2010 youtube recommend in 2019

Why did I get recommended this 9 years after it was posted? Why is this getting so much attention?

Why is everyone here just now even though this is from 10 years ago

As mentioned at the end of the report, Delta merged with Northwest and suddenly had too many hubs too close together. (Minneapolis, Detroit, Cincinnati) They had to get rid of one, and CVG was the one.

Why is this in my recommended Get this 9 Years old!!

The Delta-Northwest merger was the Big Nail in the Coffin for CVG. Why continue with a hub at CVG when you have two larger, stronger Hubs in DTW and MSP so close by.

I think thanos has something to do with this

I neither live in Cincinnati/N Kentucky nor is it still 2010. Why was this top of my recommended?

Update: It looks like the decline has reversed somewhat. Delta downsizing its hub operations there actually brought back local travelers, as they said almost a decade ago, and Frontier has made it a "focus city". CVG is also one of America's busiest cargo airports. Terminals 1 and 2 have been demolished, though. TLDR: CVG may not retain its former ambitious glory, but it's carved out an important regional niche for itself. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cincinnati/Northern_Kentucky_International_Airport#Recent_history

I guess youtube recommendations have brought us all back together again

who saw this video and didn't notice the date

Excuse me KZfaq? Why am I being recommended this now on December 20th 2019?

Looking a Google maps One of the empty terminal was torn down

10 years later this airport is doing fine. Amazon prime is now using this airport as a facility

I worked as a CVG based Airline Flight Attendant for Comair. Myself and many other Comair Flight Attendants were "displaced" from CVG to JFK, in early 2007. I left Comair in early February, 2007. In April, 2007, I was invited to attend the Initial Flight Attendant with Chautauqua Airlines. At that point, we flew many Delta Connection flights out of CVG. However, in early 2009, our base in CVG closed. Yes, Concourse C, became a ghost town. I enjoyed working with Comair. But it was so sad to see CVG lose hundreds of flights, and many CVG employees laid off.

From Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport (CVG) "CVG... • is the lowest fare airport in the region as ranked by the U.S. Department of Transportation. • has nonstop service to 39 of the top 40 U.S. markets. • has 180 peak-day flights to 61 nonstop airport destinations (July 2018). • has more nonstop flights than any other airport in the Tri-State (Ohio, Kentucky and Indiana) region. • is the only airport in Ohio and Kentucky with nonstop transoceanic service, serving Paris, France nonstop on a year-round operation. • is the 8th largest cargo airport in North America. • is home to DHL's North American hub and Amazon's first global air hub supporting a fleet of 100+ Prime Air planes. • is recognized globally as a leading U.S. airport by SkyTrax World Airport Awards." Eight years later, it appears CVG has survived and prospered.

An old video with old news. American did the same thing to St. Louis when they bought TWA in the early 2000’s.

STL went through the same issue, when AA bought out TWA, STL was still going to be used as a hub with a new 9000 foot runway added to accommodate the higher traffic rate. Two tears after AA committed to STL, they pulled flights and decreased their ops there, lots of money spent on them just to have them pull up stakes and leave a shell of what STL used to see.

Delta abandoning CVG as a hub was one of the best things to happen for consumers. Low cost carriers now can fly out of CVG without fear of Delta undercutting them out of business.

How did this show up in my recommendations?

Nice to see massive changes have happened since this. Now rated the 26th best airport in the world. Thank god delta allow competition.

Delta always wanted Detroit as a hub I knew this was going to happen after they took over northwest

Terribly sad, similar to what the folks in PIT have had to deal with. It hurts twice as the costs have to be divided up among the remaining airlines and flights making it too expensive for new entrants. As I recall the landing fees and rents at PIT are among the most expensive in the US. The mess at CVG has kept SLC from touching their no-amenity, museum to 1970s aviation.

I used to work there when they had the abanded part i work there there for 6 years they tore the abanded part down now they just maded out of a big land space for the the planes to land and take off and this airport have a lot of paranormal activity to built on top of a old cemetery

is youtube just trying to distract us from how bad youtube rewind 2019 was?

Ohio really needs to have flights between CVG, DAY, CMH, and CLE. It makes no sense to fly all the way to IAH or ATL just to fly to another city within the state. Also, the city needs to work with the airport to facilitate more interest for international carriers.

“This place use to be home to 10,000 people, now it is a ghost time.”

Nobody: 99% of everyone else in the comments: “why is this just now being recommended 10 years later?”

According to Wikipedia it is the fastest growing cargo airport in North America and WOW Air will offer flights to Reykjavik in the future.

Just found this video, JEEZZZE, relocated to the EU for work and departed with Delta in 06 from CVG. Sad to see that Delta has basically pulled out! This place was so darn busy the many times I went transatlantic before moving, it reminds me of all the dead malls across the country. So busy with work that it was about a week ago I learned that Gander Mountain Sports was going under or had already closed. Was also sad to hear that another northwest Ohio company closed all of its stores, no more Anderson's General Stores.

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Maybe make it so people actually want to travel to Cincishatty

Same as Memphis

hate the comments that say why was this recommended in 2019 even though it was posted in 2010

delta could sublet C, the airlines that use C would pay a split cost, half would go to the airport the other half to Delta

They could have a flight school there. That could be a good use of the runways at CVG.

I used to go out of my way to fly Delta through CVG. I'd stop at Gold Star Chili in terminal B and get a couple cheese coneys. Anything to avoid the run through ATL "A-1 to E-17 and you have 15 minutes." But I wouldn't go out of my way to fly Comair with their "We'll take off if we feel like it." attitude. CRJ50's? No thanks.

Thank you federal government for going ahead with the terriable Delta Northwest merger. I knew it was always a bad idea there was nothing good about it didn't matter which way you looked at it.

In 2017, CVG is okay and still busy especially now that Amazon's Prime Air is there. It's funny how people freak out over a travel slow down. This all happened during the recession.

2020 anyone?

Welcome to another episode of why is this on my recommended.

idk why but i don't watch planes and i got recommended this

Update: Effective November 2019 Delta named CVG its 6th crew base for its Endeavor Air jets. This video is old and my message updates it.

Depressing, but that’s business. Adjust, or die.

This also happened to Memphis airport, my dad used to fly direct to Amsterdam all the time for work on klm’s daily flights and traveling through the airport you can’t even imagine having thousands of people through the airport a day

This also happened to Memphis (NWA Op), Milwaukee (NWA Op), Pittsburgh (USA Hub) and St. Louis (TWA/AA Hub). A result of too many mergers and acquisitions. This is the unfortunate side effect of unchecked crony capitalism and airline deregulation doing the exact opposite of what it was supposed to do. Offer more consumer choice and service. Look how many major legacy carriers this country has lost due to the aforementioned processes, that which in my opinion rapidly accelerated the downfall of mainline service between hub and non-hub city pairs from major airlines now flown by the so called "regional jet" or outright eliminated like CVG. Originally 30-40 seaters 15-20 years ago have now grown to near 100 seat small-big planes (large RJs) as opposed to the large-small planes (shrunken large A/C) of yesteryear. Now the airlines are in this awkward in between of an "RJ" and "mainline". Also mainline airplanes are a 1/3 smaller than their equivalents from a generation ago, and in some cases half smaller covered by 2-3x the flights - but between hubs only. Large airplanes would fly between the hubs and int'l non-stops, freeing up hundreds of 90-150 seat airplanes for each major carrier to fly to minor cities and central regional airports with mainline jet service. Decades ago you'd see nothing but mainline jet service to small US cities and large towns/central regionals where nothing but RJs fly today if at all. The props have been largely retired but the decline of large widebody planes and mainline jet service to just about every sizable US airport in the country before and in the succeeding 20-25 or so years after deregulation in 1978 has been sad to see. 9/11 was also a huge nail in the coffin for mainline jet service to smaller cities and many more mergers and bankruptcies ensued. M&As have also affected and hurt the competition in the aircraft maker market as well and there is less competition and incentive to change the status quo. Eliminating more comfortable widebody airplanes, and continue stretching single aisle airplanes and RJs into oblivion. Sure some ULCCs and LCCs have sprung up as a result of the cannibalizations of M&As and bankruptcies, but those just somewhat filled a void left by something that was there previously. It still pales in comparison to the amount of direct flights many of these mid-size cities used to have.

Indianapolis airport never had this problem because we were never major hub for any airline. Few people ever have a connecting flight there because of that. It's a tiny airport only serving local Indiana folks and probably always will be. CVG has five times the gates than Indianapolis ever did and look what happened. If you pin your hopes on being a hub type airport ( counting on one single airline to stay ) and staying that way, look what happens. CVG was overblown from the start but at least they had a few good years.

My main airport is CVG, I always fly out of it (Look at my trip reports for verification) Today, my home airport of CVG still hasn't changed. The CVG-CDG flight is still it's only transatlantic one, all of its expansion is going to cargo flights and not commercial ones. I've even started to avoid the CDG flight because Paris is such a pain to connect through, and I normally resort to flying to other hubs (ATL, JFK, DTW). I really hope that this can all turn around soon, it's been years that I've been hoping for it to return to its previous state. I blame this decline to Delta's merge with Northwest, as they screwed everything up with that.

Stupid statistics: 80% used to be pass-through versus 50% “today”, how has total NUMBERS of passengers changed?

Hey WCPO, a follow up to this story 9 years later would be nice. I know they closed/demolished a terminal and rebuilt another. I also remember a few years ago the Delta death grip was released and some smaller regional airlines were allowed to move in. CVG will never see anything close to the glory days of the 80s and 90s, but I think it has come a long way from being a depressing sight.

Even at the time of this video, nobody knew A380 was going to flop, there would be a huge move to fuel efficient aircraft, and airlines are moving more to the point-to-point model. Going through a hub is often a deal-breaker for me. And sorry, I'm never going to visit Cincinnati unless forced to by work.

It's mainly a cargo airport now. One of the largest in the region.

Me: Let's check out my KZfaq feed. KZfaq: Ghost town airport from 9 years ago...

Not sure why this was recommended now but ok lol

...similar to what happened to MKE after Delta acquired Northwest. The E concourse, that first served North Central and later Northwest (formerly the B Concourse which was completed in the early 1970s) was not only closed after the merger, but is in the process of being demolished. I remember the original master plan was for a five concourse symmetric terminal (including an international arrival area) with capability of handling widebody aircraft (sadly I can find no illustration online of what the terminal would have looked like, all I can say, it was pretty impressive). Like CVG for Delta, MKE was a secondary hub for Northwest which was served by DC-10s, 757s and even 747s. However since the consolidation MKE is also now primarily served by RJs as well, with the only larger passenger aircraft being 737s, and an occasional MD-82, A320, A321 or 757. The only widebody aircraft that regularly appear there today are bulk package freighters for DHL. FedEx, and UPS and occasionally an AN-124 for handling large machine parts and prefab constructions to overseas customers.

Dude coming up with puns left and right

This is a great piece.

Absolutely knew this was going to be CVG. Luckily they've pivoted towards many low cost airlines and they're doing well. The issue was that after Delta pulled out, they had made all these upgrades and were still on the hook for paying for them so the additional cost per ticket to/from CVG was really expensive. Low cost flights focused on nearby airports like Dayton. For a while CVG was one of the most expensive airports in the nation. Thanks to Frontier and Allegiant it's back to normal.

Turn it into a homeless shelter

Memphis suffered a similar fate after the Delta/NWA merger. Perhaps not as severe as Cincinnati.

I hope someone turned off the water connection....the "dripping faucet" is unnerving.

Well, budget airlines have taken over CVG

It’s really sad too see stuff like this. Unfortunately I saw this too at Pittsburgh international airport. A lot of abandoned gates where US airways used too be a major hub.

My home airport, I go there many times and isn’t to bad but CVG has added airlines!

Strange that this was recommended to everyone. Used to live in NKY. My family was affected first hand by businesses leaving the airport.

American did the same to Saint Louis. I remember when STL was a major hub, but now it's nothing more than a spoke.

So get more companies to fly there.... sheez

It’s nice that CVG is bustling again 8 years later. And delta still has a bustling concourse. And that the empty concourses now have Allegiant Airlines, Frontier Airlines, and air canada.

nobody : youtube ..i love this clip from 10 years ago here u go

how many passengers was that airport handling every year at it's peak?

Most mergers do not relate to happy employees. Airlines are ruthless & loyalty means nothing to these entities.

Did CVG bought the search results and leading audiences gathering together in here?

In 2020, every online package I get goes through CVG. I am in Indiana. It would seem that the airport replaced people with cargo and are doing very well now.

Kills me how hostile they were towards delta for making a business decision that made sense for them and their customers lol.

Interesting algorithm recommendation. True story - I spent weeks designing traffic for this airport in X-Plane 11. I thought this video got recommended because of that but looking at the other comments I guess not.

Endeavor opened up a crew base here a few months back which will have more Delta Connection flights

My grandkid just got a toy sloth that says "hey....what's up", it just met my hammer

I wanted to tell an airplane joke but it might be way over your head

why in my recommendations KZfaq you better fix this

Somebody got fired

I live in Cincinnati and I it wasn’t that ba- hold up I saw another person who is not dead

Im from Cincy...why am i getting this in my recommends circa 2020?

Proctor and Gamble was the sole corporate customer in Cincinnati. It's why they still have a flight to Paris. The rest of the flights were killed off by oil spikes. You can't fly connecting passengers through an RJ hub with $100 oil.

The way the reporter so venomously says “Delta” over & over. Calm down queen

OMG I used to fly Delta from CVG what happened ??? This is so sad for people who had jobs here. Delta is now merged with our UK Virgin Atlantic???

Literally was just telling someone today about this lol

The REAL KZfaq Rewind

When Delta merged with Northwest, the had one hub to many. They opted for Detroit. Sad but true. CVG was a major connection point at one time.

Why Did this get recommended?

Delta left DFW too, I don't see them complaining. Airlines will use the hubs that make sense economically. The airlines are a for-profit enterprise, unlike many of the foreign airlines.

Is the airport okay now? Sorry I don't live anywhere near there

Cool intro with the planes disappearing. Eerie.

Memphis International Airport is the same way. Literally only FedEx cargo flights keep it afloat at this point

They’re not a hub if they’re not getting flights like they used to

Did the situation there get any better?

Lower ticket costs and fill those seats dippy... Costs to much to fly and you are not even guaranteed a seat. Lowering prices and showing some Honor will fix it...

They can at least give us an update. Is CVG any better off now?

Why am I watching this 10 years later

Well, because of the Delta-Northwest merger, Delta had three big hubs (MSP, DTW, and CVG) all really close together. They had to get rid of one of them. Since MSP and DTW were huge Northwest hubs, when Delta acquired them they brought in a lot of passengers, much more than CVG. With CVG being the least busiest of those three airports, Delta had to leave. It’s just not economically smart to have three big hubs in such a close vicinity. Anyways, today CVG is a very successful airport. It gets a lot of revenue through many cargo airlines such as Prime Air, DHL, Altas Air, Southern Air, Kalitta Air, ABX Air, Polar, etc. It’s is also receiving a lot of traffic through domestic travel with regional jets. Delta has a lot of domestic flights through CVG.

CVG only became a hub, because O'Hare got so congested in the 80s and 90s. Delta built a 10-gate concourse at ORD about the same time United built it's new terminal and American added gates in its concourses. Delta went from flying to a number of southern destinations to ATL, CVG, SLC, and JFK, while the CVG hub was created. What airlines have learned the hard way is that a hub airport has to generate a fair amount of O&D traffic. That's why Chicago, Dallas, Houston, Los Angeles, Miami, and New York have hubs, and Cinci, St. Louis, Dayton, Memphis, Nashville, Raleigh-Durham, and Pittsburgh have lost their hubs.