Thanks, this is useful.

Thank you friend

very nice - what attenuator do you use for the pro junior?

Agree. Got a pro Jr IV (quiet like a mouse) and a tele 2004 am. Std I would like to know what do you use for reverb/ambience/space and which attenuator.

Jeff Beck uses the Pro Junior. That speaks volumes to me… I have a Pro Junior too, but I modded the front-end to sound more like a Marshall 18-watt. I also changed the output transformer and replaced the speaker.

I managed to find a Tweed Pro Junior from the 90s for 300 bucks. I bought a noise gate to solve the hiss and attenuator to use full range of volume. Now I have a fun and capable rig for that classic Fender sound without the weight+real estate investment

Dont know why more people don't use these? Easy because there is better out there.

How high do you have to crank the volume on the Jr to get that grit?

@@TracyLanebike played one in the store, started to breakup at 11:30. for a real overdrive though it’s like 2:00. Plenty loud

couldn't agree more the mesa mark V25 us one if my favourite amps

50 watts is still overkill for small clubs

@@nicholasantonis It is. You just need something that can keep up with the drums. I find myself torn between the 25 and 35 Mesa Mark V. The 35 has the Solo alternate Master Volume but the 25 is just right sized. Keeps up with a hard hitting drummer and when cranked for leads, the power section is so nicely saturated for sustain. It's a hard amp on a player. It amplifies what you play in a clarity that other amps don't do and this makes it a task master. You have to play hard and play well otherwise you sound like ass.

I have both. The rarer (255 worldwide) Pro Junior IV LTD version (fawn covering but more importantly, with the Jensen P10Q...less bright than the more standard P10R) and just got the '68 Custom Vibro Champ last week. The 10" and reverb upgrades are awesome.

That is what I use the in. The Champ is slightly on the edge (cleans up wonderfully when turning down the volume on the guitar) and the Princeton is my wet amp. Works like a charm.

That’s great to here. Ya still using it ? Can ya get good low bedroom tones from it ?

Hi, I’m looking at buying both too. Would you say the pro junior is heaps louder?

@@stratslinger3921 A fair bit louder. Played out with it easily...four-piece classic rock band.

@Noble Failures yup, such an warm soulful tone!! 🙌🏻🎶🎸

Awesome little amps for sure

Me too. I have an AC15, but I love using the ac10 whenever I'm at Guitar Center. I'm gonna buy one once I get all the other stuff I want first.

I think they just sound different that's all. Not all Vox speaks to me, it's hard to dial those glassy highs on most of them without being a bit harsh. Ive not played an AC10 before, how does it compare to the hand-wired (non vintage) versions of AC30?

@@MintStiles An AC10C1 is a modern reissue and it really packs a punch for a 10 watt amp. With a Tele it can go from twang to early Zeppelin and with a 335 it can sound like Clapton era Cream and Paul Kossoff. My buddy was AMAZED at how well it sounded and for less than $400 for a tube amp is insane. It also takes pedals well but honestly it's such great plug and play tone it's totally a tossup whether pedals are necessary at all. They definitely aren't as "trebley" as an AC30 is prone to be though. I think of them as a Bassman with only one speaker since they have 10's and 10's are just naturally warmer to my ears.

@@MintStiles I'm not a fan of Vox. Never could understand why they are favored other than if maybe ya like the Beatles?

@@SimpleManGuitars1973 the Blues Jr., and Pro Jr., both are louder, and side by side, if tweed, it will be likely a Jensen speaker, which will dust the Vox crap reissue Celestion Chinese versions. CCV's I call em'. Look same, but they are in no way same fullness and loudness. Jensen is amazing, by comparison. It has a natural sound in the warmth that isn't in any Celestion speaker. To each their own.

1 watt won’t be any less loud than 5.

Still like it?

@@Twylightt Yes, very much so. Funnily enough I'm playing through it right now.

@@mark240862saturday i will play in a store a vibro champ, Princeton and a Laney Cube Super 12. Lets see what like more to buy! The champ play well with big muff or some thing like that? Now im in pink floyd style!

Those ARE nice! I picked up a first run of the bugerra v22, put slov tubes in it and I’ve gigged the hell out of it!

Does it have an effects loop? Put a JHS little black amp box in the effects loop and you can push the pre-amp at lower volumes

I have always used small tube amps. Better tone, easier to haul, less space, lower stage volume etc….and when I played bigger places, I always had a 609 to hang in front of it.

He's just a different style from me, so I don't compare myself. But... Would be nice to be able to play that fast, I can't play fast.

Nah, I started with blackstar ht5 but after I switched to afender blues jr, I hardly use the black star. Ever since then I've been obsessed with trying fenders high range stuff. I'm thinking either this or the champ, also tone king gremlin looks sick

Did you pay full price?

@@dustinarnold79 i got a discounted floor model and the list price was still $750 back then, looks like they’re $800 now

What kind f attenuator are ya using ?

I was using a weber mass 100 at the time with a adjustable ohms from 2 to 16. Now I use a Two Notes Captor X 8 ohm.@@benallmark9671

What’s wrong with Russian made tubes?

"Loud is over" but, for those of us who grew up in the 60s and 70s so is our hearing! So don't get too "rose-tinted-spectacles" over the crazy volumes of yesteryear!

Loud will never die, things sound better louder and music is better with dynamics. Sadly the world is being developed into multi family units so almost nobody can actually play music the way it’s meant to be heard.

@@jessedaly7847 I hear you loud and clear. Think about this: How many people do you know who still own a good stereo system? How many people can even walk across the floor or open a drawer or window without their neighbors beating on the wall or making anonymous complaints against them? We've all gotten so used to being controlled and micro managed that rock and roll actually frightens a lot of people. It's almost become irrelevant and even obsolete. It's all about being squeezed down into a tiny little ear bud micro noise with no dynamics, same tempo, same level, maybe 3 notes in the melody, and 5 or 6 words in the lyrics. No intro, no verses no chorus, no solos, just a computer generated tick tock for a minute and a half, and lots of auto tune. Then the next "song" comes on, and it sounds just like the last one. In the future, speakers and amplifiers will probably be as illegal as machine guns and explosives. Volume levels will have a 25 db limit, and anything above that will be punished by fine or imprisonment. (ummm, sir, I need you to calm down, mmmkay)? When you go to a concert, you'll be given an app with a PIN number, and you'll sit in your seat with your phone and your earbuds, and that's how you'll listen to the music. There will be no amps or PA onstage, and if there are any drums at all, they'll be electronic pads. (The roadies will all be out of work and living under bridges) Oh, yeah, kids let's rock and roll, WHOO HOO! we're partying now!! Oh, one more thing. If you take your earbuds out without muting your phone, that'll be a noise ordinance violation, and one of the many enforcement officers present at the venue will issue you a citation. It'll be kind of like masks for your ears....and soul. Stay in your cubicle and do not look up from your screen. Rock and roll.

@@jpalberthoward9 I mean I can sing at 105db no problem…

@@dcaudwell There's a difference between putting a tube amp at the level where the harmonic complexity and touch sensitivity begin to emerge, and "threshold of pain" levels where actual physical damage to the human ear drums can occur. Many moons ago, when my own IQ was roughly equal to my shoe size, Deep Purple got into the Guinness book of world records as THE loudest band on planet Earth.. They came to Atlanta, and guess who finagled his way down to the front row? At the time, Blackmore was playing through not one, but two Marshall Major heads. That's 200 watts each, plus the PA, maybe about 20 feet from my eardrums. Probably the equivalent of an Army artillery exercise. I loved it, it sounded good, and it rocked, but I was nearly deaf for a week. My experience has taught me that the trick with tube amps is to pick the right size for the venue. A refrigerator size honker made for Madison Square Garden or Wembly Stadium looks badass and macho and cool, but it's the wrong tool for the job if your gig is the corner beer joint. Besides, when they tell you to turn it down, (and they will) it's gonna sound plinky dinky like a big overgrown turd and make you look like an idiot who doesn't understand amps.That goes without saying. These days, I think the hot ticket is Champs or Princetons. The sweet spot is accessible at levels that aren't going to make anybody's ears bleed, and the basic tone is great. And of course there's always lotsa pedals if you need 'em. Maybe the girls are right. Maybe size does matter.

Hi there! Which of the two breaks up earlier? Whose distortion is better? Thanx in advance! :)