I can pay for it!

As much as I hate it, I cannot censor you

This actually made me lol

Lol

The cooperation demands more ideas like this

Most of people also don't saw it.

Me to kid

Same

@Mr. Tambourine Man same same

Well it was preaty obvius for Mises but the marx beard can be problem

Darkeyes of the world unite!

EXACTLY UNITE DESPITE DISAGREEMENTS!!!

My friend is a minarchist and I’m a demsoc, haha

I don't have commie friends.

I do

Issue is only one provided actual statistics and data to back his point up The other only pander to emotions and false morality

@@blakeh9231 Now which one is which.

@@Cyborg_Lenin That's exactly what I was wondering lmao

@@blakeh9231 Obviously, one is the one who is right and the other is wrong

Otherwise known as the dispute of the blind with the deaf

😂😂😂

I would sign that petition so fast lol

I agree.

+1

@@Coolsomeone234 Theres lots Discussion to have. I warmly reocmmend 'Is Capitalism even Efficient?!' by 'Second Thought', as well as the Times he and the KZfaqr Some More News talked about Workers, Worker-Rights and Unions.

The capitalism part was good

The good part was pretty good imo

As an anarcho cap I liked the entire video

Haha, I loved this video. Good points on both ends.

@@calanmcshane554 I agree

Rhythm needs to be on line

@@jonahshevtchenko7356 no it's because marx was an idiot

if he knew how doors work, he wouldn't be communist.

Pikettt of course isn't a Marxist. He's a social democrat, a reformist capitalist.

my boy Tommy P

Gotta love free enterprise

*Serfdom

Meh who cares. Whatever works. If a youtube rap battle is what gets people intrested in the systems around them then I don't see what's so bad about that. The only stupid thing is when people only listen to the rap battles and stop at that but I feel like anyone who wants people to follow a system they believe in eventually realizes that you can't expect them to always read a buch of dry boring theory. You have to get good at convincing people and rewording all that theory and philosophy into words they can actually understand without spending years in college. This is already done with science so I don't see what's so wrong with doing the same with politics as long as it's done well. The problem is that most of the time it isn't done well.

ERB

It's a pity, but it does work. It's better to have idiots educated through rap battler than uneducated idiots.

Yeah the “free” public schooling might be catching up to us lol I laughed really hard when I saw ops post.

@@noname-zp1yh The problem is that just the basic concept that socialism and communism are the same is fundamentally flawed. If you want fake news, the fact that they call carl marx a socialist instead of a communist is fake news.

I'd be down

There's no leftwing party in the US, only elitist central & righwing bourgeoisie on the top. And capitalist lobbiers

@Dim real leftists are against the elitist Stalinist style bureaucratic states and reactionary party dictatorship. You dammed idiot!

Im gonna watch it in the heartbeat

@Dim No i no mentioned ur murica. i want a change my own country corrupted rightwing vietnam. how dare you

Of course socialism is better, what is there to discuss? Unless you are a foreign agent using KZfaq here.

@@user-ez8le1rp3x no it isn’t. Literally any coherent reading of history or economics proves you wrong.

@@ExPwner You mean the american history textbook? Give me a favour and sod off ya looney.

@@user-ez8le1rp3x nope I mean the actual historical failure of socialism. 😂

@@user-ez8le1rp3x socialism is better And also Socialism failed everytime in history 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Lol idiots

Yeah I've noticed that while he was extremely anti-capitalistic, he did see some positives of capitalism and thought that it was good for setting up the conditions for communism.

@@flatarthur3161 its because to him capitalism was bad but not as bad as Feudalism.

@@thenotsodiscretewolf2098 I know and I agree that capitalism is a better system than feudalism but there is still the element of class domination and so capitalism must go.

@@flatarthur3161 OK? What is your point ? Ever since the start of humanity there were always classes. From strong to weak, kings to peasant and finally rich to poor. No matter how you look at it people will always want to be better than others. Because we are humans imperfect in every way possible.

@@paeanaitoko7019 Class society wasn't always a thing.

Laisez-Unfaire, you missed the pun... Laissez-Faire is basically the Marxist version of Capitalist (in that it's the most free version. Contrary to opinions, Marxism systemically doesn't incorporate big government, though of a transition of Capitalism-->Marxism can, and often times does end in that.

@@vinnyvin4287 Marxism? Free? Yikes.

@@vinnyvin4287 While I can agree that a true communist society as Marx described has never been fully implemented, that's because the nations that have attempted it can never seem to get past the "Dictatorship of the Proletariat" phase.

@@jasonterry1959 Marxism is a free ideology, though ofc it has problems (like incentives to work), and is violent (as in, demands violence for it to even work).

@@therabbi9848 Fair, of course, there is flaws within Marx's theories, especially in the transition phase, and some major problems in the phase of governance (like the incentive to work, and how to re allocate resources without price [a system of valuation] to direct value to).

@Xeta Only in terms of citizenship - he didn't view himself as a German. Jews, even atheist Jews, view themselves as a separate ethnicity which doesn't even belong to the white/Caucasian group (in their own categorization, cos at least the Ashkenazi Jews look pretty white to me).

@The industrial revolution was a disaster Best country ever is debateable. Germany sure brought to the world a lot of progression, but so did another countries. I don't think we should pick a best one.

@@martinledermann1862 he didnt even see himself as a jew thus his antisemitism in "the jewish questions"

@@TheAvos18 Don't you confuse the religious identity with the ethnic one here? As far as I know, Marx was opposed to Judaism, and that's not the same as being Anti-Semitic - that's just being an atheist ;)

@@martinledermann1862 "they" cant decide what it is either... technically there cant be an atheist jew, so it must be racial, not religious...

Keep studying. Each segment has different concepts that you can look up as well as different economists referenced. In particular the part about labor theory of value being disproven by (Eugen) von Bohm Bawerk is something people should learn.

Mises was really on to something there.

My advice is don't get caught up in internet politics. Read books from the two sides, learn about economics (even tackle Marx's Das capital if you can??). Marx's ideas are clearly misrepresented here. I don't blame the video, it's already hard to try it.

🎯

We didn't even talk about Adam Smith in the school I was.

Communists control the schools

Corporatist state schooling won't teach anything that's different.

@@Gewalt1984 Facts.

Exactly. Why the hell Marx sounds like typical Marxist-Leninist dictator from American propaganda?

@Діма Базалюк о, прошу прощения, я забыл добавить "из американской пропаганды".

@@RedWanderer26 the video is american or english, what do you expect? Of course capitalism wins in their eyes, while Marx isn't even protrayed that well in comparison

@@cicciopasticciopatrozzi1907 how can u know that? Where is Marx portrayed good? In north Korea schools

@@ShayNoMore1 actually, a lot of economists admit that he got a lot of predictions right, you shouldn't judge a person basing on the people that used his/her ideology to obtain power, Marx doesn't have anything to do with the crimes of Stalin, Pol Pot, Hoxcha and many others.

Like yours.

Malekith eh. I just come here to watch arguments. Although I haven’t been in this comment section in about a month.

Canuck Of bruh what about that comment then??

Blurg96 wdym? I’m a shitposter bruh. This comment isn’t even a discussion or ‘intellectual’. It’s just a dry remark about KZfaq comments in most cases. I didn’t think I would have to explain that but apparently I do.

Canuck Of bruh that’s fine but what about that comment?

erm actually USSR wasnt real socialism/communism

⁠@@miner_farmYeah, like Lenin wasn’t a real socialist, Marxist-leninism isn’t real. It’s like Pol Pot, he was taught communism directly by the French communist party leaders, but man trust me, it wasn’t real communism😂. You guys have hard time admitting when all proof are against you.

Leftists are fat and gay unlike rightists who are fat and straight

😂

look we want diabeties man

You a Tim Pool Fan?

@@isaiahoconnor8236 no

@@Gabriel-dk5db LOL , He just says "Its complicated" almost every video LOL :)

Gabriel - this is so on point for me as well lol

@@isaiahoconnor8236 who the fuck is tim pool?

i am a german sitting in here like a yes a debate we had 100 years ago social-market-econemy for the win! aka rheinecapitalisem ore in german Soziale-Marktwirtschaft

Fun fact, the Nazi party was a nationalist socialist party. Socialism is the cause and philosophy of Hitler’s rise. So before you decide that socialism is a great idea, I just think about World War II for a moment. Thank you for reading this.

@@grantreigel1852 Ah, yes, how democratic the Democratic People's Republic of Korea happens to be...

Lol

@@grantreigel1852 what?! Do you now, that big corporations in Germany supported Hitler, and after his revolution the business owners saved their companies? Yep, socialism. Learn history

The Keywords Rich, Poor, Incentive and Capitalism all got covered repeatedly by 'Some More News'

Capitalism can be fixed enough to not gen0cide the species, i think, but why settle for that? I became a socialist after i reailized its lied about a lot and that gave me flashbacks to the theory of evolution A thing mighty-much lied about

this shit is ass, crazy how much better the erb one is

*...and communism is starvation... :V* EDIT: clownbread nerd here corrected me on typo 👇

@@HANKSANDY69420 let me guess, you're an 11 year old hispanic kid that only repeats what your parents say about politics

@@HANKSANDY69420 communism* Why the hell would it be? Are you just joking?

@@Eliamaniac *Are you a Russian?*

@@HANKSANDY69420there were many different places and situations, for example in Poland after war many people had opportunity to eat meat on daily basis in contrast to pre war villages.

Or those who dont like marxism proselytized to our youth.

@@SeanPS What do you mean? Marx got slaughtered in this...

@@a_noob559 they both had powerful arguements. Your opinion of slaughtering is objective. I happen to agree with you though. I just think the best thing Marx can do for history is be forgotten.

@@SeanPS True, that's just _my_ opinion, and others might think differently. But I still think that this video does a very good job at showing who is right. Mises uses facts, evidence, history, and bases his ideas on logic. Marx, however, bases his ideas on feelings, utopia and disproved theories. That pretty accurately represents the two ideologies IRL if you ask me. Those who see fact will say Mises won, and those who see fiction will say Marx won, just like real life. No, our solution is not to forget Marx. We should disprove him instead. We've tried forgetting Marx, but he will always be re-discovered by the selfish and gullible, which is why we need to prop him up instead, so that we can tear him down. We need to make sure that everyone knows who Marx was, and how his ideology fails not because it was never 'real' socialism, but because his ideas are fundamentally flawed. It would be better for us to put him in the spotlight, if anything.

@@a_noob559 he is in the spotlight. In our universities, in our media, in our presidential candidates, etc. But I agree with your consensus of sunlight being the best disinfectant. At the same time, as capitalists we love using facts and logic, unfortunately others have forsaken reason for madness.

are you denying that china shot up hundreds to thousands of students to advance to tiananmen square on june 4th 1989?

@@lucaadams-agresti3124 Oh no, I certainly know that happened and I am definitely on Mises side, it's just that the Chinese have so hopelessly tried to cover it up I find it quite funny.

Joshua Hieter ohh, it was satire, sorry my bad

People are not gonna take this well lol

R/whooooosh

Theres lots Discussion to have. I warmly reocmmend 'Is Capitalism even Efficient?!' by 'Second Thought', as well as the Times he and the KZfaqr Some More News talked about Workers, Worker-Rights and Unions.

@@nenmaster5218 spam! Absent Thought is propaganda

@@ExPwner @James Adams Okay all the Videos you Recommend are Capitalist Propaganda

@@marrowkaiproductions7053 no they are not. They are fully sourced from reputable sources. Quit lying.

​@@ExPwner Second thought cites actual sources instead of just a book with 10,000 sales

Fax

same lmao

@The Communist Channel Hi comrade

@The Communist Channel ;)

Agreed comrades

I love how the left and right always point at one another that they are the first to get mad or something while in reality both sides are fucking retarded when it comes to this.

I haven't

@@thetrain47539 so you are saying that everything economic is retarded, all left and right mean is communism and capitalism

@@diobrando6162 You might wanna reread that comment, smart ass.

@Andrew Cox k. But I never stated an opinion. All I did was say that the left and right are both impulsive and both cant seem to have a civil discussion. So why are you trying to discuss capitalism with me? You don't even know my stance on the political spectrum. All you did was see a critizism of the right wing and see it as a direct insult and felt the need to debate me on it.

i thought mises was austrian

​@@melissareohorn7436Yes, he was. Still an Ethnic German, though. Austrian is a nationality.

​@@GaryHFieldOh dear. This sounds familiar.

@@theaveragejoe___ just because Hitler said it doesn’t mean it has to be wrong. He was also a vegetarian, but that doesn’t invalidate vegetarian theory.

@@user-lz2ee4ch2n I never said it was wrong.

Theres lots Discussion to have. I warmly reocmmend 'Is Capitalism even Efficient?!' by 'Second Thought', as well as the Times he and the KZfaqr Some More News talked about Workers, Worker-Rights and Unions.

@@nenmaster5218 bot

@@Angov4321 Saying that to me literally can only prove 1/2 things: Either youre really mentally-slow so you didnt realize how much sense it makes to talk to a robot OR you dont really believe it.

I find this to be much better, as the one ERB did with Stalin and other soviet guys was pretty lackluster

Same editor.

Sentry Buster Well yeah, ERB is just as hominem fallacies with some subtle historical facts

Colin Schwiethale Oh ok I see

@@colinschwiethale2375 insults aren't ad hominem

left-wingers-are-terrorists That escalated quickly

left-wingers-are-terrorists fuck you man. Creep

@left-wingers-are-terrorists but then you'd have to pay child support.

@@darealpoopster idc I got free cake

Cum in me. Wait. I don’t think that’s how it works

Get your head outta the clouds

It’s true though. Unleash the wisdom and creativity of the market and watch the whole world turn green.

​@@gypster2004 we already could be had the Hippies not killed the Nuclear movement.

Well.. Honestly creativity Is EXACTLY what we need. I already have major ideas. 1. Return of nuclear powerplant use alongside dearmament of Nuclear weapons for further energy. 2. Investment into other powerplants for electricity. 3. Investment into cheaper electric engines for cars with changed social norms 4. Air-cleaners mounted on every vehicle.

@@yeboxxxchannel2505 For your opinion to matter and your plans to be well-thought-out you ofcourse need knowledge. Like what cilmate-change-youtubers and the infrastructure-videos by "Some More News" and "Edencity" provide and offer

Communism With American Characteristics indeed

Bread Santa says smash the state

@@Erl0sung Anarchy of production? That's literally what Anarchism is all about. Horizontal production. Anarchy doesn't mean "no rules" it means "horizontal" making is effectively synonymous to "no rulers" as much as "no rulees." It's like the song of the United Front: "He wants no servant under him and no boss over head." Anarchist theory is literally all about horizontal production and the different ways that it could be done.

@Marxist Garveyist There's dozens of us, dozens!

If everything is horizontal, then who will enforce the rules?

Brian I was so impressed with that line

+

So a free market enthusiast came with that term 'laissez unfair". It's no news since the left can't meme.

Andi Lole man shut up the right just makes the same 3 jokes about gender and starvation lmao

@@nairb2173 why are you angry? Second. It's a free world and I can say whatever I want about the left. So don't let the door hit you on your way out.

Wait i don’t know that :))

Yes

No

Yes

MMMM YES COMMUNISM CRUSH ME WITH THE STATE DADDY~~~!!!!!

@@wolfskrieg6630 no

Thomas takes a toll for the dark I’d shoot the socialist before the feudalist actually

@Mike Hawk this is why Socialists are still a thing

@Mike Hawk oh you are, but when you push something down it'll just sprout back up harder

If I payed for that gun I'm the one shooting both of them

Well... that's actually what happened, you know... the bourgeoisie paid for the weapons but the working class fought the revolution basically

We can also agree on another thing: mitochondrion is the powerhouse of the cell.

capitalists and socialists can agree, Facism sucks.

My capitalist and socialist homies agree that Minecraft's the best game of the decade.

не бывать этому никогда

he brings up a good point..

eh it grows on you after a while

@@UltraRik when will all these non Mises stuff grow on me?

@@workerspower2011 what did you dislike so much about it

I just skip that part

@@workerspower2011 Why do you care if we enjoy it? Go listen to something else? And by 'real rap', what do you even mean? Not all rap is about doing drugs, doing crimes, and women. Try and get some diversity in your diet

They understand both and have an entire series devoted to breaking down each of the lines and how they correspond to the ideas of each.

@Anakin Skywalker thanks

I did too

Me too ahahhaha

It took me sec lol i got with face but crap remembering names 😭

@@decodoe i watched the video again and didn't see anywhere fascists mentioned as communist. Can you tell the time ?

@@decodoe Another genious that can't differentiate between generating wealth and capitalism. Naziosocialist Germany and (!) fascism were (in terms of economy, not racial and other policies) built on the idea of protectionst policy and self-sufficiency through mixture of private and public ownership over the means of production. Which did allowed private profits (generation of wealth) for (mostly) selected and sometimes lucky individuals in the society, however, puting national interest first. In the instance where public (nations) interest would be in the need of assistance from or directly clash with interests of private individuals. The state would prevail and if needed through the use of force towards the individuals who had accumulated wealth. The similar scenario can be seen in various examples when subjects of state (citizens) are controled by a higher entity (Emperors, Kings, Tzars, Dictators). Examples can be seen from Medival age and/or Feudal system, when Emperors, Kings and Tzars needed finances for conquest or defence, they would generate wealth through force if required, to Kulaks in Communist Soviet Union to many other examples throughout history. Therefore, Facism is not differentiated from any other dictatorial, authoritarian, totalitarian system when it comes to generating wealth, it is differentiated in social and political issues, but that's not because its driven by capitalism.

@@decodoe ayyyy, I was hoping to find someone in the comments who actually knows something about political ideologies. That makes two apparently

@@decodoe Stalin, Mao, Lenin, Mugabe and the like were socialists though.

@@decodoe fascist Is built on capitalism?no,it's built on the control of the economy by the state.it's corporativism

Video's not bad but the videos with Poor, Rich, Incentive, and System in the Name by KZfaqr Some-More-News sure hit harder

At least we don’t starve

@@RandomRothbardian What if we had no governments AT ALL That would be amazing if humanity could be at least somewhat peaceful afterwards

@@RandomRothbardian RANDOM IDEAS (THAT MAKE ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE): BRITISH RUSSIA (They have a revolution then become part of Britain) BRAZILIAN EMPIRE COMES BACK BUT IT TAKES BOTH NORTH AND SOUTH AMERICA AND YES THAT DOES MEAN THE UNITED STATES BECOMES PART OF BRAZIL VIETNAMESE EMPIRE** (ITS ACTUALLY THE ENTIRE SOUTH PACIFIC OR ASEAN EXCEPT ITS OWNED BY VIETNAM) THE ENTIRE WORLD STOPS SPEAKING ENGLISH AND ENGLISH GETS REPLACED WITH PORTUGUESE

@@RandomRothbardian except several thousands a year in the usa

Notice he still ate all that stuff.

Yep, I noticed that too. Also, the chorus sings the soviet anthem.

Peio Ruiz I loved that, it’s really beautiful

It's to mimic the patriotic songs of communist countries

I think it's to represent Individualism and Collectivism.

@@lab2146 when??

No, no.. You're on to something. Jesse and James are most definitely socialists.

This who song is a pokemon rap battle tribute.

That's _within our_ nation, not from every nation. Also in the original Japanese Kojiro (James) says "To protect the peace of the world" (heck Musashi (Jessie) actually says "to _stand by_ the evils of truth and love")

@@ianbrooks1804 yet their boss is a captalist

@@sergiorubens8475 They're low-wage proletariat Their boss is the capitalist

as it should, he with immael kant really are the devils plucking the puppets strings

@SlimyKlerburt yeah, problem is that under socialism you break egg but inside is stolen by goverment.

@SlimyKlerburt ř?

Marx was not a pacifist. He objects to being blamed for shit he didn't do, not to being misrepresented

@@bobgilbert1953 If I teach children to murder and they go out and murder am I to blame for them doing so did I not teach them to do this should I not be held accountable for my actions and words

@@michaelkeha Sure, but A, Kapital is a thousand page treatise on economics, written in Russian. It is not for teaching children. It's too dense for most *adults* to finish. And B, Socalism is not inherently violent. So, your argument fails on both it's faces.

based

based as fuck

Real marxist shoot them

Based

What does "based" mean?

Just so you know, the makers of this video (AIER) are infamous for their support for climate change denial, anti-vaccine conspiracies, child labour sweatshops (seriously) etc, and their President William P. Ruger was nominated by Donald Trump to serve as the US Ambassador to Afganistan. They are a right-wing think tank and by absolutely no means unbiased or impartial.

Точнее он просто застрелился, так как он был против демократии и за власть меньше ства над большинством

Works better than crypto...

@@guilhermeteodosio40 And way worse than Fedex. By the way, "crypto" as a substitute for anything relating to the free market is absurd. Crypto is literally controlled by a dozen of players.

@@theondono "Crypto is controlled by a dozen players" so, the free market?

@@guilhermeteodosio40 do you understand what the term “free market” means at all? No, a telegram run oligopoly is not a free market..

@@theondono The "free market" model of capitalism is an oligopoly, everything is controlled by a few corporations and the economy is always crashing due to small government management.

Allow us to introduce our inbreeding

@@nickdimopoulos4052 quite nice is it

Hail the king!!!

Well, socialism always devolves in a sort of monarchy

@@aklimaron7398 tell that to the tzars

and 3 and 4 and 5!!!

I can't believe EVERY SINGLE FUCKING TIME somebody goes how about we try it communism again I know we starved the last 7 times but I won't mention that to the public.

Pretty sure mises did

Not a communist, neither a Capitalist. I am currently devloping a new manifesto mixed of Communism, Monarchy, Capitalism, and some economic stuff from fascism. I will try to bring up an revolution. To make a better place. To stop killing, rape, etc... The name of that ideology is “CoFaDemocracy”(kinda weird I know). Don't worry I'm not a gore leader lol 😁. Wish me luck peeps! Soon brother

@Michael Terrell II Yeah Racism is a no no brother. I've avoided that because if I did that, It'll be a doomed ideology same as Fascism...

Zabir Alam Farhan that’s really cool tell me when your done.

AUTOMATIC WIN

So true

Bo that makes sense lol

3000 points

True..And socialism is like Captain America..

Karl Marx was a german philosopher, have no doubts about that. He wanted only the best for Europe. But his ideas landed only everywhere else in the world but Europe. Seems like his ideas really worked more for the oppressed and not for the oppressors.

@@user-ez8le1rp3x his ideas did not work at all

@@ExPwner Only because of Hestapo work.

@@user-ez8le1rp3x nope they failed on their own

@@ExPwner Only if you take into account the fact of anticommunism and the lack of espionage on behalf of people's champions.

We already kind of say that, but we word it this way: "What we have is not Capitalism, it's Corporatism"... we need to break up the major monopolies, and terminate money-based lobbying, be it by corporations or unions.

​@WhatEver-xn5sn *Corporcracy, Corporatism is a completely different economic system

I think we can be man enough to say that all capitalism isn't the same. Just look at Russia and Norway, both are capitalist(I think) but have vastly different laws and levels of government control which leads to different standards of living. One capitalist country failing does not disprove the entire economic idea

@@likedebia4693 Wow so if an example doesnt't make a rule, is it possible socialism is possible even if some countries failed to emerge? 🤔

@@Eliamaniac you can think about that all you want, I think that socialism will never build a utopia, it's okay if you don't agree, just tired of seeing people trying to erease history and say that followers of their ideology aren't real followers just to try and keep a clean record, I don't think any ideology has a perfectly clean record

Awesome! Well done.

Confirm that, I was the ticket.

Do you enjoy the show?

So, Mises or Marx?

You were the best!!!!

Can you point out where you are I wanna try to find you

@SpongeBob SquarePants He meant where he was in the video...

SpongeBob SquarePants ayyyyyy i’m in tampa dawg

Amy Johnston I’m not quite sure you want to associated with such an ironically quite fascistic (at least the way they act during protests) organization that does more harm then good

Hasn't aged well though

Just so you know, the makers of this video (AIER) are infamous for their support for climate change denial, anti-vaccine conspiracies, child labour sweatshops (seriously) etc, and their President William P. Ruger was nominated by Donald Trump to serve as the US Ambassador to Afganistan. They are a right-wing think tank and by absolutely no means unbiased or impartial.

@@thezeroneliteno they are not. Piss off smear merchant.

........w h a t...........

Agreed

Giraffe fan spotted

Like fasci?

Not sure what this means, can you use an example

Michael Schelonka “Socialism’s record isn’t hard to parse First it was tragedy, now it’s a farce!” Mises’ final verse

These guys killed it on integrating nerdy "easter eggs" into a hilarious music video

STFU Commie.

Ludwig von Mises oh no it’s you time to get Socialisted

@@user-qt4tz3kv1t Good one!! XD

@@user-qt4tz3kv1t LMAO

@@user-qt4tz3kv1t 5 cent army trooper detected

India was heavily affected by mercantilism not capitalism that is what bankrupted them and left them in such a poor state but Communists currently run one of the largest terrorist groups in India the naxalites

Lmao remember 1991 economic liberalisation by chadmohan singh

Its lied about. Which hints on it being good.

It took me until reading this comment

It took until {NULL}

Ace Dean it’s ok, me too

It took the time, until my ass woke up

Rightists lmao

There's nothing controversial. Socialist countries fail every time

It's not controversial at all. Mises work is grounded on actual economic indicators. The Left is just competely economically ignorant.

@@Daily_Llama crazy take

@TheOfficialOnlyOne_1 unless you ou are a radical centrist, it's bit to the left or right

across every content culture and greed

The workers* The capitalists are using drugs and the ancaps are sucking them

Capitalism is when music

BASED

@Krónika Almost like the video is more concerned with rhetoric than with analyzing their philosophical positions. They have Marx say "outcomes that are equal" for chrissake.

@Krónika Because you aren't competing with a store when you buy something there.

@Krónika you can have competition and cooperation they are not as opposite as you my think, competition just means, in terms of capitalist, several companies competing to sell same or similar products and services. Cooperation just means working together to achieve a goal, I think that's the actual definition but works for capitalism, and companies are working together to strengthen the economy through the competition. It's like In the States Walmart vs Target. Yes they are in competition with each other because their both are stores that you can go in and buy stuff from their competition means they have to improve or provide better or cheaper products which in the long run helps strengthening the economy. I think a tl:Dr example is a sports team just each person is trying to become the best, but the end goal is for your team to win and your internal competition can aid it achieve the cooperation to obtain the end goal.

@Krónika The cooperation is the biproduct of the competition. The competition creates jobs, provides products and services, and allows for growth so the cycle keeps going. I don't think I worded it properly the first time but this is not mental gymnastics. They have opposite meanings, yes but that doesn't mean that in actions their opposite. There is a load of examples that could be used to show that cooperation and competition aren't that opposite in action. I honestly think your the one that did the mental gymnastics if after my clarification just now, you don't understand or disagree with them being opposites in meanings alone.

If only he wore a white black checkered suit

Funny, both are firm believers in capitalists. And one is an autocrat.

Understandable

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@@ryanthefilmmaker2574 thanks

Just so you know, the makers of this video (AIER) are infamous for their support for climate change denial, anti-vaccine conspiracies, child labour sweatshops (seriously) etc, and their President William P. Ruger was nominated by Donald Trump to serve as the US Ambassador to Afganistan. They are a right-wing think tank and by absolutely no means unbiased or impartial.

Theres lots Discussion to have. I warmly reocmmend 'Is Capitalism even Efficient?!' by 'Second Thought', as well as the Times he and the KZfaqr Some More News talked about Workers, Worker-Rights and Unions.

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@@nikoleo2000 ?

@@nenmaster5218 i was alking about the dude above, who said that we should keep arguing, no one tells me what to do, ill keep ranting socialism and capitalism

Nobody cares about the “expressive art”. It’s the material that is the star. 🤦‍♂️

One believes in the government seizing private property to make it public. The other believes in the government seizing private property to make it public. Where’s the difference?

@@L_back He missed-out on making spacebars and you dont know the difference between socialism and communism. Oh my god, everyone in this thread needs to selfcheck

@@loturzelrestaurantgo away Slevin alt

Communism is a type of Socialism. Like a Square is a kind of Rectangle.

@@loturzelrestaurant well then, kind sir, why don't you explain the difference for all of us unintelligent cavemen?

yeah, true

Lmao =))

@@cosminblk8359 There you are.... Go back in hell you imposter...

So true XD

Brilliant.

ooga booga? i'm in 😏

Ever read Zerzan? Ironically enough primitivists sure do use a lot of sophisticated and technical language from anthropology and postmodern philosophy.

Grug agrees with pointy-hat-Grug

You Been watching Jreg?

Garios my boi, can we agree empire best bannerlord faction?

Nah. The 4 year plan is better.

I'm not Laura Kightlinger red vine is a brand

Ikr nobody put a gun to his head and told him eat or get shot. Ultimately he is choosing to eat it and he chose to spend money on it.

Well in capitalism at least you can afford to get diabetes in socialism you can't even afford a gallon of milk so yeah keep laughing

@I'm not Laura Kightlinger ....

It was a twizzler

You aren’t even real, jesus

It worked in the Soviet Union- they broke up the Russian empire and the various nationalities had self-determination. There was a balance between national independence and internationalism, fraternity between workers regardless of nationality- you can’t have all of one or the other. It DIDN’T work in Yugoslavia, true, because Tito took a completely opposite line. He (and his party) banned ALL expressions of nationalism, which ended up working poorly for them. This is one of the reasons Tito and Stalin split, because Tito opposed expression of any and all national differences. Stalin was from Georgia, a small nation who before the revolution was repressed by Russia and had their culture stamped out by Russian culture, he was big on the national question. Now, it makes sense why Tito took the stance he did, the different Balkan states had a history of attacking each other and they had just come out of World War II, where some Croatians were even more brutal than the Nazis. This is what it looks like when you have STRONG nationalism with NO internationalism. So while we can be sympathetic to Tito looking at his historical conditions, at the end of the day he was wrong

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@@AbueIito Socialism:First man, woman, dog, satelite and station in space. 8 hours of work 8 hours of sleep 8 hours of family time FREE education and Healthcare to stop epidemics and stop people becoming poor No porn,no anal and no oral sex. Strong army and state fighting againts Hitler, Nedić,Pavelić,Musolini,Kvinsling,Horty and so on Unite a world 4 workers Capitalism:rape, genocide,war and oil no real bealife in God. War in Vietnam, Bosnia, Iraq, East Timur, Kambodia, Burma, FR Yugoslavia, Afganistan,Pakistan,Siria and making money in every possible way.

@@ivanrodic8335 Ah yes, Stalin, Mao, and Kim, mhm yes yes, definitely capitalism is the only one that has killed, yeah yeah, definitely didn't took the information from a stupid Twitter communist page, mhmhmhmhmhmhmhmhm, yeaah, i am definitely not living in a pro socialist country with 60% of my people starving to fucking death by those Stalin simps. Conclusion: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/sNt4bL19qt2wdZs.html

Proudhon, Bookchin, Stirner, Goldman, etc: Allow us to introduce ourselves

@@evelynpayne855 Based Rothbard walks into the bar *So, guys...*

@@ferrarkumar1103 And then all of the different Anarchos start fighting and arguing with each other instead of teaming up together against their real enemy: the state.

@@hirshtveria4715 Yeah, just like always, because "reee how do you have private property without State. State is just a tool of capitalism, we don't want neither." FAQ: WHY "ANARCHO"-CAPITALISTS ARE NOT ANARCHISTS!

Murray Rothbard: A Challenger Appears

Simple like this!!! The most underrated economist/philosofer of history.

Oh yes! I would like to see that made in the same spirith as this and Kaynes vs Hayek.

Timothy Hall a book?

@@stevejones8472 a good one. Only has 64 pages, pretty easy to read.

Love that book!

We have different goals. Your goal is equality, while ours is prosperity. If the bottom quintile doubles their average wealth, meanwhile the top quintile triples their average wealth; you would view this as bad because inequality has risen, while we would view this as good because everyone in society has become wealthier. We are in favor of private property not because it results in equal economic outcomes across society, nor because the existence of private property somehow implies that everyone has equal economic opportunities in life; but because profit-contingent private control of industry allows for much more efficient economization of resources than state control of industry. But, of course, you do not self-identify as being in favor of state control of industry. I will address this as follows: Private property is not a "system" or "institution"; it is an observation. Humans exercise ownership of land-this is an observable fact. The term "private property" refers to land in the possession of non-government individuals or groups. If government did not exist, all property would be, by definition, privately owned (and the term "private" would likely not exist in this context, as there would be no need for clarification). The only alternative to private property is state property. There is no third type of property; there is no magic plot of land that is in the possession of humans, yet somehow manages to be owned by neither a state nor non-state individuals. Consider 5 factories: 1) Factory A is owned by one capitalist. The capitalist hires 100 workers, and spends 0 hours per week working in the factory himself. 2) Factory B is owned by 5 capitalists who each hold a 20% share. They hire 95 workers, and in addition each capitalist spends 10 hours every week working in the factory. 3) Factory C is owned by 20 capitalists who each hold a 5% share. They hire 80 workers, and in addition each capitalist spends 20 hours every week working in the factory. 4) Factory D is owned by 90 capitalists who each hold a 1.1% share. They hire 10 workers, and in addition each capitalist spends 35 hours every week working in the factory. 5) Factory E is owned by 100 capitalists who each hold a 1% share. They hire no workers, and each capitalist spends 40 hours every week working in the factory. They do not charge customers money for goods produced. Which of these factories are not privately owned? In response, socialists speak of a mythical "collective property" which is not divisible into shares. They consider "collective property" to be property which is owned by a group, yet somehow each individual within the group is not a part-owner. They acknowledge that each individual is alloted one vote when making property decisions, yet reject the resulting implication that each individual with a vote is indeed a shareholder. The group somehow precedes the individual in the view of socialists. It is unclear how a group can exist in the absence of individuals. It is also unclear how this "collective property" term is anything more than a language game, as it seemingly fails to describe anything tangible.

@@nickgrove3648 Correction, your goal is prosperity for yourself, mine is prosperity for as many as possible.

@@Cyborg_Lenin How'd that work out for the kulaks? As my Rabbi who was a spy in the Soviet Union said. "It was the Evil Empire." So kindly go fuck yourself. Cyborg_Hitler

@@Cyborg_Lenin No, your goal is equality across society, not prosperity. How do I know? Because even though "the poor" today are vastly wealthier than "the poor" of past centuries, you still complain that "capitalism" keeps people in poverty. If you really cared about "the poor", you would ask how and why poverty is lower today than ever before in human history. "Poor" people today have to share one car for a family of 4 or 5; rich people 150 years ago did not have any cars. "Poor" people today have to boil their sink water before drinking it; rich people 200 years ago did not have sink water. "Poor" people today sometimes must forego electric air conditioning; rich people 130 years ago did not have electric air conditioning. I place quotations around "the poor" because there is largely no such social group as "the poor". The bottom quintile in the US is a revolving door, and 10 years from now, 90% of people currently in the bottom quintile will no longer be there. Clearly, you can not accurately complain about "the poor" becoming poorer (though this does not stop you), since each generation of "the poor" enjoys a higher standard of living than the previous generation of "the poor". So what do you complain about? "Rising inequality": the implication being that economic progress made by "the poor" is somehow negated by simultaneous progress by "the rich" (another revolving door category which largely fails to identify an actual group of people in society).

@@nickgrove3648 the "poor" (and I love how you are trying to imply that they aren't actually poor) Are about as poor as they were all over the world accept for the imperial core. You seem to forget that this growth is only subsidized by the expropriation of trillions in labor value and natural resources from the global south. Plus you are confusing capitalism with being rich, despite the fact, that poverty is much closer to what capitalism brings for the majority of the world. Ask someone in a sweatshop how great capitalism is. This divide mind you isn't a natural one. It was created after the first industrial revolution with imperialism and subjugation, and its not kept in place with unfair economic treaties, constant destabilization and the patent gap. This growth in life quality is mostly due to technological advancement not some magical properties of capitalism. Cars just cost much less to produce, central heating and electricity us state owned. Every example you gave is an example of technological advancement, not capitalism. If you want to see what capitalism actually does you can look at the 8 million people that die every year from lack of food and clean water. We have the resources, we have the means, but its just not profitable to feed them is they die. At least when socialists had hunger they just didn't have enough food, as soon as they got it starvation stopped. Now to the "poor are getting richer" argument. No, they just keep raising the poverty to make it look good. Aside from China the poor haven't gotten any richer in 3 decades including America. Remember when your parents could afford a house and a car on one minimum wage income? Well at least now Jeff can afford a billion cars, too bad most Americans can't afford 500$ for an emergency. Finally, capitalism providing some benefits in the past isn't an excuse. Let's do what you love and take us back 300 years. What would you say? "Well feudalism raised our life quality immensely! We used to live in caves and now we have our homes and stable food! How dare you defy our divine ruler!?". Capitlaism played its part, now its time to move on.

There is no argument fore nazisam all right lening ideas shude be remuved

Unfortunately they'll only ever show pro socialist garbage and schools now

@carterghill It seems we're liveing under Globalist socio-fascism. The enemy within is the majority within every demographic(this applies to every allied nation). Here in the United States, we see it with CRTheory, which demonizes a whole sect of society by falsely claiming they're/we're inherently privileged and suppressors. Based off the color of their/our skin. If you're opposed to queer theory being implemented within institutions, you're transphobic/demonized. An unelected group of oligarchies who work in tandem with the permanent political class(that exists within every allied nation). This is why we've watched National Populism sweep across the allied nations, and a new opposing international order within the allied nations is being formed(between national Populists, within each allied nation) This plays into the rise of the western civilization state, and the rise of the civilization state era. We've also watched the faltering of the unipolar international order. A new multipolar international order is rising(comprised of the new civilization states). Which means we have major work and reforms ahead of us. It seems the democrat party is imploding, and can't move forward until they publicly denounce and remove their divisive hatefilled rhetoric and policies. Once they do, they'll reemerge as the new socialist democrat party (with a more of a pro commonwealth/welfare, stance). We're also watching a parallel economy coming to fruition based off of cryptocurrency, and free market capitalism which offers the incentives for innovation in new technology, products, and production processes. The political spectrum we have/had, here in the states has been redrawn and is comparable with Europes. Many scholars would claim the Nazis are leftists. But I, and many others see the Nazis as right wing Fascists. Mussolini and the Black shirts are considered, a left-wing form of Fascism. Just as there's right-wing communists(the Bolsheviks), and left-wing communists(the mensheviks). As for the Republican, Party in the United States. We've reshaped the party into the new National Populist Republigun Party! Here's something I've been thinking: So what happens if the elites use a decentralized technocracy based economy, where the idea of socialism(left) and commonwealth/welfare(some on the right, and the traditional liberals who now fall on the right) merge and the negative aspects of the two ideas can be negated. Negated with open source, blockchain technology? I believe that's plausible, but leave us with at least one major issue, the loss of privacy. The planned economy will be done using our personal data(and other data)with algorithms, cloud computing(including quantum computing), and A.I. This is a very Prophetic scenario, "you'll not be able to buy sale or trade without the mark".

You really shouldnt. The socialist side was very weak in this one.

@@Cyborg_Lenin Agreed yeah this battle was really biased but its easy to see why, it was put on by a thinktank funded by the rich in order to promote free markets.