Ahmed Deedat Exposes Tricks Used By Christians - REACTION

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@danyalsyed3714
@danyalsyed3714 2 жыл бұрын
Ahmed Deedat is making the point that the Bible is still being changed by Christian’s to fit their narrative. Allah (swt) mentioned the fact that they change the scripture with their hands in the holy Quran.
@joyphillips1821
@joyphillips1821 2 жыл бұрын
Actually Deedat died never knowing that we keep finding new manuscripts that were not available to us until now...we only had access to the ones in 1611 for the King James Version . Don't worry... each is well documented and all those manuscripts confirm the bible teachings so that not a single area is adversely affected.
@danyalsyed3714
@danyalsyed3714 2 жыл бұрын
@@joyphillips1821 well documented! What was the last name of John, Luke, Mark, and Mathew? Who were these folks?
@justiceempire1170
@justiceempire1170 2 жыл бұрын
How did you say that they change their scriptures? All of their writings are authentic which coincide to the time that they wrote it though they were written by scribes for reproduction.
@danyalsyed3714
@danyalsyed3714 2 жыл бұрын
@@justiceempire1170 It’s a fact. Are you not familiar with Council of Nicaea? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p5aHht2i07DegqM.html
@lagabharoune3950
@lagabharoune3950 2 жыл бұрын
@@joyphillips1821 first tell me who is luke jhon mathiew and all thr boys give me their details biography information about them then give me a a tree of transmission a reliable one that these words come from jesus if you come up with only one i’ll leave islam to Christianity witch you’ll never cuz these folks are totally not known.
@cfrb
@cfrb 2 жыл бұрын
The main point was - did jesus complete his mission before the apparent crucifixion, or was it completed after the crufixion. If he completed his mission on earth before the crucifixion, as John 17:4, it means crucifixion is not required for salvation. this demolishes the whole christine doctrine of sacrificial atonement. So yes, this is a major issue, that can destroy present day christianity. I hope this helps.
@johnpakard6386
@johnpakard6386 2 жыл бұрын
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Just pick up the bible you're forbidden to read on your smart phone and read the part where He said this while hanging on the cross at the point of death. Oh gosh, that would make your comment obsolete since it is a pathetic argument to begin with.
@MH-uh7vq
@MH-uh7vq 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnpakard6386 I think you missed the entire point of the video. You can't have Jesus say his work is finished before he's crucified and after he's crucified. The writers figured this out a few centuries later and changed the wording as highlighted in the video.
@johnpakard6386
@johnpakard6386 2 жыл бұрын
@@MH-uh7vq Not in the least. First of all, Ahmed Deedat not only twists the word of God, but all his information is hearsay. Jesus prayed to the Father just before He is arrested, and asks, "Let me finish the work you have sent me to do..." When He was on the cross He says, "It is finished." Then he dies for 3 days before being resurrected. Unless Deedat is holding irrefutable truth in his hands, I never believe a single lie he utters, and he only lies when he opens his mouth. As for questioning the crucifixion, if muslims don't believe in the resurrection, then by your claims of the old law being in place, why are you not sacrificing in the manner which was proscribed to Moses? Hypocrite much?
@MH-uh7vq
@MH-uh7vq 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnpakard6386 my friend, you literally changed the words of the bible. John 17:4 doesn't say "let me finish the work you sent me to do". It says "I have brought you glory by finishing the work you gave me to do". How dare you call Ahmed Deedat a liar while you're over hear changing scripture to fitbyour argument. Hypocrite much?
@johnpakard6386
@johnpakard6386 2 жыл бұрын
@@MH-uh7vq You are as ignorant as Deedat and muhammad the imposter prophet. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Thanks for the laugh, and go read the whole bible instead of being a typical muslim drone who talks horse shit by picking and choosing tiny snippets of the bible. You all think it's important to have word for word the precise word and meaning of each sentence because you want to look smart. You can't even get the original koran let alone know which of the 40 plus versions of it is the closest, and you want to dither over pedantics in wording? It doesn't matter whether you go by my version or the "bible's version", IT MEANS THE EXACT SAME THING. But notice in the scripture you refer to that Jesus says, "...And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you BEFORE THE WORLD BEGUN."?????? Dawah muslims are the most ignorant pigs.
@rhiophiri6857
@rhiophiri6857 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much mr Leroy Kenton, bring to the world more videos of this nature please, thank you Islam religion, thank you prophet Muhammad swt, thank you Allah swt for giving us Islam
@brianlakeith2606
@brianlakeith2606 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your non biased review of this. Thank you!
@Aziz.phenomenal
@Aziz.phenomenal 2 жыл бұрын
It blows my mind to see that Christian's don't believe in what Jesus is saying in bible, they are adamant into backing up the teachings of Church over the teachings of Jesus.
@michalrusin6503
@michalrusin6503 2 жыл бұрын
And what is Jesus saying really in the Bible ? the core of his teaching?
@Soup19922
@Soup19922 2 жыл бұрын
Jesus taught that he would die and rise again. It blows my mind to see that Muslims don't believe in what Jesus is saying in bible, they are adamant into backing up the teachings of Mohammad over the teachings of Jesus.
@michalrusin6503
@michalrusin6503 2 жыл бұрын
@@Soup19922 I mean what he taught about human consciousness ?
@niedoms2214
@niedoms2214 2 жыл бұрын
@@Soup19922 doesn't make any sense since Mohammad came after Jesus.
@denisharris2889
@denisharris2889 2 жыл бұрын
Im a Christian. Do you really mean what you're saying. Do you actually know the teachings of JESUS according to Bible?
@amerkasah2970
@amerkasah2970 2 жыл бұрын
that why we can't change word from holy book to translate according what we like bcs if we do that the book no longer word of god it be book word of human..
@abdourjawara022
@abdourjawara022 2 жыл бұрын
It makes a lot of difference.. they played and still playing with words, when coping the Bible.
@michalrusin6503
@michalrusin6503 2 жыл бұрын
Every scripture is fake. Products of human superstition and imagination.
@ayaanmk4299
@ayaanmk4299 2 жыл бұрын
@@michalrusin6503 u can talk about bible not quran
@michalrusin6503
@michalrusin6503 2 жыл бұрын
@@ayaanmk4299 both are fairy tales for immature people. Real spirituality doesnt deal with childish subjects like: heaven, hell, miracles, punishment, worship, but it is a journey beyond conditioning and dream of the mind.
@whymad_
@whymad_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@michalrusin6503 you live your life like this ?
@michalrusin6503
@michalrusin6503 2 жыл бұрын
@@whymad_ yes, hard to believe, but I don't believe in trolls, smurfs, allah, devils, poltetgeists. This is stuff for uneducated morons.
@muhammadrahman621
@muhammadrahman621 Жыл бұрын
Quran "Then woe to those who write the Book with their own hands, and then say:”This is from God,” to traffic with it for miserable price!- Woe to them for what their hands do write, and for the gain they make thereby". Surah 2 Verse 79 Changing the meaning for their own interests of the holy books is the old fashion of Jews and Christian's. "I once threw a stone in the hell and it took 70 years to reach the ground" Gabriel.
@dr.zisreligious
@dr.zisreligious 2 жыл бұрын
Mashallah hidayatallah jazakallah khair ❤️👍❤️
@yagamilight6261
@yagamilight6261 2 жыл бұрын
Now that's one of the big problem for the bible and Christianity.They quietly overlooked the discrepancy of the different translations of there book.They think it's all the same but the reality is very different from each versions.You can even read in some version that we are created through Jesus but the other version simply says we are created by God.🤔😵🤦
@joyphillips1821
@joyphillips1821 2 жыл бұрын
Jesus is God...Christians have never seen it any other way. Even in your Quran it says in surah 4: 171 that Jesus == Messenger == Human =His Word ==Allah's Word ==Uncreated =His Spirit---PROCEEDING from Him (from Allah) (Uncreated) Summary: Allah gave his "Word" to Mary and his Spirit. Therefore The child (Jesus) in Mary's womb is Allah's Word and His Spirit. Actually we can read that in our bible: John 1:1 "...In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word WAS GOD... Then in John 1:14 "...The Word BECAME FLESH and made his dwelling among us..." Jesus is called: KALIMATUALLAH and RUHALLAH no other prophet given such name but Jesus, son of Mary.
@azbhatti272
@azbhatti272 2 жыл бұрын
Salami Allah very very sick and mindless man . Jesus Christ our savior Lord
@msmadness1226
@msmadness1226 2 жыл бұрын
1:08 I get his point, and his question is really valid. But that example 😂😂 it is like asking 'oxygen in crucial for living, but is doesn't make us immortal'
@husainibashir4385
@husainibashir4385 Жыл бұрын
If you read two different versions of bible you will understand Ahmad deedat very well, some verses present in one version but absent in another. I recommend that you react to a video (Who is God, Allah, Jesus or Eminem)
@mohammedyasin805
@mohammedyasin805 2 жыл бұрын
Noah Ibrahim suliman Isaac many prohets finished their jobs but one came after another with the same massage Allaha Akber is the greatest
@joyphillips1821
@joyphillips1821 2 жыл бұрын
You noticed how deedat didn't want to address the next verse and said it is something to discuss on Saturday so that he could buy himself some time?
@rickjames9039
@rickjames9039 Жыл бұрын
Did you notice how the Christian guy didn't want to admit that his new international version does not predate the king James version? Then he proceeded to explain the confusion, but failed miserably, and of course Sheikh Ahmed Deedat did answer the question, now you have 2 options, either call the Messiah a liar, or you Christians have corrupted his teachings and taught the world the corrupted version. You can't even identify the authors of the Bible, the whole book contradicts itself, how can one claim that the Bible is from God, yet it contains contradictions?
@Striker_242
@Striker_242 2 жыл бұрын
Does anyone have video link of that great debate?
@sow1827
@sow1827 2 жыл бұрын
Ahmad Deedat only mentioned during his speech that was not the subject of that meeting my friend.. it was the questioner who picked it up and came in to further question Deedat about it.. But that wasn't the topic of that debate..
@joseisaac6279
@joseisaac6279 Жыл бұрын
Modus Operandi of The Great Deceiver DEEDAT is to quote scriptures OUT OF CONTEXT. Notice how in the video DEEDAT ignores the fact that Jesus prophecies His successful completion of the mission entrusted to Him by the Holy God of Truth and twists facts to bring disrepute on the Holy Bible and plant the seed of doubt / confusion / mistrust in the Holy Bible. John 16:32-33 [32]Behold, the hour cometh, yea, is now come, that ye shall be scattered, every man to his own, and shall leave me alone: and yet I am not alone, because the Father is with me. {PROPHECY} [33]These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.{PROPHECY} John 17:1-4 [1]These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee: (GLORIFY THY SON VIA SACRIFICING THY SON SO THAT BY SACRIFICING MYSELF I CAN THEREBY GLORIFY YOU) [2]As thou hast given him (Jesus) power over all flesh (VIA SAID UPCOMING SACRIFICE) , that he should give eternal life (VIA SAID UPCOMING SACRIFICE) to as many as thou (God) hast given him (VIA SAID UPCOMING SACRIFICE). [3]And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent (FOR SAID UPCOMING SACRIFICE AND RESULTANT GLORIFICATION AND CONSEQUENT SALVATION) [4]I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do. (PROPHECY OF UPCOMING SACRIFICE, GLORIFICATION AND SALVATION) or (Like that Christian in the video says, Jesus meant He finished the work entrusted to Him THUS FAR). So the words "IT IS FINISHED" used on the cross is NOT a contradiction to the herein quoted verses. So it is either the announcement of the completion of the task entrusted in its entirety OR the announcement of the completion of the second part of the task entrusted in its entirety. THAT DEEDAT CHARACTER IS SO BUSY FINDING SPECKS IN EYE OF HOLY BIBLE THAT HE DOES NOT SEE THE LOGS IN THE EYE OF THE QURAN.
@abdulazizyalahow3238
@abdulazizyalahow3238 2 жыл бұрын
Haha 😂 it’s like me watching this video & then asking you if you finished or I guess you still editing & you need to check to see if you completed it aight lol 😂
@johnoyeniyi1823
@johnoyeniyi1823 2 жыл бұрын
When Jesus said "It's finished" he means that his life is end simply because he was asking Almighty Allah that why did He forsaken him. And besides he prayed All night to Almighty Allah to save him from being crucified..that shows that Jesus was defined to die for anyone's sins
@master6was9
@master6was9 2 жыл бұрын
Allah swt saved him , Check your Reuter ( sources) 🤣🤣🤣
@shenjamamzingi7950
@shenjamamzingi7950 2 жыл бұрын
💞Sheikh Ahmad Deedat was Amizing💕
@N3M0308
@N3M0308 2 жыл бұрын
Why wouldnt one let other finish speak first
@nastrobreazy3561
@nastrobreazy3561 2 жыл бұрын
Smh, he actually thinks he is reading the words of God All Mighty, StaghfurAllah Alatheem. That was the problem.
@mzakria9001
@mzakria9001 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ahmad Deedaat May Allah bless you
@buukkreider544
@buukkreider544 Жыл бұрын
I agree that this was not really a point worth arguing over.
@Soup19922
@Soup19922 2 жыл бұрын
At the 4:50 point he claims that the KJV is the Bible that is translated to other languages. That is not true at all.
@mankind157
@mankind157 2 жыл бұрын
I'm confused he suppose to give question
@najmaelkiraa3138
@najmaelkiraa3138 2 жыл бұрын
I remember this German missionary he turned up to 4 lectures and was trying to preach during question time then gets caught out trying to deceive people lying what the Bible says adding his own interpretation to the scripture. May Allah bless Sheikh Deedat soul and grant him eternal heaven for all his efforts and the thousands upon thousands who he reverted back to Islam by his own hands this video was in the early 80's and people are still watching them and learning from them.. Jesus said his job was finished before the crucifixion so their was no need for one which goes in line with jesus praying and begging God to save him from the crucifixion in the garden. He wouldn't have begged to be saved if that's what he came to do. Also him crying out my God why have you forsaken me.. A man completing his Misson is not forsaken that's why the new revised bibles have taken that out cause as sheikh Deedat said you can't Finnish the same race or job twice
@moniquealicia9508
@moniquealicia9508 2 жыл бұрын
His job on earth bit not spirital world He did Gods wil if God asked you to be crusified would you not ask God to choose sombody else yet he did you said pbuh but you dont really seems torespect him he was forsaken on that moment for our transgessions he received Gods wrath God bless you
@bruceholbrook5995
@bruceholbrook5995 2 жыл бұрын
This may help to understand "It is Finished". In another verse, Jesus asked his father that "If he be willing to take this cup from him". So when Jesus said: "It is Finished" That he was relieved of his burden, and Jesus was in a place of peace now, and taken up in grace. And the anguish of that moment was taken away.
@sutil5078
@sutil5078 2 жыл бұрын
when we change a text we forget to make other changes, in the baptism scene John the baptist and all heard the heavenly voice saying "this is my son whom I am pleased" hearing this extraordinary voice of God would make anyone know who Jesus was, yet John the baptist years later when in prison sent men to ask who Jesus was, because they knew there were 3 to comes, Jesus, John himself, and Mohammad pbu them all. So they added the heavenly voice in the baptism scene then forget to delete that question of John . The bible has been modified like that and there are multiple example, so a christian has a choice, to follow these anonymous writers who were not eyewitness or follow God first commandment, Moses words " Hear o Israel the lord our God the Lord is one and Jesus repeating the same thing and Quran and Mohammad said the same thing peace be upon them all!! which position is easier to justify in Day of Judgement ? Remember between us and eternity in heaven or hell is our little heart stop beating, that simple.
@michalrusin6503
@michalrusin6503 2 жыл бұрын
Both Quran and Bible are fairy tales. What does it matter if modifed ?
@sutil5078
@sutil5078 2 жыл бұрын
@@michalrusin6503 so what do you think about our lives, how should we make since of it?
@michalrusin6503
@michalrusin6503 2 жыл бұрын
@@sutil5078 quite simply: wake up from the religious nonsense you have been contaminated, dive deeper into the present moment and generate more awareness in life. Only in this way we can break the spell of false mental identity and face life in its purest.
@whymad_
@whymad_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@michalrusin6503 delusional dude
@michalrusin6503
@michalrusin6503 2 жыл бұрын
@@whymad_ exactly, how do we go beyond identification with concepts and remove this delusion from our life ?
@mdzohio
@mdzohio 2 жыл бұрын
Actually that was a very important point because the whole faith of Christianity based on the death of Christ on the cross.
@naimmalik2696
@naimmalik2696 2 жыл бұрын
Can some one tell me the intro music name?
@blerim96gjibegji16
@blerim96gjibegji16 2 жыл бұрын
Why different choice of words in different versions?! If it is finished , leave it finished , if it's not , don't try to deceive by using words with similar meaning.
@johnpakard6386
@johnpakard6386 2 жыл бұрын
Average Joe on the street understands the meaning, but when you get an ignoramus such as Deedat who is confused and confusing to begin with then you start to get doubt. Clearly he doesn't understand that it means the same thing, and that it doesn't matter which version is used. He sees it as a mistranslation because of the lie of the koran being the original Arabic to this day when it has been proven over and over by both Christian and atheist scholars to not be true. He's trying to catch it out. The problem he has is that the meaning of words is more important than the words used. As usual, none of what he says makes sense.
@naathnaath6377
@naathnaath6377 2 жыл бұрын
Christian's believe that a Jew died so Christian's could be saved. How bizarre. Still they follow like sheep.
@shinokudo6961
@shinokudo6961 2 жыл бұрын
in fact what mr.Ahmed deedat is saying is Jesus pbuh is saying in the bible that his work is finished before the crucifixion happened so if his work is finished before the crucifixion that means that discredit all the christian who says jesus came to die on the cross for thier sin, and also make it logical when jesus say "god god why have you forsaken me" because the crucifixion wasn't in his work ( plans). and saying that the second finished is because he mean i'm finished when i persons knows he is going to die he say it's finished the christian uses a bible where they changed the word finished with completed to try to fix the problem because if jesus pbuh finished his work before the crucifixion there is no christianity , and try to include the crucifixion as a part on jesus work on earth and pretend that when jesus says it's finished he means now his work isfinished with the crucifixion. conclusion : the king james version exclude the crucifixion as jesus work while the new international version include it by changing and playing with the words in the bible.
@rdv99
@rdv99 2 жыл бұрын
You know why Deedat was dying for over 10 years? Just lying on bed and can't move at all. He was in deep suffering for long time and Allah allowed it's happened.
@HG-kn3hb
@HG-kn3hb 2 жыл бұрын
Josh McDowell ended AD career.
@luqmankhanN
@luqmankhanN 2 жыл бұрын
Let's try to understand the QUESTION first and then the ANSWER and see what this video is about (Off course my understanding of it). I hope this may help many who got lost watching the video. ************************************************************* ************ Understanding the QUESTION ***************** ************************************************************* The Christian guy question was " WHO IS THE GREATEST?" in the context of: 1. Get Reconciled with GOD 2. How Do I have Eternal Life 3. Takes away the sin of mankind 4. Bring human into unity with GOD @2:38 The guy claiming that "Jesus is the greatest" in the above context of 4 points by giving proof that Jesus said "it is finished" when he was on the cross. The guys said " In other words, He (Jesus) said: I have accomplished the task for which I have come". So the question is: Who Ahmed Deedat consider is the greatest. The guy claimed that Jesus is the greatest because his job was to get crucified to do the 4 points mentioned above. ************************************************************* ************ Understanding the ANSWER ***************** ************************************************************* Ahmed Deedat did not answer to the question "WHO IS THE GREATEST" maybe because it is against the Muslim faith to say one prophet is better/greater than the other. It is a rule to follow the instruction of the later prophet because previous prophet message got corrupted by other people and writers. Ahmed Deedat question's the guy's claim by saying if the job was to get crucified (which in the guy's opinion made Jesus the greatest) and the proof is the words Jesus said "IT IS FINISHED" then why Jesus said the exact same words before (years / months / weeks ago) his crucifixion? If the guy claim that "it if finished" means the job Jesus was given is accomplished then what does he make of the same word Jesus said before. How come A job can be finished twice? 1. Either the job was to get crucified or the job was something else when he said the same word before. 2. Or before crucifixion @10:39 when he (Jesus) said finished, he meant finished or he was deceiving or he was not telling the truth. If "It is finished" defines the job's completion then why considering it only at the time of crucifixion and then claim that Jesus is the greatest. That makes the claim not valid. The guy can not claim that Jesus is the Greatest for something Jesus did not come for. The job was another thing that was finished before. So Ahmed Deedat did not answer the question "Who is the Greatest" but he nullified the claim of the guy that "Jesus is the Greatest" because of the crucifixion as crucifixion was not the job for the 4 points context by the guy (mentioned above). I hope this make sense
@makaikenneth6501
@makaikenneth6501 Жыл бұрын
I want to state the following statements made by Dedaat and they can be shown not to be true thou at that time he misled many to think he was knowledgeable cos access to source information was rare.I am also stating 15 beliefs in Islam which are not in the Quran but hadith only written over 200 years after death of Allahs messenger. These are what Dedaat alleged:They are lies 1.Yeshua was not crucified and never died. In the bible prophecies and gospels and now historians have proved Yeshua died of crucifiction .Some Muslims have accepted now.Earliest muslims like ibn abas,ibn munnabah,ibn ishaq,and others say he died and was raised.Ibn kathir and ibn abas say mutawaffeka means cause to die. 2.Messenger of Allah is mentioned in the gospel and torah 3.Mohammed is a descendant of Ishmail 4.The Bible is corrupted 5.The Holy spirit ,the comforter in Johns gospel is Mohammed 6..Yeshua was sent is Israelites only 7.There is no trinity its false.Polytheism(Allah n quran,a spirit from himself and his word /speech are all eternal 8.Yeshua is not divine 9.Quran is Allahs word perfectly preserved without errors and contradiction 10.Yeshua is not the son of Allah 11.Paul is founder of Christianity The following are not in Quran but Islamic beliefs' no verse in the Quran says use hadiths as indirect speech of Allah.The muslims follow Imam sahih Bukhari as you say christians follow Paul 1.Messenger of Allah is a holy prophet 2.Messenger of Allah is Ismails descendant 3.Messenger performed miracles 4.Messenger went to heaven 5.Muslims circumcise 6.Pray five salaat a day 7.Messengers mother is in hell fire 8.Mecca and madina are holy cities 9.Ismail was to be sacrificed by Abraham 10.Islam means peace 11.Messenger is the greatest prophet 12.the bible is corrupted 13.Yeshua didnt die 14.Messenger of Allah was illiterate(Could not read and write) 15.Hadith is Allahs indirect speech. 16.Adam had two sons called cain and abel,eve is adams wife and sarah Abrahams wife.Where is all this staff in Quran yet you teach people so. 17.In Hajj you kiss black stone cos it cleanses your sins Can you quote verses which are unequivocal and unambiguous that states what is above?
@truejuggyfam00
@truejuggyfam00 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it's simple he bought the message to the appointed people to return to Allah before the day of judgement while he is still mercifully on us.thats what I get.
@SOFIANSHAFIE
@SOFIANSHAFIE 2 жыл бұрын
If I whisper one message to the 2nd person and then he continue to whisper to the following persons until the last person (say no 30). The possibility of the message became distorted (different) is very high. Can you imagine what happen if the first 10 persons could not be detected. This is what happen to the bible. Unlike quran the original in arabic language is still available in the memory of people since day one. It is also well backup with the original copy. This will make reference work more easier, reliable and authentic.
@nasheenjahannasir2976
@nasheenjahannasir2976 2 жыл бұрын
A neutral qustion, if I want to read the bible now which one should I buy? There are so many versions it's difficult for me to know which one is the most authentic one. Can someone refer me to the most original bible?
@makaikenneth6501
@makaikenneth6501 Жыл бұрын
You get it completely wrong..There are over 100 versions of the Quran translation from Arabic to English by different people and organisations .It does not mean it changes ? No. The translators use same book but render certain verses and words differently. Example that in the Quran some people translate ruh qudus as angel gabriel others as pure or holy spirit but the Quran reads ruh qudus.You get two translatios due to two renderigs of the word ruh qudus.Thats what version means .
@nasheenjahannasir2976
@nasheenjahannasir2976 Жыл бұрын
@@makaikenneth6501 I meant the old testament or the new. Because people say they vary. I just want to study the Abrahamic religions and genuinely want to know.
@caravansvisits
@caravansvisits 2 жыл бұрын
John 17:4 Jesus (pbuh): I have finished the work that You gave me. Christian: No. Not yet. Go through crucifixion. John 19:30 Jesus (pbuh): I am finished. Christian: Not yet. Go down to Hades to receive torment for our sins.
@Nasir1969
@Nasir1969 2 жыл бұрын
It's so impossible to lie about the truth.
@Infidelx
@Infidelx 2 жыл бұрын
A lot of these tricks are used by trolls online
@rizall3061
@rizall3061 2 жыл бұрын
There’s a better video over the same point regarding translation and how an unpopular translation disappeared from existence bc of pop demand
@theblackscientist4479
@theblackscientist4479 2 жыл бұрын
In’Shallah🖤🖤I don’t explain my religion to Christian’s because they don’t have understanding
@abdisyahrizal4313
@abdisyahrizal4313 2 жыл бұрын
They dont even understand their own bible. The book says A they undesrtand it as B 😂 by using twisted thinking
@abdisyahrizal4313
@abdisyahrizal4313 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidbarnes3262 dang man, you are so twisted 😂😂
@samueltienko2741
@samueltienko2741 2 жыл бұрын
WAAAAAOOOOOO HE SAID HIS LIFE IS OVER??? A QUESTION DO CHRISTIANS AND MUSLIMS SERVE THE SAME GOD???
@TausifAhmad03
@TausifAhmad03 2 жыл бұрын
Classic Christians they just don't twist just their own book but everyone else's too
@peteodonnell6219
@peteodonnell6219 2 жыл бұрын
Completed and finished means the something. But the Bible does not speculated as to what is finished. I don't understand why it an object of debate.
@calmnessandsatisfaction658
@calmnessandsatisfaction658 2 жыл бұрын
Bro why ain't you accept islam when u know it's the truth
@nevermore1974.
@nevermore1974. 2 жыл бұрын
413 / 5.000 Resultados de tradução the point is, Christians want in every way to make words of objective meaning so dubious that they can give free interpretation when they see fit! if the mission of jesus ended at that moment of the speech, it's because it ended and that's the end of it! Now, to want to say that Jesus finished his work for the second time because he was on the cross, is very opportunism for those who wrote, and for those who read.
@eclipse221077
@eclipse221077 2 жыл бұрын
Your assumption? Hmm. Let see. If jesus said it already finish the job in january, does he lying when the job is finnish not in ianuary but in october?. He said already done and demand payment in january but the job actually done in october. He repeat the "finish" 2 time. The second finnish is for what?.
@pijesz
@pijesz 2 жыл бұрын
That is one terrible sounding keyboard.
@ujimajame4601
@ujimajame4601 2 жыл бұрын
Ahmad Deedat did not bring up the point, the questioner did. However, the meaning of or context in which Jesus said "It is finished" in St. John 19:30 is CLEAR when you read the whole statement and Ahmad Deedat is right!: "When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, IT IS FINISHED: and HE bowed his head, and GAVE UP THE GHOST." (they are saying his life on Earth came to an end). To claim that he was told by God that his work was not completed and he had more to do is really REACHING on the part of the questioner, especially since nothing significant took place between the time he allegedly said "It is finished" the first time and the second time! I personally think the questioner was just being difficult and understand you being confused!
@TheSkunkaddict
@TheSkunkaddict 2 жыл бұрын
in john 17 when jesus says hes finished the works which god gave him.....bearing in mind he said that before the crucification....it then goes totally contrary to the christian belief that Jesus's main mission was to die on the cross. if he finished the works god gave him at that point already then it means jesus dying on the cross meant nothing and that that wasnt what god sent him to do.
@hajihajihaji69
@hajihajihaji69 2 жыл бұрын
👊🏿🤲🏿
@sam-ln9lm
@sam-ln9lm 2 жыл бұрын
When a man marry a woman,his life is complete BUT if something goes wrong with marriage then he is FINISHED
@muzamilali8640
@muzamilali8640 2 жыл бұрын
Ahmed Deedaat was right. Christians should decided the status of Jesus. In Islam , Hesus is a prophet of God(Allah in Arabic) but christians believe Jesus as sin of God and then takes a U Turn Jesus is God. Jesus is seen worshipping One God in temples(synogouges). If was really God , then to whom most mighty he is worshipping? So many times Jesus said"I do not say anything if my own but the Father who has sent me". I do miracles with the help (permission , assistance of God). So it's very clear Jesus believes , practices and worship only one God. Christians and church are totally confused. May God guide them. Amen.
@moniquealicia9508
@moniquealicia9508 2 жыл бұрын
Son of God is more then a prophet who is confused
@denisharris2889
@denisharris2889 2 жыл бұрын
I strongly disagree with You. JESUS is God. The God is inside that flesh we called JESUS. And Because of him took a flesh, he was called the Son of God and relation to the Father in grace and glory. Because it is the Spirit of the Living GOD that works through Him.
@bithiahamariah9139
@bithiahamariah9139 Жыл бұрын
The TWO "It is finished".... 1. *17: 4 I have glorified You on earth by accomplishing the work You gave Me to do.* THAT night to the end of Chapter 17 - Jesus finished the work he was called to do - *Preach the Gospel, raise up disciples to carry his message and reveal to them who God is and that he was indeed the Messiah of Israel, the Son of God and Saviour of the world.* [He was about to Prove it.] THAT was his work, THAT part was finished. *THAT night his work among people AND with his disciples was OVER - he would be DEAD in less than 20 hours.* In the beginning of Chapter 18 - they go to the garden - and a short while after that - he would be bound and handed over to the Jews, then Pilate and Herod. 2. *19:30** When Jesus had received the sour wine, He said, “It is finished.” And bowing His head, He yielded up His spirit.* WHAT did Jesus refer to here? Jesus used typology and continually spoke scripture from the cross eg "My God My God...comes from the first verse of Psalm 22 which reveals his Crucifixion in detail 1000 years before by King David. "It is Finished" refers to the High Priest's sacrificial offering of the Blood of the one goat, and the banishing of the 2nd Goat with the sins of the People of Israel. This happened Once per Year - the ONLY time the High Priest was to enter the Holy of Holies - to sprinkle Blood on the Mercy seat. He went THROUGH the huge thick woven Curtain that separated the Holy Place from the most Holy Place where the Ark of the Covenant sat. When the first goat was sacrificed and the 2nd goat released... The High Priest would say to the People - *IT IS FINISHED!* The is the DAY OF ATONEMENT or YOM KIPPUR. The Day the sins were removed from Israel. That was what Jesus did on the Cross. This is why he said "It is Finished!" The 2nd time. The sacrifice for sins was paid. *THEN LOOK WHAT HAPPENED IMMEDIATELY JESUS DIED!!!* The Death of Jesus Matthew 27 …50 *When Jesus had cried out again in a loud voice, He yielded up His spirit.* 51 *At that moment the veil of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom.* * The earth quaked and the rocks were split.* 52 *The tombs broke open, and the bodies of many saints who had fallen asleep were raised.…* 51 *God Tore the huge thick impossible to tear curtain between the Holy Place and the Holy of Holies - right down the middle!* *That opened the way into the Holy of Holies for all of us - not just the High Priest once a year...Jesus entered with his OWN blood and made the Perfect sacrifice.* THAT IS WHY "IT IS FINISHED!" This my friends watching this, is the REAL Christian version of John Chapters 17-19 which Deedat has no authority to declare. He is Muslim - not a Christian - and rejected our scriptures. WHY was Deedat pushing "It is finished" in Chapter 17? - because Chapter 18-19 proclaims the Crucifixion of Jesus Christ on the Cross. There is no-one who hates the Crucifixion more than the Devil. And Mr Deedat. Chapters 17, 18 & 19 are ALL corrupt... Or NONE are corrupt. The story of Jesus does not FINISH at Chapter 17 Mr Deedat. You know that NOW.
@benjamensarip1112
@benjamensarip1112 2 жыл бұрын
We r useless no reward it's finished
@Panzerdeath
@Panzerdeath 2 жыл бұрын
He's way too smart for them
@michalrusin6503
@michalrusin6503 2 жыл бұрын
Not for me.
@Panzerdeath
@Panzerdeath 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, whatever. Only ignorant people say that.
@michalrusin6503
@michalrusin6503 2 жыл бұрын
@@Panzerdeath you perfectly summarised your first statement. Deedat is ignorant, he just memorised a book and is repeating it like parrot.
@Panzerdeath
@Panzerdeath 2 жыл бұрын
That's not my problem what you think of him. I know an ignorant when see one and that's you. Toodles!
@michalrusin6503
@michalrusin6503 2 жыл бұрын
@@Panzerdeath ok. Tell me at least one pointer of Deedat which leads beyond the mind into the unconditioned. At least one pointer to remove layers of false identity ? He is a complete ignorant and I can prove it. His ideology is only thinking about thinking. Modyfying the conditioned mind and generating more mental noise of the abstract level.
@Ryuk-apples
@Ryuk-apples 2 жыл бұрын
Well if you say that you think the first one means that he completed his life work it means you agree with Ahmad deedat. Because the whole point is that he had finished the work before the alleged crucifixion which means dying for the whole humanity was not part of the job. You seem lost in this video, but its not that complicated
@alexandersetiawan7626
@alexandersetiawan7626 2 жыл бұрын
No prophet greather then the other that what i believe. They all servants of Allah. They the choosen one! The greather/st only Allah "the father"!
@peace.n.blessings5579
@peace.n.blessings5579 2 жыл бұрын
There is no where in the Bible that Christianity is mentioned. Bible = biblos in Greek. They chop and change the words in the bible.
@terrorizer77
@terrorizer77 2 жыл бұрын
Using tricks against a scholar. D-ick move.
@user-yo4jn5kz3j
@user-yo4jn5kz3j 2 жыл бұрын
Christianity is too complicated and too fantasy! Islam is clear and simple to human mind
@ilhamkalel9638
@ilhamkalel9638 2 жыл бұрын
Alhamdulillah for Islam
@loost68
@loost68 2 жыл бұрын
Why the thumbnails are always not in the video? Clickbait much ?
@kashif9145
@kashif9145 Жыл бұрын
Dude, didn’t the Christian bring those statements up! Put ur hat on the rite way around & we will be finished with our works
@Soup19922
@Soup19922 2 жыл бұрын
This is not Christian trickery. This is what all people who use translations are faced with. Sometimes it's not easy to express the nuances of another language. The word used for 'finished' in the two places is different. They are close but not the same. Perhaps one is better translated 'finishing'. I don't read Greek so I won't say definitively. You know who else doesn't read the Greek? Mr. Deedat and everyone commenting here. this would be a good question to ask a Greek reader. This not exactly the Satanic Verses.
@luqmankhanN
@luqmankhanN 2 жыл бұрын
Yup, The word "finishing" and "almost" (almost finished) was not introduce into English dictionary back then so the translator didn't have a choice but to use "finished". And even though the translator translated it wrong it is still consider the correct translation by Christianity "almost" all over the world and following the translation with logic I think. So this mean the translator did not know Greek very well but went ahead and tried to translate it anyway, it seems he did not care if it is wrong translation. I think the guy who questioned and Ahmed Deedat both did their research on Greek word meaning exactly "finished" that is why the guy left the argument, knowing it actually mean finished and not "finishing". he also couldn't argue "almost finished" because he knew that is not the Greek word mean so he tried "finishing" but then realized that is not correct either. And you know that both "finished" means differently because you don't read Greek? It would be good if you don't act like Mr. Deedat and everyone else commenting here and actually ask the question to the Greek reader as you suggested and come back with your research and guide us all.
@malakaisaumatua1969
@malakaisaumatua1969 2 жыл бұрын
Christians don't use tricks. your religion is a freedom of choice ...
@muhammadhammad7742
@muhammadhammad7742 Жыл бұрын
Just don't watch the rest of the video, do watch the video but my point is, even a normal muslim knows the answer, we are told by the prophet muhammad(P.B.U.H) to not grade any prophet (peace be upon them all) so if we say the prophet muhammad(P.B.U.H) is the greatest messenger, then we must believe that Ibrahim, moses , and jesus(peace be upon them all) were the greatest messengers ,not only the last messenger(P.B.U.H). When jesus(P.B.U.H) said that "i have accomplished my goal" something along those lines, it means that he has accomplished his goal of preaching of onesness of Allah and only HIS worship is ok. And same did the prophet muhammad(P.B.U.H) did. So no grading system . If we downgrade a prophet we are going against the prophet muhammad(P.B.U.H) and his teachings. Following the teachings of both or either is same , it's exactly the same, both jesus and muhammad(peace be upon them both) said worship one Allah(god) , no partners , if sin then repent and both promised eternal life and heaven.
@marjonylewinton4839
@marjonylewinton4839 2 жыл бұрын
I still don't understand what is going on here. Why are they arguing about "finish"? It looks like both of them are confused.
@Sajid-lp9ss
@Sajid-lp9ss 2 жыл бұрын
both of them are not confused. be honest
@marjonylewinton4839
@marjonylewinton4839 2 жыл бұрын
@@Sajid-lp9ss It looks to me that Zakir is saying that because Jesus Christ said "it is finished", he meant all his work is finished. Which is wrong. And that Christian doesn't know how to answer him because he is confused.
@nu-nisamiracle2401
@nu-nisamiracle2401 2 жыл бұрын
@@marjonylewinton4839 Jesus said his work is finished before his crucifiction. Means the crucifiction is not necesarily jesus's teaching.
@marjonylewinton4839
@marjonylewinton4839 2 жыл бұрын
@@nu-nisamiracle2401 "When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost." Those were his last words before he died. So you are wrong. And he himself said that he had to be killed.
@nu-nisamiracle2401
@nu-nisamiracle2401 2 жыл бұрын
@@marjonylewinton4839 nope, his last word is eli eli lama sabachtani.
@binturosa6630
@binturosa6630 2 жыл бұрын
SubhanAllah Deaf dumb and blind will not return to the right path Qur'an says that and Bible as well
@Dawahdude0
@Dawahdude0 2 жыл бұрын
Here is a good video on kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qph9YK97up6pmJ8.html AP is trying to convince Milahan to leave Islam
@bithiahamariah9139
@bithiahamariah9139 Жыл бұрын
John 17 3Now this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom You have sent. 4 I have glorified You on earth by accomplishing the work You gave Me to do. 5 *And now, Father, glorify Me in Your presence with the glory I had with You before the world existed.* Muslims - please explain Verse 5 which Deedat omitted. THEN: Isaiah 42:8 “I am YHVH; that is my name! I will not yield my glory to another or my praise to idols. Please explain how YHVH SHARES his Glory with Jesus both before the world began and after his resurrection?
@mikailabdal-jamiil9624
@mikailabdal-jamiil9624 2 жыл бұрын
This proves that Jesus was not crucified. He admits he 'finished" the assignment. No need to be crucified. His assignment was to bring folks to spiritual awareness of the only true God. He even gave credit to Allah, not himself. He did not say he was "almost finish". Then he prayed to God once he heard about the plot that was cooked up to kill him. He prayed so hard that the angels came to comfort him. Allah saved him from that dreadful torture. Torture is worst than death. No way our Father would do that to Mary's son. There is no need for a personal savior. Every one has "equal opportunity" to repent and seek forgiveness. No one has to die or shed blood. Crucifixion is a cruel punishment established by heartless people.
@ikant312
@ikant312 2 жыл бұрын
That makes absolutely no sense. Most reputable scholars don’t look to Islam to understand Jesus. Islam came hundreds of years after Jesus.
@howaboutreeeeeeeeeeeeeee381
@howaboutreeeeeeeeeeeeeee381 2 жыл бұрын
How a man could be a God if you want to know watch him when he runs to bathroom
@mohamedkhalif164
@mohamedkhalif164 2 жыл бұрын
Let's put a side finish or complete for a minute and think of this Jesus said and this is life eternal that they may know you the only true God and Jesus Christ whom thou sent These are same words Used By prophet Muhammad قُولوا: لا إلهَ إلا اللهُ، تُفلِحوا Say(and know) Allah Is One And Muhammad his messenger You may Attain eternal Life
@tydiab8838
@tydiab8838 2 жыл бұрын
Isn't Jesus not God because he talked to the father(God) There'd be no reason to if he was already God.. Unless he was schizophrenic
@jambohi5669
@jambohi5669 2 жыл бұрын
The point there was if Jesus was the one who finished the message of almighty God and that no one else should come to preach the message of God. So Shk. Deedat was just telling how the word finished did not mean finish of the prophecy but that word could have been used just for some small tasks that's why finished occurred more than once.
@hanktanzarian7470
@hanktanzarian7470 2 жыл бұрын
Thank Allah for Allah.
@AijazHussain-op7yj
@AijazHussain-op7yj 2 жыл бұрын
Vile serpents.
@akanbikolawole9646
@akanbikolawole9646 2 жыл бұрын
The standard of the best of the prophets of God was given by the Almighty Allah in the Quran as the only one true prophet of God sent to the whole world Quran 21:107, Jesus Christ pbuh said that the last prophet Muhammad Pbuh was greater than HIMSELF and John the Baptist Pbuh In Luke 7:28 & Matthew 11:11, the last prophet Muhammad Pbuh was greater than any other prophets Luke 13:28-30, proverbially mentioned in Matthew 13:31-33, the Expected prophet in John 1:19-21, Quran 3:81, Jesus Christ pbuh was sent to the lost sheep of Israelites ONLY in Matthew 1:21, John 1:11, Matthew 10:5-6, Mark 7:24-30, Matthew 15:24, Matthew 18:11, Matthew 19:28(a witness against the Israelites ONLY on judgment day), etc it is finished it completed my message to the lost sheep of Israelites. He declared unequivocally that he was a messenger of the only one true God( Allah) John 17:3, like the Creed of the faith of ISLAM which is the declaration of the only one true God who is one that deserved to be worshipped without any partners Matthew 4:10 and the last prophet Muhammad Pbuh was no more than the messenger of Allah like Jesus Christ pbuh.
@denisharris2889
@denisharris2889 2 жыл бұрын
Your man is not a prophet. He was a false prophet to begin with. In the quran allah said anyone who invented words and say it is allah. Allah will cut off his aorta. Mohammad died while experiencing his aorta being cut off. The Jewish lady who poisoned him said if you're a true prophet you'll survive. Mohammad couldn't survive despite he ate Ajwa dates. Mohammad experienced the excruciating Pain of more that two men when allah cut off his aorta. I will give you a link to reas more on how and why he is a false prophet
@akanbikolawole9646
@akanbikolawole9646 2 жыл бұрын
@@denisharris2889 I am sure you are a staunch worshipper of Jesus Christ pbuh how did the greatest benefactor of Christianity Judas Iscariot who betrayed your SAVIOUR to DIE for your SINS A Big question how did Jesus Christ pbuh died( John 19:15-18 or Acts 10:39) the your benefactor how did he died( Matthew 27:7-10 or Acts1:16-26). ? Explain from any of the different versions ?
@denisharris2889
@denisharris2889 2 жыл бұрын
@@akanbikolawole9646 @Akanbi Kolawole yeeah im staunch beliver. One verse talk on how Jesus died on a cross the other on mentioned a tree. This is simply the same meaning in different explanation. Jesus was crucified on a cross. About Juda Inskariote the verse doesn't give us in details on how did Judah die
@akanbikolawole9646
@akanbikolawole9646 2 жыл бұрын
@@denisharris2889 you should be ashamed of yourself because you are blindly following the instructions of the founder of Christianity Paul Hebrew 9:22-28. Jesus Christ pbuh was not a CURSE for the SINS of Mankind Deuteronomy 24:16, Ezekiel 18:1-end, Quran 53:38, Jesus Christ pbuh was made to prophesied the type of death Allah will make him undergo in John 12:31-33, Quran 4:157-158, Hebrew 5:7, Jesus Christ pbuh was not in support of the ignoble DEATH of slaughtering and hanging on the Tree Acts 10:39, he prayed for the mercy of the only one true God( John 17:3), check out the details of the prayers in Luke 22:39-45, as a righteous Muslim Submitting to the Will of God( Matthew 5:17-20, Matthew 7:7, Matthew 21:22,) his prayers was accepted Hebrew 5:7 & Quran 4:157-158, Jesus Christ pbuh said that God desire Mercy not SACRIFICE Matthew 9:13, supported by Luke 15:1-32.
@denisharris2889
@denisharris2889 2 жыл бұрын
@@akanbikolawole9646 Jesus confirmed to give his life for the sins of Mankind in so many verses. Not only that,The arch prophet of Old T astement, the John Baptist Confirmed this too (John 1:29). Concerning Apostle Paul. We respect St. Paul as much as you respect your false illiterate prophet. That the bottom line. And there's No way whatsoever you can say or do to change that. If apostle Paul is a founder of Christianity, then show us which religion your quran referring to when he talks about Christianity?. Mohammad can't knock the hustle. Apostle Paul is a Jewish literate scholar who received Jesus as his Lord and savior. But mohammad is an arab illiterate and anti Christ and false prophet to say the least. He knew nothing about the gospel. He relied his teachings from his Uncle Waraqah and others who helped him to forge the Qur'an. Your prophet came with satanic doctrine of quran which welcomes Demons (Jinns) and human together worshiping one God. This is typical an occult worshiping. Neither Jesus nor earlier prophets of Israel who promoted such kind of diabolic belief. Nonetheless, Judeo-Christians have nothing to do with worshiping and smooching, kissing the black stone and circumambulating the stone naked the way you do every hajj hoping the stone will wash away your sins. You've invented lies against Abraham. No one is interested in kissing the stone you should observe the discrepancy here I told you, Allah inflicted an excruciating pain of two people combined to your Beloved prophet. Never find one person who suffered as twice as Mhmmd did. Seems like you afraid to to figure it out On what have been transpired. Sounds like you have imbalance chromosomes in your genes. I can't help it .
@Sajid-lp9ss
@Sajid-lp9ss 2 жыл бұрын
he is traped
@sunnysleep7850
@sunnysleep7850 2 жыл бұрын
He he.. One bible translated into Every Language vs Quran in Arabic only translated by various people plus 6 books 📚 of hadith in Arabic with 3 gradings.. 😆🤣😂.. Yeah islam is very clear..
@carlosibarra4041
@carlosibarra4041 Ай бұрын
MUSLIMS REPENT! GOD'S JUDGEMENT IS COMING.
@mohammedyasin805
@mohammedyasin805 2 жыл бұрын
Who finished the Bible if Jesus was crucified
@mohammedyasin805
@mohammedyasin805 2 жыл бұрын
@H K Phooey tell me
@mohammedyasin805
@mohammedyasin805 2 жыл бұрын
@H K Phooey so you tell me who finished the Bible if he was crucified help me to understand it's not about embrassing I need help to understand more so please
@mohammedyasin805
@mohammedyasin805 2 жыл бұрын
@H K Phooey king 👑
@mohammedyasin805
@mohammedyasin805 2 жыл бұрын
Mohammed looks if Quran was finished because none have come after him it's now over 1400 years
@mohammedyasin805
@mohammedyasin805 2 жыл бұрын
Now would you help me share the secret pls pls pls
@abdisyahrizal4313
@abdisyahrizal4313 2 жыл бұрын
Im amazed by how easy christian overlook any of the mistake in the bible and yet so critical when trying to put mistake on Qur'an... To the point even if its wrong its ok for the bible..
@adimardev1550
@adimardev1550 Жыл бұрын
i think christain and muslim must not argue until the bible problem is solved. but that just can't happened. if it happened it will only prove Islam. every most recent discovery of some of the the earliest and uncorrupted gospels contains messages that is only proving islam.
@carllere7682
@carllere7682 2 жыл бұрын
Deedat still didn’t answer the man’s question. He employs the trick of diverting the attention of the man and the audience by posing a point that he thinks will diffuse the point that he’s avoiding.
@mdasyathebatmaticamat6770
@mdasyathebatmaticamat6770 2 жыл бұрын
It was the Q&A session. Hence Deedat didn't have much time to answer the guy.
@carllere7682
@carllere7682 2 жыл бұрын
@@mdasyathebatmaticamat6770 it was a yes or no answer. Which would have taken much less time than him trying to deflect the question. Stop making poor excuses
@mdasyathebatmaticamat6770
@mdasyathebatmaticamat6770 2 жыл бұрын
@@carllere7682 ..and even Deedat himself offered the guy to organize a debate if he really wants to do so, on any topic of his choice. Time does matter, doesn't it?
@carllere7682
@carllere7682 2 жыл бұрын
@@mdasyathebatmaticamat6770 I’m sure that the guy was not in a position to debate him, but that is still not the point. A yes or no answer would have taken one second, instead of deflecting for ten minutes. He offered to debate the man over whether the Bible talks about Muhammad or the Holy Spirit. Deedat would lose that one, if the man would simply use some effort. You are a deflector just like him.
@mdasyathebatmaticamat6770
@mdasyathebatmaticamat6770 2 жыл бұрын
@@carllere7682 With just either a yes or no answer without explaining it in detail, not only wouldn't be sufficient enough, but also wouldn't have satisfied the guy himself who's waiting patiently the outcome of the reply. That's the point! Indeed Deedat had never failed or lost, even the least. That's fact!
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