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@tohron675 3 жыл бұрын

"He underestimated Flash, and he lost." Add that to the list of phrases we didn't expect to hear in 2020.

@Wheatsolo 3 жыл бұрын

I was just staring blankly at my monitor. That's what I do 24/7!

@danielcalvo9063 3 жыл бұрын

The games were absolutely insane, I was on the edge of my seat the entire time.

@jordanackermann468 3 жыл бұрын

I didnt think it was possible this group's games could be better than last group's. I was wrong. This was insane.

@Catholic-Redpilled-Spaniard 3 жыл бұрын

Completamente, Daniel. Broodwar is THAT good.

@iusgaming 3 жыл бұрын

Match 1 31:46 Match 2 49:10 Winners' set 1 1:23:00 Winners' set 2 1:38:00 Winners' set 3 1:51:00 Losers' set 1 2:04:30 Losers' set 2 2:28:30 Losers' set 3 2:42:40 Final set 1 3:11:55 Final set 2 3:28:00 Final set 3 3:39:30

@goiflin5056 3 жыл бұрын

shoutouts to you man, spoiler free time stamps for sets are the best. Thanks a ton!

@wesleygilliland4885 3 жыл бұрын

Total time 4:20:00

@sTrouk007 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you

@myselfremade 3 жыл бұрын

@@wesleygilliland4885 nice

@calvinmills4069 3 жыл бұрын

@@wesleygilliland4885 best speed run category. 10/10

@ethansaltmere 3 жыл бұрын

The last game is literally the greatest comeback game I’ve ever seen in asl. Absolute insanity.

@utarian7 3 жыл бұрын

Credit to both players. They played their hearts out.

@azorthegreat2112 3 жыл бұрын

Maby jangbi vs zero (I think) comeback was even better (the time last time jangbi won.

@crumblecataclysm5607 3 жыл бұрын

He won like 3 fights down 30 supply and tech on mostly open ground. That is unthinkable.

@st3ppenwolf 3 жыл бұрын

Those reavers pay themselves 10 times over

@griftegrd 3 жыл бұрын

Best protoss vs protoss i've watched in my entire life.

@magustx 3 жыл бұрын

Flash is truly inspirational. Ever since he won Bacchus OSL at age 15

@AleksandarProkopec 3 жыл бұрын

When Snow was a kid, he didn't have a dog - he had a pet reaver.

@TheTrooperMB 3 жыл бұрын

And he threw the observer on the wall all the time thinking it was useless Xd (2019 final flashbacks)

@usmh 2 жыл бұрын

"Snow!! You can't blow up your class mates just because they tease you! They have feelings too, you know."

@somato2688 3 жыл бұрын

There was like a 1% chance that Snow could come back and win those fights. It was enough for him. You'll never see a win like this.

@GrandBenja 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah. Free will be kicking himself over that game.

@kevincarrigan2798 3 жыл бұрын

Man this was a solid night of starcraft. I love how it continues to show how important skill is in this game.

@JerseySlayer 3 жыл бұрын

I was so damn mad Snow was going to be out, he's my fav toss to watch. unreal

@kevincarrigan2798 3 жыл бұрын

@@JerseySlayer yeah for real. But the end result made me so much more excited to see snow and flash in the ro8 now

@yeon723 3 жыл бұрын

@@GrandBenja too many damn zealots, why not goon....

@mumblecake251 3 жыл бұрын

Who else has come here just to see Flash play random? :D

@brianschermerhorn7294 3 жыл бұрын

skipping everything else

@mumblecake251 3 жыл бұрын

@Ginnungagap for the challenge. He suffered with a lack of motivation. This had given him a new goal to work towards: winning with random

@mumblecake251 3 жыл бұрын

@Ginnungagap Why would that be? It's much harder to play random at the same level as a single race. Rather than knowing three match-ups inside-out you have to master 9 match ups. There are just not enough hours in the day to become as good as someone who dedicates all their time to one race. No one's ever been suggesting that Flash got an unfair advantage, in the contrary everyone agreed that he was heavily handicapping himself. Yes, he does have the advantage that not knowing what Flash is playing means that the opponent can't use certain build orders as they might get blind countered by the wrong race but beyond that Flash is at a serious disadvantage. Being not allowed to select the race based on opponent and map I agree with which is indeed banned, not being allowed to chose random? I really don't see why that should be a thing.

@mumblecake251 3 жыл бұрын

@Ginnungagap the reason why it's incredibly rare is because you are only going to be 1/3 as good as the competition because you only get 1/3 of practice time with each race. That all information should be known at the start of the game is your personal opinion. Nowhere in the game is this being made a thing. SC also isn't chess. In chess all information is available to both parties at all times. RTS have fog of war in particular to make things hidden and to force constant scouting. I think all in all we can agree to disagree

@tomasgogashvily5350 3 жыл бұрын

@karlhans6678 3 жыл бұрын

2020 and we're still getting epic Starcraft pro games.

@user-wk4np7fh2v 3 жыл бұрын

Artosis asking if something is normal in PvZ and tasteless replying with "oh yea man for sure you can do it" reminds me of steamed hams every time

@american-professor 3 жыл бұрын

idk what it is, but I certainly heard that phrase somewhere. In a movie or something. One dude comes up with a crazy idea, and the other guy is like "oh yeah, you can do that". And then the first guy keeps getting hyped up and coming up with more unrealistic ideas and the second guy "certainly, you can do that". Damn, I can't remember where it is from.

@johnhunt5089 3 жыл бұрын

@@american-professor it's a bit from the simpsons. skinner/chalmers steamed hams

@obstinatejack 3 жыл бұрын

I watched the game yesterday, and I just now understood how snow was able to come out with so many more archons in the last game. Snow took the extra gas in the base while Free seemingly forgot to, and that’s why even though Free always seemed to have a better economy, his unit composition just wasn’t as good. All those zealots in the big maxed battle got owned by those extra archons from Snow’s side. Really epic battle

@T0pel 3 жыл бұрын

Best day of all ASLs! I was so excited about Flash and the last PvP was out of this world.

@Daren_PNW 3 жыл бұрын

At this point, I don't mind if Flash is simply able to just continue providing us entertaining games, regardless of wins/losses.

@Pinnucle 3 жыл бұрын

Free’s face after the scout was worth tuning in alone! Awesome games today

@taylorjensen2787 Ай бұрын

Dude. How Flash did Snow like that with his own race has to be the greatest ASL moment of all time...

@Ryu-hy8bt 3 жыл бұрын

Who else is just vibing to the intro music lol

@JohanIsraelsson 3 жыл бұрын

I love this game so much. Thank you to all involved in the ASL.

@jackal327 3 жыл бұрын

That last game showed why SC1 is so much better to watch then SC2. That type of game (with the turn arounds) would be impossible to have in sc2 due to the mechanics of each game.

@MondSemmel 3 жыл бұрын

It was a great game, but I do think there's ample potential for turnarounds in SC2, as well. In particular, often one player does crippling economic damage but goes down in army supply, which gives their opponent a timing window to win with their army advantage before they get buried due to the resource advantage. I do agree that the fights are often much more watchable and comprehensible in SC1, though.

@panner11 3 жыл бұрын

@@MondSemmel There are also disruptors which are pretty much pseudo-reavers that do turn around games quite dramatically when the money shots land.

@jackadam9348 3 жыл бұрын

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ba6brdRlxK3UaIk.html game one, 40 minutes back and forth. I was in the camp of broodwar> sc2, but it's different now. I would say both of them are distinct depends on what you are looking for.

@TeamWnKaTchO 3 жыл бұрын

totally agree with your statement. And SC2 players do not show much emotion these days especially when they play zerg and they know they've already won the tournament before it even starts.

@SCDJMU 3 жыл бұрын

its simply a superior game in every way

@Bleak13 3 жыл бұрын

Feel for Free, great to see him getting back in form.

@bakaraymoo7389 3 жыл бұрын

How is brood war actually getting better? These games are fucking great. I used to skip certain matchups but not the last few years. Thanks everyone at afreeca!

@olivierslupik9353 3 жыл бұрын

Waking up at 6oclock after sleeping only 5 hours, grab my cellphone, slowing waking up with the voices of Tastosis and watching Flash, open my window, start my coffee, strong way to start my day! When he picked protoss vs snow first game I was like oh nooo.....then omg Snow not seeing his hidden expos. Next game : NOT PROTOSS AGAIN... then what a comeback. My favorite player of all time

@kevincarrigan2798 3 жыл бұрын

Lmao i did almost the same thing. I'm in Nevada so I hit the bed at 9pm to wake up at 230am. Totally fckin worth it. The games kept getting better and better

@olivierslupik9353 3 жыл бұрын

@@kevincarrigan2798 2:30 am?! Thats epic man! I'm in Québec :)

@abstractdaddy1384 3 жыл бұрын

Loving ASL as usual. Thanks Afreeca!

@goldrobber 3 жыл бұрын

StarCraft is the best esport ever. You just can’t beat the excitement in these games

@saintsintosea 3 жыл бұрын

Last two groups have been incredible, can't wait for group D, thanks AfreecaTV!

@sursurrus 3 жыл бұрын

***SPOILER**** Flash's face after the failed first attack looked like he knew he'd lost. I have even more respect for him (if that's possible) for plugging away for the win. Casters IMO underestimate Flash's extreme amount of experience and knowledge of the game, even if his P and Z micro may be behind the best players in the world who play those races. He's the GOAT because he understands the game best, and that skill translates to any race he plays. Considering he SCV blocked Rain's goons to beat him in a previous ASL, I think he understands how goons move and path just as well as any Protoss out there. I think Flash vs Snow might be Flash's greatest series of all time...akin to winning a duel while fighting left-handed

@estel5335 3 жыл бұрын

Man! Those Storms of Snow in the 2nd game...one could say they were 'Snowstorms'.

@IIIApEXoFZiLcHxIII 3 жыл бұрын

Ron one “could” but... 😂

@dal1371 3 жыл бұрын

WTF Game 2 that Flash won vs Snow.. Just INSANE! Instant classic

@edellemicae08 3 жыл бұрын

Snow; best pvp on the world Flash; hold on!

@naczelnypsycholog6296 3 жыл бұрын

those casters usually overhyped players - and you see them later getting rekt - bisu, light today hero

@utarian7 3 жыл бұрын

Flash gambled first game and lucked out. Second game Snow fucked up by late 3rd cannon, and then goon positioning. Credit to Flash still for good control. I think Snow showed the most strength and resolve to be able to come back after those demoralising losses to flash, especially in the last game. Snow's last game should explain why Flash hinged winning vs Snow on a gamble as opposed to going toe to toe.

@utarian7 3 жыл бұрын

@@naczelnypsycholog6296 LOL those three players are top tier. Not overhyped. Anything can happen in ASL.

@CanariasCanariass 3 жыл бұрын

@@naczelnypsycholog6296 I agree, they tend to overhype Snow tbh. He played really good but Free fucked up, his unit composition was horrible. 80% zealots, wtf.

@Aaezil 3 жыл бұрын

@@naczelnypsycholog6296 You can be among the best in the world at a race and still drop a game or two, doesn't mean its bad casters

@fredhurst2528 3 жыл бұрын

Fell asleep after winners match, then watched that fantastic finale just now, that last game was epic.

@repHAWAIIxJPN 3 жыл бұрын

Lol same , was like alright Flash moves on then knocked out

@odinian6244 5 ай бұрын

UNBELIEVABLE GAMES! The final game I felt like Free was going to win for 25 minutes, then back and forth the last 5... What a jaw-dropping wrestle! 🤯🤯🤯

@renatorios7581 3 жыл бұрын

Gracias ASL. Estuvo BRUTAL!!!

@radiancesucks 3 жыл бұрын

I want to cry over how beautiful this game is

@neodrone1 3 жыл бұрын

The patience you need to remain in a game like (snow vs free game 3) that and not gg.... unbelievable!

@brictit 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Tasteless for translating.

@edellemicae08 3 жыл бұрын

Free facial reaction when he scout it was Terran 😄

@Jankofs 3 жыл бұрын

Great job and thanks, Flash is crazy insane

@bvang321 2 жыл бұрын

There were so many epic games this series… I’m speechless!

@user-qh1xv8te4w 3 жыл бұрын

Snow has +25 scarab damage upgaded in last game. Wow.

@sir0herrbatka 3 жыл бұрын

It is actually a pretty good upgrade in PvP but usually PSI storm makes reavers obsolete before you can get your investment back.

@obstinatejack 3 жыл бұрын

I think it’s the fact that Free seemed to forget getting his second gas in main that’s why he had less archons and that’s how he lost the maxed battle though

@7thquark309 3 жыл бұрын

That upgrade paid dividends for him. Probably more than shuttle speed would have, but still I don't see why not get both upgrades when you rely so heavily on reavers.

@sir0herrbatka 3 жыл бұрын

@@7thquark309 Large numbers of HT will make shuttle/reaver combo obsolete and therefore you may not get the benefits of this upgrade at all. This match storm was late and not it in the huge number though so snow made a good call.

@nHautamaki 3 жыл бұрын

ASL owes me about 7 new fingernails, straight up chewed em clean off during this day of games holy crap

@Str4vv 3 жыл бұрын

Those games were crazy good. What a day of Starcraft :)

@HappySpeedling 3 жыл бұрын

long have we waited

@just.f.around5897 3 жыл бұрын

these games are amazing!

@empty5013 3 жыл бұрын

god flash playing random is the most hype thing its been so long since i've been excited to see matches, this literally changes everything and i love it

@felixulfur4266 3 жыл бұрын

Good tv right here.

@7thquark309 3 жыл бұрын

When is the last time you saw Flash raising his arms for advancing in ro8 ? Pepperidge Farm remembers!

@OpiatesAndTits 3 жыл бұрын

It’s why he switched to random. To challenge himself and this isn’t easy for him. He gets that exhilaration back again and can prove himself. TBH it should be inspirational to anyone to see someone so good find new ways to challenge himself

@youtubewatcher5500 3 жыл бұрын

In the last game 4:04:28 Free had 195 supply and Snow had 154 supply. 15 seconds later 4:04:43 Free had 111 supply and Snow had 120 supply. Free lost 84 supply Snow lost 34 (maybe 2 or 4 more because it seems he used some minerals around the end of this battle). This is because Free army was mostly zealots and the problem with zealots is that they are bad against every unit in the game with equal supply when in big numbers ( I experimented with 2 groups of zealots vs every type of terran units at the same supply and zealots lost to every type of unit - they lose to marines , ghost, goliath ect). Same is vs protoss and I would say zerg too. The zealots lose to literaly everithing in the game that can attack them except workers. The use for zealots should be for scecific purpose or timing attacks with tempo(when they are ahead in upgrade and the opponent has not reached next tech) and never as main body of army.

@Appletank8 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah you only need a small group to tank a few shots. You definitely need a lot of other units to shoot over their heads, otherwise Archon Reaver will just splash them to oblivion.

@LachimusPrime 3 жыл бұрын

What a great intro song and look!

@imma5269 3 жыл бұрын

Spoiler: I didn’t actually think snow was too far ahead in game 2 against FlaSh even after he defended the initial goon/reaver pressure. He lost so many probes and had so much econ disruption from fighting with his probes that his 2 base economy never fully kicked in. Flash maintained a pretty solid army supply advantage after the initial skirmishes. Sure if snow was positioned properly he would have been much more likely to withstand the attack, but it was still far from guaranteed. Flash had a ton of goons

@CanariasCanariass 3 жыл бұрын

I agree with you. I felt the same. Many probes were killed and Flash had superior army size.

@Sanelicv 3 жыл бұрын

Same here. He lost way too many probes. That second Nexus didn't pay off at all. I've seen 12 Nexus in PvP but after that you make gates at 12 and 14 and pressure with 5 zealots so he can't freely transition to dragoons. He chose to make cannons so Flash could transition to w/e.

@kevincarrigan2798 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I feel ya on that. But I think they also try and talk from the perspective of the player during the game sometimes. As in, the fact flash could calculate it and act on it is insane as people like me would assume I'm fcked and do some stupid move.

@ShjadeNexayre 3 жыл бұрын

That last push from Flash started with 12 dragoons and 2 reavers vs 10 dragoons and a zealot back home, plus cannons - pretty even except for the reavers tipping the balance. There's definitely room for Snow to hold that if he has different positioning on his dragoons. Far from guaranteed, but he could've done better than getting split off from his reinforcement line and subsequently eating scarabs directly in the face with a whole cluster of dragoons. Frankly I think Snow got a little overconfident after holding off the initial push and wrecking Flash's first two reavers so fast, assumed he'd be fine, got punished for taking an exposed position.

@detrockcity3 3 жыл бұрын

@@ShjadeNexayre right. And as often as we see the momentum completely reverse in PvP after one engagement, no reason Snow couldn't have recovered in that game too with better positioning.

@BLooDCoMPleX 3 жыл бұрын

Jesus christ, that last game was the best of that matchup I've ever seen.

@abadok23 3 жыл бұрын

Flash playing random in ASL - well time for a 4:20:00 long video... Blaze it

@CH-fy2yb 3 жыл бұрын

HE IS LEGEND

@disafear3674 3 жыл бұрын

This is my first time watching Tastosis cast SC1 as I usually watch SC2. In SC2, I reckon Artosis is more knowledgeable and Tasteless the funny one but in SC1, I see how knowledgeable Tasteless is

@zulucharlie9361 3 жыл бұрын

In general, Artosis is the much more knowledgeable one in both games. However, Tasteless plays Protoss, and here we've seen a lot of PvP's, where his knowledge shines through more. I don't want to take anything away from Tasteless, I love them both, but Artosis has much more in-depth knowledge.

@alexanderbolkovoy241 3 жыл бұрын

ASL really hits totally new level this season!

@sursurrus 3 жыл бұрын

Around 1:07:00: Maybe snow getting +2 ground armor has to do with mutas? Reduce the splash from glaives along with the hydra DPS?

@myselfremade 3 жыл бұрын

I think so too. Plus armor upgrades help templar, attack doesn't

@faritop 3 жыл бұрын

He gets the armor because he knows the DPS will come of the storms, so attack upgrades not worth it. He needs sustain on the ground for psi storms to do the work. It's not about mutas, but hydras.

@sir0herrbatka 3 жыл бұрын

Well, I see that strategic thinking can carry Flash to victory. He still has his decision-making in the arsenal and it is his main asset right now.

@zzzKhazarzzz 3 жыл бұрын

**SPOILER*** In the fight at 3:49:33 snow did beat free with 9 goons and 2 reavers with a shuttle while free had 14 goons and 2 reavers with a shuttle . Simply incredible!

@mandarci89 3 жыл бұрын

I play SC2 but this was a lot of fun to watch! wanna give it a try!

@AlexanderEddy 3 жыл бұрын

Just in case it wasn't already 100 percent settled, this proves it: Flash is the greatest Brood War player ever.

@versaleyang 3 жыл бұрын

Jesus, one scarab shot turned the whole game around, what a crazy last game.

@azorthegreat2112 3 жыл бұрын

Not 1 SEVRAL!!

@MoonyD911 3 жыл бұрын

That last PvP has to be one of the best games of all time. I have no idea how the winner came back from behind to win it. Also I have no idea why the loser didn't take their free 3rd gas.

@carlospablovillcalopez2155 3 жыл бұрын

Ese flash es un Dios, vamos carajo flash dale crack

@madkvideo 3 жыл бұрын

Kudos to Sn0w, god damn man... no words

@alexdougal8968 3 жыл бұрын

4hr20min video, exactly. Dank

@Hatchumosc1 3 жыл бұрын

Are they wearing the exactly same tie, or is it very slightly different?

@ltsmx 3 жыл бұрын

can anyone help me with the name of the first song? Shazzam can't recognise it :( googling lyrics don't bring anything up either!

@sinfonia11 3 жыл бұрын

My gf does a good job humoring me when I watch and talk about Broodwar. She ACTUALLY stopped in to watch Flash play random and she was just as jacked as I was

@IIIApEXoFZiLcHxIII 3 жыл бұрын

Sean-Alex Larrabee girlfriend? Sounds to me like you need to marry that girl ;)

@yerkocastillo3253 3 жыл бұрын

Poor Free, he was very nervous on last match :c

@basilman121 2 жыл бұрын

Just realized this says one year ago and not one day ago, but my God, what epic flash games

@NikolaiHT 3 жыл бұрын

holy crap. Really good games here.

@3rdworldvictimyouvebeenlie817 3 жыл бұрын

Those matches man, talk about action!

@dbok 3 жыл бұрын

Commenters and flash both expressed that their surprise at the low unit count. There were two supply blocks blue Protoss ran into right as flash was waiting for the double reavers

@haushkiy 3 жыл бұрын

it's painful to see so many zealots of Free died because of a single scarab at 4:04:35, not to mention they are so badly friendly fired by his own psi storms a few seconds earlier

@JerseySlayer 3 жыл бұрын

If you're watching this right now, *_you'd better watch until the end._*

@thonyramos7525 3 жыл бұрын

FLASH ERES EL AMOR DE MI VIDAAAAAAAAAAAAA TE AMOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

@Cyberpansy 3 жыл бұрын

WHAT IS HAPPENING Incredible games. 🙌

@GersonRivera21 3 жыл бұрын

Where can i find one of those ASL jackets!!??

@Illuvatar2k 3 жыл бұрын

great games

@Khaldryn 3 жыл бұрын

So glad to see Snow get out of the group...awesome final match there!

@anicola2 3 жыл бұрын

Dat PvP... unbelievable!!!

@loneranger707 3 жыл бұрын

is this the north Korean boy band tournament??

@thomasfagerli2338 3 жыл бұрын

Flash winning this ASL will be a huge achievement, bigger than the moon landing!

@NumberOneVillain 3 жыл бұрын

Flash really is the best Brood War player of all time and he's about to prove it.

@AleksandarProkopec 3 жыл бұрын

I can't believe that Snow came back in the last game. 3 times in a row.

@havior6617 3 жыл бұрын

great games, what an amazing group, and the video is exactly 420 long

@berest9154 3 жыл бұрын

what was the name of the song at 7:12 ?

@IIIApEXoFZiLcHxIII 3 жыл бұрын

4:20 video length, in honor of flash being baked out of his mind while declaring he was going random this season 😂

@michaelrexrode5287 3 жыл бұрын

Anyone know if we can buy ASL merch anywhere? Like their jackets etc? Or even GSL merch lol

@ghtjdrla 3 жыл бұрын

shop.afreecatv.com/ you can buy asl jackets in here, but seems like tricky cause they accept only korean card and even shipping only korea. and for now they dont sell gsl merch m.en.thesuperplay.com/ they ship to overseas but now they dont have them in stock

@michaelrexrode5287 3 жыл бұрын

ghtjdrla wow thank you so much! That is tricky but it gives me hope!

@j0295 3 жыл бұрын

FLASH ES EL PORONGA!!!!!!!!!! Saludos desde Paraná Argentina

@13loodySword 3 жыл бұрын

Dude Flash is so sick

@connordavis4766 3 жыл бұрын

Flash's dragoon micro is filthy.

@xeryues 3 жыл бұрын

awesome games! heartbroken for free. happy for snow. weird feelings

@antonioangeloviii4748 3 жыл бұрын

snow. while an awesome player. struggled to get through. though that may be due to stronger opponents. queen and larva breezed through the cans.

@Hatchumosc1 3 жыл бұрын

Free had way too many zealots against practically mass archon with reaver.... Free NEVER took that extra gas in his main even after losing his fourth. Very strange way to lose imo...

@abstractdaddy1384 3 жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same thing. Watching those battles over and over again, I can't help but wonder if it wasn't actually Snow's micro that really made the difference, but just the unit compositions of the 2 armies. Free had too many zealots, period. They were just melted by splash damage.

@Hatchumosc1 3 жыл бұрын

@@abstractdaddy1384 Ya, since Snow was down a second gas he took the one in his main, but Free didn't.