AG600 Kunlong - New Chinese military capability in 2025?

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Strategy & Analysis Centre

Strategy & Analysis Centre

2 ай бұрын

The AG600 Kunlong is a large amphibious aircraft designed primarily for fire fighting and Search & Rescue. What else might it be used for?
Sources:
AVIC Website - Chinese language version
China internet: www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/20240...
Images:
Sunderland - care of RAF Hendon
DHC-515 - Maarten Visser via Wikimedia commons
US-2 - Japan Ministry of Defence
"Kunlong" - huaban.com/pins/2902178088

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@Strategy_Analysis
@Strategy_Analysis 2 ай бұрын
Note: A "Kunlong" refers to a combination of 2 mythical Chinese creatures. The "Kun", a large sea creature that could morph into a flying creature, and the "Long", a dragon. This is not an official image and is not used by AVIC. I have used it here for representational purposes.
@seanchang1202
@seanchang1202 2 ай бұрын
It takes the meaning of “上天爲鯤鵬 入海爲蛟龍” , thus 鯤龍 (Kunlong).
@Strategy_Analysis
@Strategy_Analysis 2 ай бұрын
@@seanchang1202 Thank you. I have heard of 鯤鵬 before.
@douginorlando6260
@douginorlando6260 Ай бұрын
I expect it to quickly deploy an array of. Drone subs in an area where a Submarine was detected. One hour after the sub was detected, 10 Ag600 seaplanes land in an arc 100 miles away. Each Ag600 releases a drone sub designed to detect and destroy a sub (or a surface ship a week later). When the mission is over, the AG600 seaplanes will retrieve the drone subs.
@malcolmlewis5860
@malcolmlewis5860 2 ай бұрын
Seaplanes will be big in the next decade as focus on Pacific Islands increases for force insertion and resupply.
@corvanphoenix
@corvanphoenix 2 ай бұрын
Love those Ritchie Benaud 22's 🤣
@Strategy_Analysis
@Strategy_Analysis 2 ай бұрын
I didn't even do it consciously. Just slipped out.
@corvanphoenix
@corvanphoenix 2 ай бұрын
@Strategy_Analysis It's not just this vid! I hope you don't stop now I've pointed out out 🤣
@tonyswan6834
@tonyswan6834 2 ай бұрын
Ive called him out before for the Benaud lol
@Grampagreybeard
@Grampagreybeard 2 ай бұрын
Any seaplane that carries tons of water can be fitted with a fuel bladder to resupply Ships or Submarines.
@douginorlando6260
@douginorlando6260 Ай бұрын
And replenish other consumables (food). It could even quick charge a drone sub
@whya2ndaccount
@whya2ndaccount 2 ай бұрын
You'll need a bone jacket at this rate. Richie is back at the MCG! Given the Chinese Coast Guard is effectively a branch of the PLAN, I guess they now have a long range ISR / troop / SF insertion platform.
@Strategy_Analysis
@Strategy_Analysis 2 ай бұрын
Thanks. Although the CCG works very closely with the PLAN, the CCG is actually part of the People's Armed Police (PAP), a separate service directly responsible to the CMC.
@corvanphoenix
@corvanphoenix 2 ай бұрын
I think Australia could greatly value from aircraft like these, but the cost would be prohibitive.
@Strategy_Analysis
@Strategy_Analysis 2 ай бұрын
Australia does need fire fighting aircraft to combat the severe bush fires that occur, but I don't see Australia acquiring the AG600, no matter the cost or capability.
@corvanphoenix
@corvanphoenix 2 ай бұрын
@Strategy_Analysis The Japanese aircraft was what I had in mind, since it's got a great firefighting capacity. However I feel for that role, purpose built C-130's & 737's are a better option.
@charlesyeo5528
@charlesyeo5528 2 ай бұрын
Japanese seaplanes are very good
@anguswagstaff6437
@anguswagstaff6437 2 ай бұрын
The PBY Catalina is my favourite plane. I find seaplanes serve a beautiful function just that most are quite ugly (some noteable exceptions). I cannot help wondering about their utility, or lack thereof, in a future pacific conflict.
@Strategy_Analysis
@Strategy_Analysis 2 ай бұрын
The Catalina was a ever effective seaplane.
@alexlanning712
@alexlanning712 2 ай бұрын
I'm thinking the Spitfire evolved from the Schneider Trophy
@Strategy_Analysis
@Strategy_Analysis 2 ай бұрын
That's my vague recollection.
@jackmiller8851
@jackmiller8851 2 ай бұрын
as far as planes go, it really does look like a dragon.
@JIMDEZWAV
@JIMDEZWAV 2 ай бұрын
👌👌
@aungaisum8654
@aungaisum8654 Ай бұрын
Very useful indeed.
@Strategy_Analysis
@Strategy_Analysis Ай бұрын
Thank you.
@kiwiruna9077
@kiwiruna9077 2 ай бұрын
a mavelous effort.
@alexlanning712
@alexlanning712 2 ай бұрын
If its tried and true, why not?
@ALPHA.141
@ALPHA.141 2 ай бұрын
Brother make a vedio about Chinese airforce vs us airforce 2024 edition
@corvanphoenix
@corvanphoenix 2 ай бұрын
It's not that kind of channel mate.
@alexlanning712
@alexlanning712 2 ай бұрын
I think the Chinese govt, may have issues with its seaplane being used in a military role, but it would have great range for marine surveillance
@Strategy_Analysis
@Strategy_Analysis 2 ай бұрын
Yes, In a direct military sense I think it more likely used for maritime patrol and reconnaissance.
@mylesdobinson1534
@mylesdobinson1534 2 ай бұрын
Chinese Coast Guard is a branch of the military.
@corvanphoenix
@corvanphoenix 2 ай бұрын
China has an official dual use policy for civilian & military technology. So I'd be surprised if they had any particular qualms about this aircraft, should their armed forces decide they want some.
@Strategy_Analysis
@Strategy_Analysis 2 ай бұрын
@@mylesdobinson1534 The CCG is part of the PAP, which is separate to the PLA, but under direct control of the CMC.
@user-xq8qx6bg2j
@user-xq8qx6bg2j Ай бұрын
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@tonysu8860
@tonysu8860 2 ай бұрын
If land based aircraft are available to perform the same missions, I can't see any purpose for a seaplane which has to perform much poorly due the extra weight due to hull/fuselage support and the extra drag due to external pontoons. The fuselage shape may also be less optimally streamlined for its water mode.
@Strategy_Analysis
@Strategy_Analysis 2 ай бұрын
Agree. That was the essence of the summary. Why would the PLA devote resources to an ASW version?
@YSKWatch
@YSKWatch Ай бұрын
​@@Strategy_Analysis I believe there's always export possibilities, whenever chinese made anything, they'll have E (export) variant. with few exceptions of course (j20).
@josephguo6256
@josephguo6256 Ай бұрын
China owns 3 million Km territorial seas and must have numbers of large amphibious aircrafts for coverages.
@ALPHA.141
@ALPHA.141 2 ай бұрын
Bro make a vedio about Chinese airforce vs us airforce 2024 edition
@user-fe5un8ku3j
@user-fe5un8ku3j Ай бұрын
Basically it’s down to who run out of fighters first. As of 2024 it’s definitely China. But when you put real world scenarios into consideration, it’s really depends if the US can put enough aircraft near China, which turns in to a geopolitical and logistical problem. On the capabilities of the 2 air forces themselves. The newest planes are on par with each other as far as technology goes(F-22 and J-20, F-35 and J-35, F-15ex and newest batch of J-16, F-16V and J-10c, F-18e and J-15b, and a bunch of other jets like f-16c f-15c/d and j-11a j-11b). But when you throw in tactics, personnel training, doctrines, logistics, industrial output, etc… it becomes impossible to tell.
@user-fe5un8ku3j
@user-fe5un8ku3j Ай бұрын
But the Chinese recently stated they have entered the “doorstep” of a strategic Air Force. And the US Air Force is long been known for being a example of well established strategic Air Force. So China still has a lot catch up to do in the areas of heavy transport aircraft, military bases, tankers and other support aircrafts. The recent Y-20 and YY-20 are decent, but the scale of the support and logistical fleet is nowhere near on the same level of the US. For that we probably have to wait until 2045-2049, so at least another 20 years of catching up for the Chinese.
@khaledselim8130
@khaledselim8130 Ай бұрын
it's literally for civilian efforts!!! for Civil Defense against wildfires!!! for China & slso for export abroad how is that a " military capability"??!!
@stewartsas
@stewartsas Ай бұрын
I think Japan needs to crack down on security for their aviation industry... The Chinese AG600 looks awfully similar to the Japanese US-2...
@justsomedude6666
@justsomedude6666 Ай бұрын
Nah :3
@tpt1793
@tpt1793 2 ай бұрын
Ha! Ha! Another copycat of JMSDF US-2
@LordKarma101
@LordKarma101 Ай бұрын
Don't be dumb!!! How many ways can you design a seaplane without it looking similar to another seaplane?? You expect them to design a seaplane that will look like an octopus so that you can't be accused of being a copycat???
@aungaisum8654
@aungaisum8654 Ай бұрын
The japs one is smaller.
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