lmao.. I just can't buy the 745 because the keys are much longer on the 785, that's the biggest reason.. Is that worth 2k more? Probably not.. do I need it despite? Probably yes.. Yamaha knows their customers..

@@RabbitConfirmed The CLP745 is best in its class but side by side the CLP785 was worth the extra bucks to me. I went for the less expensive finish which saved $500 below the listed sale price.

@@midnight4109 Yea I totally get that.. There is just something about having even more control over your piano, that is worth the extra money. Like, yes for that price I could almost buy an upright acoustic piano, but that wouldn't have that beautiful sounds of a CFX or Bosendorfer. So the more I think about it, the 785 actually seems to be the best option for me, even though its expensive..

@@RabbitConfirmed I'm not willing to spend more and wouldn't be happy with anything less so the 785 was special and worth the price

At this point I think I've tried them all and the CLP785 sounds the best except for possibly the NV5S which is an extra $3K.

True but at $8000 you might as well pay $2000 more and get a GP 795

I have played the Yamaha CLP795GP, which is the top of the range Clavinova in baby grand style, in the same room with acoustic grand pianos, including a Yamaha C7 and a Yamaha CFIII (two generations behind the CFX). The difference in sound is very obvious, particularly if you are close to them. Speakers have trouble producing the amount of midrange clarity and presence real pianos produce. A piano like the CFIII will just overpower the CLP795GP in a gigantic way. Plus, digital pianos typically sound boomy compared to real pianos. You get a huge bass from the CFIII, but it doesn't sound boomy. Part of the reason is that real pianos behave similarly to Open Baffle speakers (search Open Baffle speakers and see how they work), but digital pianos usually rely on little built-in ported subwoofers to produce the bass. Ported subwoofers produce air shuffling and the bass is punchy but fake, not like a real grand piano. Real pianos produce bass by the sheer size of the membrane (soundboard). The amount of color and harmonics you get from the CFIII cannot be matched by the CLP795GP either. The sustain is another area where digital pianos don't compete with real pianos. Piano notes decay too fast in digital pianos because they are probably not fully recorded samples. All in all, digital pianos sound great, but you can quickly discover their shortcomings when it comes to sound in a live comparison with acoustic pianos.

How about the chioce between 745 and 735, do the wooden keys worth the difference? Speakers and Bluetooth have no that much importance for me.

Same boat I'm in

Hey Can you tell me if you got the 745 I'm considering getting it You described me in your comments and im definitely not getting a 785 So I wonder is the 745 good?

785

CA99

@@mupbelchen010701 With a name like yours, how about a Roland LX series.

I just tried the CA99 and think I like the sound of the CLP785 better but if the prices keep coming down, maybe a Kawai Novus 5. I'm also considering the Roland LX708.

@@midnight4109 what’s about the action difference? Which one is better?

Asking the real questions. If they followed the refresh schedule as the CLP line, they would have announced it already.

@@CaptnYestrday I know! Hoping for this fall, as it would be 4 years since the announcement. I get that the pianos can get software updates to improve them, but there are still many other things they can improve upon, and I for one would definitely like to upgrade to a baby grand version of the CSP, should I first be upgrading from my CLP-440. Tried finding the contact info for the Product development team, but no such luck

@Сергей С Google Translated: У CSP-270 был бы лучший строй CLP-700 (Grand Touch-S), лучшие динамики и бинауральные сэмплы Bösendorfer. Я бы подождал.

@Сергей С Нет информации. Может быть объявлено в любое время или никогда. CSP был экспериментом, поэтому нет никаких гарантий, что он будет продолжаться. Yamaha могла бы прекратить производство, если бы продажи были слишком низкими.

@@CaptnYestrday We got them now. CSP 295GP :)

I'd be interested if you had the answer to that. I'm hesitating between the 775 and the 785.

Good question... and I wonder if it would be possible to install such a counterweight

@@klrdto3250 You would have to bore holes in each key and put in the exact gram weights they used which I’m sure is proprietary information. If you’re looking to save money it might be possible to buy a 775, order a full set of replacement keys for a 785 and swap them lol. Not worth the cost or the trouble in my opinion.

Comparing them side by side the difference is significant with the 785 being a real pleasure to play.

@@markrichards8711 Tried them both since my first comment, and I agree the difference was there. I've purchased the 785

From Kawai I would suggest the CN39, rather than CA49 which sounds better. Roland HP704 might be the best all around, considering price and quality. The CLP 745 is the best piano of the 3 aside from the cost.

@@midnight4109 thank you for your reply. I ended up buying an acoustic .. Kawai upright piano 😅

@@halytorresguibon5689 Those are preferable. None of the digitals can match a Kawai upright for sound.

The point is to compare the two models so people can decide if the extra cost is worth it. The 785 sounds significantly better, but also costs significantly more. If you're on a budget, this video helps decide if the extra price is worth it "to you". Also the 795 is exactly the same as the 785, just in a grand style cabinet. To most people, the 2k increase for essentially a cosmetic difference isn't worth it.

@@cyph3r473 That is good information you have given me and don't get me wrong this video is useful. So there is also a 775 in between the 785. I know the 775 is more artisan and it can fold up. Well I am on a budget today but in a year i will not be. My next upgrade will be the GP795. It is a pretty penny worth about $10,000 but they have a Yamaha CF feature and a Boosendorfer, they do on the 745 as well but they have more speakers. For my budget and my current sitaution, as much as I love the 785, I think the 745 was the right buy. I also did not know they had a 7.95 but it has a grand style cabinet. I agree with you that if the 2k is just cosmetics, then it is not worth it. Would you say though it is worth it to pay the difference to improve from a 745 to a 785? Reason why I am not looking at a 785 or a 795 is you might as well just get a GP 795 because it is going to be about the same cost most likely. If you are going to pay $8000-9000, might as well spend $1000 more and get a top of the line. Now I will tell you one thing I am glad i did not cheap out and go for the 735 model. The 745 should hold me down for the next couple of years, until it's time to get an upgrade. Ultimately, I would like to get a 6ft Yamaha CF series but those are acoustic, and they are around $45,000-60,000. Your video is helpful. I would also some videos that compare like for like for example the Yamaha Clavinovaa 745 is probably comparable to the Rolland LX 705. The 775 is probably equivalent to the LX 706 and so forth. Just a suggestion.

the 785 also has a better action. the keys are individually weighted instead of group weighted, it has better/more bells and whistles, and, yes, it sounds better. The cabinet looks like an acoustic upright as well whereas the 745 has the classic spinet digital piano look. i think a big reason people don't buy the 795 is because its $2k more for a nearly identical playing experience, and space usage is really inefficient. being able to put the piano out of the way up against a wall is really nice. tbh im not really sure what market the 795 serves. youre getting to the price point where you might as well just buy a baby grand acoustic piano if you want the baby grand aesthetic.

There's always the CLP745 if price is a consideration, or the HP704, or the CN39.

Pick a 775 If that really matters

@@Bingliuau It does matter. What else is comparable? Maybe a 785?

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They both DO actually. Google it you dolt.

@@damienx0x No they don't. Not even Yamaha says that. Google it yourself and update your knowledge before posting lies.

"GrandTouch-S keyboard of the CLP-745 features wooden keys that showcase Yamaha’s expertise with wood for pianos" Straight from the Yamaha website