Thomas & Stereo Could you answer a question for me: If you have a speaker with an impedance of 6ohms, which post should it be connected to, the 4ohms or the 8ohms???

@@aldoantoniovicentesilva6996 Usually I would go with 4 ohm but it can sound better with 8 ohm. Some 8 ohm speakers will dip down to 3.2ohm. My understanding is you will have a better idea looking at the impedance graph.

@@ThomasAndStereo Thomas thank you very much for your response and for your attention. Personal success for you and success for your channel!!! 👍👍👍

Thomas I would like to purchase these but any idea how these compare to the prodigy PMC1s? They are a bit more expensive but would be an interesting comparison.

A very heart warming message and encouragement. The world would be a better place if people had your kind of attitude. Thanks, it made my day.

Thanks, so far the feedback from others has been really positive. Fun to listen to.

Thanks!

Welcome back!

Behind the scene, a few KZfaqrs have gotten their hands on it, some great videos coming soon.

Thanks a lot.

Hope you enjoyed it!

My pleasure!!

Thanks, yes I remember your system and I cannot only imagine how big the soundstage would be. Transmission line has its strength and personally I had a few in my house before, I think everyone should give it a try. Thanks for your comment.

@@ThomasAndStereo Yeah, that was the primary idea in creating the line arrays and their strong point is indeed in the size of the image and soundstage. The components aren't that expensive and the tonality may not be up to the better speakers, but it most DEFINITELY does show up differences in image placement and soundstage. Just a quick example, the recent Pink Floyd Animals remix. Yes, it was far more defined and exact in its presentation, but on my system I could tell that the 1st UK pressing which is indeed murkier and darker, still had a more 'organic' and natural placement of instruments in the soundstage. Whereas with the 'cleaner' more precise remix, the placement of the instruments sounded to me to be more artificial and not as naturally appearing in the image, which to me the original UK pressing sounds better. Also, the material lends itself to a more dark, atmospheric landscape, kind of like the original Vertigo UK pressings of the early Black Sabbath albums. On my system, that is why a LOT of these recent 1/2 speed Abbey Road remasters do not sound very good. There are exceptions, but many of them come across as fremer said about the recent Who's Next album, 'like they are projected flat across a shower curtain' In other words with no real depth or dimension.

I'm a near field listener too. 85 sounds like 100, too much.

Thanks a lot!

Yes, I have listened to over 100 speakers, I can count a handful that have midrange that melts my heart.

Thanks for letting the world know! Yes, it has very good synergy with Galion amps...I wonder why 🤔🤣

Awesome! Thank you!

I think so too!

Starts from 85db? Man you are going to a live concert everytime you listen to your system!

When I say 85db, I meant from 6 to 7 ft away from the speakers

That's what my neighbours says too🤣🤣🤣

Yes, glad you like them. This experience at my place showed you that sound demo is useless in showcasing speakers.

If you can afford the Sibelius, then go for the Sibelius. The Sibelius bass is much better controled and balance. It will reproduce unamplified instruments accurately. The TS Voyager TL is a fun speaker that don't care about being neutral, accurate and yada , yada, yada

Yes but that setup is meant to drive speakers of $5k and up. It does sound very very good with these speakers.

@@ThomasAndStereo please make that preamp holding up to Loic's Melody pre amp...

@@goodsound4756 I think he has a very expensive pre amp!

@@ThomasAndStereo yes you will have to compete against a $16 K gear. But a good sounding Preamp has not to cost as much as that.

I don't have a connection but if I come across it, I will.

Thanks, no plans to sell stands.

Interesting. I think a lot of single driver speakers uses the cabinet in a similar way. I don't know if anyone has used Coaxial.

@@ThomasAndStereo we can have something to beat Kef metas 😀🙌

Yeah, next time at a live stream, tell him to get his lazy ass off the couch and start working!

@@ThomasAndStereo haha. Maybe I'll word it differently lol

@@ThomasAndStereowe do every time but hes too caught up playing with his pretty Accuphase amps. 😅

I don't have a speaker stand to recommend but the closer you can get the tweeter pointing to your ear, the better. Maybe 28 inch high stand.

It is an sb acoustic driver, thanks

You just got schooled son! It's not a SEAS driver LMAOOOOO

im glad you found it so amusing , you must be very easy to amuse @@YouSoundButtHurt

I heard them at a subscribers home. Strong and confident, but on the dark side so it will be very different than the 8000F.

Happy Polk r700 owner here - very happy with them. For comparison, was running Klipsch rb82iis before, so these were a step up in price - not as lively on the top end, but smoother - and very smooth and coherent all the way up and down the musical spectrum, can hit plenty hard with the 80 wpc Onkyo tx8260, which (in the context of channels like this) would be considered a mid-fi receiver.

I appreciate SO MUCH your update... Really think will go for the R700...

HAHAHAHAH

It has a very interesting bass

No, no plans.

Thanks, I think way less than that..play heavy bass music for a few hours should be enough.

Ok, thank you for the quick reply.

I might get a room to showcase the Galion TS A20 class A solidstate amp and the upcoming Tube preamp with a $10k speaker. Then organize a get together with my subscribers to showcase this TL speaker after hours.

@@ThomasAndStereo That would be awesome!

​@@ThomasAndStereo preamp? Please be balanced.

Ask Sean how it compares to the R200 in a live stream. He did AB test it against the Polk, ATC and Buchardt p300.

Ah, you should ask him in a live stream.

Yes room 1226

See you there! @@ThomasAndStereo

Yeah, you can't go wrong with that. Those Gato speakers look amazing. So affordable!

yes, it is stated on his website for the speaker's specs

There are reasons to put the tweeter as close to the woofer as possible. Single driver or coaxial even put the tweeter inside the woofer. However, like everything in life, there are pros and cons. Take Harbeth for example, everyone say you need a thick cabinet, yet they use thin cabinets.

It depends on where the speakers are crossovered over and the size of the mid woofer . A lot of big name speaker companies don't really care but in diy I do the math.

Those are SB acoustics.

Pmc felt more like a traditional speaker. Tighter bass, perhaps because you cannot remove the foam. Pmc also had a very lively top end with lots of detail, I love that speaker. The Voyager is very different, it feels bigger with wider soundstage and as I mentioned smoother and warmer. Both are good but for different audience. The PMC has a more traditional presentation and will work in most rooms. The Voyager is more polarizing.

I bought the PMC gold some time back because of you and your program. still happy with them, thx@@ThomasAndStereo

@sanne2786 I love those speakers, great for desktop and in a normal room, just add a sub and you can get off the audiophile merry go round.

Ah, I was just checking if you were paying attention :)

@@ThomasAndStereo I was looking to see what the exact depth is and saw that. You should also have it in metric Mr. T.

Yes, it is $1195 a pair. Thanks!

Carl ,this doesn’t mean that you aren’t an audiophile…I to have been on a budget all my life, and if you follow THOMAS and many other UTUBE people…they will tell you that,all you need is a love 💕 of music 🎶 and the equipment,old or new that makes you an audiophile 🤗👍,CONGRATS,NOW YOU KNOW 💚💚💚

Bro... You're an audiophile. It's okay. 😂

If the TL is well designed, these would be a steal.

If you're interested in sound quality you're an audiophile, the $ spent are irrelevant

You are definitely an audiophile. And you have a great set of speakers there too. ✌️

Yes they are

I have one developed, horn but not TL. Bass is insane on that one, but I am not sure I will bring it to market due to cost.

@ThomasAndStereo look at Fritz speakers. How does he do that??? Berylium Purifi, $4200. I mean, other than he hand builds them after you order lol. Anyway, I know, I know. Buy please try to develop I guess a slightly more high end TL bookshelf.

Both sound demo used the same matrix Dac. I had the matrix directly into the ts A75. Yes, it has good synergy the A75 and the speaker. Another KZfaqr who has both noticed the same and glad you can tell in a sound demo. The speaker can work on a desktop with the ports closed but it is a very big speaker. You might be better of waiting for the Special edition which is more of a Harberth p3esr type of speaker.

@@ThomasAndStereo Thanks for the reply! I am actually very keen for the TS A75 amp now, seeing it is out of stock, I can wait and see for the SE speaker. Do review it too pls. Ignore all the haters saying is you are now advertising for your audiophile stuff. It is alrdy clearly on the title. They can don't click if not interested, just like I am not keen on a tube amp as I do not have space on my desktop, unless you will be releasing a mini version. The views number will dictate whether the content is well received. Rock on Thomas!

@@ThomasAndStereowhen is the special edition version coming out? I am a big fan of ls3/5a type sound

@@twenty4seven368 I am bringing it around to get people's opinion. So far, everyone likes it. I just need to send it to Sean to get his opinion once I finish letting people listen here in Canada. I will demo it for 30 minutes at the Montreal audio show for my subscribers.

Interesting!

It should. Check wikipedia?

It has it, very specifically placed. That's why nobody makes them.

I owned the Meadowlark kestrel two transmission line speakers years ago. Absolutely fantastic speaker for the price.

These speakers are made for them.

How about for Jacky Cheung and Beyond? This or the voyager mkii?

This tweeter is used in some usher speakers so it can be hyper detail. It is a simple resistor value change in the crossover. I did contemplate on that and experiment. Eventually I decided on this voicing because there are many speakers with hyper detail top end on the market but only a few with buttery smooth midrange. You can go for the b&w 607, it is an amazing speaker with all the detail you need. I have that speaker and am really impressed.

Thank you Thomas. I'm not interested in the boosted highs of B&W speakers. Could I ask more about your speaker? Since you say the tweeter "can be" hyper-detailed, it sounds as if you have rolled it off somewhat so that the highs are not as pronounced. But that's a different thing from how "resolving" or "detailed" a tweeter actually is. That's what I'm trying to understand. Lots of music doesn't need a lot of detail -- and lots of music sounded good on the Buchardt S300MKII. But some didn't. Some electronic music for example has very complex overtones and echo effects and decays in the highs that are important to the music. Please comment more about the character of your speaker and what kind of music you feel it plays the best with. Thanks again!

@@williamdirks5805 Yes, there is a difference in resolution and detail. What you are looking for is resolution, let me get back to you on that because I don't listen to Electronic music myself. See what others who have my speaker say. Vocal of course it is good, jazz and classical music. I know Tee Jay the bargain stereophile likes it with rock.

Also going to depend on your electronics as well Just not the speaker ' I been playing loads of different music ' hell Godsmack was killing last night I was shocked how well the vocals sounds I couldn't believe how I could also hear the depth of the stage with vocals' bass guitar is absolutely Fireworks ! The midbody of the speaker is the star of the show ' I just got done listing to Black light syndromes track duende which gets very fast and complex with multiple instruments playing at the same time hard n fast and their was no smearing seperation is on point at 83-84db ' and lots of meat on the bone or midrange fullness (Body)'with drums i can at times hear the skin the drum meaning accuracy ' I am now listing to book of hours by Blacklight syndrome the tweeter is forgiving but still decay/reverb draw out into the room but its not overly drawn out ' but once i went from schiit Modius dac to my Denafrips Ares 2 and detail refinement gained a level in performace ' I can also easily hear the pick plucking the guitar strings so good resolution without being over baring ' imaging is good but for better results I do put them on axes meaning speakers pointing at me this really help with center focus ' Hope this helps this speaker will not be for everyone But @ Price Point Voyager will compete with higher end speakers I have also rolled threw a few Amps and my more Reveling Amps sounds best to me ' but those Amps like good to great recordings

@@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120 ok, thanks

Sure

6.1 kg each. It is at the bottom of the page. www.galion-audio.com/pages/ts-voyager-tl

@@ThomasAndStereo thanks thomas, I looked a day or two ago and I could have swore that wasn't there. Maybe you just updated it recently:-)

@@ryanschipp8513 Yes, I did.

@@ThomasAndStereo 👍 Looking forward to seeing you again at Axpona:)

@@ryanschipp8513 Sadly I will not be going this year :(

Nope, my canadian designer did design one and i was debating about that.

Both!

Galion Instant noodles 🍜

@@ThomasAndStereo smart ass,why you up late counting your yen ?

I don't think Canada uses Yen.😅

Damm loonie. I know the pain.

I used standard components in this speaker's crossover. The SE one has the expensive crossover with air coil for example.

@@ThomasAndStereo As long as their copper coils it should be alright and no sand cast resistors.

Yeah, the Jupiter vitaminQ is a bit more expensive than the Miflex KPCU-01.

@@ThomasAndStereo You are right.🤗

It's all relative because it is a transmission line. A $1000 bookshelf speaker is not the same as a $1000 transmission line speaker. For a transmission line speaker, it is super affordable.

@@ThomasAndStereo To me, it is still a bookshelf speaker and I have a hard time justifying spending more than $650 on a bookshelf speaker. I can see $1000 for a floorstanding (tower) speaker, but not a bookshelf speaker.

@@jukingeo Sure, different solutions for different people. The only question is what if you like the transmission line bass and would like to get one? Beyond budget, there is also 'do I like the sound or not' issue.

@@ThomasAndStereo I am curious about the design as I never had heard one before. The closest thing I got to it was a scooped vent box, which is kind of a horn loading and this was a commercial (DJ) speaker. It is a cross between a horn and bass reflex cabinet. Definitely not a transmission line. My closest experience with a small transmission line would be the Bose Wave Radio. If I liked the way the speaker sounds, of course I would be interested in it. Cost would be a stopping factor though as I do love the sound of Klipsch Forte speakers, but there is no way I am shelling out $3k for a pair of those.

Thanks for the feedback, I have updated it.