Correction to something I mentioned in the video. You are now able to customize the color of the Xbox button light on console as well as PC, not just PC. That's pretty cool!

Your humor, clear extensive Knowledge by first hand experience, in depth and informative reviews are the best produced and highest quality reviews I’ve seen. You are the OptimumTech of controllers.

My favorite part of your videos you do is when you say Molly-Wappin! That's one word that always finds a way into a GH video! 💜💜

Excellent work as always can't wait for the tear down video

My elite 1 got horrible drift inside of 6 months, thanks to this channel I discovered and then purchased the thrust master, had it for around 6 months, and the only problems I have with it is software suite is bad feeling, the trigger locks only do full and half pulls and worst of all I routinely have to reload my presets onto my profiles, it’s pretty aggravating, but after all that noise it’s amazing. P.S. the rear button design could be better but I have normal American hands and I’ve become accustomed.

Loved the intro edits on this video. That controller housing looks like its made of the same plastic as a 360 controller

Underrated channel with awesome funny but serious reviews

this video was so awesome, thank you man. i still can’t decide tho - very nervous about stick drift

Nice review, I had a feeling it was basically the Elite 2 all over again just in a different color and no accessories. It looks nice though I can’t deny that, but there is something I can’t wait for you to review soon. The HEX Ultra that I saw on IG being marketed heavily, that controller looks really cool and hope to see your review soon. Take care Kevin!

I picked up the Nacon Pro Controller based on your review. I love it and there is still no stick drift or other problems.

Kevin, good review, thanks for saving my hands using this "PRO" controller.

Best review by far. Every other review on KZfaq simply state the obvious differences which anyone and their pet rabbit can see, what we really wanted to hear is if the build quality has been improved upon which you covered - really waiting for thy tear down video before I decide to test my luck buying one, with warranty!

Was waiting for this!

Thanks for keeping it real bruv. I got an elite 2 that has the rubber peeling, rb not 100% responding, A button working half the time. Was going to get this as a replacement but I think I'll go for a other brand.

as always the best breakdown of any controller on the whole damn platform. i dont even use xbox controllers but love the content.

Hello Kevin, I got myself an elite series 2 core as well and when it comes to the shell, I think the reason it feels different is because they don’t want to do a soft silicon finish exactly the same as the standard elite. Reason being is because it’s a white controller and it probably would show up dirt differently. It still has a soft finish though as it feels different to the stock series x controller. It’s a shame that no paddles are included but I know some more casual people that want an elite controller for the feels and don’t use paddles or other accessories. Personally I really like the controller, I think it was a good idea for Microsoft to re-release it for a lower price point. I also intend to do a review on my own KZfaq channel if you’re interested to hear my full thoughts. I’ve got 20 Xbox Controllers now so it might be time to seek counselling. Great review, keep up the great content.

How tf does this guy only have 60k subs? This is way funnier than watching other reviewers be PG for 12 minutes. Mad props brother 🙏 Also a friend and I convinced one of our buddies to buy a Series 2 and he had drift out of the box, exchanged it at Best Buy, new one had drift too. Then he bought a $60 wired controller on Amazon that had paddles and whatnot and its apparently pretty good but he sounds like he's speaking into a megaphone that's low on battery when he's in party chat. Moral of the story, Series 2, your friends will still play with you. Knockoff controller, you will still play. Your choice

thx 4 the review, I will be purchasing the xbox elite 2 controller

This dude sitting here with 26478 controllers and I have been out of a controller for about a week now (I had an Elite V2 controller as well and have been through about 8 of them in the span of a couple of years.) and still another two weeks when I get paid... (being disabled and having limited income sucks butt.) Also, I gave you a sub because you have an Ace of Spades hand cannon, and I too am a Destiny 2 player.

i love ihow you setp up youre controllers on the wall now i whant to start my collection lol and a very good video

And I just bought a elite controller series 2. Btw, the intro music was sick👌👌

You should turn the stick drift out of the box segment into a KZfaq short. 1 because it'll probably go viral for you but also because it's important for consumers like myself to know that before paying premium money for a controller.

I just bought that controller works awesome love the custom options

Excellent review!

This guy deserves way more subs than he has. Humour is unmatched 😂😂

Excellent review video once again, thanks to this I wont be wasting my money on one, cheaper plastic worse QC no thanks, i'll just buy a 2nd Elite 2 way better value for money. Looking forward to you pulling it apart video 👍✌

Its sad to see so many people have problems with this controller because i was very hesitant myself. But i decided to buy it and its been the best controller ive had for the last couple of years with 0 stick drift. But after you taking it apart and showing superior components could've been used, it has me wondering if i just got lucky lol.

you also got a new sub, keep up the good work on the reviews.

I went through 3 brand-new Razer Wolverine Ultimates that came with off-center analog sticks. First one had left stick 10% south-of-center, second one had the right stick around 12% left-of-center, and the third controller FINALLY had "acceptable" ranges, with only about 3% south-of-center on the left stick, which I just accepted since the left stick isn't as important. People don't realize that if a stick is 10% left-of-center, for example, that means you have to move it 20% to the right to reach an equivalent position in the game. It also robs you of 10% from the maximum threshold too, though that's less important, it means one side will reach top acceleration before the other. Now this is my biggest worry when buying any new controller, that I have to immediately test it on Gamepad Tester just to see if the analog sticks are in neutral or center position. It's very frustrating.

Hey, good video! I have a suggestion for something you could cover with your controller reviews that I personally find very important when it comes to pro controllers: Whether or not the paddles are unique controls or can only map to the control buttons. For example, with the elite controllers they allow you to map them to any button on your PC using Rewasd, e.g. mapping them to a keyboard button or mouse click. However, with controllers such as the Razer Wolverine Ultimate, the paddles are limited to being mapped to the controller buttons. For console gaming, it's not a big deal but for PC gaming with the controllers, this is huge! Being able to map a paddle to push-to-talk for example, or some other random binding is soo helpful. Feel free to ignore this or not but figured I'd share! Thanks!!

Lastly, last summer, Xbox "refreshed" the 'Lot Number' of the Series 2. For a while, I was convinced they addressed some issues. It genuinely felt like they did, but the then arose the issue of the right thumbstick rubbing against to potentiometer.

It's that base fitting of the tension module. There is a slight movement giving the sticks a slight deadzone wobble where any ingame movement doesn't register. This wears overtime and the wobble becomes more noticeable, especially if you use the default loose tension. This confirms to me they haven't fixed or changed this to address this issue. So it's a hard NO for me. Thanks for the review.

Best controller Reviewer on KZfaq!!!!

I have never had stick drift on the elite series 2 besides one where it was broken out of the box, so I just replaced it. But the right bumpers on about 7 controllers have given out or started double pressing. I have been replacing them through the warranty the entire time I have had them.

The elite core2 is supposed to be a more affordable version of the elite and its nice to have the option of having the add-ons that may or may not use

I bought the Core on the day of release, since I didnt get the series 2 and I dont use paddles, I saved 50 bucks. No issues with it so far... wish me luck

I'm sure he gave a good review I'm just starting to watch the video. Either way I just got the Elite Series to core controller in today I have two Elite series two controllers so I have extra paddles that I can use regardless immediately I noticed that both right and left bumper we're very loose compared to the black controller also it just felt cheaper than the Black Elite too also out of the box the B button was very loose and this is from Amazon and usually Amazon I don't have issues but the B button was too loose for me and the y button stuck so, it's a Duff for me I would just recommend getting the black one if you want an elite Two controller I'm at the point where I'm going to look into getting one of those expensive controllers cuz I'm so sick of elite two controllers breaking having to get them replaced even though they work great but when the issues come they come in heaps this is just my review and I've had a lot of experiences from the elite version one controller and going through three or four of them and going through five Elite Series 2 controllers not all of them were bad but they need to improve the build quality so it lasts and stop lying and say that it lasts so if anyone has any suggestions on a good controller that doesn't have two different size sticks and has back buttons that are good I've watched all of your videos and I tried the Gambit but it felt like a piece of junk so other than the Gambit if you could find me a controller for 100 $150 that is just as good as the delete too I would love to know what it is thank you.

All I have to say is I really hope they either upgraded the rb lb buttons or went back to the original series one buttons. Had the rb button die on me and I dislike the plastic trigger stoppers since that also came off my series 2 never had an issue with my original though.

God level setup.. 🔥

I absolutely love my Xbox Elite Wireless Controller Series 2. I believe I paid $140 back in March.

I saw your wall of controllers and thought this guy must know a thing or two about this controller I am interested in

I like this core controller a whole lot more than my regular elite series 2. It does feel different in a good way. And my bumpers are actually responsive. So far so good. Being able to change the xbox light gives it that extra touch.

They should include the core with purchase of system good review😊

You got me I subbed

Gotta say I am thinking about picking one of these up. I loved my OG elite and I still have the case, the paddles the thumb sticks etc etc and this would be a great way to replace the controller, I've had a Razer V2 Chroma for the last 2 years tho so it's between another one of those and this....

Subscribed, like your style and love that controller wall but it’s got to be a PITA to dust them. My series 1 needs to be replaced and my Series 2 Halo LE arrived with a wobbly analog stick, a broken back button, and a busted paddle so was returned to MS Store since they refused to warranty an LE because it’s an LE 😒. Been waiting for an improvedSeries 2.

I wonder if newer Series 2 controllers also have the plastic change. It has been three years after all, and it doesn't make sense to have two different production lines for the same product besides coloring; which at this point they should just be sharing the same processes as the standard controllers for the coloring. It makes sense for the typical Series 2 to be sharing the same plastics, hell all of the controllers should be sharing the same plastics in all honesty, that's just how efficient manufacturing works, especially at the material source end of things. The 'Core' naming is also a bit odd. Core basic is the standard no-frills controller, Core Elite is the Elite with no accessories. Makes me think there might be an upcoming fourth slot, an upgraded basic controller, probably with built-in paddles or back buttons, based on the Core basic design. It'd make sense from a product lineup standpoint, basic controller, upgraded basic controller to compete with a lot of the third party market as even some of the more basic offerings have back buttons, an upgradable Core Elite that you can get a cheap third party accessory pack for, and the decked out Elite controller with all the first party accessories. The only thing that doesn't make sense is pricing, even if they shoot the gap between Core basic and Core Elite, the pricing seems off and the price brackets are way too tight, I think the only way it makes sense is drop the price of the Core basic to allow this fourth controller to exist within that basic-Elite gap of the Core controllers; plus this would make Microsoft more competitive in the controller market. I wouldn't be surprised if something like this does happen around the mid-gen timeframe, when they'd also be announcing the Series 3 controller, a normalization of back inputs outside of 'pro' controllers, which hopefully back input becomes baseline standard by next gen. This also makes me curious as to what Series 3 will actually offer. Fixing the drift issue via modules would probably put them into a situation similar to the vibration motor patent situation or the Valve/Scuff back paddle situation, if anyone here remembers that portion of controller history, considering Sony is going to hold the patent for a slide-in module and Thrustmaster holds the patent for a drop-in module, there's not much breathing room for Microsoft to have a modular design to fix the drift issue; which is why I believe their only realistic move is to go with a magnetic stick, whether that's making their own, buying GuliKit parts, or pushing ALPS to make a design with a temporary exclusivity agreement. Other than that, I don't really see what new things a Series 3 could offer, I don't think Microsoft is bold enough to change button switch types, or even do a spring box for the carbon contact switch like GuliKit is doing, they won't introduce anything like gyro controls considering Microsoft refuses to expand Xinput even though Xinput is now the API that has severely fallen behind, and there's not really much else they could do that isn't experimental or outlandish. As for the stick drift issue, I wonder when ALPS is going to get absolutely dragged for producing terrible components. I'm not sure who supplies Nintendo with their analog boxes, but we've seen what can happen to a company when issues go on like this for everyone. The fact that ALPS units degrade within _months_ of use now is absurd. The only way this gets fixed is either forcing ALPS to do better again, as they're the source of the issue and deserves to legally have their balls dragged through a field of glass, and/or ALPS needs replaced entirely, which hopefully GuliKit will do with their magnetic units; third parties are worse than ALPS as far as I understand, but ALPS' own quality fell off a cliff mid-gen last generation, if not even earlier; how was drift on the 360, because PS3 used inductor-based analog sticks up until the last couple models of the DS3, either super slim or post- super slim, either way it was after the PS4 launched and the PS3 was on its last breath.

Hey bro you got any advice for starting a channel, your story has greatly inspired me

Imagine if Microsoft used hall effect analog stick modules and those clicky razer mechanical switches for the buttons, then it really would be the ultimate controller.

the xbox dpad uses metal dome switches, not a rubber membrane. (love the vids btw lol)

Actually Elite V1 paddles on the V2 feels the most comfortable for me. I use 3 of them and that’s perfect for shooters like CoD. I also have 2 Battle Beaver Custom Controllers that I’ve had for less than a year and have had to have repaired 3 times. Just got them back and for what I spent on them plus the cost of repair because of the ridiculously short warranty I’d recommend the elite over modified stock controllers. Still the same crap quality. I will say though when the Battle Beaver does work as intended they feel amazing.

Many people like myself don’t use the back paddles but the bumper stops. I like it however in like a yr the RB started to have registering issues. But had a paid warranty they paid me 110 and the full Elite 2 was on sale at Verizon for $90 so I grabbed that immediately.

Hi captain! I was looking to buy a Switch pro controller and so, obviously, I looked on your channel for a review but there’s none! Would you mind doing a Switch Pro controller review please? Thank you so much!

Thanks!

They definitely fixed the quality to the elite 2 my first broke within 8 months and I’m closing to about a year with my second with no problem Other wise great vid

You can customize home color on elite series 2 controllers in accessories. Not sure if that was added after this video but ill throw it here

Correction after the the software update u can change the color of the Xbox button using the Xbox

this is what ive been looking for a HONEST REVIEW people love shining turds the controller is a cheaper weak watered down version of the highest tier controller without KEY COMPONENTS that make it better than the standard , thanks for the video ill be getting the most expensive one now as i want an upgrade from the standard and this controller is just standard XL lol

Solid review boss. Do we know if the Firmware update improved the input delay times?

Top tip: you can change the xbox home button colour via the console now

I had to exchange 2 core controllers in a row that had the same stick drift issue out of the box. Decided to pay the difference and "upgraded" to the regular Elite Series 2 and had to exchange another 3 due to the exact same issue. I'm done with Microsoft controllers until they start using Hall Effect sensors. This is beyond ridiculous.

Im on my 4th replacement. Went with the core and the p3 doesn't register until way after it clicks. I'm replacing it same day.

My controller was on the charger fully charged took it off the charger and now the screen won’t come on put it back on the charger and nothing will come now please help me

The first elite series 2 I got had bad stick drift in a month. I sent it in under warranty and the next controller has a right bumper not registering all the time and it started like a week after I got it. I'm about to send it back too.

Thats was the review i was looking for.thanks from 🇩🇪Germany.but is the elite 2 so loud like the normal Series Controller? My normal Series Controller is so loud while playing 🥲

Killer video brother but I have a question?where is the share button now if the middle button is now the profile switch button?

How did you get your wall black like that where you hang on your controllers is that a thing I can buy?

What I do with my Elite, use the bottom smaller paddles from the S2 on the top row, and the smaller top ones from the S1 on the bottom row.

I watched to many tutorial for overclocking controllers, but i newer understand well how to overclock my controllers (Playstation & Xbox) wirelessly to get that performance on consoles playing wirelessly? Please someone explain that.

Love this controller so far, needed something that can withstand hard play on the analog sticks. NHL is so tough on controllers

Do you happen to know that if I bought an Xbox Elite Series 2 controller...yesterday (which I did for my son) is that included in the 1 year warranty that they came out with a while back or was it only retroactively applied to all of the previous controllers?

I wonder if the cheaper plastic and worse paddle switches are also used in Design Lab Elite controllers

I give back my series 2 as it was impossible to aim in a fast shooting games. Now I got the fusion pro 2 as it got very smooth analog sticks I was wondering if there is a better pad like maybe the gambit ? I play fornite so I do need the back paddles unfortunately

Quick question, the original elite 2, when I was press in the left stick and rotate it, it was grinding a lot, whereas the right stick is always smooth. Does this still have that issue?

I think the series 2 joysticks are supposed to self-calibrate with use in order to prevent drift, unlike standard xbox controllers which are calibrated at the factory. I am guessing you were doing unusual movements during testing that threw off the auto-calibration, which is why updating it solved it. Although theoretically just using the controller normally, it should have eventually recalibrated itself.

I will say. I like the adapter, but for some reason my brothers randomly disconnects. And it’s within like 4 feet so idk why

You can now adjust the color on the Xbox home button on consoles. Also, is there anyway to reduce input lag on console with the Series 2?

Microsoft announced the Series 2 elite controller had it's warranty extended from 90 days to one year back in 2020, which was even retroactive. If you paid for a repair within the first year of owning it, they offered a refund for it.

Great review, great content. I don’t trust the Xbox controllers any more. Love the form factor & prefer the ergonomics, but the quality control combined with how less responsive they are vs PS controllers pushes me to the PS controllers. I have two broken Elite v2 and my Elite v1 had to be gorilla glued back together.

I would not have trusted anyones word on this product other than yours. I main the elite two, have had two, my latest is a warranty replacement. I find it is a near perfect controler other than the obvious issues and the adjustble tension mechanism degrades my accuracy in apex. Im going to try to replace the right thumbstick module with a 160 grm battle beaver moduale myself

hey KeV, any chance PlayStation will send you the new Dual Sense Edge for review before it comes out? Looking forward to video!! I love your videos!

I don’t have an Xbox or need an Xbox controller but can’t stop watching cause this guy is so damn good at his craft.

Any recommendation as an elite 2 alternative with similar back paddle configs that isn't the scuf?

When you click in the stick and rotate it does it feel ratchety to you and not smooth at all because I’ve returned 3 for that reason because r6 is unplayable with it

I've bought 5 elites 2 all drift issues. I bought the core 0 drift after nearly one week of play satisfied thus fat

Where did you get that Ace of Spades gun from that's so cool

you can change the colour of the xbox controller in the config on xbox

You can customize the color on the console. I have mine set to red

Can anyone explain how the original Xbox, and Xbox 360 generation controllers never had stick drift, but the One and Series do? Aren't they the same guts, or did they cheapen them? I never heard of or experienced stick drift, until Xbox One. Why is it so prevalent now, but a non-issue before?

Yeah idk I kind of wish they would have just cut the cost off the regular elite series 2. The elite controllers have been out for so long it doesn't make sense for it to naturally have dropped like 50 dollars in production by now.

I've got a Turtle Beach Recon, and the only issues I have with it are user error

Where is the serial number location on these new white elite 2 cores

Please don't forget to review the upcoming 8bitdo ultimate wireless controller!! I will really appreciate it bro

The most comprehensive review on the platform... Says pause video to read the text on the box. 🤣 Great video though. Was waiting so bad for a refresh. Now I just need to buy a scuf.

Do the sticks feel like shit like they do on the original Series 2. The original series 2 has a horrible deadzone by default and feel out of sync at times compared to a default controller.

any updated list of recommended paddle controllers for PC use?

Welcome to the Dorm!? Nailed IT, LMAO!!! Hey can you yell at Aim and tell them to build a Core Controller with the Spider V3 paddles fully Re-Programmable, PLEASE!!!!!!

Thoughts on what is the best pro controller to purchase for Xbox?

Very in depth thank you I'll stick with the original controller 😂

Will the steam calibration affect the controller for every game? Like even Fortnite?