Majority of the loans being paid originated from Uhuru's first term and the most powerful dockets in that term were headed by Ruto. Ministries of water, public works, energy, agriculture and together with the respective parastatals were all lead but Ruto. Ruto got rich during Uhuru's first term. Ruto played Uhuru.

"They are taking bribes in dollars because the shilling is depreciating"🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

IT Doesnt Matter When and Where Corruption started but its time to fight it Together As ONE people

Great conversation, thank you SC for your words of wisdom. My view is that it's not that Kenyans don't want to rise up against the corrupt system, it's just that most of the country comprises people who are living from hand to mouth including the so called employed workers, in such a scenario the people would rather wake up and go to work to keep themselves alive, there is no room to for an uprising against the system. The philosophy in play here is to give the majority just enough to eat and they won't rebel against the system. The people who go out to picket and demonstrate are normally jobless Kenyans, those who are too desperate and probably want to loot and sadly don't mind dying in the process. It takes a certain level of wealth to demonstrate peacefully in masses and change the system or a certain level of general desperation to equally demonstrate violently in masses and change the system as well, but when you are stuck somewhere in the middle no change will come through mass action. But, I agree fully, the entire system is rotten, and we are struggling to build around it, so no matter the amount of good intentions that the president has unfortunately the system will fail him if its not changed.

Senior Counsel @AhmedNassir diverting the attention.

No one says that you have to borrow to repay the loan you already have. You try and renegotiate. Ghana has done it and I'm here and very proud to say that. Kenya just needs to avoid listening to these schooled liars with no education whatsoever.

The seed of discontent is germinating. Ruto should wake up, this may blow up on his face

What happened to Ruto’s slogan “Niko na plan”. Kenya needs manager now and not tribal politicians. Anyway as things stand now only the strong will survive.

Thank you senior council for speaking the truth, especially on our justice system. The rot in the judiciary is beyond anyones imaginations. Parliament is not representing anyone. The executive is corrupt to the core. Kenyans we are on our own.

Corruption in Every Sector should be addressed and dealt With accordingly

This lawyer is brilliant. Very so. IMF and her sister WB are doctors. Simply so.

"Ruto was Uhuru's Deputy for 10 Yeara and he cannot escape from what happened during those 10years"!!!.

For Kenyans together As ONE in Fight against Corruption, Civic Education is key,Let People Know their rights to Say No to Corruption

We told them Ruto and corruption were one and the same thing! How now do you expect him to fight himself????

Ruto said corruption is not an issue in Kenya, and he is living to his words.

I know they will blame Uhuru until 2027 and even beyond. Ruto was part of that same government, so he was part of the problem. But my question is,. Can someone explain to me the sudden insane and punitive increase in taxations by the current regime???

Exorbitant lawyer charges and utter dishonesty drove Kenyans to cut corners with judiciary.

Ruto in 2026, give me another term, I have fixed what Uhuru broke. Now i need to work for you Kenyans.

Someone please tell Ruto that, ' you cannot manage the economy with propaganda'. If the fundamentals are weak, the exchange rates will expose you.

Thanks senior counsel you are saying straight to the point as it's Thanks

Senior Cartel Nassir

This discussion seems to stamp/demonstrate the true meaning of the day's proverb about the stone remaining the same despite the rain falling on it. The administration is veere unlikely to change!

He is absolutely spot on.

There is a degree of dishonesty in Nasir's defense of Ruto for the mess of the hand shake govt. I never heard Ruto enthusiastically oppose the reckless borrowing in the Uhuru government which he was part of despite the hostile relationship with uhuru..

The question is who are we paying and for what? We need to know details about the so called debt.

The problem is that the people do not vote for accountability there are no accountable and reasonable leaders in this country

If by borrowing uhuru messed why is Ruto borrowing? Uhurus reason for borrowing we can see he made the infrastructure suitable for investors to come and invest and so that the burden of repaying the debts may not be heavy on mwananchi as it is now. Ruto is chasing the investors away sasa life has become unbearable!!

Nasir. you have said it all. It's good to say things as they are, we need good resorts but we need to be realistic. Give the government time.

A very basic fact from the learned lawyer: stop over borrowing, minimize your expenditure, make your government lean, make sure the funds don’t disappear from the treasury, this country needs a very qualified and strict management of the limited funds from our taxes!

Quite true wakili, but what if the impact of mlungula has it roots as far as to our children. Who is to blame n

A great man with great wisdom, I hope to meet you one day

Its true to say we lack knowledge of how things should be done. An awareness is needed for everything to be right. No Kenyan should be left out!

Looking at the comments is amusing, the honest learned friend who stood in front of cameras several yrs ago and told the media that Weston did not belong to his client the then DP only for the DP confirm months later in deed it's his. These are not honest actors and none of them come with cleans hands so them pontificating to us about graft and how bad the former regime was is quite the stretch. Reason why the current admin can't properly prosecute past graft is because they were part and parcel of it. They'll make all manner of noises but the details are what matter and past actors could also expose them and their hypocrisy.

A beneficiary of KK government will tell you nothing but Uhuru and Handshake.

I agree with our brilliant lawyer that uhuru and his handshake brother to be blame

SC you've said it all

Henry Halakhe watching and listening from Isiolo County

These two gentlemen are talking real sense but I don’t think this government will listen to their very important advise!

This is the same conversation people had in the 90's and will be the case in 2045, nothing will change, it'll burn to ashes several times over..

We bleave us we are kenyan lawyer ahmed nasir abdullahi is best lawyer in kenya grant mullah i salute you

"we have suspended the law for the rich and powerful!" That's exactly how the system works!

We tend to shift blame Uhuru yet, a good postmortem would place blame in Ruto dockets and he refused to go away, to protect those dockets.

Honest man speaking especially cleaning of Treasury

"the tragedy is that we don't even know what we are paying for " 😆 we are Fu**d up as a country

Ahmed has vandetta with unye,I believe he was short changed on a deal either Chief justice position or something else

Nothing hurts more than injustice. You will only understand Ahmednassir if you go to court and you lose because the judge was bribed..

Its Our collective Responsibilities to Fight Corruption

Ruto just borrowed Kshs 1.56 trillion within the first year of his regime. That is far more than any other past President of Kenya. Was Uhuru involved in that? Uhuru put up infrastructure that has eased communication across the country.

The only thing you can can be sure RUTO will never lie to you is when he promises to tax you. That comes immediately.

Lawyer nasri I like you

Ahemdnasir today u have talked sense

Ahmed’s watch shine😮

Sc you bless me when you speak.

Calling it as it is

this comes down to how a system ought to work, our terms of engagement 2010 gives the sovereign capacity to exercise power directly but the sovereign does not seem to get it. so, the status quo distorts the meaning because lest they see, Omtatahs kind of reading implicates them.

Why pay a Lawyer when can be the Judge😭😭

If the president is unable to address issues through the Judiciary, what chances do normal Kenyans have?

Lawyers we say "we're learned friends " meaning we know everything.

Capacity Building of the Citizen on the issues of Corruption and their rights, Public service charter is critically important

Mtauziwa hii story ya handshake until Ruto finishes 10 years. Si mwaka imeisha?

Change should come from Us as an Individual and Not abdicate to Politicians who have their sole interests at hand. Be the Change... Always Question what doesn't seem to be right

If our taxes pay their salaries, why are we not involved in setting salaries? Highest paid person in the government should earn 500K, and that should be the president. That will definitely bring down the cost of living. SRC you are letting Kenya down

I wish Grandmula could get more days in your studio,we are reading from wrong books this is the book,the majority of Kenya are acting on electral results emotions an agenda for an individual who doescare for any one but himself

We all agree we at mess... what we have different perspective is that... if really president ruto is sorting out the mess... or even if is capable of helping... in my view... his first mistake was choices he made in appointing cs and ps

Nonsense, Ruto has been travelling all over the world doing nothing but sightseeing while problems are pilling up day and day. Total wastage of public funds!

Nasir is trying to cover Ruto n himself because they were part n parcel of the last regime

God help anyone who has a case before the courts in Kenya. Especially civil cases.

Kenya is a rich country but all our foreign exchange is being used to pay for our huge imports( oil, mitumba, cars and machinery, food etc etc, debt and interest on loans). Our imports are 20 times bigger than our exports, and we also can not manage the forex earned from our natural resources.

Abdinasir,What's the source of revienue for developed County?

Isn't it absurd that Uhuru is still being blamed for rutos shortcomings. Uhuru didn't borrow trillions in rutos first few months, Uhuru did not support LQBTQ ruto did. Uhuru did distribute fertilizer that damaged crops and soil ruto did. Uhuru didn't introduce housing levy to loot Kenyans ruto did

As we allocate blame on loans one question remains...who was second in command of this country for 10years?!

We are tired of the same story for a whole year about how the handshake did this or that, can't they find new stories.

Did Kibaki blame Moi or he just fixed the Economy poor reason from poor lawyer uhuru even 1yr..

The Debt register should be put up o a portal for all and sundry to view and analyse.

1.2trillion in one year and Ahmed says only Uhuru borrowed!

When other Kenyans say Somalis are so talkative its true You can learn just from this Epesode the two journalists are just like audiences like us. Hit the Like if you also observe

Why don't kina Ruto go for the odious debt repay it and leave us alone

Yes, mullah on judiciary you are right.

Is Uhuru borrowing sinful and RUTO now over borrowing holy in short period 😮

Ahmednasir is the 1st.guest who knows the only problem kenys has.LOWLESSNESS

Well done Ms Ndu. You conducted the program this time around better than Eric - the Ruto's apologist. Maybe the Standard should consider you for Eric's position because you question things without fear or favour.😂😂😂👏👏👏

The guest is directly associated with ruto affairs, such that he fears to mess with him. Now the easy way out is drug and demonise uhuru and raila.

Grand Mullah giving us the wisdom this Monday morning 🦾🦾

It is very sad soon we will be like Brazil, Ecuador killing each other cause there's no where to turn on

This is the habit of Kenya Keisha people they are obsessed by the name of our beloved and hard working retired president Uhuru Kenyatta. You just mention Uhuru Kenyatta in every way, and the more most of us in central Kenya we miss and more want him back to the political arena!!!!!!! Gachagua with his arrogance na tumbo kubwa atashangaa one day we will get our president back to work for Kenyans!!!!!!!!

Kenyans what are we waiting for? What is the ceiling in what can we bare because the ground is now sinking.

Hey,,we were told it's a company

The problem is either counsel is ignorant or he has fake credentials.

Given chance this brilliant man can get rid of corruption in Kenya Sasa nani atamutambua labda mungu

Hunger will be hunger and a hungry stomach is angry stomach

A person or a group of people can clean the coffers of the country and stash them somewhere we know with no consequences means we are at the mercy of whichever individual we elect. Why do we have the constitution and institutions if they can be overuled by an individual

I wish Tanzanians heard this, that having independent institutions, electoral, judiciary, new constitution etc, is no panacea of any problems faced now!😢. Rethink, think globally act locally in Nyerere spirit of a United Tanzania, addressing the three problems he named in the 60s😢😢😢😢

We want solutions not blame games, even if handshake was the problem, what is the solution right now!! The governement knew about the problem and said they now the solution what are this solutions?

This going to church and mixing government policies and politics in the church, has to stop and also going to state house for getting development, is madness.

Handshake ilimramba Raila in last election because people knew his role during handshake

I live in USA. The price of one gallon is $6.00.

Next time give us someone who is objective in their assessment of issue..not this overly obsessive man,openly biased and spin doctor..eti handshake ..over a year later. One can support the government without one suspending the fundermental use of one's brain and good reason..

Allow me to comment without watching this crap of previous regime blame game. I wonder why media bring such liars to lie on live television. These guys should be ignored and asked real tough questions

You cannot discuss succession politics when the king is still alive!

Very right. Kenyans wananyanyasika Kwa sababu ya kumuachia Raila peke yake kulalamika ughumu wa maisha! NGO nazo zimenunuliwa tangu enzi za Kibaki😢