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This right here! If they put their shit in a standalone that makes sense I would insta buy no doubt.

MIDI out to daw bridges the gap for this for now, but yes, 100+ your comment

With the present CPU and RAM it would be very difficult to incorporate processing like stem software. Most stem software at the moment all use the same algorithms from the same developer and it’s super intensive on processing power and it has mixed results. So I wouldn’t hold your breath lol

Some people will never be happy. How much is a 3000 now or sp1200? Lot more then 2500 bucks. Apple to apples man Go get another job and save up and get what’s needed. Do it and stop blaming a company. You want the best workflow and the best audio you gotta get an interface or external gear. If I buy a high end bass and I put a piece of shit amp it’s gonna sound like shit. 🤔 before you spit shit. Pick a new hobby that cheap make paper airplanes or some shit. But if you wanna be serious in the music world today you gotta spend money and it’s a hell Of lot more then 2500 bucks.

Just keep talking about it. The more voices the better

I agree with you on the more competition tip, but I disagree on the part about "high quality parts within the MPC." The newer MPCs may not have the warm, compressed sound of the older units, but that's because their parts are more updated, making them capture even more nuance to audio. In fact, it's all in the specs of the devices, 12-bit for the MPC 60 II vs 16-bit or 24-bit for the newer MPCs, would definitely yield a different sound from what you're used to. And even the sample rate would define how accurate the sound is that you capture at 40kHz vs 44kHz. If you're saying you want nostalgia, you can certainly acquire an older unit and get the type of sound you want, or you can shape the clean sound of the MPC with the tools you get. Air Flavor Pro is no slouch in this regard! But it's objectively inaccurate to compare the audio output of the newer MPCs to the older MPCs and look down on the X and its siblings. If you compare the outputs of the MPC to, say, a high-end audio interface, then yes, there may be a reason to say that the audio is not up to par.

You don't have to buy an SE the ONE does the trick just fine.

Like Bolo said the MPC's still sound better than anything on the market right now..but I do I think if the OG's think it can better Akai should get on the job...that way they stay ahead of the competition...cuz if not someone is going to fill the sound Niche

NI should reach out to Roger Linn!!!

@@uncanny_telepathy That would be ill.

Agree with you

I think if you take a look at what the cost of ram is for PC parts, especially when compared to what it was a year ago it makes the MSRP that Akai released the MPC x SE at appear unreasonable. No you can't make a 1:1 comparison, actually though I guarantee they paid less than what a consumer would if you could even buy a newly manufactured 2gig stick of ram presently. I'm very surprised they didn't release it with a new upgraded processor and more I/0 to be able to justify that price point.

Thanks Cody ✌🏼appreciate the words

That part

Well stated 🎉.. Reason studios is what did it for me. I come from the MV8000. I nevered owned an MPC... So I may try this one.. But no matter what.. Reason virtual flexibility is such an addiction. It's hella quick and forever updating. It's such a delight to travel with a laptop and small midi board.

They have it on Akai Force. I’m willing to bet the next MPC update will include the song arranger from the FORCE os

@@DamianLHudson I'm aware of the Akai Force capabilities. What the next update concerns for the mpc's, i don't believe they will change the layout of the song mode. However, since apple announced logic pro for the ipad, it forces Akai and others in the game to listen to their customers now or else they're doomed.

I changed my mpc live for the akai force because of the horrible song mode. I barely use the force tho because it's huge. If only they would implement the force song mode into mpc I would pick it back up instantly. sadly akai knows this and it looks like they want to keep them separate to sell more units all around

That was a budget sampler though. I got it when it came out and still have it but the MPCs were always premium. The ASR-X sequencer is fuc*ed up and that was more expensive. The Roland MV-8800 was a superior seqeuncer though compared to the MPC4000 at the time. Roland should have stuck with it.

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I feel like I'm going to miss how quick the workflow with the sp404 MK2 is once you have it mastered the most. I can totally see myself picking up another one in a year or two if they really come through and fix all the bugs and hopefully make it where you can choose the step parameters once and unless you change them every time you go into tr rec it will have them set the way you chose before, and that same idea would be so welcome with many parameters on the machine. There's obviously other improvements we'd all love to see, but I think that specifically was probably the thing that frustrated me the most with the sp404mk2. Honestly a large number of the effects I didn't find to be that great. I'll say that one of the delays does nail it's timing in a manner that I have heard in some music yet have not found to be very easy to duplicate. The idolater effect is solid for not making a muddy mess through stacking layers of identical frequencies on each other, the reverb is passable the 303 tape sim is good, but most of the rest feel somewhat worthless. Having a decent spring verb, a sidechain compressor and some modulation would be some much welcomed additions. The roll is trash. Maybe this was user error, but I absolutely could not for the life of me ever seem to get any midi msgs, or midi clock to work consistently, and that was another extremely big point of frustration to me, because I want to have the ability to integrate the other two synths I currently own with each other to be able to both write and preform in real time. I think if you're justifying paying $500 for it to just use it for it's effects that your not being honest with yourself about the quality of effects for the price. The dust collector is not much more expensive and sounds a lot better or the dreadbox hypnosis can be found for over $100 less used or refurbished and sounds great as well although more tame Impala than king tubby. Another multi effects pedal that sounds great and is $599.99 that I feel is supremely underrated is the meris LVX multi-delay/multi effects pedal that offers you the freedom of a virtual modular system with 99 preset slots a 60 second looper, and draws on ideas found throughout meris' whole product line and you have total freedom to build your effects chain in whatever order you desire. Don't get me wrong, outside of the effects that I said that I actually liked I just don't really feel the need to use the other ones. I just think for the number of effects you get and the quality of them in comparison to what else is on the market it's not a good value in that regard specifically.

Akai was smart in making an Ableton type sampler like the Force capturing a market that they couldn’t with the legacy MPC’s.

I’ve had Maschine for ten years and although I learned to use its sampler I’ve always hated the experience. Once I got the MPC X it became clear I would never use Maschine again.

@@leogolive I actually like Maschine's slicing and sampling workflow better than the MPC. So I guess to each their own.

It doesn’t compete at all. The maschine is a computer program with a midi controller, it’s not a sampler. They tried to compete with Akai when they released the maschine+ and they failed miserably

@@apoclypseI do too but NI doesn’t support the hip hop community! They’ll make a kit for us but not features and plugins like Akai does. NI simply not listening to us.

My question is why? Why doesn't roland bring it back?

Oh yeah the MV800

@@mpchead I think they’ve had so much success with the SP 404 MKii that they are fully vested in betting on that hoarse and at this point who wants to go up against a juggernaut when you can play it safe with the 404, they should partner with Roger linn and come out with an anniversary MV800 with converters that would put MPC to shame!

You have so manny good hardwear samplers that are better than akai s series like emu, roland , esonique is best one imo its also most expensive

It's true but I also have external gear that can make any wack sampler sound great.

​​​​​@@mpchead this is why octatrack beats out new mpcs. The limitations you speak of are non existent if you use external gear. You should try one. It's more than some buggy software in a pad midi controller like the new mpcs. It's a legit sampler and more than that with endless workflows and ways to do things. If you can use external gear as an excuse as why your favorite gear is king, then so can the octatrack.

@@mpchead but how good and better would your gear make the Sp1200 sound ? Even better which would make it totally incredible

True, Akais achilles heel

I agree with you. To me nothing is better overall than the combination of Ableton Live and the push 2. Akai comes in as a close 2nd and even wins in certain aspects like, portability in regards to the live and live 2.

@@SenecaGiles I talked to the CEO and head of Push team and told them if it was more portable people would use it so much more and they took notes and stuff. We’ll see. They definitely will not make it touch screen because the Push guy is against that.

@@jacksp8de I don’t think there is a need for a touch screen on the push. I never felt it was missing that feature. I do think if they make it more portable without sacrificing what it always does well, it’ll be something current push users would appreciate… I wonder if they’re going to try to do something stand alone or just keep it tethered to the computer. iPad integration would be dope too. Whatever it is, I’m excited to see what’s next for the push

Push 2 is HANDS DOWN NO CONTEST my absolute favorite thing to use to make music. I use that for my home studio and an SP404SX and now a MK2 for my portable recording and sound design device. I want to like an MPC but when I use one it just seems to not click with how I think. I play my own instruments and I've found the SP404 MK2 actually more smooth for tracking 4-8 bar loops playing keys to a simple pattern than it was when I had the MPC One. Overall though, nothing is quite as intuitive and effective for my writing/producing style than Push 2. I basically try to mimic that workflow on the MK2. Bottom line if Ableton made a portable Push with the same session and arrangement workflow, I'd buy that thing so fast it would be embarrassing. Haha.

Yeah but ableton over charges for everything

I'll be honest, I've been very curious about it, I'll definitely try it when I get the chance.

Jon is a beast, love the channel and his music. I only worked with the rytm but I feel like the sequencing should be about the same. As I said, I love Elektron gear.

"There are endless possibilities" that's what I can't understand, so many companies and none seems to see it. They all put out half baked products.

I am referring to samplers and not controllers. Push is great and serato could come up with a sampler soon.

Maybe not, let's wait.

Agree, step sequencer needs an updated

You can trigger any of the effects found in x/y in (write mode) on the sequencer

Yeah sure we all have 3k to 4k laying around for a Sp1200. Akai samplers are way more affordable and are also portable. Akai is shitting on everyone else in the sampling market.

Per se doesn't mean what you think.

He was spitting the truth

@@aldali724 facts and I learned some shit too

Took a break a few years back from Akai to try a Maschine from NI. Sampling is much easier with a better workflow that’s miles apart from an a Maschine or any other software sampler outside of maybe Ableton which I own as well.

Man I know, I also want that new mpc with new features and functions. I love gear as much as the next man but the mpc is already such a powerful sampler as it is, plus when you compare it with others you can clearly see it.

I can't speak on it because I never owned it but I believe it could be a great competitor in the future.

Akai are like crazy cockroaches in the Game they have so many hardwares like any other companies while no longer supporting previous models

100% my workflow, this is a video regarding me and my vision of beatmaking with samples. Not a response but I felt like putting things into perspective, the way I see it.

@@mpchead Awesome! and thanks for providing the additional context. And as a subscriber to your channel, who does not use MPC gear, I still find your tutorials extremely helpful and inspirational :)

True! 👊💯💯💯💯💯

It just depends who you are I brought my first sampler around 2000 ish the Boss Dr Sample SP-303 I still use every day.i run my projector,stereo,reel to reel player,8-track,DAT, everything thru it.ive got a full rack vintage Akai stereo integrated amplifier model AM-2350,plus the record player for it,tape deck etc reel to reel player and two box Akai microphone.its the complete system and I got I for nothing.,I was driving down the road and saw and old guy throwing it out,I lock up my brakes jump out of my car "are u throwing this out?" Can I buy it of you,nah you can have it then I find out it's got everything for it,forgot the headphones and speakers he just gave it to me

Agree. In my opinion Serato Sample is the best sampler in the world. But the reason these dudes like hardware samplers is also because they impose a particular workflow. There’s an elektron and mpc workflow for instance. At the end I find it very unproductive you can replicate every feature of every sampler on a lot of DAWS without having to use a limiting clunky method.