Airsoft Gas - All you need to know!

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7 ай бұрын

In Airsoft, many different versions of gas can be used. In this video, Josef will explain the differences and the key factors for choosing the correct gas.
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@smol_hornet613 7 ай бұрын

This is a really good 10-minute info-dump that I wish existed earlier. If players know more about this stuff, maybe gbbs won't be so scary anymore.

@MagicKnivesGaming 7 ай бұрын

You forgot to talk about using pure propane, some will say it has higher pressure and even provides more fps for your gbb compared to regular green gas, however in my personal experience, even though propane is slightly more powerful, it doesn’t seem to hold gas efficiently through the whole mag compared to the Crossfire green gas I use in my area. You may have to experiment with different green gas cans along with pure propane to decide which one is best for you

@smol_hornet613 7 ай бұрын

As for power, I'd say he covered it pretty well. Whether or not pure propane is stronger doesn't really matter, because an airsoft gun is built for a specific pressure and if you exceed that pressure by too much it'll just break. Besides, pressure is all in the PSI. So, if they mark the PSI, there you have it. That being said, the additives in green gas does of course make some difference. What difference? Only one way to find out, really.

@Boris_The_Turtle 7 ай бұрын

I personally use propane on my secondary. In terms of power there isn’t any noticeable difference. Though I will say propane is much better than Green Gas due to cost. Green gas is literally just propane mixed with silicone oil sold to you in much smaller and more fragile containers for a much higher price. Getting a 4 pack of camping propane containers, an airsoft adapter, and some silicone oil cost me about the same price of 2-3 cans of Green Gas.

@frazhussain2211 7 ай бұрын

People would tell me Green gas and propane was the same but I always found the propane shot harder for some reason. Only issue was the offensive smell. You can also buy a large propane tank and reload the camping cans several times over. A good option if you have the space and want to stick to gbb guns without hpa.

@JosefMucha100 6 ай бұрын

recently I tested the pressure on clean propane from 25l bottle and it is actually weaker. Here I some notes I sent to my friends: As much as I hate to say this, propane is only 100 PSI which is surprising even to me. MAPP Pro clocked in at 115PSI which is also not much considering it's been known to work at lower temperatures well. This might be due to different substances inside that make it evaporate in cold better. For reference: Nimrod Blue 116 PSI, Green 145 PSI, Red 174 PSI, Black 203 PSI Nonetheless, Propane is a fraction of the cost and it works in the summer very well. I am sticking with my propane whenever it's warm enough to use it.

@Spasoje87 6 ай бұрын

For years I play only gbbr So this is how I play Pure propan in summer Mapp gas for temperature between 5-10°C (gas for welding copper pipes) and R32 eco gas for temperatures From -15°C to 5°C (R32 is gas for new air-conditions) But two years ago it is cold in morning (about 0°C) so I go with R32 eco gas, but few hours later temperature is something like 18-20°C and my Bolt broke because of strong pressure.

@Entity-Mal0 7 ай бұрын

Thanks for your great video, it helps a lot as i was wondering about the different types.

@VTObi4z 5 ай бұрын

Your so good at explaining things Josef! I think I watch more of ur vids then vids with Novritsch 😂

@Decarabian_Star_ 6 ай бұрын

Thank you, as I mainly play at night and with objectives instead of death match, I favor using my pistol, every tip for maintenance, to type of gases are extremely useful. Now I know I should get extra mags, and what type of gas I should use to avoid damaging and choking my equipment!

@SethAbercromby 6 ай бұрын

I've been using blue gas for indoor shooting mostly out of an overabundance of caution for my GBB. Didn't have any particular misfires, but looking at the recommended temps it's pretty much meant for peak summer season, like 30°C+. I'll probably switch to green gas next time I need to get some new supplies.

@aggr0mat144 6 ай бұрын

Also make sure to clean your barrel from the bucking to the barrel exit, not like he does at 3:05. The most dirt is at the barrel exit (because this is the part that is most exposed to weather/vegetation), so if you clean it like he does at 3:05, you will probably push the dirt into the gun/bucking and fucking it up aswell. Also make sure to store your magazines at home with a little bit of green gas (like a 1-second-filling) in it 👍

@ONTARGETAirsoft 7 ай бұрын

thanks this is SUPER helpful

@UltimateFalk 7 ай бұрын

Another small Tip: Make sure to release excess Gas after Games from your Magazines, while mounted in a Replica. Just pressing the pressure Valve outside one increases the strain on the single Mag output point, while the Mag being mounted and shot empty distributes the strain more evenly.

@BlunderBob 7 ай бұрын

This is just so unnecessary. You always want to leave gas in your mags.

@UltimateFalk 7 ай бұрын

@@BlunderBob Very true in most cases. As said in the Video tho, using Blackgas in Cold scenarios, and storing the full mags at room temperature after a game can cause issues.

@sogerc1 5 ай бұрын

@@UltimateFalk I have a WE 416 optimized for winter, it's mags have been holding black gas throughout the whole year waiting for the next winter to arrive, none of them leak. I should add that my room is fairly air conditioned, the temp never exceeds 28 - 29 C, in a trunk during summer they would probably blow up, but this pressure thing is not such a big issue as people think. My mags are not full of gas, just the gas which remained after shooting the whole mag at the last game and when the temp increases I presume just more of the gas liquifies.

@johannesmattsson6918 7 ай бұрын

amazing advice keep up the good work hi from sweden

@anderscu12 7 ай бұрын

This video is super good, sad a bit it didn't exist half an year earlier, learned about this the hard way, by loosing 2 ssx23 mags to pressure(left them in the drawer for a few weeks with nimrod black still inside, while it was summer).

@ClimateYT 7 ай бұрын

Damn, unlucky bro, atleast at the beginning of my journey i wont have to worry about gas, ill be running the ssr4 and sse18

@danielbackovsky 7 ай бұрын

Great video Josef❤

@redwolfalpha4658 2 ай бұрын

Great video ty

@brorjordas1979 3 ай бұрын

Great video! I think I only had heard of green and red until this... Yea. I'm more of a co2 replica airgunner myself - and thus not much deeper info into airsoft. Only own a red bottle of Swiss Arms gas for my only airsoft gas pistol, which is an ASG CZ P-09 (came with one gas mag, but I bought a co2 mag also due it being the compatible metal slide version). The P-09 ran well with the SA gas, even rhough I dunno if the all red colored can even has anything to do with the actual gas type..

@ReboyGTR 14 күн бұрын

*Summer: Green Gas + Red Gas* *Winter: Red Gas + Black Gas* *Conclusion: Use Red Gas all year round because you always bring it with you. It's the middle ground between power and putting stress on the internals.*

@tokiokai4510 7 ай бұрын

i always use black gas, no matter what, i dont do it for the power, but the recoil is way better at such pressure, ofc not every gun can handle that much of pressure, SCR TT-33 broke on first mag, but EC glock 19 gen 3 is literally unbreakable, so thats good to mention that every gun is specific about what gas it can take

@subsyairsoft 2 күн бұрын

Hi Joseph, can you think about a video to explain more details about CO2 in terms of valves and most importantly perhaps, the different o-rings and any different maintenance to keep them running well? I continually struggle with this and finding CO2 replacement valves for pistols and grenade launcher 40mm shells is really difficult, or has been! Have you guys at Novritsch got go to ideas and products for this? You make and sell the stuff, certainly for pistols so can you share your insights! Thanks Joseph

@spectreplaysz 7 ай бұрын

IS there a change that the v2 ssp18 mags are coming back?

@Bsbsbg 3 ай бұрын

Can I counter the magazine gas cooldown effect by hearing up the magazine with a blow dryer? I mainly use it at home for some target shooting practice

@MKAnr1 6 ай бұрын

nice video. However, I don't think you can use psi for much on many of the brands. They do not describe at what temperature they are measured and that is quite important. Some do, e.g. ASG here there is info directly on the bottle, where a graph has been made with temperature / psi.

@sleepyboar3251 7 ай бұрын

wheres the link to the other video. please D: !!

@Ebbelitos2309 12 күн бұрын

Is blue gas good if i want a gun to last for long? I’m gonna try air soft soon and maybe buying a gbb pistol

@martinmydliar851 7 ай бұрын

I bought the ssp5 and the short tracer I can’t seem to screw it on what do I need to buy for it to connect them and what’s the size of it

@cosmicmousse 5 ай бұрын

Slight correction on why magazines get cold. It's not an endothermic reaction as there's no chemical reaction taking place. Pressure and temperature are related, meaning that as the pressure decreases the temperature also decreases.

@XVEN_69 21 күн бұрын

so if i want just one gas for the summer and the winter i should use red gas or Co2 right?

@Just.j.airsoft 3 ай бұрын

Thank you need to know being new to gas mags

@user-vq2dj5dk5h 3 ай бұрын

Which gas has stronger kick, Nuprol 2.0 black gas or Vorsk v12 gas

@evandarji9365 6 ай бұрын

I live in the US and I have never heard of any of these besides green gas, so are these sold In the US?

@maikou6843 7 ай бұрын

This video was very helpful becouse finland has hot summers (20 - 30°C) and very cold winters (-10 - -30°C)

@Rasyad95 7 ай бұрын

Hot summer is mid 20s... I wish my summer were that cold

@NightclubPegasus1 5 ай бұрын

One question I have, why are we using propane specifically?

@fixlix3135 7 ай бұрын

Perfect timing 😂

@Maltebyte2 2 ай бұрын

Does it not matter if your magazine obviously shakes around alot when running and stuff?

@zepstreamer 7 ай бұрын

This is super helpful. I just have one question: Does most of this also apply to a non GBB pistol?

@JosefMucha100 6 ай бұрын

Mostly yes. with nonGBB you should use even weaker gases on average as that gives you better results. There is no need for extra power to cycle the slide.

@MrGoogle87 7 ай бұрын

I have the early ssp-1 and this was suitable for summer… While now they say something different 🤷🏼‍♂️ok…

@darthtyranus378 7 ай бұрын

hi! i'm looking for some green, red and glack gas without silicone oil, which brand do you personally use/recommend?

@MKAnr1 6 ай бұрын

I don't know any brands that do it all without silicone, especially black gas. But ASG gas Orange (a mixture between red and green i think) and red gas. Swiss Arms makes gren and red. I pretty much only use red and up in my GBBR weapons, I don't see any problems with it.

@juanochoa5970 5 күн бұрын

So if I put too much gas it will start leaking?

@Ishlol1 5 ай бұрын

To make things more confusing, many brands that state PSI doesn’t say anything about at what temperature… You can have two bottles from different manufacturers both stating 135 PSI, but their actual power is much different as one is ‘measured at 20C, and the other is ‘measured at 30C’… Neither bottle is lying, but at the same time, the PSI is practically a useless number without a temperature. ASG Put temperature on the PSI rating on their bottles last year - Hopefully the competitors will follow suit 😅

@facilityguardryan8561 6 ай бұрын

I don't know why did I watch this as a CO2 revolver user

@HarveyWatts06 5 ай бұрын

If I put a metal slide on my TM hi capa will I need to upgrade to red gas?

@HamFlare_Vintage 4 ай бұрын

Hell no, red gas is gonna destroy the internals. If you have Tokyo Marui airsoft then you should only use blue gas and green gas. I had umarex glock with metal slide and internals, and even tho it was "red gas rated" it literally wrecked the gun...

@zeanyt2372 6 ай бұрын

I come from a different hobby that uses 40Max 40mm green gas shells. Is there a good way to reach them with hpa?

@peaceandwealthseeker4504 Ай бұрын

What other hobby uses those?

@zeanyt2372 Ай бұрын

@@peaceandwealthseeker4504well, I'm a hobby grade Nerf enthusiast. (Hobby has lots of pros and few cons over other competitive Non-Lethal shooting sports.) We've made 3D printed shells that fit to the front of the engines; to retrofit them to fire basically every foam projectile I know of. I also won't to be surprised if paintball hasn't done something similar.

@peaceandwealthseeker4504 Ай бұрын

@@zeanyt2372 that's awesome and yeah I've seen the rise of nerf guns which is very cool. I assumed paintball which is why I was so curious.

@sheepmasterrace 5 ай бұрын

I wish the NOV store carried dry gas, sillcone oil is sort of a gimmick

@Birb_of_Judge 7 ай бұрын

Honestly, i perfer co2 over any of the regular gases (green, blue or red gas). It's pretty sad that the new SSPs aren't "safe" with CO2 above 14°C

@lukastactic2901 7 ай бұрын

did they change something about them? i bought the ssp18 around the time it was released and back then they mentioned nothing about not using CO2 at higher temperatures and i still run it only on CO2 because of the nice kick and haven´t had a single breakdown or malfunction even in 30°C summer heat :) maybe its just for warranty reasons.

@Birb_of_Judge 6 ай бұрын

@@lukastactic2901 well, I would hope it's just that

@Vo_d_kontra_o_norMAL 26 күн бұрын

There'is a video talking exactly the same thing about this but for revólvers ?

@rosl.1048 6 ай бұрын

Is it safe to mix green and red gas? Or you need to fully release one before filling the mag with the other one.

@HeavyRecoilClub 5 ай бұрын

Yes it is totally safe

@sogerc1 5 ай бұрын

As HRC said it's totally safe but you should know they dilute each other leaving you with some head scratches in some cases. For ex one of your mags had a little too much red gas remaining and you set up your hopup with that and then the next mag will behave differently. Also, going the other way, maybe one mag had a little too much green gas remaining and the temp gets lower and your gun doesn't want to function even though you think you already switched to red gas. So you know, you have to keep all this in mind.

@rosl.1048 5 ай бұрын

@@sogerc1 Got it, many thanks!

@RB_Camo 4 ай бұрын

will my m4 RIS still work without green gas?

@admiralrng6506 3 ай бұрын

if its battery powered yes it would work without green gas if its gas powered... eh no lol

@shiizo1983 4 ай бұрын

Thought the SSP5 is meant to run on CO2. My SSP5 6" just "died" on me because the screw and the threat of where the rear sight is, got lose. Very disappointed. I just got the gun around Jan 10 2024 -.-'

@Red____1 7 ай бұрын

First. Love your work man

@animace666 Ай бұрын

I just wanted to know, if it is hard to use or it can do a beginner like me, not to explode my brain 😭

@valentinbarinov 11 күн бұрын

After this video, I'm sticking to aegs...

@littlehuub 7 ай бұрын

Ugh don't use lubed gas in gbb replicas, this will mess with your bucking effectiveness. Because the green gas is mixed with silicone oil it will spray into your hopup + bucking you really don't want that because a bucking works on the concept of friction. Swiss Arms makes cans without lube in it, or you can buy a propane adapter so you can use propane bottles. (green gas is basically propane with silicone oil) Just get a valve key and lube the o rings yourself.

@EXDna 6 ай бұрын

You're right, the oiling in general needs to be moderate where green gas soaks everything.. Silicone oil also causes swelling and softening of polyurethane and rubber used in buckings, seals, and o-rings, over time.. It's good to prevent dry rot, but not good in excess. There's always people who keep things clean, and those who don't..

@teatimeboy3240 5 ай бұрын

Just use co2. Even in summer

@GnohmPolaeon.B.OniShartz 7 ай бұрын

Use CO2 when you can. All the gases suck in the cold but C02 remains most consistent. Also, for some reason Green Gas Fill Valves suck you never really know when or how its going to fail but they constantly fail and with Co2 you plug and go, the canister is already charged and calibrated with fewer moving parts. Green Gas Variants are best for their cost. Use it in grenades and sprayers where you just need a big PUSH but dont much care for consistency. Frankly? Invest in a used HPA Regulator because virtually all Gas Fill blasters can convert to HPA for pocket change and most Hi Cappa and HPA shops will do the install for you because its dummy easy.

@GnohmPolaeon.B.OniShartz 7 ай бұрын

My buddy does this as a Hobby. He only wanted his HPA to run an MG Platform so to feel better he converts junker pistols to HPA. Its usually just a screw in valve swap. They say, "Tapping". One of his "Junkers" is so effective in HPA that he doesn't run it at smaller fields and especially not at small fields against kids because I've watched him hold down a 12 man team with a glockenspiel, essentially.