It's fun that a true finnish person with a super finnish accent is voising the sweden segment Edit: could you make a jet guide for people who are new to jets. Including info about how to use radar, keybinds, enrgy differences and stuff like that

when it comes to the A21A-3, I have to disagree, the plane has CCRP at BR 4.3, which in my opinion is a really useful thing on the GRB where you can deal with enemy SPAA at longer distances

We need a remake of the ground tech tree guides, they are over 2 years old now

somone tell him that you can't jump to the ISRAELI tire 4 from the begining, you must first reach tire 4 in USA or france (or other to) so begginers CAN'T play this tech tree! and you can't "skip" the "sakin", its the first plane...

The finish Buffalo on Tier 2 is absolutely bonkers. Not sure if Gaijin miscalculated the burst load, but it absolutely shreds everything it faces with Ground Strike belts in a single pass (except a few soviet tanks, T-50 especially, russian bias is stronk) with decent AA performance aswell.

quite convenient for me the “copy-paste” mechanics here, since I don’t want to grind multiple, larger trees, and I care little for uniqueness. To me, it’s an easier way to get jets I like from individual nations, namely mirages and American jets. In addition, cool liveries and upgraded modifications

the energy lost is correct on Viggens and Drakens, but Gripen looses a lot less energy in turns.

Sweden and Japan are the most enjoyable nations imo. Most of the vehicles are a bit overtiered, but that is offset by the fact that these nations have the most skilled playerbase. This also leads to a lot of wins and faster grind. It is important to add however, that if you are unable to pull your weight in vehicles from the big 3 nations you shouldn't expect to improve your performance by switching to Sweden/Japan as their vehicles are a bit weaker tier for tier and you will struggle even more to get kills.

It didn't surprise me too much to see that Sweden isn't the most beginner friendly nation. I started the game in june 2023 and Sweden hasbasically been my main since then. Won't lie, the BF-109Gs carried me through props. Its not the worst line, but the being put in a J29F and fighting F-104s is a nightmare for sure. still a great tree tho.

My heart breaks when I hear these bad words about J-21 series. This is a series of planes that I personally love and I make very good K/D with them at ARB. They are as average in theory as Shermans, but in practice they are great vehicles like Shermans. You didn't mention that the J-21A3 has CCRP for bombs in 4.3

When it comes to Israel, it is pretty beginner friendly since you have to grind to tier 4 in USA France or Britain to even access it so you do have the skillls that you need to compete in tier 4

idk man, I had a lot of fun in sweden at all ranks except rank 6

Im new in War Thunder, and I do love playing Swedish line! Thanks for the insight!

I was searching for this video today hahah. Thx man great upload as always

hey i really like the J-21s :(

What an incredible analysis, congratulations! I'm in tier 6 of Swedish fighters and I completely agree, so far I've suffered a lot to be able to advance, I hope the next tier 7 fighters are really good.

Yooo! I've been waiting for this BANGER for so long! I'm looking forward to your next series!

Your videos have been very helpful as I was debating on who to choose next after grinding quite a bit in early jets on Japan. Instant sub. Going to share this channel with my friend he's fairly new. Great work.

Another amazing video by Doger, keep it up man!!

Started War Thunder as a Swedish Main a year ago, currently at 4.0 in both ground and air. Researching PT-76 and T18A

Finally part 5 I still love this series because on yt there arent really good guides in my opinion besides this series on aircraft

Great vid! Just want to let you know that the Isreali tree unlocks only if you get to a rank 4 aircraft in either USA, Britain, or France, so it is not like you are thrown into tier 4 right away.

I've been looking forward to the Israel episode. Thanks, fellas!

Thanks alot! I played the A32A yesterday and it was surprisingly hella fun. With 20min of fuel you can keep the after burner on as long as you want. With it off it turns like a brick, but with WEP it turns surprisingly well for its size o.O Happy new year!

I don't even play WT anymore but I enjoy watching your videos regardless

Yes ive been waiting for this one

My personal gems are the B18B and T18B. The most fun I ever had playing a bomber.. u destroy a base.. and hunt down other bombers/ assist your fighters and land. This thing is so agile that u can kind of dog fight some planes... most of the players underestimate the capability of these planes.

Great video 👍

As an Israeli main, i really needed this thank you!

Now we need the naval nations guides.

I’ve grinded the Swedish tech tree without prem and I can confidently say it’s a solid tech tree and I would take what he says with a grain of salt if your looking into playing a fun and challenging tech tree without prem I highly recommend. for me the best planes are the B239, A21a3 B18 and T18-57 (the t18 57 it’s absolutely bonkers with the 13.2 20mils and a 57mil all in the nose 💀 and is extremely fast with a surprisingly decent turn time for a bomber) J29F and the J35D (the j35d is so fun I put a talisman and made fat stacks) the Viggens are neat and pretty but are a bit of a pain to learn, and I will soon have the Gripen

I still remember when the a21s where op as fuck. They started out at 3.3 or 3.7 as far as i know, and you could almost consistently get ace games in them.

let's go the final part is here

Not mentioned were the Sa'ar and Ayit both carrying shafrir 2s at 9.0 and 9.3 respectively giving both great missiles for their BR!

I really appreciate this summary! I have watched it a few times! suffering through rank 6 has indeed been TERRIBLE! I have done all rank 6 with the J34 and there are no words. Torn between the draken and the viggen for my first Rank 7

Sakeen? More like Sakeen Deez Nutz. I hate that thing lol. (I don't suck, I got plenty of kills with it and spaded it, thing overheats way too easily. You can be at like 92% throttle and still struggle to keep heat down. It has poor handling. It feels like they received the bf109 and just made it worse somehow.)

What I like about the A21s is that their rockets are not on the wings. Makes easy to aim and use for CAS in ground RB.

The advice on Swedish pushers is use them in arcade for tons of fun.

w video keep it up

Finally the nations i main

Nice

It should be noted that the J21RB actually has a faster top speed and better engine than the J21RA, even though the fighter variant needs it the most

For the israeli tech tree i think you also forgot to mention that you first have to get anothers nations plane to get the modified israeli version of it

can't believe he didn't mention the cute little gunpod of the A21RB

“Let me be clear” 😂

4:35 A21 have CCRP, something unique at that br

Greetz and good new year

Having just grinded through rank 2-6 in Sweden during the current event (Air RB), I have to seriously disagree with the J/A-21s being bad. I'm not a particularly good player, but I had a ton of fun playing them and performed well. I could outturn the majority of people and BnZ worked pretty great for me, not to mention that you're basically guaranteed to win every head-on. Their engines are weak, your wings will break if you're too fast and climb rate isn't great, but that's not to the point where I'd ever consider them bad as long as you play to their strengths, at least not at 4.3. The jet variants do suffer a lot more from the weak engine though, so I'd agree that they're definitely worse. Personally, I had the most fun in T3 and T4 so far, even using the A21 for the better part of grinding T5 as I only heard bad things about the A28B/Vampire till I tried it myself and actually liked quite a bit, even though it's overtiered. What I used to grind has been: T1: Fokker D.XXI-3 T2: J22-A T3: J22-B T4: A21A-3 T5: A28B

I'm working on the JA37D right now, my thoughts so far: The SK60B is an SL factory and the only vehicle in the game that I put a talisman on. 4x 1000kg and 2x 500kg will destroy a base plus it gets an air spawn. It takes every pylon to do so but once you have them all free, you're very maneuverable. The 7.7 Tunan is such a babe, takes a while to get up to speed but it's guns are incredible. If you can bait someone to follow you away and into a turn battle, it's an easy shoot down. The twin tailed props and jets are cheeks. You will need to play them but if a single 20mm hits the tail, it's over. I try not to judge early props too much because most early props are so-so. They have competitive and not competitive choices depending on playstyle. My biggest issue with the tree is Rank 7. The needless copy paste for the strike variants and the lack of internal guns and chaff at 10.3 and 11.0 makes them severely crippled by sacrificing pylons for stuff that you should already have. The J35D is overrated, argue with ya mama Please give tracers

as someone who started with the swedish tree and did not use the Finnish tree at all and has researched every plane in the tree I would disagree with many of the thoughts. the A21A has the most ground kills of all of my planes from ground RB. the thing I will agree with is that you want to fight in mostly head-ons. but the whole tree was very fun for me and I would love to grind through it again.

epic

Also, the swedish tech tree is missing many vehicles in the whole timespan, there will be many vehicles added to it time by time

The Ayit is very fun

as a beginner myself im late to this video as im already tier 4 on the swedish tree feels bad man, i really feel like im at a disadvantage with some airplanes , to late to change to another now, ill grind to the top on it before i quit, i hope

Cool

When it comes to the J-21 A it’s not that bad. I can hold my own in fights against a BF-109 and it’s pretty maneuverable.

I m a new player and my first country is Sweeden, atm i m at the first jets

B18/T18 best fighter on the swedish tree :D also i dissagree with the A21/J22, id say the exact opposite to what is said in the video, tho i have to agreee on both speed and agility when talking about the J21, altho I must say that the 21R is quite good and i have gotten quite alot of kills in both, also you forgot to say that the strike versions of the fighters have a changed engien that if opimised for a lower ALT than the fighters. The A32 is really good for ground strike you got both a BC and quite a bit of bombs and rockets plus over 600 rounds of 20mm. You forgot to mention that the finnish vampire can carry bombs. In short i kinda dont agree with the video and it kinda feels like it was rushed and just overlooking all aircrat exept rank 6

Hi! Swedish main here... About A21-A3 is actually different from its fighter A2 and A1 twins: its engine is actually more powerful and it feels more agile. Additionally, its guns are extremely powerful on ap belts - easily one shots anyone, and being slower can actually help in dogfight... Overall, its great attacker as it can flip over its back easily and later get out. But as a fighter, i agree, its still mediocre.

11:25 AIM9p is already an export variant of the AIM9J. Also AIM9M is not rb74J(M) it's rb74(M).

I love you Doger

i got the gripen :D

A21 MEDIOCRE?? It turns so well and has amazing guns! The m/49 rockets have 500mm of HEAT penetration, you can use CCRP wirh the bombs, it's a great little plane when used with it's strengths and weaknesses in mind, namely understanding how to have enemies overshoot you or that overall it's a fragile plane, but you can fly back to base with a missing wing without problems It's a great, you did no justice to it. B18 are also amazing, ESPECIALLY THE T18B WITH 20mm, a 57mm, and a LOT of powerful rockets, all paired with amazing flight performance for such a big plane!

God damn i love your accent

The guns on the Gripen and Viggen have pretty good velocities, almost 1000 m/s for both, they're different than the AKAN 55s, the Viggen guns are unique and the 27 is the BK27 from the tornado. Also despite being a delta canard the gripen has some of the best energy retention at top tier right now for some reason. Gaijin said JAS39C next patch so probably will get RB99. Unfortunately as it stands right now I'd say its one of the weakest trees in the game except for the Gripen.

I don't agree with the A-4H in airrb, it can absolutely decimate in downtiers when you load a single gun pod. I used it to grind the entirety of tier 7 by bringing 4 firebombs and a gun pod. It can seriously switch from bombing to fighting after you destroy a base. Uptiers can get tough when faced with afterburners, but its vertical energy retention is absolutely bonkers when in downtiers.

Your english accent really interested

I love your content. I would like to see more content. Tho, i think you should upload more often. then you would get more views and to be honest. money

You didnt diss the sakeen enough

It feels like you have the J22 and J21 reversed in this guide. The former is one of the worst fighters at 3.0, while the latter (while still over BR'ed) is an actually usable fighter with at least some advantages it can pull out against other fighters.

Is the j21 bad? My experience playing it was awesome, one of the best airplanes I've had

Me who just started playing swedes: "well, that explains a lot" idk, I have fun playing that country, and knowing it's pretty mid statwise makes me realize the game can be way funnier (I'm still rank 4)

that was good english coming from a finnish person

as a sweden main, i must agree with most of this video, except the late props being "bad". if used correctly, some planes are devastating, but early jets are well.... shit

Will you ever redo the ground guide?

I'll have to call BS on the Swedish props. J22 handles bad while the J21 is better. And the J26 is more agile than the 109.

you will find it hard to believe but the israeli ouragan is almost as compatible as the mig15bis, i have a lot of games on it. 4kd. amazing plane. if you dony like meteors its a good option, after that the A4H is probably gonna be the best plane at rank VI because the french is really bad.

Almost a year too late, i had to struggle, and i mean absolutely suffer through Sweden to get jets. And i started when i was a new player. Now i moved on to China and just bought the F-86F-30 and i now suffer from the worst MM in history. 8.7 vs 9.3 - 9.7 like wtf (edit: the F-30 if you dont remember, has zero missiles and zero flares fighting against jets with IR missiles and flares)

Doesnt the saab 105 get a ballistic computer for bombs ?

But I also have a lot of read watch done in us uk germany and Soviet

SK60 is awesome for CAS, the two guided missiles are the lowest br agms in the game and are two guaranteed kills, plus 8 500mm pen rockets that you can easily get another couple kills with once you get used to them. Also, "just use the gripen instead of the attacker viggens makes no sense, as there is 2.0 BR difference between them. Yeah they're awful, but explain why they're awful instead of just saying another plane is better

1:53 i object. J20's engine, turnrate and cooling leave you wishing for anything other than this disgusting hellspawn, but the 13.2 mm gun and two 8mm's make a difference, the damage is insane. J20 can not dogfight with biplanes, and can barely destroy something of its br. The thing it's good at is taking out bombers, strike aircraft (IL2) and sometimes you get a kill when someone you're fighting is skill issued enough that your shitty aerodynamics start helping you with losing speed

I’m a Sweden player

Shout out to dyfen for the decal 11:42

J21 series bad at turning? what are you on

You can’t jump straight to Israeli props you have to get a tier IV prop in America or Britain great video tho

Hieno video!/ Nice video?

What is the Finnish man’s KZfaq channel. I can’t find it?

Fucking finally

Naval nations when?

Ratshit i started with Sweden, probably a month orso in rank 7 now. What should i go with mext

The J29A is the worst plane i have played in the game by far. It literally does everything like shit. It does nothing well. Any other plane at its BR shits on it in every aspect.

Sweden and its just that

SK-60 is fun, just me though?

Grippen is spelled with dubble p cuz only then u can be grippen deez nutz

How dare you call the mommy meteor F.8 bad

HEY the A32A is the ONLY swedish jet designed to be a groundattacker and I think Its really good at it. So yeah that description was bullshit

Helloooo

poggers

SAAB 21 best plane edit: :O i can't believe he said that, he clearly does not know what he's saying