now a number of repaints available from flightsim.to (and I’m sure more will follow). Cheers! All the best : )
@rotol2 жыл бұрын
@@IntotheBlueSimulations thanks for the reply, just finished flipping the fax textures and renaming then and they did work. Now I need to know how to make them appear independent in the sun
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
Ahh, I see what you mean Roberto. Sorry, I thought you were wondering if they worked by default. I’m sure with a bit of work they can be adjusted for MSFS yes. Best of luck with it! : )
@paulphibbs71622 жыл бұрын
Good review. Do you feel the sound in the cockpit is a bit loud? I had to turn it down as it was overpowering. In contrast, external sounds seemed muffled.
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Paul. Yes, for sure the sounds are rather on the loud side at the moment. I had meant to mention that, but then somewhat forgot it was an issue, as I had turned them down for recording. I found I had to reduce my volume levels by about 50% to get things comfortable. I thought the external sounds were ok, but I seem to be in the minority on that one haha. Cheers! : )
@thewadleighs71872 жыл бұрын
Someone posted on Aerosoft's forums a fix that works for me: go to "Audio" and the first option iirc change to "Headphones". For me, now ATC was audible, cockpit engine noise tolerable and it was louder externally than internally, as it should be. Give it a try.
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the pointer Wadleighs! For sure that would remedy the situation for the time being, but it’s nice to have the aircraft audio somewhat normalised between addons, otherwise one has to change their settings when switching from addon to addon. Much appreciated though! All the best : )
@flip-da-loop2 жыл бұрын
Fabulous. 😍
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir! : )
@jay-rus443711 ай бұрын
Wanted to get this plane, but it doesnt seem to be available now. Not sure why that is, but either way I ended up buying the Tecnam P2006 to play around in. I really like flying the Kodiak, so thought the Otter might be a nice twin engine
@IntotheBlueSimulations11 ай бұрын
Yes Jay; unfortunately, Aerosoft pulled the addon from sale. Apparently the Twotter will be making a return at a later date but, Aerosoft haven’t specified what their reasoning was, or in what capacity the aircraft will be returning (I’m guessing it might be making an appearance in MSFS 2024). Many people weren’t very happy with the Twin Otter but personally, I enjoyed the addon for what it was. Enjoy the Tecnam! All the best : )
@jay-rus443711 ай бұрын
@@IntotheBlueSimulations ….got the Tecnam, but not really a fan of it. It is extremely low on power, so I always feel like Im fighting to keep speed up. Its climb rate is terrible. At least thats been my experience so far. Just isnt an enjoyable plane to me
@IntotheBlueSimulations11 ай бұрын
Ahh, very sorry to hear that, Jay : /
@benjaminmenken56932 жыл бұрын
Sort of related but yesterday I did my first flight lesson, even landed the plane
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
Nice one Benjamin - congratulations! How did you find it? : )
@benjaminmenken56932 жыл бұрын
@@IntotheBlueSimulations it was great, pretty windy though
@flywithtb50052 жыл бұрын
Ok Im not buying it. But I now have a new favorite review channel ;)
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
Haha! Well I’m certainly glad you found the review useful TB500 and I’m even happier to hear that you like the content to such a degree! Very kind of you to say and much appreciated. Welcome to the channel : )
@flywithtb50052 жыл бұрын
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Hi. I'm looking for a General Aviation study level airplane which has plenty of systems to learn and is capable to fly on some fields as well as some bigger airports. Also it would be nice if the aircraft has a higher cruise speed and is capable of flying at higher altitudes. I spent yesterday watching your videos about the Twin Otter, Kodiak 100, Cessna 414, Cessna 310, Boeing 247, Ju52 and the Pilatus PC-6 (which I own as a model plane :D) I think the Cessna 414 suits me best bcs it's highly detailed and the pressurized cabin as well as the piston engines make it interesting to operate. Secondly the retractable gear and the TDS GTN 750 capability make it a really useful aircraft with good instrumentation and a high cruise speed. I also like the checklist and walk-around features very much. The closest competitor was the Cessna 310 which is is basically fully modelled with even the circuit breakers operating. The thing holding me back here is that the aircraft has too few systems to operate watching your review it felt like a big Cessna 172. Also it's slower and doesn't quite reach the same altitudes as the C414. I do like the fault system as well as the "rental" cold and owned states. The Kodiak 100 and the PC-6 have to few systems and dials to be interesting. The Twin Otter and the Ju52 are just barely enough modelled to fly. And they also have this convenient unrealisticness. Like, the Ju52 instantly fires up and lifts off to easily and the Twin Otter has only the switches modelled it needs to fly so all the "alternate" positions are useless. Third is the Boeing 247 has a nice engine Modell, however it's navigation equipment is so outdated it's barely usable and the sounds are really monotone and not immersive. I have the DC-6 and that is more immersive, has a better engine Modell and is more usable as it has modern navigation equipment and it has more dials. Also I'm not a big fan of those "Handpumps" in a simulator where I can't really touch the things. So those were my initial impressions. But I'd be really grateful to hear your opinion. Judging on my thoughts what aircraft would you recommend?
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
I think going off your specifications, I’d come to the same conclusions as you did there. The MILVIZ C310 is the best of the GA bunch overall but in terms of systems, it is basically just a C172 with two engines haha. The C414 is an excellent product. Just bear in mind that it’s still in early access at the moment, so the finished product is still an unknown quantity (though it’s unlikely it’ll get worse and FSW have updated the textures and the sounds significantly since my review). Just a couple more suggestions / food for thought (although again, I think the 414 is probably your best bet); the HondaJet, C22J and the FlyingIron P38. Probably not exactly what you’re looking for, but they tick a lot of your boxes and are all excellent in their own right (though the HondaJet’s flight model is a little bit questionable at this time). I hope that helps a little and I’m really happy to hear you’re finding the content useful! Cheers and all the best : )
@flywithtb50052 жыл бұрын
@@IntotheBlueSimulations well the C414 has fixed all the bugs you found in your video. So I bought it ;) Really looking forward to trying out the TDS GTN750 after I saw you use it in your videos. As a general feedback I do really like the structure of your videos. One flight to get a feel how the experience will be and then a fair and balanced conclusion. What also helped me is that you always drew comparisons to other aircraft/development studios. That helped me to get an overview of what the general standard is after getting back into simming after 1 1/2 years. Also this way I found all the other aircraft which are worth considering. Anyway you helped me so let's see if I can get you a coffee.
@wwns12 жыл бұрын
hello. I enjoyed your review. I am curious and ask. When reviewing a cockpit, what is the way to do a review while moving freely instead of the camera view? I would like to know how to set
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
Hi KAL, Thanks very much, glad you enjoyed it! Unfortunately it’s not a setting in the sim, but a piece of hardware that I am using to achieve the effect. I am using a device called “TrackIR”, which monitors a persons head movements and then inputs them into the sim. TrackIR is quite pricey, but there are cheaper alternatives out there, that achieve a similar result : ) I hope that helps a little. All the best!
@urgentsiesta76062 жыл бұрын
Hopefully, AS will bring us a "Professional" version of the Twin Otter at some point, just like they have on several of their P3D addons. Until then, the MilViz Porter will keep me busy, and I'll keep the SWS Kodiak on the short list. Many thanks for your honest and forthright reviews. Hopefully, Aerosoft will take your constructive criticism to heart.
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
Cheers Urgent. Indeed, it sounds like that’s the way it’s going to have to be now: Aerosoft have seemingly decided that this addon is aimed more towards the Xbox (and they’re well within their rights to do that of course), which isn’t going to leave too many of the PC crowd happy. If they want to keep us “simmers” on board (maybe they do, maybe they don’t), then I think releasing basic versions for the Xbox and “Extended” versions for the PC is going to be the way to go. The Porter is a still a fine steed and when you you’re feeling lazy one day and want a nosewheel, you could do a lot worse than the Kodiak! ; ) I hope Aerosoft will take all of our feedback onboard. So far (from what I’ve heard) they haven’t been too receptive too it, but in fairness I think they have previously “huffed and puffed” and ultimately tend o get things fixed up anyway. . . All the best : )
@BalticDude_DCS2 жыл бұрын
Has the sounds been fixed yet?
@EHEHspotter2 жыл бұрын
Brake check? .... nah... we don't need brakes : - ) great vid, thks !
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
“Where we’re going, we don’t need brakes!” ; ) I’m very happy you enjoyed the video, despite my maverick approach to ground operations haha. My pleasure and thanks very much for watching! All the best : )
@joea22822 жыл бұрын
Interesting how the pilot side instruments are not all illuminated and the co-pilot side has more illuminated. 🤔
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
Huh, didn’t spot that one Joe. To be fair, I just threw on some of the overhead lighting, as I thought it was a bit dim in the cockpit at the time. It may have been that I didn’t go for the optimal lighting configuration (or it may be that the cockpit lighting needs some improvement). Or are we talking about the night lighting demonstration? Cheers! : )
@abdigitaluk_photography2 жыл бұрын
This looks like a very enjoyable aircraft to fly. Might have to invest after payday:-)
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
Hi Adam, Well the Twin Otter seems to have split opinion haha and it definitely has some issues that need fixing, but personally I’m very much enjoying it for what it is. If you do pick it up, I hope you enjoy it as well! All the best : )
@andrewbennett25822 жыл бұрын
No the CDI is an aircraft bug, it can’t do track away from a VOR. They’re a aware of it.
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
Indeed. Thanks Andrew. This was unbeknownst to me at the time, but I found this out thereafter. Pretty bizarre, but at least Aerosoft are aware of it and will presumably have it fixed up in due course. Cheers! : )
@billycuyler33212 жыл бұрын
I heard a regional accent in your air traffic chatter. How did you do that? Also, thanks for a great review!
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
Hi Billy, My pleasure on the review - glad you enjoyed it! The ATC was actually just recordings that I have taken from LiveATC.net and then edited into the video. I believe there is an ATC chatter app available for MSFS though, if that's the kind of thing you're after. Thanks and all the best! : )
@finlayfraser99522 жыл бұрын
How does it vary from the FSX offering? It looks almost identical to me.
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
In many respects it is very similar (unfortunately) Finlay. In fact, as compared with the "extended" FSX version, this MSFS version offers less fidelity. For the most part I wouldn't say there are any major upgrades from the FSX version, but of course the sim has come a way, so flying the Twotter in MSFS is probably more fun in many respects. All the best! : )
@richardstoffel65857 ай бұрын
I wish this would come to Xbox…. I’ve been waiting. I use to fly N121PM ❤
@IntotheBlueSimulations7 ай бұрын
Hi Richard, The Twotter has actually been pulled off the Market (for PC also). Aerosoft has new plans for it apparently (which, I would hazard a guess, have something to do with MSFS 2024 haha). So, you may have to wait a while but, I expect you will see the aircraft on the console at some point ; ) Cheers, all the best!
@richardstoffel65857 ай бұрын
@@IntotheBlueSimulations yay! I hope so. I’m gathering stuff to build pc / sim now. What graphic card do you use? So far I’ve bought controls and a radio / AP stack / monitor / so I’m pretty much left with just the system now. I’m Building kind of backwards haha
@IntotheBlueSimulations6 ай бұрын
Hi Richard, I’m running an RTX4090, at the moment. It’s probably somewhat overkill for MSFS, especially at 1080p but, obviously it gives me a lot of overhead on fps etc. I have run an GTX1070, RTX2080 and RTX4090 over the lifetime of the channel; I leave my system specs in the description of each of my videos so, it might be worth watching some older content also and getting a feel for what each spec of system can achieve graphically. I hope that helps a little. Cheers : )
@egg-iu3fe2 жыл бұрын
how do you get that type of camera movement looking around the cockpit, is that track IR?
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
Hi Egg, Yes, it is indeed TrackIR : ) All the best!
@user-sg5pq8vx3r Жыл бұрын
Is this a port over from FSX or a completely new aircraft for MSFS 2020? Looks just like the FSX version.
@IntotheBlueSimulations Жыл бұрын
A little bit of both, Patrick. In theory, I believe it’s a “whole new aircraft”, but I think the MSFS version shares a lot of the DNA with the FSX version (though sadly, not the Extended version). It’s a bit of a moot point at the moment though, as Aerosoft actually pulled the product from sale haha - apparently they have secret plans for it, before they bring the aircraft back to MSFS. . . Cheers and all the best : )
@PhotonBread2 жыл бұрын
Really hoping this comes to Xbox and the CRJ Back sooner rather than later. Super pumped for some Lukla landings in the Twin if it ever makes it to Xbox
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
Hi Photon, I’m pretty sure this one will make it to the Xbox no worries. Aerosoft seem very keen to have the Twin Otter out on the Xbox, in fact they’ve even tailored the addon specifically (apparently). I’m actually somewhat surprised they went for a PC-first release, given the circumstances. Anyway you should be diving into Lulkla sooner rather than later, I would hope : ) Cheers, all the best!
@vikramodedra43512 жыл бұрын
Hi ITBS, Thanks for sharing this review, I've come across your channel recently, and I like your honest review unlike some YTer who acts like marketing agent of developers and shows only good things and hide weak points and lack lot of technical knowledge of aviation to even find them so 👍👍. I am still waiting for A2A level of GA aircrafts in MSFS, I have JF Warrior and Asobo's Toprudder 103 solo they are good but no where near A2A level, so I mostly go back and forth between FSX, MSFS and XP. Would you please review FreedomFox for MSFS was built by Parallel 42, I know it is no where near A2A quality but it looks like fun plane particularly for followers of Trent Palmer.
@Vograx2 жыл бұрын
I have the FreedomFox and absolutely love it. It’s a simple aircraft in and of itself. No advanced avionics or systems to worry about. It’s fantastic for exploring areas at low altitudes as it has excellent visibility and can pretty much land and take off from anywhere be it runway or a creek. That said it would be great to see ITBS give it a go even though he tends to focus on more advanced aircraft :)
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
Hi Vikram, Thank you very much for your kind words, really glad to hear you’re enjoying the channel! I try my best to be accurate and fair. I wouldn’t profess to get it right all the time, but I certainly wouldn’t say something I didn’t believe to be true, good or bad. Actually, I have recently been in touch with Parallel 42 and will indeed be showcasing the Freedom Fox on the channel at some point. It probably won’t be a typical review vid, but I do have a little something planned ; ) Thanks again for your message and indeed for your suggestion! All the best : )
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
I hear good things Vograx and indeed the Freedom Fox will be making an appearance on the channel in the not too distant future! ; ) Cheers!
@Genz6272 жыл бұрын
great game
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, MSFS (despite still having its issues) is coming along very nicely isn’t it Curabot! All the best : )
@gamingandtechnology69132 жыл бұрын
What a plane 👍👌
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the Twotter is a classic! It’s not going to beat Concorde across the Atlantic, but it can do almost everything else : P Cheers! : )
@johnarnold74602 жыл бұрын
I liked this aircraft although there are 2 annoyances for me Firstly CTRL e (auto start engines) requires external switch set to BATT and DC master switch to be set ON - other aircraft do NOT require any switches to be set on for CTRL e to work. Secondly when the weather is raining the wipers do not clear the windscreen like on other aircraft. I wonder if Aerosoft is aware of this.
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
Hi John, Happy to hear you’re enjoying the Twin Otter overall! I agree that it’s less than ideal when an aircraft doesn’t fully start up using CTRL-E, it rather defeats the point of the function if it doesn’t. Regarding the windshield wipers, that’s actually the norm rather than the exception. Currently the only aircraft in the sim (that I am aware of) with “working” windshield wipers, is the Fenix Airbus A320; by default, the sim doesn’t support visual removal of precipitation on the windscreen. Cheers and all the best! : )
@jonheuer49457 ай бұрын
hey how do i turn on/off the instrument lights?
@IntotheBlueSimulations6 ай бұрын
Hello Jon, Apologies but, it’s been so long since I last flew the Twotter, that I don’t recall. Does the manual not detail anything? Sorry I can’t be of more help on that one. All the best!
@Tazer6912 жыл бұрын
The sounds in this thing just totally ruin it in its current state. There is almost no change in volume from 0 to around 60% power and then all of a sudden it changes to a higher rpm sound out of the blue. Very glaring and totally unacceptable. A total immersion killer imo. Also the AP has major issues. If you try to do a coupled ILS approach it attempts to kill you by pitching you into the ground if you go below a certain speed. ALT hold also is very twitchy. I give it a 5 out of 10 in its current condition. Having said that the modeling is very nice. But thats about it for positives in my book.
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
The engine sounds need fixing up for sure Tazer and I believe Aerosoft are working on a patch as we speak (of course this should have been seen to before release though). You’re correct re the autopilot as well - it seems to have an issue with control authority at low speed (doesn’t seem to be able to maintain altitude below about 110kts). ALT hold I found to be ok at cruise speed myself though. . . Personally I’m rather enjoying the aircraft, though it isn’t up to the standards I was expecting from Aerosoft. I can see why many are a bit disappointed with it. All the best!
@DanMorera2 жыл бұрын
How come your fuel mixture lever is sitting at 50%? My DHC6 is only on and off (Aerosoft DHC-6 FOR MSFS 2020) I can't lean the fuel mixture on mine
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
Hi Dan, Sorry for the slow reply. I’m not sure that it is / was (unless I’ve misremembered something in the video)? If memory serves me correctly, I too only only had run / cutoff. Technically I think these are condition levers, as opposed to mixture levers (like you’d see on a piston), so it’s most likely they wouldn’t be operated linearly. That being said, most condition levers I’ve come across have a cutoff, low-idle and high-idle position; so I’m not sure whether the Twin Otter is genuinely different in that regard, or whether Aerosoft chose not to model things correctly for simplicity’s sake. Long story short, my condition levers only move between “on” and “off” also. I hope that helps a bit? All the best! : )
@DanMorera2 жыл бұрын
@@IntotheBlueSimulations thank you ,yeah did further research and they are on/off
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
Ah ok, no worries - you’re most welcome! : ) Cheers!
@Zenoman12342 жыл бұрын
Why does the Twin otter have gpws? I find it kind of weird.
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
Hi Rithvik, I believe it’s true to life of the real aircraft (at least some examples of it). I don’t know whether the Twotter comes with it as standard, but I found some examples of the aircraft online, that do indeed have GPWS capability. Hope that clarifies things. All the best! : )
@Zenoman12342 жыл бұрын
@@IntotheBlueSimulations thanks! But I didn’t like it anyway so I went into the sound.xml file and deleted the gpws.. ez fix for me lol. Thanks!
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
You’re most welcome! Haha, fair enough - I do hope you informed the relevant authorities. . . : P All the best : )
@mosheflute2 жыл бұрын
A great video as always, thanks! Am i mistaken saying, that the GTN 530 was not included in the previous sims - P3D and FSX? I liked the old auto pilot, which functions a bit differently than the 'regular' ones, like we see here. The challenge is different and more intensive with the old one. Have a great weekend!
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
Hi Moyse, Thanks very much once again! I believe the Twin Otter (and certainly P3D / FSX in general) did still come with with a GPS unit. Whether it was the GNS530, I’m not sure I’m afraid. I agree, the old autopilot was quirky and something a bit different. It’s always good fun trying to wrap your head around something slightly different. Ah well. . . Cheers! Hope you have a great weekend as well : )
@SparkySven2 жыл бұрын
Good video. I like the Otter too. Some others as Steve VR Flight Sim Guy are not happy with the engine sounds or some aspects of it like you also mentioned. Love the ATC chatters in your videos. What add on is this?
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
Hi Sven, Yes, I’m having great fun with the Twin Otter and enjoying it for what it is. I can certainly see why it’s not to everyone’s tastes though. It could definitely use a patch (I gather Aerosoft are working on one), the engine sounds do indeed need refining. The ATC chatter is courtesy of LiveATC.net - I then edit it into the video. I believe there is also an ATC chatter app available for MSFS though, if that’s the sort of thing you’re after. Hope that helps. Cheers! : )
@jmskelly592 жыл бұрын
Fantastic and thorough as always. I was holding off on getting the Twotter until after watching your review. I decided to pass and pick up the Kodiak instead. Loving it! :)
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much James! I’m glad the review was useful in helping you make your decision. The Kodiak is excellent, a very refined product and frankly what I think many of us were hoping the Twin Otter would be. Happy flying! : )
@gonzy77 Жыл бұрын
Is Aerosoft the only one that sells the DHC-6 add-on for MSFS2020? Thanks!
@IntotheBlueSimulations Жыл бұрын
Hi Federico, The Aerosoft Twin Otter, is the only version of the aircraft available for MSFS, but the addon can be purchased from a number of retailers including; the in-sim Marketplace, Simmarket and Orbx (as well as from Aerosoft directly of course). I hope that helps? All the best : )
@gonzy77 Жыл бұрын
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Yes it did. I just got myself a copy through the MSFS Market Place. Do you fly one (Twin Otter) irl?
@gonzy77 Жыл бұрын
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Thank you so much for your reply and this clip btw. 😀
@IntotheBlueSimulations Жыл бұрын
You’re most welcome - my pleasure!
@IntotheBlueSimulations Жыл бұрын
Great, happy to hear it! No, I don’t fly the Twin Otter in the real world - I’m on the Airbus myself (I’d love to have a go at flying the Twotter though, it looks like brilliant fun and I always hear good things). Happy flying and all the best! : )
@Squirel2 жыл бұрын
Awesome review. I actually bought it on the basis of your preview and the reputation of the developer. Could I also make one small suggestion. When you do an exterior view in order to hear the engine start, could you make it on the first engine start? I find that the first engine running drowns out the second engine starting.
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much Squirel! Haha, an excellent suggestion and I feel like a numpty for not having considered it XD I suppose I was going with the more logical procedural flow, but of course demonstrating the first start externally makes much more logical sense. I’ll try and remember to do that. I do hope you’re enjoying the Twotter. Obviously it has its issues currently, but it’s still a tonne of fun and I’d imagine its suiting you well (from what you said about enjoying a more casual simming experience). Apparently a patch is inbound to fix up the sounds. Thanks and happy flying! : )
@Squirel2 жыл бұрын
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Cheers !!
@Threefiddyz2 жыл бұрын
because of the sounds.... sticking with kodiak. that initial throttle up to wammmmmmm sound isn't good lol
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
Fair enough Dez! I had thought the sounds were just going to be like for the early-access version; I was rather surprised to still see the abrupt changes on the release version of the product. Agreed, the engine sounds still definitely need some work. . . Cheers!
@Flight2312 жыл бұрын
Is there a VLOC tracking issue? Looking at the deflection on the HSI, it looked quite a bit off center on the from radial? Enjoyed your allusion re the Asobo AP! :) The props were not feathered (external camera) before start. I believe the P6t engines are started in feather to facilitate a faster rise in oil pressure? Maybe thats just an external model issue? Anyway, as you say, its not a study level sim, so we cant be to picky. I have the P3d version, with the failures on the interactive checklist (Shift 2), so ill be remaining in P3d for this one!
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
There is indeed an issue David, unbeknownst to me at the time haha. Currently, tracking outbound from a radial is a bit of a no-no in the aircraft (no idea why) - apparently it’s due to be patched soon. Haha, well let’s call a spade a spade; the Asobo autopilot, may well be the only autopilot on the planet, that will actually do a worse job of flying the aircraft than me! : P You’re correct re the props being feather also. I did have them in the feathered position for the start, but it’s not currently modelled. In fact, it’s not even possible to feather the props in flight (a bit of a shocker)! Best to stick with P3D as far as the Twotter goes, at least for the time being. . . Cheers! : )
@CMACJAZZ2 жыл бұрын
Thanks again for an objective review and very pleasant flight, should there be a prop sync switch/ control?. Yes I have noticed the abrupt change in engine noise at various power settings which detracts from the immersion aspects, agree re in flight engine shut down and feather of prop etc pity Aerosoft didn’t go the extra distance.I am enjoying the experience and seems value for the money, I did a flight using the native A/P and that worked well for me.well, thank again and cheers for now Charlie.
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
My pleasure Charlie! I’m not sure regarding prop-sync. I didn’t see any mention of it in the checklist / manual, so perhaps the Twin Otter simply doesn’t have such a system? The sounds changes are unfortunate, but I gather they will be patched up soon. Feathering etc we may never see by the sounds of it (sadly). Likewise though, I am still enjoying the aircraft for what it is and at least it was more or less priced accordingly. Cheers!
@mikecoffee1006 ай бұрын
Hello , was wondering since I still have this in the cloud should I reinstall it ?? thank youuu. so what am on about take the loss and wait for something better perhaps.
@IntotheBlueSimulations6 ай бұрын
Well, if you already own the aircraft Mike, I don’t see any harm in a re-install? : ) I haven’t flown the Twotter since 2022’s XMAS vid haha but, I’ve always enjoyed the addon. . .
@Holdit66 Жыл бұрын
Nice. Does it have failures, engine fires and icing like the Twin Otter Extended?
@IntotheBlueSimulations Жыл бұрын
It does not, Holdit. The MSFS version *was* rather simplistic, as compared with the Extended version. I say “was”, as Aerosoft have actually pulled the Twin Otter from sale haha. Apparently the addon will be back at some point and people aren’t currently sure whether that means it’s being upgraded, planned for release as a “Local Legend” etc. Either way, the aircraft can’t be purchased currently, so we’ll just have to wait and see. . . I hope that helps. Cheers and all the best! : )
@Holdit66 Жыл бұрын
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Many thanks.
@IntotheBlueSimulations Жыл бұрын
You’re most welcome! : )
@swerv2222 жыл бұрын
I am new to the channel what plane or planes do you fly irl
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
Hi Ace, Forgive me if I'm repeating myself (I think we may have had this discussion elsewhere), but I am on the Airbus : ) All the best!
@swerv2222 жыл бұрын
@@IntotheBlueSimulations ok cool that is awesome
@Adventure4942 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the review. How did you get the background ATC chatter?
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
Hi 494, Cheers, my pleasure! The ATC sounds are recordings from LiveATC.net, that I’ve then edited into the video. I believe there is an MSFS ATC chatter app available though, if that’s the sort of thing you’re after (I believe it’s just called FS chatter, or something similar). I hope that helps. All the best! : )
@Adventure4942 жыл бұрын
@@IntotheBlueSimulations yes it does help. Thank you!
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
Great! You’re most welcome : )
@jeffersonlord42999 ай бұрын
Aerosoft have discontinued this😢, is there anyplace anyone is aware of that I can get this aircraft ?
@IntotheBlueSimulations9 ай бұрын
Hello Jefferson, Yes, unfortunately Aerosoft have discontinued the Twin Otter for the time being and the addon isn’t available for purchase anywhere at the moment (so far as I am aware). It was stated that the Twotter will be making a reappearance at some point though, so you should still be able to fly the aircraft at some point in the future : ) I hope that clarifies things a little. All the best!
@jeffersonlord42999 ай бұрын
@IntotheBlueSimulations I actually reached out to aerosoft about this and they replied. "Thanks for contacting Aerosoft. Unfortunately, this product is no longer available for purchase on any platform, as this product is no longer with the Aerosoft development team. With friendly greetings," In anycase I now found Said aircraft as a torrent and downloaded it for evaluation of course. Should Aerosoft sort themselves out I will of course pay for a licence !!!
@IntotheBlueSimulations9 ай бұрын
Ahh, ok Jeff, thanks for the info. I didn’t realise that Aerosoft had relinquished the product completely. A lot of us (myself included) think that the Twotter is destined to be included with MSFS 2024, which makes sense, if Aerosoft have completely handed over the addon to “someone” else. All the best!
@vilimonebaleruarua9397 Жыл бұрын
How do i get this aircraft on msfs ?
@IntotheBlueSimulations Жыл бұрын
I’m afraid you can’t at the moment, Vilimone. Aerosoft actually pulled the Twin Otter from sale; apparently the aircraft will be back at a later date, but we’ve been given no information regarding exactly what is going on (my guess, the aircraft will be coming back in MSFS 2024). I hope that clarifies things. Cheers and all the best! : )
@richdyer20002 жыл бұрын
I’ve got one, but find it unflyable with the sound mixing. The transitions as you apply throttle are bad, then I need engines, warnings and environment all set to ~15% to hear ATC, and there’s none of the creaking sound from the airframe that gives you feedback. I’m assuming that will get fixed soon.
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
I believe you’re correct Richard (that a fix should be issues soon) - the sound issues have been acknowledge and a patch should be issued in the coming days to address them (and a few other deficiencies in the product). At least, that’s what I’ve been told secondhand. . . Fingers crossed the patch irons out at least some of the creases! Cheers : )
@richdyer20002 жыл бұрын
@@IntotheBlueSimulations yep - I'm quite confident it will be fixed soon. There's obviously been a huge amount of effort put into this, and I can imagine the developers are passionate enough that they'd do it in their own time if necessary!
@beepIL2 жыл бұрын
Really loving this aircraft, But the takeoff and handling just feels like i am flying a paper plane, it feels like it weighs nothing The engine sound inside (probably realistic) but is LOUD to a point where it is uncomfortable for more than a few minutes. Did you turn on the wipers? I rather be blind by the rain than have that aggressive sound play on repeat throughout the flight...
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
Hi BeepIL, I agree, the takeoff and landing feels rather strange at the moment. Rather vague, not much interaction with the ground and pretty light as you say. Oddly, I don’t remember that being the case when I previewed the aircraft; I’m not sure whether Aerosoft changed something. The aircraft controls quite well at least, despite not feeling right. Haha, I think the engine sounds might even be louder than the real thing : P The engine sounds are indeed overly loud. I did mean to make mention of this during the review, but forgot unfortunately. I believe a patch is coming soon to address the engine sounds (amongst other things), hopefully it will fix the volume levels, as well as the transitions. Didn’t get a chance to try the wipers actually, hopefully they address the volume of those sounds as well then - in the mean time I’ll just avoid the rain ha. All the best! : )
@jamesdouglas36312 жыл бұрын
anyone know where the switch for baggage doors are?
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
Hi James, The two switches are a little bit hidden away; they are down behind the right hand side of the control column. If you remove the control column (by clicking on the base of it), you will find the switches on the console just behind (nearer to the floor, than to the top of the panel). Hope that helps. All the best! : )
@joemarkowski44652 жыл бұрын
"We'll be tracking outbound on the radial..." Oh nooooooooo.
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
Ha! Some of your posts do give me a chuckle Joe XD It’s good to keep a little bit of levity / perspective with these sorts of things for sure ; ) Cheers!
@joemarkowski44652 жыл бұрын
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Doing my best!
@redtailpilot2 жыл бұрын
Started watching the review, but got sidetracked by the comments. Back to the Kodiak and Skymaster for me 😂 Sad because I was really looking forward to adding the Twotter to my hangar, but that won't be happening unless some serious updates are released!!!
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
Haha, the comment section does have a habit of doing that! XD To be fair, that’s where you’ll find all the really decent info - better than listening to me waffling on : P The Twotter is fun, but currently it isn’t up to the standards most of us were hoping for unfortunately. An update is already scheduled within the next couple of days (apparently), let’s see. . . All the best! : )
@TheBassman03272 жыл бұрын
is this aircraft study level? for home training
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
Hello again La Mar, No this one I wouldn't class as study level. Most of the switches and buttons work, so it could be used to get familiar with the DHC-6, but there isn't a lot of depth to the aircraft systems and quite a bit of functionality has been left out (for example the props cannot be feathered). A fun addition to the sim, but not a study level one. . . All the best! : )
@TheBassman03272 жыл бұрын
@@IntotheBlueSimulations thx for the info
@TacticalSandals2 жыл бұрын
I really hope they fix the sounds or FTSim makes a soundpack for it to fix those atrocious engine sounds.
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
Hi Tactical, I believe Aerosoft are working on a patch, that should be out within the next few days. I gather sounds (at least the abrupt changes) will be one of the items addressed. Let’s see. . . Cheers! : )
@TacticalSandals2 жыл бұрын
@@IntotheBlueSimulations It's a fantastic aircraft to fly but it def feels unfinished. I am sure a patch or two can fix most of its issues though. And I am sure aerosoft will get there. To be honest when the CRJ 550/700 first released they were hot garbage but after a few updates they have become very good aircraft (esp with the FTSims soundpack) I am sure the Twotter will be the same.
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
I think you’re right Tactical. As you say, it was somewhat the same situation with the CRJ and it wouldn’t be the first Aerosoft addon that’s released like this. I think it is a little more unfinished than we’re used to from them, but I do think they will have it fixed up in due course. In the mean time, I’ll just have to hope an engine doesn’t fail! ; ) Cheers!
@danielguerrero11762 жыл бұрын
Mach Loop?
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
Haha, for sure at some point Daniel. I was actually planning on having a Mach Loop video up yesterday, but ended up putting out a Twin Otter update video instead (as Aerosoft just patched the aircraft). Cheers! : )
@Oldathen2 жыл бұрын
what is with the long list of bugs? The sound of the plane you show is not the same sound loudness every one will get when he buy that plane. It is awful annoying loud! Even with turned down to 30 in the MSFS Sound options...
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
Hi Stefan, Do you mean; what is with the long list of bugs I gave, or with the long list of bugs that the aircraft has? For sure the sounds are much louder in reality, but I have to adjust the sound volume in every video I record, otherwise most aircraft would drown out the commentary. The Twin Otter does have an issue with the engine sounds being overly loud and I did mean to make mention of it, but simply forgot to do so I’m afraid. . . Cheers!
@wvbandit19482 жыл бұрын
The Aerosoft Twin Otter was fast becoming my favorite until I found a hole between the cockpit and the passenger compartment in VR. I reported this to them and finally was able to send them screen shots. Today they more or less told me that you are not supposed to be able to be between the cockpit and rest of the fuselage that there was nothing they were going to do about it. This is the last Aerosoft product that I will purchase. I already have the CRJ. I will not accept shoddy workmanship when I spend my money. I have the HP Reverb G2 VR Headset and I see a gaping hole when I am seated in the pilot's seat and look up and back at the overhead panel. You can see out of the aircraft and see No. 1 Engine also. Aerosoft's response was: But that view is only when you move your head through the wall, into the cabin. Ans as that simply is not possible in the real aircraft there is not a lot we can do about that. With friendly greetings, Mathijs Kok Aerosoft Customer Support
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
I’m sorry to hear that Ford. I can *somewhat* see both sides or the argument; perhaps Aerosoft had not anticipated people being able to look there, but of course as the user, you don’t want to be seeing a gaping hole etc! We all want quality customer service for our money, as well as quality products and sometimes flight sim devs seem oblivious to this. A large gap in the structure is not really acceptable, so I do hope Aerosoft will reconsider their stance, as they have done with other aspects of the aircraft. Despite its shortfalls, I very much enjoy the Twin Otter, as it seems you were. Sorry to hear it has since been somewhat tainted for you. Cheers and all the best!
@piotrmkg2 жыл бұрын
How does it stack against Kodiak?
@oisinkenny12 жыл бұрын
No comparison unfortunately
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
At the moment, not too well unfortunately Piotr. Personally I am still very much enjoying the Twin Otter (it is good fun), however in technical terms there is a significant division between the two addons. The Kodiak, is incredibly refined; excellent modelling, texturing, sounds, flight modelling, good systems as well (+ some nice custom features). Everything is very nicely “polished”, making it one of the best addons currently available in the sim. The Twin Otter on the other hand, is decent enough in most areas, but there are certain aspects of the product that feel unfinished, namely the engine sounds. Aerosoft have quite openly stated that the Twin Otter has had its fidelity reduced, to “make it Xbox compatible”. I hope that helps. All the best! : )
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I think we were all hoping the that the Twin Otter would be a little bit closer to the Kodiak Oisin. . . Hopefully Aerosoft will have a change of heart and correct some of the “Xbox concessions”. At the very least, the engine sounds need fixing. Cheers!
@FlyIslandGuy2 жыл бұрын
Kodiak is way better
@liortaylor53052 жыл бұрын
I picked up the Kodiak while waiting for this plane, and now I kind of think I should have simply stuck to the Kodiak. I was expecting a lot more from Aerosoft, will have to hold off with any of their future planes to make sure they are really up to snuff. The Kodiak feels like a polished, finished product. This is more like an early beta that may or may not improve if the claims about the XBOX concessions are true.
@CMACJAZZ2 жыл бұрын
Reply from Aerosoft amounted to- OK Sir we keep your comments in mind with friendly greetings Mathijs kok customer support Aerosoft This is to my question on the subject being aired in the last days, hardly a reply of substance!
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
Not really very substantive is it Charlie. . . That sounds like a polite dismissal if ever I’ve heard one ha. Still, thank you very much for airing your concerns - I’m sure you speak for many of us. Maybe if they get enough feedback, Aerosoft will have a change of heart (though it sounds like they’ve made up their minds. . .). Cheers!
@simtherapy95332 жыл бұрын
I can now die a happy man. 😇
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
Haha, well please don’t do that ST! Stay with us! : P Cheers. Hope you enjoyed it : )
@carlwalker2702 жыл бұрын
"The sounds in the aircraft are excellent" - But they aren't. They're miss-matched, have no volume normalization, no blending, and the engine is so loud you can't hear ATC. I love your content, you helped me get into the game, but this feels affiliated now.
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
Hi Carl, For what it’s worth, that was a lack of articulation on my part, as opposed to anything nefarious haha. What I really meant was “the cockpit sounds are excellent” - and indeed I think they are. Nice control sounds, switch sounds, systems sounds etc. I agree that the engine sounds need some work; they’re too loud (which I did neglect to mention) and a complete lack of blending, which I did make mention of a couple of times throughout the review in fairness. As far as affiliations go,; Aerosoft were kind enough to let me take a look at the product (again I was transparent about this), but otherwise it was my full and honest opinions as ever (I specifically warn any devs ahead of time, that this is what they will get from a review on the channel). I know the Twin Otter is far from perfect (and again I did point out quite a few flaws during the review - some of which I’m sure Aerosoft would rather I hadn’t), but I am genuinely enjoying it and honesty works both ways; I’m not going to pretend I dislike a product, just because I know many others don’t (not that I think you’re suggesting I should). Of course I will have opinions that others don’t agree with from time to time, but I can assure you my opinions on this channel are always my own. Either way, I’m super happy I helped you get into MSFS! I actually set the channel up to champion flight simulation, as opposed to being a review channel specifically - I’m really glad you’re enjoying the hobby : ) Cheers and all the best!
@Vigulfr2 жыл бұрын
Eh looks like a pass for me. Those audio transitions with engine changes are quite bad. Also AS have said the reason there's no feathering or trim wheel animations is because they were hitting memory limits for the Xbox so didn't implement them and I really don't like that. Never really been a fan of AS products over the years and that impression isn't really changing for me with their MSFS releases. Was hoping the Twotter would be good but the reception has been very mixed and eh. Oh well, got the Porter and Kodiak to keep me happy for turbo-props and I can spend the money I was saving on this on something else like AH's recent offerings or the Goose Big Radials have coming out soon which I hope will be good. Flying Iron also have a Hellcat in the works that looks quite nice and should be quite good judging from their earlier stuff. I was never really a big fan of warbirds in the older civilian sims but they're really tickling my fancy in MSFS for some reason. Thanks for the vid!
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
Wait. . . FlyingIron are doing a Hellcat?? Happy days! I’m a big Hellcat fan, been looking forward to one in the sim and as it’s FlyingIron, you pretty much know it’s going to be good already (I had hoped MILVIZ might do one, but this will be the next best thing). As I was saying to someone else in another thread; clearly the likes of Captainsim, Aerosoft et al have decided to take a change of course and whilst I think that’s a little disappointing (after all, who’s been supporting them for the last couple of decades), I’m not too concerned, as the new kids on the block (SWS, FlyingIron etc) seem to be doing it just as well, if not better. The Twin Otter is good fun, but it could have been so much more. A real shame that Aerosoft chose to hamstring it right off the bat. I was the same for the most part re warbirds / military stuff in civilian sims Megadyptes, but for whatever reason I’ve had a change of heart with MSFS too. I rather enjoy cruising around, waxing my moustache and shouting “tally ho” at everyone ; ) Right, well I’m off to go and take a look at FlyingIron’s latest news - tally ho!
@Vigulfr2 жыл бұрын
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Yeah there's a blogpost about it on their website and a thread on the Microsobo forums as well. They also tease an Fw190 and Bf109 in that blog post after showing off some A-7 for DCS news. There's also another Grumman cat in the works with Got Friends' Wildcat which should also be pretty good as Got Gravel also does the flight models for the Flying Iron birds. Those virtual modded carriers are gonna be pretty busy soon hopefully!
@Vigulfr2 жыл бұрын
Oh also Ant confirmed that the Tiger Moth is coming to MSFS over on the Sim Outhouse forums. Very excited for that!
@bluesfool12 жыл бұрын
Until they fix a list of stuff, this is a no buy for me. Sounds terrible, flight model on approaches is off. Can’t even make the tires round? Come on aerosoft. Whatd y’all do for two years while making this?
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
Understandable Jason and I don’t think you’re the only one in this position. It will be interesting to see how many of the issues do get fixed up - it seems Aerosoft are sticking by their principle of making it “Xbox compatible”. If they want to take that approach, then they ought to put out “extended” versions of the same product, for PC users. Personally I am enjoying the Twin Otter, but some of its omissions are not really forgivable in the modern age I agree. All the best!
@mikaelstix77212 жыл бұрын
Can you make a flight from Amsterdam to saint Maarten pls😅
@Topcat19522 жыл бұрын
Big fuel tank in the fuselage. 🙂
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
Haha. Air-to-air refuelling in the Twotter : P
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
Haha, that would be quite a mammoth undertaking Mikael, even for a modern jet, let along the poor little Twin Otter! XD I’m afraid I will have to politely decline that suggestion : P
@mikaelstix77212 жыл бұрын
@@IntotheBlueSimulations yes because Saturday I fly from Frankfurt to saint Maarten and the flight was so long over 7 hours and the landing wasn’t Butter it was hard and then I make flight from st Maarten to Saint Barthélemy
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
Ahh, well a least you knew you’d landed! XD Sounds like an amazing trip! Lucky you. Enjoy! : )
@perth10182 жыл бұрын
Cant find it on xbox
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
It’s not out on Xbox yet unfortunately Rudi, but for sure it is planned to be released on the console. I’m afraid I don’t know how long the wait will be. . . All the best! : )
@perth10182 жыл бұрын
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Thnx for the prompt reply Happy flying
@pgtrots2 жыл бұрын
Wow those startup sounds are trash tier. How did it take them so long and still think this is ok?
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
Hi pgtrots, I must admit, I thought the sound issues would only be relevant to the preview version of the aircraft - I was quite surprised to see them still there at final release. Not what I was expecting from Aerosoft. . . Cheers!
@killerbsting16212 жыл бұрын
This plane needs a patch. Sounds are screwed up big timeeeeeeee.
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
Very true Killer. Sounds need patching, as do a number of other items. I believe Aeosoft are currently working on an update, but I was surprised to see the sounds release in the state that they did. . . Cheers!
@omarliew11642 жыл бұрын
My review for this aircraft: An unfinished product for an unfinished product. Asobo set the benchmark here by basically releasing an early acces title for full price. And everyone seems to be taking the same approach. It's really overpriced crap to be honest. The sounds are the most obvious reason to not buy this aircraft. But the flight moddeling itself is prety poor too. One moment if feels like a heavy brick and the other moment it's a paper plane. Msfs is becoming a rippoff simulator.
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
That’s not an entirely unreasonable assessment Omar. Whilst I don’t feel quite as disillusioned as you do with MSFS, quality control in most things MSFS-related has been a bit all over the shop so far. The sim itself still needs a lot of work and quite a few of the addons we have seen are of questionable quality. Unfortunately, money seems to be dictating the course of the sim and there’s a lot of it coming from the more “casual” crowd apparently. . . All the best!
@jennydavis41982 жыл бұрын
A horrible plane to fly maybe i have a different version to you because this most definitely isn't fun , flight dynamics defy logic and the trim is ********* waste of money
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
Haha, I'm sure we have the same version Jenny - "fun" is subjective of course though. The Twotter definitely flies funny, almost fly by wire-esque at times, but I knew well ahead of the product's release, that sadly this was not going to be a high fidelity offering; I enjoy it for what it is though and I have had some genuinely enjoyable flights in it. Sorry that you feel it was money down the drain though - that's never fun! Perhaps best to park the Twotter up and go and enjoy some 310 shenanigans instead! ; ) All the best : )
@jennydavis41982 жыл бұрын
@@IntotheBlueSimulations well i disagree , i will be honest i consider it fraud, the flight dynamics are utterly wrong its is almost impossible to control speed and descent simultaneously, while ,i have flown it for a good few hours now one min can seem fine only to just change its behaviour on thr next flight so imho it i still think its the biggest pile of shit available if i could physically throw it in aerosofts face i would . while i may not be a pro pilot I don't have any issues like this from the arrow, Concorde, pmdg 737 the 146 or milviz porter only the otter
@CMACJAZZ2 жыл бұрын
Aerosoft Why have you downgraded the fidelity aspect of the T/O on PC platforms, you have and are attracting a great deal of disappointment in the PC Platform community, you have done this to favour X Box users and completely dumbed down what could have been a world beating add on - shame on you all for greed and sales, FYI I will never buy another Aerosoft product, much of the fidelity that you could have installed simply is not modeled like inflight engine feathering and a no of other engine related controls /tests that are not modeled. you need to have honesty and integrity to clearly advise PC users don't waste their money on gaming compatible products. I have lost all confidence in your products, you wasted a great opportunity with the Twin Otter. I purchased after watching several well done pre release reviews based on sound likely judgements by the reviewers sadly you Aersoft LET US DOWN BADLY .
@IntotheBlueSimulations2 жыл бұрын
Very fairly put Charlie. Aerosoft are of course welcome to pursue whichever target market they please, but I think many of us feel that the situation is disappointing, given that it’s passionate flight simmers who have been keeping them in business all of these years. I don’t understand why the Twin Otter has to be hamstrung, to “fit onto the Xbox”. Create a PC-standard simulation and then dumb it down for the Xbox if necessary? I feel somewhat guilty as well: When I took a preview look at the aircraft, I was expecting that (as with most preview products) the outstanding issues would be fixed up. It seems little has changed since then and I’m sure many (including yourself) purchased, with the same expectations as myself - so, sorry about that! Personally I’m enjoying the aircraft, but I can see where people’s frustrations lie - and not being able to feather a prop etc is well below standard - Carenado have had that one figured out almost since the sim’s release! All the best
@calinutza3310 ай бұрын
The Garmin gps doesn’t switch on anymore ! 😢 what should I do ? I love this bird. !
@IntotheBlueSimulations9 ай бұрын
Huh, that’s a shame Cali. . . I presume one of the WT updates has made the Garmin incompatible with the aircraft. Perhaps it’s worth trying to uninstall the WT mods (if you have any installed) and maybe try the PMS GNS mod also (if that’s still kicking around). Are you sure you don’t have any hardware conflicts causing the issue? Otherwise, I think we’re out of luck, as Aerosoft is no longer selling the Twin Otter and therefore, presumably not supporting the addon either (though the Twotter will be making a comeback at a later date). Sorry I can’t be of more help on that one. All the best!
@calinutza339 ай бұрын
@@IntotheBlueSimulations it’s working now again ! Thank you. !